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[@fiboot-oaken]

GIANT DAD Elden ring build confirmd

[@ellowell8160]

dear god. HE'S BACK

[@OnzagaoftheEast]

Fire Giant Dad>

[@kanaria-cu3uv]

@@fiboot-oaken chaos zweihander what rings u got bithc?

[@umbridly_doodly_oodly4]

The legend never dies

[@fenrin49]

YES i hope they never fix it

[@NvwaAqoKy2kg]

Chaos Zwei all over again

[@Nobody32990]

What talismans you got? Erdtree Favour (and Protection).

[@FBI-wn2qo]

THE LEGEND NEVER DIES

[@SoulAir]

ITS EVERYTHING YOU NEED

[@Smuggers.]

Oh god, it actually is

[@kanaria-cu3uv]

it's harder to find a DLC weapon that isn't broken at this point.

[@Nobody32990]

Mertial arts? Or am I not aware of something?

[@OfLanceTheLonginus]

Rain of Fire is the worst incantation in the game Curseblade Cirque also very mid

[@DreyfusLagoon]

Just wait until people start covering the claws of night. I’m absolutely hornswoggling people with them as well as the ansbach bow

[@Rumo_Notna]

From soft were always pay to win

[@AndrewTheUltraBoss99]

@@Nobody32990 with that hyperarmor on the art?

[@hedgeyes6411]

I'd like to point out this fiery zweihander is released in a DLC that also includes a silly-looking golden mask, the Divine Bird Helm, that is STATISTICALLY INCREDIBLE. You can then pair this with the Tree Sentinel armour, a golden set associated with the divine capital with incredible defensive stats. He's back.

[@titssnitchtzeentch649]

Divine bird helm ? When you could use the Death Mask Helm ?

[@johnnythekidag]

Please sir.... Have mercy

[@titssnitchtzeentch649]

The Divine Bird helm...while the Death Mask exists ? *please*

[@dogmat8733]

Just need a Black Flame equivalent (I guess Scouring Black Flame) and the Green Turtle Shield and viola. Giant Dad 2.0.

[@Xbotto]

Dlc also literally has a mask of the father

[@Jblank1016]

I find it so funny how theres so much insane broken stuff in the DLC and then Great Katanas are just there like "We got a crouch poke :)" Also fun fact for those who don't know, Rakshasa's armor doesnt actually increase the damage you receive! Despite what the description and the Daedicar's Woe symbol popping up would make you believe, its just got bad damage resistances for how much it weighs lol.

[@DreyfusLagoon]

If FromSoft properly balances everything than the great katanas should rise to the top. The moveset on them is so good but they aren’t cheesy in the slightest. Everything else is just straight cheese

[@grindedfranz]

@@DreyfusLagoon dmg too high for a potent moveset like this. The better the moveset (that includes range, speed and practicality (and probably more stuff) = the lower the dmg

[@chilly456]

Thank you for telling me this. I wanted to use this armor so bad but though "ughhh i dont wanna take a bunch of damage in the dlc."

[@AiresOne]

each peice of the armor increases damage by 2% and damage recieved by 2% full set = 8% damage increase and 8% more damage recieved

[@kylekilgore291]

@@DreyfusLagooneverything is cheese except your weapon? I’m sure your totally not a toxic spammer. 😂 lmfao

[@Keln02]

The video: "AAAAAAH, AAAAAAH AAAAAAH" ... "AAAAH AAAAAAAAAAH"

[@loubloom1941]

Miyazaki...wouldst thou truly PVP sanction a weapon so bereft of balance?

[@StrayKurtis]

Looked into it, and it is in fact bugged, it has the stagger value("dmgLevel" of 3) of the standard UGS attacks opposed to the faster UGS attacks("dmgLevel" of 2) which changes it from what is considered a short stagger into a long stagger.

[@ZreaperOfficial]

35 Vigor > 12711 runes dropped (RL 204) literally fucking how are people still doing this

[@KABLAMMATS]

Maybe hes on a challenge run with the boys?

[@ceci_ferrando]

R1-R1 true combo. Mh. Got a feeling it's gonna get patched soon, enjoy it while you can.

