Fire School Part 15 Pump Drill Fire,Learning the process

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David Canterbury

David Canterbury

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@BRRAAIINNSS
@BRRAAIINNSS 10 жыл бұрын
This is quite impressive, I saw Cody Lundin Make one of these but he didn't explain it the way you have, thanks for going into such great detail. This looks like it could be one of the easier primitive fire making sets I've seen, certainly has to be easier than spinning a spindle with your palms...ouch.
@angryfishmonger
@angryfishmonger 10 жыл бұрын
You can't help but like an honest man. I love watching you come to a conclusion, to see your thought processes as you figure out new things and teach us new stuff. Well done.
@bushcraftchip
@bushcraftchip 10 жыл бұрын
Dave thank you for your awesome instruction in all things bushcraft.Hope you and your family have a blessed memorial day.
@brian6174b
@brian6174b 10 жыл бұрын
Mr. Cantebury, thank you for your military service to our great nation on this memorial weekend. Semper fidelis!
@flipstyle1983
@flipstyle1983 10 жыл бұрын
These are the types of videos I miss on this channel. I hope they make a come back
@MikeSr39
@MikeSr39 10 жыл бұрын
can hardly wait each day or so to see what aspect of survival you are going to highlight. keep up the good work.
@DavidJelsmaBanjo
@DavidJelsmaBanjo 10 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, you're a stud Dave Canterbury! I truly enjoyed!
@fire_x_friction8820
@fire_x_friction8820 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty darn good for a first time around. Been studying the construction now for some time. Your video deffinetly pushed me now to schedule this in on my next day of "dirt" time. Thanks Dave Canterbury
@jeffh9518
@jeffh9518 10 жыл бұрын
First pump drill I've actually seen made. Interesting concept.
@SpiritofWildWings
@SpiritofWildWings 10 жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed making these in different manners for years. I loved that you burned your way through the pine counter weight. Great job Dave!
@silverado669
@silverado669 10 жыл бұрын
Great job, Brother, really! That chuck system was genius.
@robertjeffery3237
@robertjeffery3237 10 жыл бұрын
Great video! Now that you have your pump drill with a chuck, put a stone point on it and make a heavier, more centered weight. Your thoughts at the end were spot on!
@draconis4403
@draconis4403 10 жыл бұрын
Dave you the Man. JoeTeti and Bear Grylls cant hold a candle to you!!! Love your videos! I watch you every day!!!
@momkatmax
@momkatmax 10 жыл бұрын
Great video of learning process. Liked the close up of the board with pile of wood dust/embers. We had wondered how to make fire drill!
@zacsnabes4422
@zacsnabes4422 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave….Jeez, I never really could figure out why we needed the fly wheel. Awesome explanation.
@mikemagnum7987
@mikemagnum7987 10 жыл бұрын
Dave, that was awesome! I am looking forward to attempting that here in the NW. Thanks Brother!
@pnwadventuresandgearreview8749
@pnwadventuresandgearreview8749 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave never seen one of those made before!
@dazinthesticks
@dazinthesticks 10 жыл бұрын
Interesting technique Dave , nice to see your skills in making the pump drill. Thanks.
@mmrtactical7764
@mmrtactical7764 10 жыл бұрын
Great work Dave, first time I've seen that done.
@tanaoi
@tanaoi 10 жыл бұрын
Great vid Dave, looking forward to your oil watchcoat shelter !!!
@czechmate9591
@czechmate9591 10 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you using the Jeff White Bush knife. great vid Dave
@briargoatkilla
@briargoatkilla 10 жыл бұрын
Nice! Don't' forget the bowdrill for making holes...good oak spindle with some sand in the hole will drill a hole through soft wood quick like! So awesome that you can just take a concept and make it work like that. Good stuff.
@chrisdorris6207
@chrisdorris6207 10 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say that is the first time I have ever seen that system built and used. I read about it in a book a long time ago that had a few interesting pictures and diagrams, but it is much more impresive to see it in motion. I do remember something about it possibly useing a stone or molded clay counterweight, I am going to have to research that. Thanks
@dougallen7890
@dougallen7890 10 жыл бұрын
GREAT. Now a set of drill bits from bone or stone for drilling holes.
@roadrunner4404
@roadrunner4404 10 жыл бұрын
My same idea, but I could forge a metal bit very easily to actually drill holes with. Love the chuck idea.
@alphaxrime777
@alphaxrime777 10 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos. It was fun to watch.
@preparedsurvivalist2245
@preparedsurvivalist2245 10 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard when Dave said to burn the ends of the bankline with a lighter. He's making a primitive fire drill! You obviously wouldn't have a lighter if you had to make this drill to get fire!
