Firearms Expert Reacts To Counter-Strike 2’s Guns PART 2

[@DrUmbreon]

I do appreciate Dave chiming in for some of the more meta aspects of game design when it comes to these things. Good to have that extra perspective

[@borismuller86]

I believe it was a suggestion made in earlier videos. Glad to see them adding this extra element.

[@zuzusuperfly8363]

I agree, having someone to add context makes the videos feel more complete. I was confused initially when he kept appearing in every video, but he's been adding a lot so now I'm happy to see them make these videos as a team. Oh yea and after this video, the editor is having quite a bit of fun aren't they? I appreciate it, because when you notice the editor, it's because they're trying to emphasise what Jonathan is feeling in a way that isn't disruptive. It adds something to the raw footage that might otherwise be quite dry.

[@benqueso-r1c]

I agree, I just wish he seemed a little happier to be there

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

yep. thats cool of Dave. gamology doesnt do that and reactors go blind

[@Sniper361984]

Agreed. It adds another layer to the commentary, which makes these videos all the more enjoyable.

[@colchronic]

Johnathan cringing at the bison is pure gold S tier

[@samholdsworth420]

It's a bit of fun 😂

[@Piratefoxyfox]

he saw what it truely is and started the griefing after making eye contact with that cat thing possessing the most haunted bizon

[@bossshoang]

😢its horrifying 😢

[@duncanmorris1984]

Its pronounced Bizon.

[@michel4rthur]

Where is his emotional support STG 44

[@reidhanson4755]

Johnathan is a pro at not accidently flagging himself. Even with these totally safe cleared weapons. Dude just exudes proper safety technique.

[@gestaposantaclaus]

I noticed that as well. He has great muzzle awareness.

[@alexwright2302]

18:23 points it right at his temple. But he's fairly good.

[@Finimabob]

@@alexwright2302 if you watch it in slow mo im pretty sure it doesnt

[@projectgg6730]

@@alexwright2302 i think it barely passed over his head. but the fact that he's well aware of the saftey and the care he gives the fire arms is what they were talking about

[@keatonwastaken]

15:18 I believe the AWP is supposed to be .338 variant in this game, that's how they justify it being a lot stronger.

[@LunaDevaKitty]

Surely but it's the wrong designation in that case.

[@TachyKusanagi]

@@LunaDevaKitty Always has been the case. The AWP should've been designated "AWM" in every CS-game, but for some reason they stuck the AWP designation to it.

[@thevalkyrieog]

@@TachyKusanagi I'm sure they did it because AWP sounds a lot cooler to say tbh

[@proosee]

It is, I mean, in 1.6 where you had to buy ammo yourself it was .338, so I assume it is kept in the series this way. They even got it right making it the most expensive ammunition from all available 😅

[@zecaoalfredo4242]

Definitely doesnt look like a 338 tho, the magazine seems like it is too short.

[@dedmajor]

I do love Jonathan. I bet 3 years ago he wouldnt have imagined this series going on for as long as it is and im glad it has because i love his insight

[@cykeok3525]

He's also become something of what I can only describe as a minor celebrity, I'll bet he wasn't expecting that either XD

[@Ashen_Night116]

the R8 Revolver is in fact, an actual revolver that Smith & Wesson has made, specifically the Model 327 Performance Center M&P R8, which does have a 8 round cyclinder chambered in .357.

[@wittywolk]

I suggest showing the CS2 guns without skins, for example when you're showcasing the M4A4 for the Jonathan, you're actually showing the ported CS GO version of M4A4, not the CS2. They're not totally different, but they're different. It would be more appropriate considering the title.

[@Helperbot-2000]

yeah, they significantly increased the details on many guns, and the m4a4 is one of those

[@allenkennedy99]

It's ridiculous that they hadn't figured that out when they were getting the footage for this. Half of this video might as well be a repeat of CSGO's episodes

[@alexisborden3191]

@@allenkennedy99 New games using old models is not unprecedented, MW3 used the same SCAR-H animation from MW2, there's a couple cars in the new Forza Motorsport that date back to 1, 2, and 3. I don't think its that wild to assume they just copy pasted it, especially when almost everyone does use a skin in game.

[@allenkennedy99]

Aye, but not even all skins use the old models. Some have been updated already

[@hufass]

@@allenkennedy99 only some skins valve has made themselves have been updated, no skins from cases that were created by artists on the steam workshop have been updated

[@Lohkey]

such a fun series. I really enjoy that even when Jonathan is "appalled" by aesthetics, as he was with the Bizon, he still laughs it off and recognizes that it's just not to his taste, and a vidya game after all. Find myself smiling and laughing a long quite a bit to this series. Thanks!

[@AE1OU]

Please Jonathan, break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out. So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video for the game.