[@Ratkiing]

teres actually a few weapons with true combos, r1 then l1 with dual great katanas also is a true combo

[@hobosorcerer]

Good riddance, I can't wait to be gone from this

[@declicitous1763]

@@Ratkiing but they don’t two shot the majority of players

[@nathanwhiting5475]

God I miss true combos. Was so satisfying. Idk why the couldn't just nerf the damage of subsequent attacks

[@Ratkiing]

@@declicitous1763 yeah it was op as f and didnt belong in a game where nothing else does that

[@obisfish]

STOP CALLING THINGS BROKEN if everyone calls something broken it WILL get noticed and nerfed. Please start calling things good so fromsoft wont nerf them

[@jojohakusho]

He doesn't want it to be strong tho

[@DanielRey_NGR]

The way they die screaming LOL. Never gets old

[@UselessNekoGang]

The return of giant dad

[@MakoTaco]

the legend never dies

[@mfspectacular]

Assuming it's just as bugged in the offhand, try using it w milady & wing stance in the main. It's basically a fume knight loadout, as the sword doesnt get put away during the wing stance attacks (+ it blends almost perfect w the entire moveset). Using an offhand ugs with the backhand blades is goofy but just as effective. I wish fromsoft would just add back ds2's left hand & powerstancing. Alot of paired weapons in elden dont even have dual heavies

[@gabrieljohn7059]

this thing is the new vigor checker

[@grindedfranz]

In the dlc 99% of the players have 60 vigor

[@reeltwig2929]

@@grindedfranz how many in this vid were 1900+ hp??? Maybe 2, plus Oro was at lvl 200. A lot of players are still under 60 vigor

[@shaunkennedy174]

@@grindedfranzyou would be absolutely shocked to see how many noobs are in the DLC that don’t level vigor, especially wizard players. There is a hilarious amount of kiddos running around with 1500 HP. Watch Chasethebro’s vids and you’ll see lol it’s wack

[@Kevvv890k]

@@grindedfranz👀 i have seen players with just 1000 hp getting one shotted on level 250~ while helping

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

​​@@grindedfranz incorrect lol. over half the hosts i invade die in 2 hits.

[@ErickReis762]

Chaos Zweinhander is back ❤❤❤

[@mattishaukas4104]

BECOME UNSTOPPABLE

[@theSceptile01]

Unlike my father who is never going to return, GiantDad is back!

[@dragonslayerornstein387]

BaseCannon's Son. Giant Dad is proud.

[@novv_mh]

He's BACK. Chaos Zwei never left.

[@lionellrichards3456]

Its like if you dont have a one shot build you arent pvp viable.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

The power scaling in Elden Ring just kind of goes that way compared to previous titles where R1 was your bread and butter.

[@lionellrichards3456]

@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 I miss R1 into R1 so bad. When the coolest thing that could happen was getting parried, and it never got old.

[@thegodofsoapkekcario1970]

@@lionellrichards3456”I miss R1 into R1.” Me remembering DS3 gank city where a Havel nerdbob with a Lothric Knight Straightsword that has an invisible jet attached to the end of it would spam R1 into me 3 times and I couldn’t roll nor parry.

[@Owlboi]

"youre using swift slash, youre not allowed to point down" he says, using whatever the fuck this is

[@Navhkrin]

Battle of broken bastards

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Swift Slash infinitely more broken. Always have Swift Slash int he back pocket to counter perfume bottles and other Swift Slash spammers.

[@DyerWaker]

Swift slash copium is rare to see. You’re probably the first I’ve seen defending it 😂⚠️

[@gmlux2682]

Yet, he's not pointing down.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@DyerWaker It's rare to see, but it's not rare. It's rare to see because they're too busy Swift Slashing people and pointing down to defend it on the internet.

[@Renin_Reyulo]

When damage output is excessively high in "Elden Ring" PvP, players have limited opportunities to react and adapt to their opponent's strategies. This diminishes the depth of PvP encounters, as fights can end before players have a chance to employ tactics or adjust their approach. High damage spikes can lead to situations where two interactions are enough to end a fight, leaving no room for skillful maneuvering, counterplay, or strategic adjustments. This lack of counterplay means that even skilled players may lose to less skilled ones simply due to the overwhelming power of certain builds, making the PvP experience feel unbalanced and less rewarding, even when winning.

[@danlorett2184]

Making it more FUN. PVP in fromsoft games has never really been about skill, especially when so often it's 2v1 or 3v1. This is gonna get fixed tho, it definitely has the wrong stagger value.