@vanpat52
@vanpat52 10 жыл бұрын
hi ! have made one recently and tried a couple of times with no success. Your video shows some improvements i can make. Thanks Dave
@anthonychihanik7169
@anthonychihanik7169 10 жыл бұрын
Wow .. Awesome Dave !! Keep the videos coming brother ..
@gun1911
@gun1911 10 жыл бұрын
Great video Dave! Thank you for going through all the steps to show us. Definitely not a quick made fire set up. Just burning a hole through that fly wheel takes a lot of time.
@jcounts69
@jcounts69 10 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual Dave. Thanks
@millster101
@millster101 10 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of putting a chuck system in a bow drill system.
@fishhooks100
@fishhooks100 10 жыл бұрын
That was cool! Thanks Dave.
@gtrevino50
@gtrevino50 10 жыл бұрын
Sounded like you also invented a predator call there for a few moments. Nice video. Thanks.
10 жыл бұрын
Very impressive. First time I've seen this and liked a lot. Thank for that Marcio
@ThinTheHerd78
@ThinTheHerd78 10 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you using the PLSK1.
@dahartman88
@dahartman88 10 жыл бұрын
Hahaha awesome Dave, I imagine hafting some elongated oval flint heads would turn this into a simple machine drill?
@draconis4403
@draconis4403 10 жыл бұрын
keep up the good work Dave
@mikeinajeep
@mikeinajeep 10 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this. Now I never have to. Thanks.
@mtslyh
@mtslyh 10 жыл бұрын
Very cool device. Thanks for sharing this. If nothing else, this would make for a good tool for drilling consistent holes in wood. That "bit" goes right through that soft wood. I wouldn't want to have to drill 100 holes with it. But if I was out in the wilderness and needed a couple of quick holes drilled, this tool would do it relatively easily.
@thistledomeoutdoors3372
@thistledomeoutdoors3372 10 жыл бұрын
Good Job Dave, very kewl, now ill have to go try one myself
@SpiritofWildWings
@SpiritofWildWings 10 жыл бұрын
For the chuck, make an "L" shaped shelf that you can match with the poplar bit, then wrap it to hold it in place.
@Timber-Wolf
@Timber-Wolf 10 жыл бұрын
A new project to try. I learned something today. Thank you :)
@MrStickyIggy
@MrStickyIggy 10 жыл бұрын
the drill stalls when you lift the handle upwards; if you just let inertia wind the string when the handle is going up you wont have that problem. it seems like you noticed though near the end. the counter weight might actually act as a fly wheel too, maybe mess around with a larger diameter one?
@AmazingMazen
@AmazingMazen 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Dave. aside from making fire, I think the value of learning how to make such a tool is that it could be used as an actual drill to make holes for different building purposes in a primitive situation. I'm sure if it is refined some more it would be quite efficient for such a task. Just my two cents. :)
@dgr8zod
@dgr8zod 10 жыл бұрын
Flywheel on a bowdrill.. I like the concept.
@davidharvey5672
@davidharvey5672 10 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching, great series for sure. I was wondering if the weight could be used to jam the chuck shut and so hold the wieght tight and close the chuck at the same time. Saving the cordage.
@celt7012
@celt7012 10 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. Can't wait to see more
@DeanO
@DeanO 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration and information
@rdmanone
@rdmanone 10 жыл бұрын
Really cool Dave.
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great instructional video.
@Nekyinboots
@Nekyinboots 10 жыл бұрын
I like your channel always usable information and you don't whine about things, like the racoons got into the chickens or just the doldrums about a hike or such... keep up the good work... and thank you...
@bowins7895
@bowins7895 10 жыл бұрын
not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but physics wise, the larger diameter the weight the more efficient the rig will be. longer spindle is great but then you need a longer press board as well. you would be well served to have a 12 inch log that's roughly 3 inches in thickness.
@steelers90802
@steelers90802 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome demo, very cool!
@edh7658
@edh7658 10 жыл бұрын
Looks to me like you could use that setup for a lot of things beside fire. Could be very useful to someone as a tool. Thanks
@grierwolfe
@grierwolfe 10 жыл бұрын
I'm glad your doing this one because this is something I've never tried. Seems like more work then it's worth. What are your personal thoughts now that you've done it?
@uberitup84
@uberitup84 10 жыл бұрын
very cool, the ability to have a "chuck" is ideal. Would you say that this a more for a "base camp" no so much something that you carry around with you?
@bigfootbushcraft7063
@bigfootbushcraft7063 10 жыл бұрын
Sweet brother. Nice set!