[@bobbu-bq7rc]

Good luck, you been requesting for mgs3 for years now and still no dice lol Would definitely like to see Jonathan's reaction to the officer m1911a1.

[@ongogablogian4315]

Dont worry lad very obvious from gaemspot's motivations they would very likely make a metal gear solid 3 react video when the remake is almost out so they can garner them hype views, unlike order 1886 which is a dead game with no upcoming sequels or remakes 🤣

[@PersonWMA]

The remaster collection should at least provide higher fidelity captures of the guns there, plus the cutscenes, so it should be possible.

[@tbotalpha8133]

@@ongogablogian4315 The Order 1886 faithful will have their day! All five of us!

[@paulopatine]

45, huh? Incredible. The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen. The slide's been reinforced and the interlock with the frame is tightened for added precision. The sight system is original, too. The thumb safety is extended to make it easier on the finger. A long-type trigger with non-slip grooves. A ring hammer. The base of the trigger guard's been filed down for a higher grip. And not only that, nearly every part of this gun has been expertly crafted and customized...

[@CashMan18CZ]

Use the newer models for the guns in CS2 and you can avoid it by not using skins or you can show the newer model saying that it's the new model and then the skin saying that it's the model from CS:GO

[@TedNeeTed]

this. no point in looking at cs2 weapons if you are gonna show the old models so often

[@RaptorCleric]

@@TedNeeTedikr it’s so annoying

[@raudrauga]

I don't understand why they do this, they're basically just recreating the csgo weapons vid

[@CturiX.IREALLY]

At least use the skins to show the before and after between the models, ya

[@oliverh.zachrau2688]

This!

[@Rossen42]

I really want to see Jonathan break down the guns from The Order 1886

[@devanshgupta9860]

Take my vote. I haven't even played/seen the game much but you guys really deserve this video

[@FIVEBASKET]

Impressive work my man

[@ComissarYarrick]

@@harrybirchall3308 He's not the only one, I too would like to see Jonathan breakdown about this game. Order 1886 maybe is quite "meh" game overall , but it definietly had great artstyle.

[@TheGreatTsiom]

Gotta come by and support the lad, it's become a ritual for me every time now.

[@tapch0w597]

I see this comment on every video like this now i wonder if your dedication will ever pay off

[@CommissarTommy22]

Since spooky season is upon us it would be interesting to see Johnathan breakdown the surprisingly intricate arsenal of Cultic.

[@DrSabot-A]

It's extremely criminal that the game recorder gave him the older models with skins, even though the newer high fidelity models for CS2 itself is already available.

[@colbunkmust]

The Sig553 does exist, it was a product improved version of the 552 that comes in multiple barrel lengths like the 551. As Jonathan says, definitely not the one shown in the game though.

[@afd19850]

Yeah it’s a 556 in the game. 553 is the best version imho as you get the 553R in 7:62x39 making it truly a gucci AM.

[@apanapandottir205]

The trigger finger at 17:17 haha

[@SnazBrigade]

Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet is really good if you go into it expecting it to be horrendous. It's super funny in like that it almost writes itself as a parody, but then there are some genuinely good actors in it. I've heard honest opinions from Theater Nerds that Harold Perrineau's Mercutio is genuinely THE best depiction of the character ever committed to digital memory, if not extending into the space of live theater

[@IrregularDave]

I was forced to watch it by a lazy English teacher in high school, which no doubt adds to my distain of that movie

[@TheSchultinator]

Jonathan's camera has really improved over time

[@ralphjones3587]

Just checking in to find the one guy wanting Order 1886 guns

[@ilicktrains8304]

The fact that Jonathon was an OG 1.6 player just make this even better, seeing how far the game has come since he first played it

[@gabethelegend2007]

I’d love to see Jonathan react to the guns and experimentals in Generation Zero!

[@AWOLBones]

Yes!

[@mr.zomboss]

ohhh Generation Zero...very nice!

[@sciathoir]

Yooooo! My fiancé and I just got back into that game, it used to be pretty bad but the changes they made have definitely improved it magnitudes

[@yapalskippy1807]

Thank you Jon for defending that rendition of Romeo and Juliette.

[@mycornflakes788]

In black ops 1 you can earn an attachment that makes the cz75 full auto

[@aemaramathews272]

I would still love to see Jonathan react to the guns and similar from the Assassin's Creed series. The more I think about it, the more interesting options there are to talk about. The hidden gun, the artillery from Brotherhood, the cannons from Black Flag and Rogue, the air gun from Rogue (which has a grenade launcher attachment, I believe), the firing lines and battle missions from 3 with the musket warfare, the musket combat in 3 and Black Flag which actually uses the bayonet as well as the musket, the wheellock (?) that Cesare uses in Brotherhood, the various guns from Unity and Syndicate, the Greek Fire mission from Revelations, the grenade system from Revelations, the wrist crossbow from Unity, the crossbows from Brotherhood and Revelations, the gun-sword combination weapons in several games (Black Flag, for instance), etc. For a franchise that isn't really often thought about for its firearms and similar, there are a remarkable number of really interesting things to talk about throughout the franchise, I think.

