How Hollywood Shot Actors with Arrows before CGI

[@TylerBellMakes]

I've got some wild ideas for movie effects I want to build, so if you want to help me get there, Patreon is a great way to help! Patreon.com/tylerbellmakes

[@rasmis]

12:50 “Hello, I am here to deliver .. uhm.. no, rain hellfire down upon you. Please sign on the dotted line, and initialize on page 2 and 3.”

[@ericwilliams1659]

White pvc, I think, is schedule 40, you need the more expensive Grey pvc which is schedule 80. The schedule 80 (grey) is made to withstand more pressure. But the thicker walls will reduce air flow some. And use of schedule 80 connection and primer/glue. (Schedule 40 pipes typically have a wall thickness of around 0.109 inches, while Schedule 80 pipes have a wall thickness of about 0.154 inches)

[@HaraldHofer]

Great video! Just one remark on your archery: "I don't need a full draw for this" is a big misconception. In order to shoot reliable every time you have to be as consistent in what you do as possible. And one point to achieve this is a consistent draw.

[@hacksmith]

This is awesome!!! You gotta come to HERC to play with some of our toys and equipment!

[@kirill2525]

I'm gonna go stand under a bunch of falling arrows so I get an invite as well :P

[@dandersonja]

@@kirill2525 I wonder if that's a question under their hiring practices. "Have you ever been caught in a volley of arrows?"

[@TheTechAdmin]

If he doesn't reply to you, it's officially hopeless to get a reply out of him, lol. Tyler's been grinding away this and *_really_* deserves his big break. You could really help mentor him! Love your work too! I know the power lifter is one project you wish you never took due to its money/view ration. Keep up the great work, both of you!

[@thethoughtemporium]

The arrow cannons at the end looked so good. Extremely satisfying to see that wave of arrows rain down. And the spring is so simple and convincing. Same with the "let's just actually shoot them" method, which I wasn't expecting but makes perfect sense and is so nice and simple.

[@mmcnama4]

Counterintuitively, this video is arguably more interesting than some of the crazier ones you've done. It's so simple but surprisingly convincing!

[@nikkothegoblin]

Ever since watch Indy Mogul back in the day of early youtube, I've missed seeing people tackle special effects engineering with such whimsy. Great video, build, and infectious energy!

[@Scanlaid]

Dude! What a throwback, I forgot all about that channel. That might have been the first one I actively followed on youtube. Time for nostalgias 😁

[@methamphetamememcmeth3422]

Don't come at me for this but I think it is better to use contagious instead of infectious when using the connotation positively.

[@armadillerff]

To quote a Jedi more famous than I once said “no that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time…”

[@bytesizedengineering]

Why is it that I cannot stop smiling every time I watch one of your videos? You look like you're having so much fun! I enjoy following along and watching all the cool stuff you build

[@Nighthawkinlight]

That spring flipper is the coolest thing! So convincing if you're not looking for it

[@Lalalielah]

4:35 as someone who does archery, a low poundage might make the actors look more skilled, but it's very noticable that they can draw it back with no effort and the arrow leaves the bow withno force and begins to drop immediately. The whole thing has the effect of making it look like they're playing with toys. Cool video though, especially the effect of the compressed air powered thingy.

[@KaufDirGeld]

as someone who does not, i cant tell if i dont look for it

[@scottg3192]

"Look convincing to the unkeen eye" 4:20 The majority of people can't tell and no one is making actors draw stronger bows for the few dozen who notice

[@Soulessdeeds]

I was a Bradley mechanic in the Army for 15 yrs. There's TONS of things I always notice in war movies when you see tanks moving and doing things. Fury is honestly one of the better movies that portrays tanks and their movements. Allot of the armor we still had back in the 90s sounded ALLOT like stuff from WW2. The Australian Arms an Armor museum YT channel does a ton of WW2 tanks and vehicle rebuilds. The engines and sounds were extremely close to the old M60's. But most movies completely get the sound of the tracks and engines wrong. Or the vibration of tanks from a distance like in Saving Private Ryan. The M1 Abrams never sounds the way it should in movies. Because Hollywood always uses mockups and diesel engines. So all you hear is a diesel engine and not the actual turbine sound the Abrams makes. Or that the exhaust of an Abrams can melt glass and scorch paint of a vehicle it's towing. Seen it happen lol because the crew didn't install the exhaust deflector before towing a vehicle. But the average movie goer has zero clue about anything I just said. Or are even clued in to know to look for such things.

