Fire weather: climate chaos is already here | The Chris Hedges Report

Few places illustrate the destructive cycle of fossil fuel-driven climate change as well as Alberta, Canada. Home to the tar sands boom, the province's remote north has also become a site of some of the worst climate disasters in recorded history-like the 2016 Fort McMurray Fire, which swallowed up 1.5 million acres and burned for three months. John Vaillant, author of Fire Weather: A True Story from a Hotter World, joins The Chris Hedges Report to discuss the Fort McMurray Fire, the tar sands industry responsible for the conditions that produced it, and the tinderbox world Big Oil has made in its all-consuming pursuit of profit.
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[@cd2437]

climate crisis? or globalist corporate capitalist terrrorism? I think some of us at least know what we're actually watching

[@JeanLucCaptain]

Let’s be real the liberals hate Alberta and have treated it like a colony for a while now. These fires are being DELIBERATELY set by eco terrorists.

[@nicolatesla5786]

No Earth has had three greenhouse gas mass extinction events. They occurred between $224 million years ago and 55 million years ago. They're all caused by volcanic CO2 emissions. The duration of the emissions at least in the most recent 155 million years ago, the duration of the CO2 mission was about 6,000 years. It pushed planetary CO2 levels to 1200 parts per million. And it was a partial Extinction causing most of the species loss in the world's oceans. The world's oceans absorbs 425% of the thermal black body radiation in the atmosphere so likely the species in the oceans died first but it wasn't quite hot enough to kill biodiversity on the planet's surface. Humans are burning what is essentially ancient carbon dioxide that was trapped in plant life over hundreds of millions of years and we're burning it all at once in a very short time span of 270 years. Most of the carbon dioxide has been released since 1970.

[@Youareme42o]

HAARP

[@PrairieCossack]

How did they hide their tinfoil hats???😂

[@edwardk3]

This was recommended to me, yet I do not follow anything related to it. They're pushing it out there ...

[@aaronneil777]

As a young adult who was treeplanting in the boreal forest of Northern Ontario in the summer of 2016, and remember hearing news reports about this, I would also add to what the author was speaking about, in that it should be mentioned that the forest around fort McMurray was largely replanted by monoculture tree crops (jack pine and black spruce largely) for the forestry industry. When these saplings were planted, some decades ago after harvesting, they were planted in areas that were previously peat bog and devoid of trees. This dried up the peat and made it essentially a massive pile of tinder for what became the firestorm described. So the forestry industry also played a huge role in this catastrophe. Also this could have been avoided if indigenous land management and forest thinning and small burn practices had been adopted in the years leading up to the fire, emphasizing the importance of indigenous knowledge in adaptation to a changing climate. Such a tragedy.

[@freyfaust6218]

If you were planting trees, you would know that trees capture and store water, creating natural barriers to its escape. Trees establish micro-ecologies. Besides, wildfire burn area is down dramatically since the 80s, according to the NFR and NOAAs own data records. So please stop catastrophizing. It's irresponsible.

[@pavel0900]

So forest mismanagement has a huge part to play in this so called “climate catastrophe”. Who would have guessed…?!

[@davidcollin1436]

Indigenous caused the extinction of the horses and wooly mammoth in North America.

[@aaronneil777]

@@pavel0900 it doesn't discredit what the author is presenting. Both climate change and poor forestry practices both led to this fire and most of the large wildfires we're seeing. It's really the ideology of exploitation followed by the people in charge of our civilization that's gotten us into this mess

[@aaronneil777]

@@davidcollin1436 extinction of species isn't necessarily an evil. 99.9 % of all species that have ever existed on earth are extinct. It's about the rate of extinctions that matters to us as humans, if we ourselves do not want to become extinct. It really comes down to what we value.

[@SBb374]

44:50 We didn't just 'become dependant' on this way of life, we were all born into it, and it exists against our will or ability to fight, at least as individuals. It is an infrastructure we must use to survive, and yet it is simultaneously destroying us. This is dystopia.

[@susanmercurio1060]

We hippies back in the 1960s told you that you were addicted to your way of life and tried to demonstrate one way of choosing not to live like that. The government and the media in their pay didn't want you to get any ideas that you could refuse to live the way that supported their narrative and they demonized and marginalized us. Now you see that we were right. P.S. Your belief that you have no will or ability to fight it is a product of the massive amount of propaganda that you are absorbing without your knowledge. I'm still here to tell you that you can break free from the narrative. Caitlin Johnstone writes many articles about propaganda on her website and on Substack.

[@davidpalk5010]

Fossil fuels alone are responsible for the world's polulation quadrupling in just 100 years. Such totally dominent population levels are entirely dependent on finite mineral resources. The siltuation obviously isn't sustainable.

[@StinkCabbage]

Well said

[@peterkilbridge6523]

"...and it exists against our will or ability to fight, at least as individuals." I would invite you to read the anarcho-primitivist philosopher John Zerzan's essay: "He means it. Do you?" TRIGGER WARNING FOR SNOWFLAKES: This essay is about a certain "eco-terrorist" mathematician/philosopher who did indeed have the will and the ability to fight it, and as an individual. CAVEAT LECTOR: The United States Government considered him a violent person. If you watched this video, I'm sure you will grasp the irony.

[@ArtAristocracy]

hello fanatical capitalism

[@susanmercurio1060]

My heart breaks for the wildlife. What did they do to deserve this?