[@GameSuxLifeSux]

It'd be cool to have a look at Cry of Fear guns There's at least 11 and they're implemented wonderfully even if the game is on the HL1 engine also show him the branch :)

[@MrSpooqy]

and the Famas

[@teddynelson2576]

GameSpot needs to get Jonathan in front of a pc and have him play with some of these guns in a a video!

[@unknownentity4189]

Gotta admit, I love Johnathan and Dave talking about CS2 weaponry and their unique style and realism. Though something I think should be pointed out is that I believe in terms of CS 1.6 it was the Steyr TMP model used rather than the MP9. Which is funny since the TMP became the MP9 when B+T bought the rights to it.

[@TheUndeadslayer221]

For M4s and their variants, whenever they get big handguards like that, it is purely for the battery (which is usually a nun-chuck battery), most of the time, as the M4 buffer tube is not the best for battery storage.

[@drunk_famasmf5135]

Wish Jonathan the best and hope this series will still bring joy to viewers and the ones, who make those videos

[@HIT14MAN2]

Johathan should do SAO Fatal Bullet and COD Advanced Warfare

[@teddynelson2576]

I’d love to see Jonathan look at Totally Accurate Battlegrounds guns

[@Crushenator500]

The part about the M4 being modeled after an airsoft gun and not the real thing was really interesting

[@dyamonde9555]

i'm with Jonathan on the Shakespeare Movie. I thought having the classic poetry lines mixed with modern visuals was a really cool move, makes the movie quite unique. and i really had to laugh when at one point a character said he'd get his Broadsword, and then he pulls out a Shotgun with "Broadsword" stenciled on it.

[@bryon5471]

I only watch game spot videos with Jonathan Ferguson, we love when he talks about guns

[@WastelandWanderer1216]

The R8 does actually hold 8 rounds of .357 Magnum or .38 Special and both rounds are interchangeable as a lot of cops that worked for Police Departments that actually issued .357s or allowed personal firearms back in the old days would practice with .38 Special and save the full bore magnums for actual patrol use. The R8 was intended mainly for SWAT Shield Carriers hence why it had both an Optics and Laser/Light Rail it's a bit easier to use a revolver with a shield since you don't have to worry about potential limp wrist induced jams.

[@bamwaldrip]

The glock 18 model being a glock 26 in cs2 drives my OCD crazy....

[@Horgler]

A lot of guns could've been given a more modern facelift to further differentiate CS2 from CSGO, but that Glock 26 monstrosity is definitely the worst.

[@Yupppi]

There was a time in CSGO where you could shoot accurate headshots from jump on Scout if you timed the apex right. For some reason the gun wouldn't suffer from inaccuracy in that context. It was a fabulous save round buy because you could really make a number with it, getting some really high value kills in a relatively cheap method and cheap cost.

[@irisheart5920]

Wasn't the AWP chambered in .338 in CS, thus the higher damage than the other bolt action rifle

[@romaliop]

Yes, it just has had the wrong name in the game for a long time, since the police model doesn't have a .338 version and isn't green either.

[@stavvik2217]

8:08 "Well it's a bit of fun." We're getting to him! He's understanding!

[@williambigbills-9665]

When he was showing how the selector switch on the CZ75 6:09 all I could think is “push it forward and down it reveals a secret setting that will become important later”

[@gabionsquared7858]

A question for Jonathan, given that it's a bit of an ongoing thing that you hate most customised or painted guns you're shown, are there any examples of decorated firearms you do appreciate? I'd love to see you talk about them here or over on the royal armouries channel

[@alyoshamikhaylov7651]

"The Engraving Gives You No Tactical Advantage Whatsoever "

[@mynameisleeyesitis]

Skins are just a terrible idea. Pros only use them for lots of money

[@gabionsquared7858]

@@alyoshamikhaylov7651 "you look good, you feel good; you feel good, you do good; you do good, you win." i dont remember who said that, but it was in an old russian badger video. i think it was heavenly?

[@d00rfiN]

The "Colt M4A1 SOCOM" looks like the M4A4, I believe this is where the inspiration came from

[@drakko26]

Small correction for the AEG issue making the AR wider than it should - it is because of the gubbins but not the electrical ones. Rather an issue with the gearbox that is required to fit in there. The actual place the electrical gubbins pose an issue for the airsoft(AEG) derived AR platform is in the pistol grip - because it needs to fit the (quite thick) motor and at a specific angle, the entire thing is kinda off.

