Excellent video, went to the remote shed site before Fire Queen moved but could not see much, an incredible survival considering how much heritage was being destroyed around that period
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thanks👍 yes, the loco is an incredible survivor… the sixties was a very bad time for heritage, as you say, so much was lost. Still, we have Fire Queen. Thanks for your comment👍
@asteroidrules6 ай бұрын
An extremely long wheelbase for an 0-4-0, and an interesting story about such an early industrial engine.
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Glad you found the story interesting, she certainly was a long legged beast!👍
@Lampironstudios2155 ай бұрын
yeah given how long the wheelbase is i couldn't tell if the engine was an 0-4-0 or a 2-0-2
@asteroidrules5 ай бұрын
@@Lampironstudios215 The pistons being between the wheels also makes it look like a single, on the overwhelming majority of locomotives with outside cylinders the pistons are at least partially in front of the first driven axle. Having the pistons between the axles oddly resembles a diesel or electric jackshaft locomotive.
@OfficialTrainzGod6 ай бұрын
I'd never heard about fire queen until now Glad to learn the history of this funky locomotive!
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Really pleased that you enjoyed the vid, thanks👍
@keithtanner28062 ай бұрын
Fascinating video and historical account. Thank you. I saw Fire Queen a remarkable survivor, and numerous other locos including theLNWR Coal Tank at Penrhyn Castle.
@iainrobinson65662 ай бұрын
I’m really pleased that you enjoyed the video, it was fascinating (and frustrating 😂) to put together.Fire Queen is really special, I can’t wait to see her in her new home. The coal tank is one of my favourite locos, along with the ex L&Y Barton Wright tank. I never saw it at Penrhyn, sadly. Thanks very much for your comment.
@martinsims1273Ай бұрын
An excellent video, thank you.
@iainrobinson6566Ай бұрын
Very pleased that you enjoyed it👍
@ausfoodgarden6 ай бұрын
Great historical video. Thanks for creating and sharing this.👍
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
I’m very pleased that you enjoyed it, thanks for your comment👍
@freddieellis84496 ай бұрын
Fascinating! Never even heard of this before, so quite the eye opener. Thank you.
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really pleased that you enjoyed this👍
@yvonnemjones89344 ай бұрын
We are taking our mum to re see her engine for her 80th Birthday in February. We haven't visited the Fire Queen for over 50 years.
@iainrobinson65664 ай бұрын
I hope she has a lovely day, it will be an emotional reunion for you all 😍As you can see from my video, Fire Queen is very well cared for!
@mooglesmodelrailways6 ай бұрын
I grew up in Gravesend and used to visit my nan in Northfleet. Fire Queen was familiar to me though I have never seen her other than photos. My dad worked at an engineering firm next to the cement works at the bottom of that lane you show on the map. Horlocks is still present in Northfleet as there is an undertakers of that name on The Hill by St Botolphs church.
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thank you for your fascinating comment👍I wonder about that Horlock connection. It’s pretty cool that his house still stands, there might be some mileage in researching further into the man for another video. Very interesting that you grew up there, too. I wonder if the engineering firm your Dad worked at was near to the Northfleet ironworks? Thanks again for the comment!👍
@Gearz-3656 ай бұрын
I've seen images of Fire Queen online, and she's one unique locomotive. I saw someone on KZbin built a live steam model of her, which was awesome. Her long wheelbase makes her like a steam wagon
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Yes, I’ve seen that video, it’s a superb model. That’s a good point you make about the steam wagon, that wheelbase is … different! Thanks for your comment👍
@thomasmalthus32576 ай бұрын
never knew the Whole story of Fire Queen, thanks for telling it, and please keep up the good work
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thank you, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video👍
@theinspector10236 ай бұрын
Excellent piece. Thank you.
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening👍
@keithshergold92576 ай бұрын
I loved the narration. I have subscribed to this channel.
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thank you for subscribing, and for the kind words👍
@shedhead006 ай бұрын
Great video absolutely fascinating story. Just subscribed to your channel.
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I’m really pleased that you enjoyed the video👍
@dinosauralan.94866 ай бұрын
Fascinating and a view of the Welsh Narrow gauge not seen before. However, I had heard of `Fire Queen` before, that just maybe will prompt me to visit Devils Bridge and thus travel the Vale of Rheidol railway?? Just to visit `Fire Queen`? Thank you, take care.