[@belalugrisi1614]

Evolve into humans? It is heartbreaking. They're not even finding crawfish in Louisiana anymore!😢 Best to you, Susan. If we can relieve the suffering of any individual of a species or keep a species alive for even a short time, it is a worthwhile endeavor! I care for many native species, Bluebirds being my favorite.

[@yosefmacgruber1920]

Wildlife do not worry about this stuff, until it happens. Wildfire is natural. It is enough to protect human interests and we can do little or nothing for the wildlife. What we should be concerned about is those who are trying to wreck the economy and our jobs with hokey and blatantly-false "climate change" kind of theories. It is either natural, or else if we must blame somebody, why not the government weather modification? If we must go the conspiracy theory route, why not blame "the usual suspects", the evil government and deep state is up to no good.

[@peterjones4180]

What did we do to deserve you !

[@edwardk3]

AND THE WOMEN DON'T FORGET HOW CLIMATES AFFECT WOMEN!

[@genrcflyer]

@@belalugrisi1614 Here in central KS, the quail, pheasant and many other birds are almost gone. The crawfish are gone and not that many turtles to be found either. I cut firewood and this past winter, I could go down in the timber and was lucky to see A bird. Note I didn't say THE birds.

[@voltrevolt8731]

John Valliant's book is really excellent. One of the best books I've ever read, really. He's a very good writer who deeply explored the subject matter -- very highly recommended.

[@alfmaxey6090]

Thanks for the recommendation 😢

[@dinyhotmail]

Alsus Huxley's "Brave New World" explains what has happened in our society.

[@gabrielmaroto18]

Never have I ever experience 60° in March in Minnesota! The first winter ever we haven’t been able to take the family sledding no snow this entire winter in Minnesota !

[@fredwagner240]

Crazy isn't it. Maybe take a mini vacation to California if you can afford it.

[@radiotec76]

We got up to 85° in Houston. Even for Houston we shouldn’t be this warm. It should be in the low 70°s. When I was attending University of Houston in the ‘80s I still wore a sweater in the morning yet I still hear deniers saying it’s not happening and that we’re even cooling. It’s just astonishing.

[@lisasmith1850]

Yeah, here in Western Pennsylvania the ground remains warm. It's the first year that I remember the ground has not frozen at all through the entire winter.

[@freeheeler09]

Gabriel, I’m in the foothills of the California Sierra Nevada. We’ve barely seen frost or snow this year. For all of the snow at higher elevations, below 4,000 feet we didn’t have a winter.

[@TheHonestPeanut]

In MA we haven't had a solid ground freeze in years. This year is the worst for Maple syrup a lot of farmers can remember.

[@jamesparker1071]

DEW's...Floods and fires and earthquakes at the flip of a switch.....

[@julienkinsale4957]

I am a welder who spent about 10 tours in Fort Mac. Starting in 1983 to 1987. I then had a 23-year leave from Canada. I went back to 2011 and 2012. I was in Long Lake for six months where I had a serious episode of asthma. Chris your guest is spot-on about camp life and the life for workers in the town of Ft. Mac. And the workers from Cape Breton and the other Maritime provinces. I watched the fires from Phoenix AZ in 2016 and ‘23 with deep sorrow because I was so familiar with Ft Mac. Thanks for the education from another point of view.

[@freyfaust6218]

Asthma is first and foremost an emotional problem, not a disease.

[@elainemcalister9561]

​@@freyfaust6218Seriously? Asthma is primarily a reaction to environmental pollutants, or for some allergies. Yes, some may have asthma attacks because of stress, physical or emotional, but the underlying condition come from the damage done by things in the air we breathe.

[@freyfaust6218]

An emotional state, as a source for a physical reaction. For example if people falsely believe that co2 is a pollutant they will develop anxious breathing cycles. In fact, it is a lack of co2 in the lungs which has been noted in asthmatics. That's why one approach to managing the condition is to breathe into a paper bag and rebreathe that air, augmenting the co2 content.

[@freyfaust6218]

Controlled breathing patterns can provoke asthma for the same reason. Atmospheric gas content regulation is done automatically by heart and breath rhythm adjustments. Studies done on people who practice controlled breathing show augmented cases of asthma. Also, there are indications that mouth breathing can allow too many unfriendly bacteria to deposit and build colonies in the lungs, slowing normal evacuation processes.

[@elainemcalister9561]

@@freyfaust6218 you are confusing asthma with other conditions. You can ease asthma with controlled breathing, but can't cure it. People with anxiety can have trouble breathing, same for those who have panic attacks. People doing strenuous exercise can also have trouble with their breathing. Just because you have trouble breathing does not mean you are having an asthma attack. A person who gets asthma can be sitting peacefully in a room with others, and if there is something in the air, or that they ingest, which they are allergic to, they could have an asthma attack. They don't need to know they have been exposed.

[@danielclint1033]

Just put a blue roof on it and you are fine, isn’t that odd?

[@Youareme42o]

Look up HAARP

[@Maureen_Schilder]

Directed Energy Weapons caused this destruction (they blamed it on climate change : a LIE)~ and then in 2017 the DEW's attacked Santa Rosa, CA, Australia 2018 & then Paradise, CA 2019.

[@bobbyshorn]

I'm from Canada and this is the best reporting of the subject of Albert and the environment. This news items puts Canadian news and reporting to shame. This is amazing work Real New Network.

[@ilkatrailrunner467]

I agree and it certainly needs more coverage and attention- daily attention- instead of the ridiculous trump show. To be fair though this topic and John’s book in particular has been reported on CBC radio and in a CBC podcast.