@muddytigeroutdoors4790
@muddytigeroutdoors4790 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video sir. What would be the advantage, if any, of this pump drill vs a bow drill? -Jacko
@joshuakelekovich8091
@joshuakelekovich8091 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, thanks for the great videos. Could you tell me about how long it took to burn through that counterbalance weight?
@kwstikas82
@kwstikas82 10 жыл бұрын
this must be the most complicated method for a primitive fire i have ever seen in my life
@tylangford6572
@tylangford6572 7 жыл бұрын
get it Dave good work my man
@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE
@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE 10 жыл бұрын
That's really complicated but that's really cool...
@prestonirvin1209
@prestonirvin1209 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, but if you have fire to bore through the counter weight.... do you really need the pump?? Lol good video!
@JaySdt
@JaySdt 10 жыл бұрын
If the crossbar was longer, I think it would make it more stable and give more speed to the bit because of the added amount of string and the tighter the wind will be on the spindle.
@Lostamundo
@Lostamundo 10 жыл бұрын
Nice video I'll have to give it a try sometime.
@claytonleach8848
@claytonleach8848 10 жыл бұрын
Well like you said the eastern woodlands is a little humid maybe for the rubbing sticks technique, the chuck is a great idea. I'm going to make an attempt at making one. I live in ohio too so I don't guarantee success creating flame either. If the environmental conditions were right that would definitely work. No argument there.
@dalemyers9265
@dalemyers9265 10 жыл бұрын
i feel it you kept a piece of plate steel in your pack it would aid in the flywheel effect on the pump drill. a piece of plate 1/4 inch thick x 6 inch round with a hole in the middle of it. or a weight lifting plate. it could be a concrete poured plastic covered type too. if the pump handle isn't quite wide enough for the spindle of the drill to go through it. to the point the handle may break in the process of making fire. you can whittle down the spindle a little more. or find a bigger limb to make a new handle.
@ajonathanbilbrey2499
@ajonathanbilbrey2499 10 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the grinding wheel will throw sparks from grinding mildsteel or other rockswhile it is turning thanks Dave
@ajonathanbilbrey2499
@ajonathanbilbrey2499 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks dave endeaver to persevere
@BorealWoodsrunner
@BorealWoodsrunner 10 жыл бұрын
as cool as a burtonsville rig :)...as always a good watch ATB
@alejandroa5453
@alejandroa5453 10 жыл бұрын
Dave, are you attending Blade Atlanta during the weekend?
@outdoorclown
@outdoorclown 10 жыл бұрын
Nice. i need to try this. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
@SICKYPOPP
@SICKYPOPP 10 жыл бұрын
sry dave but i laugh so hard on the #1 thing: stop hittin my face twice...but anyway....this is great
@johnlord8337
@johnlord8337 10 жыл бұрын
If you put the pump drill under a brace board and put your chest on it (about heart high location), that is your downward pressure. Use your arms below you for your aerobic exercise of (French press) downward push and(biceps) upwards pull. This keeps the string intact and doesn't make you make more heat (caloric burn) than the fire pump!
@thomaspoor8849
@thomaspoor8849 8 жыл бұрын
Instead of making a longer spindle you might also use a shorter Handel/ pump bar to get more cord on the spindle to make more RPM's
@TheOtterOutdoorsman
@TheOtterOutdoorsman 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just wondering if there is a way to make the counter weight without fire. Would be interesting to see.
@DerekDevastation
@DerekDevastation 10 жыл бұрын
You could probably use a primitive awl but it would be time and labor intensive and it would burn a lot of calories
@decheng6412
@decheng6412 10 жыл бұрын
2 half moon cuts in a log split in half laying lengthwise and some cordage should work as good as the one he demonstrates
@TheOtterOutdoorsman
@TheOtterOutdoorsman 10 жыл бұрын
That was my thought.
@00Klingon
@00Klingon 10 жыл бұрын
Professor Apoc My guess is that this is not something you'd build for your first fire, but rather something you build once you're smoothing it to prepare for future fires. Another benefit is if you had a drill bit or even a sharp piece of metal, you could also use this as a regular drill to make precise holes changing out the bits with the chuck as needed, not just for making fire.
@bushcraftchip
@bushcraftchip 10 жыл бұрын
I have seen it where you have rocks and lash them between two pieces of wood like a sandwhich instead of log round.