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’m so glad that you enjoyed the video. Yes, I think Aberystwyth is worth a visit just for the museum alone. Or you can go to the Welsh slate museum in a year or so and she’ll be in her new home there. I’ll make a video about that when it happens.Thanks for your kind comment👍
@ЛЬВИНИ6 ай бұрын
Excellent shot, Like
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thank you👍
@marklewis-hh2bc6 ай бұрын
I been there and see it a few weeks ago and the slate qurry about 2 months ago
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
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@barryphillips70986 ай бұрын
Thankfully it was SAVED!!
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree, that was a bit of a miracle! Thanks for your comment👍
@west_side_96 ай бұрын
I never realized fire queen was a crampton!
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Yes, it was that early…Fire Queen is an astonishing survivor. Thanks for the comment👍
@yvonnemjones89344 ай бұрын
Alfred Horlock was my great great grandfather.
@iainrobinson65664 ай бұрын
It must be amazing to be able to say that… a direct line from one of the original masters of industry. Thanks for your comment👍
@pikablob6 ай бұрын
If Assheton-Smith owned steam yachts, is it not possible that he was previously familiar with Horlock through that? The familiar name idea is more fun though :))
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Yes, I wondered about that… Keith Jaggers had a study of A-S’s associations with Horlock and Crampton, but drew a blank. It was his suggestion about the link through foxhunting, like you, I think it has legs😂👍
@yvonnemjones89344 ай бұрын
In your picture of the Jenny Lidd that's him sitting on the back of the engine
@iainrobinson65664 ай бұрын
I had to go and have a look… that’s amazing! I wish I’d known that👍
@bjarnitreinspotting81286 ай бұрын
Great video! However, she’s not the oldest preserved narrow gauge locomotive: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pays_de_Waes_(locomotive)
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarification- I wish I’d said “probably” now! So Fire Queen is the second oldest narrow gauge loco in Europe… wow! Pays de Waes is fascinating… now I’m going to have to make a film about that. Thank you so much for the information.👍
@DanQuine5 ай бұрын
"Boyd's superb work" immediately followed by "his story doesn't tally up with the facts". Hmmm...
@iainrobinson65665 ай бұрын
Hi, Dan. Boyd was well known for his discrepancies, wasn’t he. It’s still a superb work. Perhaps I could have phrased things a little better though😊
@DanQuine5 ай бұрын
@@iainrobinson6566 I was gently pulling your leg :-) But, the more I read Boyd, the worse his work looks. I wrote a couple of articles about the Penrhyn, and his book on that railway is sadly just awful. Hey ho.
@iainrobinson65665 ай бұрын
@@DanQuine Thanks, Dan😊It’s a shame, all those gorgeous maps and diagrams… all that work. But yes, there’s no place for slipshod research in what is supposed to be a learned tome. Not that I can speak😅 must have been depressing to encounter dissonances with your research on the Penrhyn.
@clangerbasher6 ай бұрын
It surprised me thought hanging the running gear off the boiler was a good idea.
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
Thanks... yes, it works with traction engines, but the stresses on the more powerful rail locomotive where the running gear connects directly to the wheels rather than to a crank and flywheel arrangement does lead to some dissonance and differential expansion... hence the con rods bending. But it did work well enough. It'd be interesting to find out how the Cramptons on the continent fared. Thanks for your comment!
@clangerbasher6 ай бұрын
@@iainrobinson6566 I was thinking of the shock through the slack in couplings etc. Railways are smoother that roads. But higher loadings etc. mean that shocks are transmitted with more impact. I just saw joints and seams being worked excessively.
@wideyxyz22716 ай бұрын
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@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
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@jeffreymonroe47766 ай бұрын
if fire queen and ever other locos around the world were sentients they would be telling us whats its like when they were working
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
What a wonderful thought! I wish, I wish…👍
@jeffreymonroe47766 ай бұрын
@@iainrobinson6566 question what is your favorite north american locos?
@iainrobinson65666 ай бұрын
@@jeffreymonroe4776 Probably a Maine two-footer, one of the Forney types.
@jeffreymonroe47766 ай бұрын
@@iainrobinson6566 my favorite locomotive is California western #46 she's a 2-6-6-2 mallet and my favorite British loco is the lnwr super d