[@willieduffie4967]

This is why "corporate news 📰" needs to disappear!"

[@heatherscott3008]

John Vaillant is a journalist from Vancouver so it's a Canadian book. It is an engrossing read.

[@geraldineperry]

@@ilkatrailrunner467 you mean "Trump/Biden" show? ALL of which is skillfully orchestrated theater

[@dinyhotmail]

That's sad because I do love the Fifth Estate. It is hard hitting. I live in Northern New York State but I often watch them on KZbin. I might write to them to ask them to cover what I have posted here. Psychopaths have caused this. Psychiatrists state this. This needs to come out.

[@rbj5767]

The Horrors of the current corporate dystopia beautifully spoken❣️⚡️🙏‼️🌎🇺🇸💔💔💔💔💔💢😞

[@JohnPretty1]

The corporates love the disaster narrative.

[@jeffreymorrissey6064]

Don’t you mean “Government Dystopia?”

[@edwardcarberry1095]

@@jeffreymorrissey6064 The CORRUPT Governments are the Puppets for those WHO, WEF , DAVO's pull their Strings.

[@KbB-kz9qp]

From the spatula one uses to scramble eggs for breakfast in the morning, to the toothbrush you use before bedtime, a person handles plastics all day, everyday. From the plastic disposable diapers a baby wears, to the permanent-press polyester suit he is buried in as an old man, it’s plastics all day every way.

[@carpediem44]

And all that's CHOICE. Just 70 years ago, everything was metal, glass, cardboard, waxed paper, jute, cotton...

[@kenanacampora]

Go watch a surgery.

[@carpediem44]

This is why I buy nearly everything from thrift store. Old school goods made of old school materials.

[@michaelduncan6287]

Wool​@@carpediem44

[@dinyhotmail]

Yes, I have a big problem with that. I also have big problem with plastic recycling that ends up in everything including our bodies.

[@davidschlessinger9945]

the people perpetrating this ecocide are some of the most depraved, psychotically greated, evil jerks the world has ever known

[@coolioso808]

True. But they are created by their maker: The Market God of Capitalism. That is the Unsustainable Anti-Economy Beast that we, as humanity, must dismantle and build a better one if we hope to see any sort of a peaceful, sustainable and just future. Bad news? Ain't going to be easy. Lots of education to be done, lots of organizing to be done, a lots of persistence needed. Good news? It is the right thing to do and if we get strength in numbers, the collaborative effect of people working the right direction, in their communities, sharing information and strategies along the ideas Mutual Aid and Ubuntu Contributionism (and other structures of that nature) - we can be successful in creating a better society to live in and leave something worth living in for our next generations.

[@richardpluim4426]

There is nothing wrong with the climate.

[@timfallon8226]

Tell us of your life and how you manage without using fossil fuels? That you can post on the Internet using a computer made from twigs and mud is amazing, share your technology with everyone.

[@PhilMccamley]

​@@timfallon8226so what?

[@davidschlessinger9945]

shilling for the oil companies!@@richardpluim4426

[@daniellatanswell3990]

Outstanding interview! Thanks Chris ;-)

[@ShaunB-hd1fi]

Plasma fires... Car engines and rims are melting in so-called wild fires.

[@rdallas81]

Wood fires burn hot enough to melt aluminum easily. Rims are aluminum and mild steel Wood and wind burns hot. 2000 F and higher.

[@martinsanders5418]

@@rdallas81 I think maybe you're just repeating what the 'experts' have been instructed to tell you? The fact is, that this hasn't been noted in forest fires of previous years, and I'm pretty sure if people had witnessed such, they would have been equally taken aback and highlighted it. So what's made the difference, climate change?

[@Youareme42o]

Well the engine block is IRON it's all done on purpose using HAARP and other weapons

[@raycar1165]

@@Youareme42odissidents are often hidden. If you go back to the video, then select newest comments first, and then scroll to find the thread. It will show up.

[@danielclint1033]

Yes Chris, DEW has become common place.

[@fluidsystems1554]

John Valliant, thank you for your journalism & research illustrating this dissociated petrocene effect on daily living...

[@johnhenry3536]

"The Texas of Canada". Well, that says it all for those that know how Texas thinks (and treats) the planet. After 20+ years blogging about the collapsing biosphere, here is what I have learned: Nobody is going to listen and nobody is going to take positive actions that will prevent catastrophe. All we are doing is "documenting our demise" inch by inch (and then faster and faster). We are well on our way to destruction. Empty promises from politicians and hopium from scientists. It's a potent mix of human stupidity. I got so frustrated that I stopped writing (more then once). Ignorance and apathy rooted in stupidstition and a hatred of scientific facts. In the US, we all know this. Canada is just another piece of the puzzle, this profound stupidity is found all over the planet.

[@matthewaxford655]

Idiocracy writ large and by design! My whole life has been a reprogramming endeavor. This whole civilization has been a LIE! 💯

[@russtaylor2122]

Yep. Chronicling our collapse, with a side order of 'If we just...' Solar panels, electric cars... Blah blah. ALL require fossil fuels for their manufacture and timely replacement. WASF.

[@gmw3083]

The ice age is ending. Rejoice

[@VivaLaAntifa3]

@@gmw3083 Is this meant ironically or denial of human made climate change?