[@danielf3623]

@@Soulessdeeds Yeah, was going to say, an expert is always going to pick up on the corners cut in movies for safety, cost, or cool factor. Kinda glad though, it's nice not to get PTSD from my entertainment. Every once in a while you'll get a director who commits to getting things right and I have to walk out.

[@THX1138-ss6nv]

I agree, If it were realistic you most likely would never see the arrow as it passed through the target and stuck in the ground behind it.

[@five-toedslothbear4051]

4:56 multiple layers of safety probably make the insurance company happy…

[@Deja117]

Not me going "please don't split, please don't split", then also screaming at the screen when he didn't use a more skin safe approach and instead made a bunch of tiny wooden spears. 😬

[@pnwscitech1589]

12:10 A "well acktually" moment :) thats a wad. A sabot would be a device to adapt a single smaller projectile to fire from a larger more powerful bore. So if you were to use the foam as a spacer to launch one arrow from the air cannon, that would be a sabot. All in all, I LOVE your content, your enthusiasm with special effects builds. I feel like I'm watching Myth Busters all over again. Thank you!

[@meareAaron]

practical effects will always be timeless its so cool to see traditional special effects in action

[@dommoo2]

Missed opportunity to do knee armor so you can tell people about how you used to be an adventurer

[@Eyes0penNoFear]

This!

[@dfgaJK]

9:27 that shot was sick!

[@ultrahevybeat]

Came down here to say that

[@joelsaunders588]

The quality of the content on this channel just goes up and up ❤

[@dfgaJK]

I can't wait until you're channel huge and you get one of those "no budget" sponsors that help you make the truck flip a reality!

[@FlerfHerder]

This is too cool. Love the way you shot this video and combined a how to do it yourself instruction manual with film industry history and trade secrets then even used it all to make your own movie scene. This is the kind of passion that inspires people to do fun new things and break into an industry themselves. Love it.

[@RubSomefastOnIt]

the pronged arrow into wood like that looks 100x more convincing in close up shots then anything else. the way you can use smaller pieces of wood to shake with the body to match the shot is perfect.

[@peoplecallmepeechez]

Its wild how convincing those pop up arrows look from the right angle. SFX is so cool when its revealed to be so simple

[@sage5296]

This is incredible. The effectiveness of the FX was fantastic considering the simplicity and budget of it!

[@wesplybon9510]

That last sequence where you put everything together was actually really cool!

[@mohirender]

Practical effects are legit so cool and creative

[@Deja117]

If you change it from fishing line to a coloured string that stands out from everything else, you could chroma key it out and use generative fill, or take 2 shots with the camera following a precise path (with the help of a rail or something), and then overlay the shots to completely remove the strings. Honestly I still think this method is far superior for a more realistic look, but there are ways we can adapt it in post these days to make it look even better. ;)

[@WhitedevilEE]

Yes... yes... I see how this all SHOULD work, I see HOW you did it and STILL it looks so real! That's just crazy! The Montage at the end is just spectacular and shows just how much more real it is if you combine the right angle and the right footage!

[@EnderoftheGame]

I absolutely love this! Seeing the engineering, learning about the effects, and then seeing you actually do the movie shots. This is fantastic!

[@angst_]

Apparently, in the 1938 film "The Adventures of Robin Hood" they just hired a professional archer to shoot the actors. XD

[@Tinius]

That would be Howard Hill. Same guy they stopped inviting to the competitions and just named them after him. His archery feats are still without peer.

[@spencerpalmer2918]

Thanks for posting about TAoRH! If I remember correctly, according to film historian Rudy Behlmer in the bonus features, the actors had layers of wood and cork under their clothing to stop the arrows. The actors who got shot got paid extra.

[@dominic6634]

Interesting fact that guy use to be a machinist. That career gives you crazy abilities with judging distance by eye. Had a boss that could do it within .002 of an inch

[@jtilton5]

Same for the final scene of Throne of Blood (a Japanese retelling of Macbeth by Akira Kurosawa) Kurosawa was planning to just have the extras shoot at Toshiro Mifune as he was wearing body armor, but Mifune insisted they hire trained archers. If you see the film you will know Mifune was right to get professionals to do the stunt.