@jolllyroger1
@jolllyroger1 10 жыл бұрын
Counter weight does not have to be round the piece you made for the pump handle could be shorter to be more effective and if you had cut it in half you could make pump handle and counter weight out of same piece bore hope through both Also in the interest of making pump drill faster the pumpm handle does not have to have a hole in it .... it can ride on the side of spindle..... A shorter pump handle gives more down force also if you put hole through spindle for cordage and have shortpiece above that you can use a socket to increase down force My fav method of making counterweight is make it thin and larger diameter..... larger diameter needs less weight to store energy 2 fav tools in the woods are a spoke shave because it can be used as a froe...... And a combo bow saw hand drill I make ...... With one adjustable wood bit from 1/2 inch to 3/4 fits most needs for building camp stools and chairs and is so versatile I would rather have it than any other tool including Any fire starting tools
@drumgodtim
@drumgodtim 10 жыл бұрын
Another strong vid! How long did it take you to make your set start to finish?
@snowman1278mw
@snowman1278mw 10 жыл бұрын
And sounds like a good project for turkey season
@MacFyben
@MacFyben 10 жыл бұрын
if you went a little shorter with the handle i think it would be a bit better too. great vid dave
@AerodynamicBrick
@AerodynamicBrick 10 жыл бұрын
I was told a 1/4 inch drill bit and pliers are a good thing to have in a camp set is it and would it made this process easier?
@BornRandy62
@BornRandy62 10 жыл бұрын
casual observation: If you were to make a bit that had a sharp rock stuck in it you could use that rig to drill holes in wood bone or other stuff even rock if you used a hard stone to drill a soft stone.
@mikebrank6174
@mikebrank6174 10 жыл бұрын
Ive not dealt with the pump drill ever before would you say its easier or harder to use over a bow drill from a calorie stand point? It seems like it would take longer to build but not as much physical effort start to finish as a bow drill if you can get the motion and timing down.
@CLOWNUK
@CLOWNUK 10 жыл бұрын
interesting vid , would it be quicker to tie a couple of rocks for your fly wheel bit. one advantage with this machine is the strings last longer than on a bow drill.
@carolinares-q4205
@carolinares-q4205 10 жыл бұрын
Luv the pump drill.
@SKKB28
@SKKB28 10 жыл бұрын
Dave how long did this whole process take you?
@Dragonstalon1001
@Dragonstalon1001 10 жыл бұрын
It seems like it takes more time to use this set-up than a Bow Drill set.
@decheng6412
@decheng6412 10 жыл бұрын
What was the knife used in this video? Please and thank you?
@ryansmits4867
@ryansmits4867 10 жыл бұрын
Dave what knife is that
@monty5583
@monty5583 10 жыл бұрын
I think that your cordage was too long for that spindle by about 2 inches. Just like an engine shorter stroke equals hifher rpm. Also the winding and unwinding will stretch the cord so you need to account for that. Just my 2 cents. But good job. The chuck looked great
@1crimm
@1crimm 10 жыл бұрын
U the man Dave... Dual Survival is going down the toilet since U left. Its Obvious. JW
@rolandsilva9743
@rolandsilva9743 10 жыл бұрын
Great job
@ramsessilent
@ramsessilent 10 жыл бұрын
Primitive fire , its my fav way. I have made them big , I have made the small. It looked like you bar could me shortened to give you 5 to 6 twists on your spindle . Looked like you where only geting about 3.
@MidasMind
@MidasMind 10 жыл бұрын
Why not try the bit system in a regular bow drill?
@ronaldlarimer
@ronaldlarimer 10 жыл бұрын
rather than or maybe in addition to a longer spindle you might want it a little thinner which would also give you more revelutions.
@snowman1278mw
@snowman1278mw 10 жыл бұрын
Which knife is that look super thick
@besimtitiz
@besimtitiz 10 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@jaylane82
@jaylane82 10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Seems to work pretty well. :-)
@zacharyhawkins1234
@zacharyhawkins1234 10 жыл бұрын
Cool vid and all, but I had to laugh when you used fire to create something that can potentially make a fire when someone is in a situation where they don't have any other fire making resources! I mean that to be friendly. Love this channel. Take care.
@duxdawg
@duxdawg 10 жыл бұрын
Ever hear of the "Next Fire" concept?
@AmazingMazen
@AmazingMazen 10 жыл бұрын
Agree with duxdawg. I think the this type of drills was meant to be used a permanent outfit for making fire in ancient times.
@zacharyhawkins1234
@zacharyhawkins1234 10 жыл бұрын
Of course, guys. As I said, it's a friendly comment. I agree with him though, too much sugar for a dime here. Nice concept to know, but there are other, easier ways to get the next fire.
@alaskankare
@alaskankare 10 жыл бұрын
Cool pump drill, bit using fire to make something that makes fire is backwards. Why bother making it? You already have fire. I would suggest using a bag with rocks or splitting a chunk of wood then tying that.
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