[@gmw3083]

@VivaLaAntifa3 It means that earth is as alive as we are. But also eternal and ever changing. Essentially, it's God. The masses are driven, one way or another, to do the will of God. You can row your boat gently. Or keep pushing a rock up a hill every day. Thy will be done...

[@crazystewart34]

The wildfires in Alberta 2023 were significantly more severe than the Ft. Mac fire of 2016.

[@arctichero1]

How many were started by arsonists? Apparently quite a few were arrested.

[@crazystewart34]

@@arctichero1 that is always the fallback default answer. While you are at it, go weld something in a lake of gasoline.

[@freeheeler09]

Arctic, most fire starts are caused by folks burning brush or driving through tall grass or tossing a cigarette out the window. In high winds, powerlines go down. Most of the time, the grass isn’t dry enough to ignite, even for arsonists. But we’ve burned so many billions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere in so few years that we are quickly heading up the planet. You and I and Exxon and the coal companies started those fires by burning fossil fuels.

[@thehellyousay]

"this stab wound was worse than that that stab wound." "you're bleeding to death." "yeah, but this one was worse than that one ..."

[@arctichero1]

@@crazystewart34 Have you seen the Maui fires, as an example, where metal and glass melted yet palm trees and grass were untouched? Perhaps, if you did a little homework on DEWs, you'd gain a little insight. The majority of men prefer delusion to the truth. It soothes. It is easy to grasp. Above all, it fits more snugly than the truth into a universe of false appearances.

[@cheri238]

Thank you again, Chris Hedges and John Vailant, for this excellent opportunity to hear this conversation. This is my second time listening.

[@chyfields]

Same! I listened twice.

[@binder946]

I think hedges is ivy league

[@panglayman5576]

I heard from my grandfather about the Dust Bowl days and Black Sunday of the 1930s and felt in awe about how people survived something like that. Now that current temperatures have exceeded those, our generation is seeing first hand how those people coped and the hardships they faced. After living through this year, it is frightening to think that next year will be worse. Amazing that so many are complacently living out their lives in the face of all of this. How much hotter does it have to get before people wake up !!!

[@donnavorce8856]

Without mining water from the Oglala Aquifer we would be in another dust bowl right now. The corn-belt (raising mostly feed corn for beef cattle in crowded industrial lots) would have dust clouds, few crops, not much life.

[@adamgorelick3714]

@panglayman5576 As horrible as the freak weather events of the 1930's were, there was no reason for the average person to see a bleak future. The reality of the anthropocene presents us with a far more terminal future - that is, if we continue this madness.

[@danielfaben5838]

A good question remains. What does waking up mean? Can modern citified, industrially supported "citizens" actually do anything such as not using fossil fuels? I think not. When awoken, is there anything other than wishing to exit stage left?

[@donnavorce8856]

For me it's making mindful choices at the market place. Treading as lightly as possible on the planet. Being a person who is frugal, wastes very little, does all the things possible to not hurt the planet. I purchase very little new. Recycle, shop thrift stores, garden and permaculture. Ride my bike. Lots of little things that are easy and nearly anyone can do immediately.@@danielfaben5838

[@davidpeppers551]

​@@danielfaben5838I've been wondering the same thing. You can reduce your impact on the margins, but how do we get to zero while putting food on the table and having the money for necessities?

[@northpole9311]

Worked in the patch we referred it as MORDOR everyone knows what that means who work up there.....as fires go just wait till this summer with such a warm winter it’s going to be unimaginable...

[@janklaas6885]

hell yeahhh 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Youareme42o]

HAARP is the reason Google if you don't know what HAARP is

[@kated3165]

@@Youareme42o No dude, its much more simple than that... its the big corporations, especially the oil industry. Its all about generating profits at the expense of even our species survival.

[@kated3165]

That's what I was thinking. Winter has never been so.... absent, here in Quebec! Barely ANY precipitation at all. Can count on one hand the times we had to shovel!! This summer is going to be catastrophic at this rate...

[@munyansebastien7127]

@@kated3165 Talk about it. In the winter I work on snow removal (rooftops) and I've never seen as little snow as this winter in the 17 years I did this. You won't find many "climate skeptics" in our profession.

[@CapnSnackbeard]

Passive-ism has replaced pacifism.

[@TheHonestPeanut]

It's called despair.

[@CapnSnackbeard]

@@TheHonestPeanut I think it is called detachment.

[@CapnSnackbeard]

@@TheHonestPeanut "woe is me, my governemnt steals the best stuff."

[@TheHonestPeanut]

@@CapnSnackbeard it's called despair whether you gaslight and red herring people or not.

[@Wamsuo58u]

Yah it's despondency

[@Papawcanner]

Don’t start thinkin drive that Lincoln everything’s gonna be fine….FrankZappa I remember cotton , jute, wool, wood, steel, ice boxes, kerosene lamps, hand draw wells, outhouses, horses, butter churns, hand tools, chickens, pigs, cows, sheep, working dogs, vegetable gardens and the constant grinding work . We were happy .

[@user-wf2ls3bj6v]

L❤ve you Chris!!!

[@ChickpeatheTortie]

Yes and you are not the only one :-)

[@Llllltryytcc]

I was lucky enough to bump into him a few times when I lived in the same area he did, seriously one of the nicest people around.

[@JosephBoxmeyer]

The abnormal numbers of food production facilities burning cannot be connected to global warming. The Lahaina fires must be considered suspicious, as neither were efforts made to extinguish them, nor were there any efforts to help the victims. And now they are declaring their intentions to repurpose that land and not allow the house owners back.