[@AlecSteele]

So freaking cool!!

[@MollyTheLag]

I've always wanted to see someone make these outside of a film set

[@arthurschwieger82]

That was great. The effect of getting hit all the different way, when in context, really sold the illusion that you were being shot by arrows. Granted, I have never see a person get shot with an arrow other than in the movies so I don't know if that is what it really looks like or not? Maybe a few shots on a ballistic dummy with real arrows for comparison might be in order. There were a couple shots of the rain of arrows that looked fantastic! She shield shot really sold the effect too. As did the shin, shoulder, and butt shots.

[@cadmiral3d146]

Great job! I love practical effects. If you can find it, there used to be a show called movie magic that explains tons of these things.

[@kaselier1116]

These all look so amazing, PLEASE do more! This has got to be so fun to accomplish in real life.

[@Stigstigster]

I love the reference to loose and fire when it comes to archery. Nicely done.

[@spencertrimble9466]

One of the more underrated creators on here.

[@xjade11.11]

Being an Archer, thank you! This is so much fun!!

[@Kapelannew]

Pop up arrow works surprisingly well!

[@riuphane]

This is such a great video. So simple, yet fun and elegant!

[@chkn_boy]

I love how you made little clips for each concept XD really having fun with it

[@wildsage]

Dude, your enthusiasm for what you’re doing is rad. It’s super cool to see your professional expertise with engineering mate so perfectly with something you’re also enthusiastic about, film. I bet you’d do well with like Hollywood stunt coordination and practical special effects. There would be a future for you there if you ever wanted it.

[@Labergemusic]

Really fun thing to learn about. Old school special effects are so interesting.

[@AdamSpFX]

Not all of these techniques have been lost to CGI yet, just last year we were building pop up arrow rigs for Gladiator 2! Ours were also 3D printed, but they used a RC servo to trip the sear. I enjoyed the video, keep up the good work!

[@TheTechAdmin]

I hope one day you get your "big break". You've been grinding away and really deserve it Tyler. Best of luck 🤞 Keep up the *_great_* work!

[@karl1ok]

Absolute banger of a video, Tyler!

[@ryanedison5709]

Genuine Enjoyment... I thoroughly and entirely enjoyed watching this video!

[@mattiasandersson2315]

Howard hill in the Robin Hood movie with errol flynn

[@GooseDeGrey]

This is your best video yet - so well made!

[@dfgaJK]

14:57 If this video has taught me anything it is that that shot may well have been achieved by dropping an arrow down a thin filament line attached to the ground and to a crane or a drone?

[@kristofers6559]

Very cool! Looks truly impressive!

[@punishedprops]

Fun video Tyler!

[@ZCJKF13GDG4]

Watch the end of Throne of Blood for some real crazy old movie arrow stuff

[@jtilton5]

Yes! I was going to mention that as well. Also in RAN they used arrows and blocks of wood for sceenes

[@youravantgarde]

It looks so good

[@DuesenbergJ]

This is awesome! Amazing work.

[@dwwoodbuilds]

Really enjoyed this video! Great explanation and demonstrations! You're doing an awesome job! 👍

[@NomadMP5]

Great video! A rare win for the KZbin algorithm. I would personally love to see you have a go at forced perspective. Not just miniatures or models but partial sets combined with camera tricks, too. I think one of the best examples is the Lord of the Rings trilogy's methods for showing Hobbits alongside men & elves. So many other great examples, though. There are even other cool techniques like set extensions with matte paintings or mirror cutouts seen in classic films from the 20s and 30s. Some of the shots they were able to compose with these techniques pre-cgi are mind-boggling.

[@senfdame528]

"I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow in the plywood..."

[@TomOConnor-BlobOpera]

Came here for that exact comment. Was not disappointed!

[@shawnrinkel8377]

I feel like you missed the mark by calling the shin armor and not calling it sharmor. But I love the vid.