[@Renin_Reyulo]

@@danlorett2184 It's not FUN for people built for PVP to fold NEW players. I say this as a pvp player who started off only in it for PVE. And new players aren't built for PVP, getting folded by invaders. Many don't even know about purchasing crabs or min maxxing their builds. Then they die in 1-2 hits. And yes. Yes they have made good pvp about skill, not perfect, but more balanced. Dark Souls 3. My pvp wins and invasions are fruitless, so I help players more often in game and handle the invaders. Why do you want lame matches that the buffs last longer than the actual fight itself. Even the loading screen lasts longer than the actual fight. That's not fun at all. The happy chemical I initially felt disappears when I realized, I didn't even work for the win. It was just handed to me from my build and experience, and the host now looks bad at the game.

[@dwelch241]

Nearly DS1 falchion levels here!

[@Ardeus]

Almost there, but not quite there yet.

[@thrace5134]

What's a true combo mean? They can't roll out of it?

[@Shadowbane_]

Correct, the stagger lasts long enough to get 2 hits off

[@ShadowAraun]

basically its a dark souls 3 weapon in elden ring which was ballanced so this isn't normally possible. frame wise, its r1's come out 2 frames faster than the Godslayer Greatsword which is causing the true combo, otherwise its the exact same tier of "slightly faster Ultra Greatsword" so they just gotta tweak it to normal.

[@shaunkennedy174]

Yes exactly. If you hit them with one attack, you are guaranteed to land the second attack because they can’t recover before the second attack hits

[@Naim11443]

REST IN PEACE, THIS WAS THE BEST GREATSWORD EVER, NEW PATCH VICTIM

[@amizan8653]

@@Naim11443 good lol

[@austinwhitney7090]

It's still really good and honestly it was for the best this thing would just delete people with no effort whatsoever.

[@TyeDye622]

That sucks

[@102ndsmirnov7]

@@Naim11443 It's still really good. A great addition to the UGS lineup

[@MouTen-wy1zk]

It got patched but it’s still pretty good, people always expect the second hit now, you can abuse their past fears with something like flame skewer as follow up

[@funnyvalentine9848]

So still deal same dmg but now u dont have 100% garanted second hit right?

[@SunTzuSaidFight]

welcome back Chaos Zweihander

[@uhmuk]

Babe wake up oroboro just uploaded 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@sassythesasquatch8286]

Aaaaaaand it's patched 😂 now the two hit won't stun enough so you can roll out of it I've been testing it out with a friend since patch

[@w8909-j9y]

Is it still worth using for pve?

[@dngthegoddr3132]

Oro! They added invasions into the seamless co-op mod now. Something to perhaps try sometime.

[@jellofan1578]

@@dngthegoddr3132 did they give invaders full heals lol. 2 hosts with 12 flasks seems nuts

[@radagonsoreseal3457]

He plans on it he is working with the creator to iron out some of the bugs it is facing to perfect it a bit better but did say he plans on doing seemless here soon.

[@ModernMan12]

he already has a video engaging with it

[@kewlazzname]

It may be broken in PvP but I love it in PvE so hopefully they can nerf it in a way that doesn't affect that element

[@SyntheticShinobi]

All of the PvP changes are PvP only. BHS for example is the same as it was on launch. If you look at the patch notes it clearly says all changes are for multiplayer only and do not affect single player performance

[@PabIopiro]

same but honestly what makes it really broken is its hitstun anyways which shouldnt affect its performance in PVE? well, im hoping thats the only thing they adjust about this weapon at least lmao

[@vibekiller5039]

The Bass Cannon has returned

[@NaturalGarethFan]

I love this weapon simply because it reminds me of the days of tumblebuffing the Drakeblood Greatsword. Except this time it’s (technically) legal. Four elements lesgo!

[@Gallacant]

WE BRINGING BACK DS2 TRUE COMBOS WITH THIS ONE😤😤😤🔥🔥🔥

[@cherno8336]

This is DS3 combo not ds2

[@Gallacant]

@cherno8336 no, ds2 had it first

[@morbid6944]

Used it for most of my DLC playthrough. It slaps.

[@dogma4593]

I really don't understand how this happens, it's the same moveset as Godslayer greatsword which was completely fine lmao

[@PabIopiro]

@@dogma4593 something to do with the hitstun of the slower colossal swords being longer, i think, and this seems to (unintentionally) be using those values

[@DillonMeyer]

If you *really* want to go ape with this weapon, infuse it with the Sacred Blade ash of war and Lightning element. Together it becomes a weapon with 4 out of the 5 damage types in the game that _also_ has a good moveset. Could also Lightning Slash with Sacred infusion for higher faith scaling.