[@dinyhotmail]

Some could be because of global warming because companies cut corners but I will research the rest of what you said. Thank you.

[@sweetyogi99]

Thank you Chris. You’re a king.

[@carpediem44]

In Michigan, there are now days in the 60s in February and in the 70s in March. People cheer without stopping to think: if it's 40 degrees above normal in March, what happens when it's 40 degrees above normal in August?

[@davemalinak6802]

In Minnesota we had no snow. No ice fishing . It didn’t get cold enough to freeze the soil . I’ve farmed my whole life and every year it gets a little harder to do . Not sure this year I’m going to put steel to the soil

[@debravictoria7452]

It's cyclical, not static. The magnetosphere has been thinning, so there's less protection from uv rays. Nothing we do will stop the earth and climate from doing what it does. Count on the powers that be to use it in their favor. (Land grabs and wealth transfer) Of course we need to restrict the pollution we create. Companies like Dupont, etc need to have consequences for their actions. Also, dumping waste products into our water supply and convince the ADA that it's good for teeth, needs to stop. (They sell their hazardous waste instead of paying for proper disposal🤦‍♀️)

[@gr8macaw1]

We had a very mild summer last year in California. I wonder what the 24 summer will bring.

[@Owl350]

Thanks again for your help with this !!!

[@GregoryJWalters]

Super conversation!

[@yorkiebuck]

A superb broadcast.

[@gypsystargirl6626]

No talk about the accelerants from the nano particulates from the spraying in our skies? Its causing the infernos worldwide!!

[@davidcollin1436]

Every sunny day is followed by high altitude spraying the next day. Dropping filth and endless stripes of dirty contrails that last for hours instead of seconds.

[@yosefmacgruber1920]

And way too little talk about how wildfires are natural and nothing new, and how normal wind can be a big culprit. However, if we must blame somebody, why not blame the government weather modification? As least that is a whole lot better theory than blaming the common people for merely existing, via hokey theories such as "climate change". I blame the usual suspects, the rampant government corruption, the evil liar politicians, the evil deep state, the 1% that pretends like it is okay to trash our economy and our jobs and accuse us of having "too many" children.

[@penguinuprighter6231]

Oh grow up you silly people

[@edwardcarberry1095]

@@penguinuprighter6231 So Explain Patent # 0462795, Method of Producing More Rainfall". Explain the 16,000 patents on it then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eweou are way past Silly. S *****

[@danielfaben5838]

These men have marvelous verbal abilities. Communicating this material is vital. Thank you so much. The plastic world will burn.

[@peterjones4180]

Pity so much of the twaddle they peddle is pure deceit on many things.

[@na72687]

Great reporting. Thank you.

[@d.thorpe2046]

I moved from Ontario to Alberta in 2022. I was offered 150k CDN to work at the Ford dealership in Fort Mac. I took a 120k job in Edmonton

[@carpediem44]

How much did your food cost? How much was your rent? Your internet, cable, phone, clothing? I bet that 120K was gone by year's end.

[@d.thorpe2046]

@@carpediem44 I am a very frugal person. It meant I had 5k left every month instead of 1k

[@Zenhumanist]

I'm from Aberdeen in the North East of Scotland. Oil and Gas has put us on the map so can totally relate to what John Vaillant is saying in the latter half of the interview.

[@bohditony]

Thanks for your report.

[@lancechapman3070]

Nate calls this the Mordor economy 😮

[@rjridge6791]

Great show!

[@cidavis1964]

Really useful discussion - very well presented discussion and I learnt a lot 🙏🏾

[@TennesseeJed]

We are not going to slow down our civilization's use of energy until we are forced to by the brutality of nature.

[@donnavorce8856]

You're probably correct. Seeing how our species refuses to learn from history. And seems only capable of Re-action rather than Pro-action.

[@TennesseeJed]

@@donnavorce8856 Moloch (beyond greed into supernatural perverse competition) has us cornered on the chess board of civilization bottlenecks.

[@annaaurora81303]

If we didn't have a military medical industrial complex we wouldn't be in this position. It's a mini ice age it's a proven fact. All the fires especially Lahaina it is directed energy weapons. Blue beam technology, there's proof. Eventually people will have to face the reality of evil and lies. Peace be with you.

[@annaaurora81303]

​@@TennesseeJedGood thing there are Gatekeepers of Hel that have more power. Baal, Beelzebub, Cain, and way more Leigons of intelligence then people could ever comprehend in Excalibur.

[@susanmercurio1060]

I think that it's the brutality of our behavior and the curative powers of nature.

[@briangrigsby1842]

WE are in for a bumpy ride. Too many people, it seems, believe emotionally.

[@belalugrisi1614]

Too many people. Full stop.

[@davemalinak6802]

I think a bumpy ride is going to be an understatement.

[@susanmercurio1060]

All people believe emotionally. Some people can use their rational mind to outvote their emotions.

[@yosefmacgruber1920]

@@belalugrisi1614 Not too many people. We are supposed to multiply. But people believe their liar TVs rather than their Bibles, which makes them incredibly gullible and immoral. As a pro-lifer, I have long encouraged people to have larger families, so that the human life may increase. More people to benefit from life.

[@quintama1007]

Chris Hedges always keeps it real.

[@peterjones4180]

Rubbish. Keeping it real would have required him to remind everyone of James Hansons decades long history of scientific fraud, exaggeration, and predictions of climate disasters that never happen.