[@JokerInk-CustomBuilds]

I have an old one of those I got from a danish stuntman called Lasse Spang Olesen when I was a kid! :D

[@Dangineering]

Your videos and skills continue to get better with every video. Always a please Tyler, thank you for sharing

[@Gunbudder]

we need Gui DaSilva to collab on this! that guy knows a ton of stunt history

[@tracybowling1156]

Your videos are always so much fun!

[@postRMO]

eyelet on the egde is a beautiful brother wisdom moment

[@maxximumb]

Another freaking awesome video

[@mrharvest]

This is an excellent video and great sleuthing Tyler!

[@morkovija]

if anyone wondering: music at 11:29 is Ryan Taubert - Marvel

[@judahtesterman287]

Good for you man! This is really really cool!

[@dash8brj]

No chihuaha's were turned into shishkebabs during the making of this video. That air cannon setup was teriffic, and the outro very funny :)

[@KevikkGamess]

Great Video, very cool shots

[@bena461]

I love your videos and your attitude and energy so much dude. keep up the awesome videos!! God Bless you!

[@dwang085]

You’re awesome. This was awesome. I love your videos!

[@twistedsphere]

That was so much fun!

[@Woolypopopeepee]

The arrows should be shorter implying that the arrow is inside the body

[@AdamRich1785]

Great video bro!

[@h4rdkn0x]

You can harden the wooden arrow tips with fire, works on wooden spears and stakes too.

[@Dontlicktheballoons]

Please do air squibs!!

[@johannaverplank4858]

I would love to see a colab with Scott Prop & Roll!

[@gamertherapyconsoleyoursel5804]

Amazing vid and I'm super jealous!

[@codemanthe2nd343]

So so much fun

[@BuckeyeStormsProductions]

Really great video!

[@Ernzt8]

Spectacular!

[@remog38]

Excellent thank you .

[@Asgar1205]

Awesome video

[@giraffeapproved]

This is awesome.

[@Meeckle]

Subbed, that was very cool

[@MurpheysDiner]

This is amazing

[@snozking]

this is epic

[@atacstringer8573]

Very interesting video and very cool effects still very dangerous though

[@AlucardNoir]

Who needs Corridor Crew CGI when you have this guy's practical effects!?

[@danilooliveira6580]

god I would love so much a practical effects vs CGI competition. it would be so fun to watch

[@Klomster88]

This is a fun nice vid, excellent!

[@Woodledude]

This is all very cool. By the way, with your freehand shot - I'm a novice archer myself, but from my understanding, consistency is key to accuracy. So "I don't need a full draw for this" might not be the right way to think about this - Yes, the arrow has less power, but if your aim is more off because you're shooting from an unfamiliar position, it could hit in a worse spot and be dangerous anyway. You're already using a light draw bow, I say do full draw and get more accuracy and consistency. A slightly strong shot that's slightly off is way better than a weak shot that's way off, in my opinion. That said - Freehanding a shot like that safely is absolutely sketchy without a very skilled archer behind the bow, and I'm glad you were able to highlight that perfectly. That shot hit basically right in the eye. I don't care what the draw weight is, I'd rather not have a pair of steel prongs and a wooden shaft ram into one of my orbs of sight, thank you.

[@timsterrett2417]

I subscribed just now, hopefully you can make steady videos and get lots of patrions!!

[@theoverlord3839]

This is great!

[@Fat__Tony]

Definatlely should try gunshot injury effects

[@dfgaJK]

14:22 aw :( I was quietly hoping one would nail the camera 😆

[@MaxBrainDevices]

Un video fantastico devo avere quel libro

[@retrosim4197]

Flame arrows next ?

[@TylerBellMakes]

@@retrosim4197 👀

[@jasonz7788]

Cool thanks 👍

[@KaFoom]

I remember this from corridors crew stuntmen react I think. Scary stuff

[@Tinius]

Look into Howard Hill. He is near inarguably the finest archer of any era in written history.

[@J.J.Jones8611]

An old Kurosawa film Throne of Blood legit had archers firing real arrows and aiming to miss so the fear in the actor's eyes is very real

[@Rouverius]

I used to be an adventurious KZbinr like you. Then I took an arrow in the knee... Seriously, impressive stuff 👍

[@wiebevdmeij]

Love the vid

[@TokyoCraftsman]

Very cool