[@envoyofrot7046]

It is funny with how many stuff is overpowered in the DLC that there are no broken/op spells really because most of the new spells are mid and some even bad

[@Kiyosuki]

"Man this video's shorter than most of Oro's videos I wonder wh- oh I see."

[@youngcracker9517]

Obo please anything but the fire knight greatsword 😢

[@m1nd_fl4y3r_m80]

I'm convinced this entire DLC wasn't playtested. Incantations that have way higher stat requirements than any base game incantation, but they all suck more than any incantation in the game. 😂

[@FelixMBlume]

I just noticed that it has the f*cking go*slayer greatsword R1s and the zwei R2s?! This weapon really has it all huh

[@rebirthofgodrics907]

Ey theres nothing wrong with this perfectly balanced weapon, thats clearly not my favorite weapon.

[@EmilKlingberg]

Fundamentally, nah. It's pretty good, ut compared to all the other suff its pretty average. If im in the arena and i meet a FKGS user im happy, swift slash, blindspot, rolling sparks, golden crux, Carian dueling shield, noe those are some Fundamentally broken things, the discus and the bow is also pretty fucked. Sadly a lot of the dlc weapons are also really bad, like the light Greatswords dont stagger at all, the claws and fists also.

[@tasin2776]

Yeah there's a difference between broken and too strong. Both need nerfs but one breaks the balance of the game while the other just overtuned. Greatshields used to be broken because unless you swapped to something to counter you instantly lost, whereas powerstanced greatspear was just too strong but could be outplayed like any weapon.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@tasin2776 I don't like UGS true combos, but it just doesn't mix well balance wise with the high damage ceiling that Elden Ring allows.

[@tasin2776]

@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 yeah I agree especially r1 r1

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@tasin2776 I meant to say I don't dislike. I miss the old days where it was difficult to instantly melt people with weapon art spam.

[@Garl_Vinland]

If you want to waste a larval tear for one week of fun, be my guest, but this is obviously going to get nerfed

[@nictotine264]

Is there going to be a palm blast video coming? I don't think It's super overpowered, but people don't seem to be used to the hyperarmor and deceptive range of it yet. It might have one-shot potential as well.

[@CylinderHeadE60]

18 Dex, but don’t tell anyone you leveled that you……..

[@GawainW]

I hope they do a balance patch for these weapons soon. I want to start using this awesome looking weapon when it's fixed.

[@Laoruperteen18]

its likely they will also nerf the faith scaling down a stage but increase dex scaling to compensate, this thing shouldnt be doing 2.5k in two hits, let alone in a true combo for its basics. even with a nerf, the moveset and versatility of this weapon is more than enough to justify its use, its excellent, same with Queeligns Sword.

[@StudioMod]

THE LEGEND NEVER DIES

[@Myron90]

Getting one shotted by this in pvp is why i got this immediately

[@miserere_me9168]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand its nerfed.

[@DESTROYER-xm1vt]

Your lightning build got me past radan people who are stuck take note oros the non clickbait version of "one shot radan videos"

[@jbisthedj]

I am terrified of getting invaded by you

[@marinasea17]

This thing really has it all. It looks awesome, it has the best possible colossal sword moveset (godslayer + zweihander), the fire damage buff it gives is insane, and most of all it turns PVP into DS3.

[@thex8625]

They gave us the Chaos Zweilhänder 2.0

[@damienp7640]

WT RINGS U GOT BITHC

[@kuku492]

was wondering when u would make a vid about this monster

[@dividetruth4124]

Is level 200 considered the meta now a days? I’m a returning player. I haven’t played in two years or so. I remember there being at least two camps. One being lvl 125, and the other being 150. I was considering starting the DLC at lvl 100, so that I could use the runes I get from my play through to get to 150. But if 200 is the new general consensus, I’ll start at 150. Edit: Also, me and my son have been loving your videos. Thank you!

[@Nomadestra1776]

It's just like when the game was released. Stupidly fun, but also stupidly broken.

[@shaunkennedy174]

Exactly. Everything being OP makes the game so fun. Games aren’t fun when most weapons suck and you only have a few that are just slightly better. I really hope FromSoft doesn’t make all of these weapons useless with crazy nerfs

[@Miistrra.]

You probably won't see this comment but what is your favorite weapon from the dlc so far.

[@xLordxMarsx]

Honestly fuck the healing talisman. With how hard you're trading just use red feather talisman for gigga gigga dmg lmao. I know you'd never , but you can't lie it's tempting lol.