[@GlobeHackers]

It would be helpful if you mentioned your guest in the show notes.

[@plantbasedsenior4240]

John Vaillant, Fire Weather: The Making of a Beast. If that's not what you are looking for, I apologize.

[@growitheflow]

I was there when it happened. It was like being inside of a chimney.

[@jo-annerichardson34]

As a Canadian when this happened in Fort McMurry I really thought, nievly, the 'Tar Sands' would be shut down. It is unbelievable that didn't happen.

[@jeffreystasi2754]

We are so fucked

[@thehellyousay]

albion heavy synthetic crude is what they called the goop from alberta when i worked on the barnett highway pipeline breach cleanup in burnaby bc back in 2007. 100,000 real (144 gallons) bbls of oilsands crude coated the neighbourhood. i'm guaranteed to develop cancer from working that cleanup.

[@Silks-]

This was brilliant. Concise, included many salient issues that people can directly relate to, instilled urgency without coming across as manipulatively alarmist to people who may not believe. Hats off to how you both conducted that interview.

[@maxmurphy7306]

It doesn't matter any more. We already crossed the threshold, there's no going back.

[@matthewaxford655]

A+

[@anthonydavies6021]

When you are in a hole don't keep digging!

[@donnavorce8856]

Maybe so. What I tell people is plant a lot of fruit trees and small fruits, plant a big garden. Set up rain barrels to capture roof water. Learn some survival skills. Get some books and read about it. Get a small flock of quail or chickens for eggs and meat. Rabbits would make a good investment as well. Learn some self defense also because when the SHTF and the veneer of civility is gone, there will be nutters on the loose looking to take what you have - your food, your wife, your kids.

[@Trox2018]

I mean, why even bother to post such an inane comment.

[@oliviachipperfield6029]

Agreed

[@coweatsman]

What made kerosene so popular in the later 19th century? The shortage of whale oil due to the over harvesting of whales. Moby Dick details the whaling industry as well as being a gripping story of human hubris.

[@donniemoder1466]

We rely on oil every minute of the day. We can't give it up. My grandmother started life without cars, electricity.

[@StinkCabbage]

What a damn shame

[@solarlight10]

All this technology is great but it has become unsustainable with the massive pop growth in the past 100yrs.

[@RobertojavierSilvaharth-ub3pz]

Dying to make a living, as if that makes any sense, it is exactly what we are increasingly doing. From the dangers to our health all the way to death and destruction by war, we are risking it all just to make a living, and in the midst of this business we are forgetting how to live simply, how to enjoy life without extraordinary gratifications to get away from the mundane.

[@davidcollin1436]

Destiny of mental slavery.

[@raycar1165]

The world needs to see this. Much ❤ Love 🌎🌏🌍☯️⚡️

[@davidhutchinson5233]

For my own part, I gave up the car years ago. Working from home, it just doesn't make sense anymore.

[@nickknez8294]

RIP, pond hockey😔 I’m glad I was able to play hockey on frozen ponds for many years. My kids won’t have that luxury. Thanks greed heads!

[@radman1136]

"Pond hockey"? Your kids won't have food to eat. Neither will you.

[@Nine-Signs]

@@radman1136 I doubt our food supplies are in jeopardy IF managed correctly at least not in the short to medium term. Presently humanity produces twice the amount of food it needs to feed the population 2500 calories a day per person, the reason a billion people are still going hungry despite this is because capitalism incentivises humanity to feed 50% of the food it produces to animals primarily consumed by the top 10% predominantly western population. Under capitalism, it is simply more profitable to feed a hamburger to a fat American than feed grains to a starving child. The knock on effect of that also being that a third of global greenhouse gas emissions are from human kept animal agriculture. 1 billion cows all farting away producing mass methane emissions and producing 14kg of Co2 for every Kg of edible beef produced for one notable example.

[@peterjones4180]

REALLY ???, snow cover has been INCREASING for quite some time. Many countries are experiencing RECORD COLD.

[@Nine-Signs]

@@peterjones4180 ^ why are you lying about something so incredibly easy to look up the facts of showing you to be lying. What exactly did you gain from lying other than protecting your personal beliefs from being altered by reality which is a behaviour most children grow out of by the time they learn there is no tooth fairy.

[@peterjones4180]

@@Nine-Signs Clearly YOU have not done the research you should have done. List ALL the things YOU think i am lying about and i will educate you. I dont have beliefs. I have data ! Of the two of us its clear YOU are the tooth fairy believer.

[@jlwann9584]

Utah has tar sands and leases sold to strip mine and manufacture oil.

[@andreleblanc7616]

I live in New-Brunswick Canada and this winter has been absolutely bizarre in every sense, feels more like fall weather sometimes. We are fucking-up the climate in ways that will become more and more evident in the coming years.

[@edwardlulofs444]

As a physicist, I agree with the understanding described in this video.

[@peterjones4180]

REALLY, specify each understanding you support...in detail.

[@edwardlulofs444]

@@peterjones4180 I’m busy. Perhaps you can tell me what, if anything, that you object to? Books and scholarly papers have been published on every aspect of what is being discussed. Just because no one likes what is being presented doesn’t mean that it’s false! My descendants are at stake here! What could be more important?

[@peterjones4180]

@@edwardlulofs444 A large amount of books scientific papers and government data have been published, demonstrating that much of what Hanson says is factually incorrect..

[@peterjones4180]

@@edwardlulofs444 Having watched Hanson bullshit since the 1970's and observed his perspectives on most things demonstrated to be wrong over the decades why would anyone take him seriously. Former NASA engineers and scientists called for his sacking for bringing the agency into disrepute when he rewrote the historic climate records of the U.S artificially making the past cooler and the present warmer. Frankly he destroyed his professional reputation long ago like Michael Mann by indulging in practices contrary to the scientific method..

[@edwardlulofs444]

@@peterjones4180 you have no credibility with me without citing sources. I don’t easily believe people that I don’t know. Trolls and bots are common around controversial topics.

[@davidbouchard8963]

This interview was brilliant. I don’t think the author was right about everything he said, but certainly more insightful and informed than most by far. His perspective is brilliant .

[@russtaylor2122]

What did you disagree with?

[@TheEricrya]

Please more global warming and ecological coverage❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@fredgoch8251]

Excellent! I just ordered the book. Thank you!

[@kp6215]

Not normal to me because my grandparents imprinted their life to their children that I have in my soul because I lived in the wilderness.

[@leskuzyk2425]

Where I grew up and worked the oilfield for a decade, is the same geological formation as Fort MacMurray but further south, south of the Cold Lake field which is buried there, and buried even deeper a little more to the south. Very shallow oilwells, and the oil is heavy oil. The further south, the deeper the wells and the lighter the oil. Steam flooded oilwell production would be normal around Cold Lake and further south. Secondary recovery's the conventional naming of steam flooding. Higher cost production, lower value heavy oil. One of the least intelligent moves by the fossil fuel burning species.

[@ladyslipperland]

To the Big Oil & Gas supporters in the comment thread...Scioence doesn't care what you believe.

[@wizzyno1566]

Unfortunately the human world doesnt care what science says

[@davidcollin1436]

Safe and effective 😂

[@paulharris1502]

"Fires are relatively common in Canada" John Valliant

[@jamesigo6324]

The Athabasca river flows through those tar sands forming tar sand islands!

[@donniemoder1466]

Horror story. Just the existence of these oil mining projects is horrifying.

[@baneverything5580]

Stop using all oil products, produce your own food, clothes, lumber, water, etc. Stop being a hypocrite and DO IT!

[@jamesdyck9998]

OMG This absolutely pales in comparison to the worldwide mining operations required to extract the soup of minerals required for the so called "green revolution", most of which is mined and/or processed by China using coal. WAKE UP ALREADY, China is building a coal plant every week to supply their ferocious appetite for the worst filthy energy required to build your planet saving green machines, to say nothing of the tremendous amount of water required. Don't you think that requires COAL mining??? Canada emits 1.5% of global emissions and China and India over 30%. I thought this was a GLOBAL problem. Nobody is denying "climate change". The climate has never been static since the earth was formed. Vilify Alberta if you must, but quit being so blinded from what's happening in the rest of the world. If we (FILTHY ALBERTA) were to supply China with all the natural gas required to replace their coal fired plants, those emissions would drop by 50%. Why does no one want to address this??? According to Justin T, there is no business case for this - how utterly uninformed can you get. Of course it's those greedy oil companies' fault.

[@peterjones4180]

Really, lets see YOU survive without products and services based on mineral oil.

[@gerryboudreaultboudreault2608]

Canada itself is not to blame; the USA also financed it. And now China has its foot in the door..

[@marzcowboyofuranus3937]

Business as usual= Lethal insanity.

[@peterjones4180]

How about YOU go and live with the technology of the 16th century.

[@hollyw9566]

It's truly the Land of Mordor.

[@michaelduby7244]

Thank you.

[@user-vt9jd4tc5h]

For Moloch, for Remphan, for Rome

[@ReesCatOphuls]

40:30 Dear Chris, you should consider talking to Tadzio Mueller. He talks about a verdrangung society of guilt and shame. Where people experiencing disasters don't take action. They push away uncomfortable truths. Expectation: when factoring in climate change and planetary boundaries the arc of history is short and tends towards Fascism.

[@ReesCatOphuls]

44:50 Really ties in well with Nate Hagens: "mindless super organism", Schmachtenburger: "Moloch" William Catton: "Homo Colossus" Lewis Mumford: "magnificent bribe" Upton Sinclair: "Hard to make someone believe something, when their income depends on them not understanding it" Fitness-beats-truth And these are just forces which affect the trajectory of our species. The difficulty of applying limits. And that layered on top of the damage we have already inflicted onto planetary health and the lags, feedbacks, tipping points baked in.

[@glengrant3884]

GREAT WORK GUYS!!💥💪 AUSTRALIA!!🤍💙❤️💥👊

[@genrcflyer]

I was looking at the firewood bundles for sale outside a convenience store the other day, noticing the formation of the rings. That single piece of oak took nature 30 years to create. The rings in the center varied but were all during wetter weather as evidenced by the gap between the rings. The last third of those rings are much closer together and the last ones very close indicating drought years. Here in central US, there are thousands of unharvested soybean acres and the other crops were about a third or so of normal due to drought and excessive heat. Global warming threatens the global food supply and is a whole lot bigger problem than the reasons wars are being fought at this time.

[@brodieofficial]

This was an amazing conversation. Thank you.

[@stevemacgruther4051]

The tar sands are the largest industrial and ecological disaster on the planet.

[@belalugrisi1614]

That title goes to the nuclear industry, who have created 420,000 tons of 'spent' nuclear fuel that need constant grid power and tending to keep the waste from burning unquenchably. Take good care~

[@richardpluim4426]

Ever been to a lithium mine? They put The oilsands to shame and the mines up north are refilled and the forest regrown.