[@DyerWaker]

Imo all colossals should have a true combo that does up to 7-800 with two r1s. 1000 with this one is pushing it but, all other colossals feel underpowered for how easy they are to dodge/bait

[@swig9931]

If you can't beat'em , join them. Making my copy cat build to ruin pvp for as many as I can! Happy 4th weekend 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@johndoe7270]

I'm trying to figure out if the damage boost based on ash is still bugged. I was getting damage by putting ice on the sword in both base attack power from scaling and in my attacks.

[@bas919]

0:34 But it is a _Colossal (Great)Sword._ Says right there in the item description. Anyway, I hope they don't "nerf" it.

[@regissmith203]

In spite of knowing exactly how most invasions would play out, and even with oro basically being like this is soooo stupid. I still got mad seeing how fast it kills people.

[@Mrjackcool2]

how is almost every weapon broken in this dlc, they've really outshone themselves with shit tier quests & pvp balancing this time

[@rockara]

I think this rivals your og falchion ds1 build in terms of powerlevel.

[@jamespainter4565]

yeah because godslayers greatsword has the same r1s, but the hitstun is different

[@TheNovaWollf]

Bringing back the dark souls to elden ring

[@adawg3032]

It’s the best weapon in the game currently IMO. This thing just slaps in every metric.

[@WokeandProud]

Such a cool looking sword shame it'll have to stay in my inventory until it's patched. 😮‍💨😔

[@Zayd-bg1pt]

FIRE UP THE BASS CANNON

[@lovrokuhar5042]

wow, I was using this sword in pve because I thought it was very pretty, didn't know it was that broken in pvp

[@poly_g6068]

Am I the only who likes there being broken stuff in the game?

[@OtaniNoAsagi]

I love true combos in the sense i can combo moves together. Not because they 100% guarantee a hit, think combo mads. I think the sword looks cool etc but in its current state i dislike it so much, and it is broken.

[@Deathsinger99]

Oro when using new broken stuff :) Oro when random uses broke stuff :(

[@skillywilly187]

I was trying to enjoy the video but all the dearh screaming in the background

[@William_Brando]

CHAOS ZWEIHANDER IS BACK

[@RSandCoDftw]

How come do people at meta level 200 don't even have the HP refleting 60 vigor. What is wrong with people

[@michaelbowman6684]

Not exactly fundamentally broken, it and the Godslayer's Greatsword _should_ have the exact same attack data, but the Fire Knight's Greatsword is doing a Damage Level 3 stun on it's light attacks like a normal Colossal Sword, instead of a Damage Level 2 stun like the Godslayer's Greatsword does, which is why it can combo into it's own standing light attacks, and the Godslayer's can't.

[@MakoTaco]

2-hit true combo? What is this-- dark souls???!

[@youreworthmytime7982]

I’ve temporarily quit pvp altogether because of this kind of stuff

[@LordZeroTheNightmare]

this sword is beautifully insane and i love it

[@PseudoNym13]

Hopefully it takes them forever to nerf it like they took forever to nerf moonveil.

[@Tigerbro6]

its really easy to nerf it though. I dont think the combo is the problem, its just the insane AR that it gets.

[@Praetoreon]

I have to mercy ban myself from this video. I'm actually surprised you did so many invasions using this cheese. It's funny the first couple times but that novelty quickly wore off...

[@deadlift9360]

Eldän Rong creaters every hour: "weapon xyz is broken" You could get the impretion, that everythign is broken ... which might be.

[@bobroberts7463]

Meanwhile, I have to do 46 running R2s with Dryleaf to kill 1 person.

[@FarhanNetizen_62]

ladies and gentlemen this is what you got to level up that high lmao they deserve it

[@dotanuki3371]

I remember when From patched out the BKGS R1->Charged R2 pivot to launch combo that was clunky as fuck to land, only to drop the DLC with the braindead infinite combo halberd.

[@sandorjanospapp3127]

it is already patched out

[@Effect-Without-Cause]

That power creep... is this yugioh?

[@Boamere]

It looks like you're using the oil soaked tear for a lot of this

[@ethanleffler9969]

Perfectly balanced... as all things should be

[@israellopez9766]

It's not bugged if you wanna see a bug the death bug is back

[@shaunkennedy174]

So far we have: Fire Knights Greatsword Lightning Perfume Swift Slash Greatsword of Damnation I feel like I’m missing some more busted stuff

[@rickkcir2151]

@@shaunkennedy174 Blind spot

[@battousai2089]

Bro, everything in the DLC is broken 😂😂😂