[@TukozAki]

What @@belalugrisi1614 write is true yet 420k tons fit in ONE supertanker or TWO recent containers ships. Who knows Copper mines alone have already produced billions tons of waste a large part of it is toxic to most life forms? And "they" say we have to increase Copper extraction ten folds in the next 26 years.

[@davidcollin1436]

Ridiculous and laughable 😂

[@belalugrisi1614]

@@davidcollin1436 Yak it up while you still can. Take care~

[@stevemacgruther4051]

Sound like Mordor

[@keithk8275]

I see the bots have arrived.

[@biometronome7010]

The movie "Unearth" relates to this subject

[@vsadams]

Panel giving CONTEXT on ClimateChange by UN below your video... 🧐

[@stanstreatfield3485]

This just shows how good Chris Hedges (and the other people behind this show) are. A lot of the other more libertarian left would never do a report like this. They're too busy reporting on Michael Shellenberger's film about offshore wind turbines killing whales, and pointing out the problems with Greta Thunberg.

[@StinkCabbage]

Yep and Jimmy Dore, the ultimate fake leftist, is the number one contributor to climate change denial.

[@elainebraindrain3174]

I live in tucson arizona. To hot. This info about houses burning down in 5 minutes, from flammability, heartwrenching😢 We are all living in fire bombs, oh my, never new this😮

[@elainebraindrain3174]

Living in hell literally! Damnation for all, get me out of here!!!

[@markfrancis5164]

I think a great many people know we’re done for with historic and contemporary emissions. Any late attempts to recover the climatic situation is simply too little too late… I struggled and talked to loads of people a decade or two ago but very few even understood, let alone concerned and they were just not interested. I believe we will be lucky to have a single billion struggling to subsist by the end of the century.

[@GlobeHackers]

See, Nate Hagens, the great simplification

[@AB-tg5mx]

How much does geoengineering and the military affect climate? The solutions being offered are worse for the environment and only benefits the corperations that get to sell us new products we don't need. Why have states like CA stopped clearing dead brush? And why is the Sahara desert turning green? Why is CA claiming a drought when the reservoirs are over full?

[@davidcollin1436]

They promote war yet think bombs and poisoning are green😂

[@penguinuprighter6231]

Some silly stuff

[@roberthornack1692]

Greed = Extinction

[@chyfields]

Thanks

[@marilynrich3456]

I'm a Toronto Canadian. I feel shame that Canada does such massive polluting. The impression I get from the national news again and again is that the people of Alberta, the wealthiest province in Canada, really resent eastern Canada because some of us want less oil dependency and Albertans want to stay wealthy from enthusiastic oil extraction. Also other Canadians say, "we don't want a tax on carbon pollution right now when inflation is so painful". When then ? We've done very little since the 1980s when the dangers of polluting the planet became known. I've done some activism, but I'm finding it too depressing and I feel powerless in the face of the greed of most average people.

[@RR-lq3ef]

I live in B.C. but was in Alberta for many years. Yes alot of people in Alberta resent what comes out of Eastern Canada , the main reason ( and I also feel this way) is because they waves their finger at Alberta but are more than happy to benefit from all tax dollars that flow east to make their lives better. As for carbon taxes, many feel they are ineffective at solving the problem . They feel that Trudeau uses the money just to buy votes and to look good at photo-ops on the world stage . Meanwhile Trudeau jet sets all over the country and world for constant vacations while lecturing everyone about how bad carbon is. Also the people of Alberta and many others in the west feel like they don't have a voice and don't like the Toronto centric media that act like they are the only people that count in Canada. YES there is a big problem with climate change but carbon taxes will not solve it , we need leadership in this country but we don't have it.

[@susanmercurio1060]

The dangers of polluting the planet were known in the 1960s and Rachel Carson published Silent Spring in the 1950s.

[@masterjack2358]

You are so right

[@MrSnowmover]

Plus , check out what Dane Wiggington has to say. It will be decades to slow this train down.

[@4imagesmore]

Wow. Wow.

[@orsboer6122]

John Vaillant's eloquence and knowledge is fascinating. Great conversation!

[@stanleykubrick8786]

Unfortunately Chris asks why we don't react in any meaningful way? Examples of this short term trait of human nature are the basis of Jared Diamond's book: Collapse which is exactly what humanity is going through now on a global scale and has taken place throughout history on smaller regional scales. This is the advantage of A I becuase whereas people have very short memories and forever need to relearn lessons from one generation to the next, A I has an uneraseable record of our behaviour and its consequences. So with all of the current anxiety that many have regarding A I, it may offer us unbiased solutions if we allow it to.

[@gigelchiazna1573]

a single XSpace launch produces more toxic gas and CO2 emissions than one large oil company in a week

[@HaileISela]

the sentiment of energy servants was very reminiscent of Bucky Fuller's notion of "energy slaves". if we really want to get out of the current catastrophic common nonsense, his Synergetics has tremendous potential of paradigmatic changes to our thinking and being.

[@10ring60-bp5ml]

your right Chris its suicidal

[@lsd938]

Wow... extracting bitumen from sand... sounds crazy...

[@moonmaidrainbow]

Wow! Thanks for this expose of the Petro-Life we are unconsciously living! Brilliant and highly relevant!

[@lizzywillow]

the Land speaks.