[@codmanout9861]

7:25 "There is this disconnect between where the reticle is and where the muzzle of the model of the gun is." Yeah. I noticed that with most of these guns, and it's probably true of most FPS these days. It's not noticeable when you are shooting from range, but most video game guns won't reorient to actually aim the barrel where the reticle is at close range, like shooting a shipping crate 10 feet in front of you

[@Airforce1Gunny]

Love the MAG-7 in Black Lagoon!

[@callsigncoyote7931]

Thatd be a fun one to watch him breakdown

[@TheSuperappelflap]

The SG552 was in previous Counter Strike games, the one in CS:GO and CS2 is indeed the SG556, but it is called the SG553 for some reason. I have no clue why, and have always called it the 556 myself.

[@gabrielchcosta]

Should have used the weapons models without the skins for all the guns. The models with the skins use CS GO's weapon models and with the skins, they use the new CS2 models

[@TugaAvenger]

Don't forget the MAG-7 in Black Lagoon!

[@2003AudiS3]

Dave’s opinion on the 96 Romeo and Juliet movie is 100% correct

[@sharmuuu]

The SG number is basically transfered from older games, where there was sg552, and I guess they just added 1.

[@gergokerekes4550]

that eyeless cat stared right into his soul. good thing the Emotional Support Rocket Launch System is there to have his back.

[@CallofFreaky]

18:47 I really like in COD Cold War that as you level up the Tec-9 you can make it burst fire or automatic fire with different barrels. Not sure if the barrel would change that irl as much as an upper receiver

[@OfficialSuede]

I don't think any roast I've heard lately can compare to "...and a lovely sticker"

[@ninetenduh]

CS had weird inaccuracies over the years, in CS 1.6 they called it the AWM, but it was chambered in .338 Lapua Magnum, not .300 Winchester Magnum, given, those two are not extremely different, but I have not heard of an AWP actually being capable of firing either. Because what's in game is actually a AWSM, AWSM is the .338 Lapua Magnum variant.

[@Nate_the_Nobody]

15:48 Actually, the Steyr Scout comes in .223 as well, I know this is a SSG 08, which yes, does stop at .243, but the reason I bring any of this up is that in the original 1.6 and Source versions of CS they were using the Steyr Scout, not the SSG 08, they usually do not change weapons very much if at all in between releases, so it's very likely that whoever put in the SSG 08 model assumed it was basically the same as the Scout

[@_Twink]

The Romeo & Juliet movie with Leonardo and guns is my favorite. It's awesome.

[@cubesquared2291]

So good they did a part 2. Love this guy! Actually going to visit the museum soon too thanks to these videos.

[@NKCS7]

Pretty sure valve paid for this video considering they've already did a video on CS guns which are the same in cs2.

[@projectgg6730]

i like when dave goes off on historic rants about the weapons haha. I think it's just assumed guns in games aren't realistic but learning about their history is facinating!

[@paullittle835]

Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet is amazing, shut up Dave. (good spot on the chrome plated Mag7 as Capulet's "Broadsword" tho)

[@croom332]

The CZ-75 Auto is about 75% of the reason I bought myself a CZ-75 D when I turned 21 😂

[@vzerby]

Pushing as always for you guys to have Jonathan cover Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and to cover the M8 and MRI Caseless specifically as well. I have been posting for you to do this in every video a year back now.

[@carloshenriquezimmer7543]

How Dave reads: "... games or guns you would like to see Jonathan break down. Rigth! Over to Jonathan" How Dave SHOULD read: "... games or guns you would like, to see Jonathan break down rigth over. To Jonathan"

[@HunterDigi]

Oh man I just noticed something on the Galil, its bolt carrier goes outside the top cover at the end of reload =) use 0.25x speed to see it better @ 11:35 (Also happens when firing xD)

[@mathieuchabot8789]

The fact full-auto isn't actually full-auto bothers me. you can see the trigger finger moving at the speed of sound to compensate for all the guns being "semi-auto".

[@drowninggames]

The SG553 is a real weapon afaik its a slight modified version/upgrade to the 552

[@pyrobola8715]

3:36 They're missing the mag for the Mag-7. Now it's just a -7.

[@Shinzon23]

They had so much fun with the bizon and tormenting jonathan with it

[@mateuszt809]

I belive the name and model differences with galil for example are happening because those guns existed in previous games with diferent looks than in cs2 galil in cs go looked way different and older than cs2 galil but the name is still the same

[@BenLubar]

So, fun fact about the SG 553. In the game's code, it's called weapon_sg556. (And has been for as long as Counter-Strike has had the gun.) I'm not sure why they decided to rename it for the UI. Perhaps it's because "s g five five three" rhymes and is therefore more fun to say.

[@andreasaa2000]

SG 553 is a real gun that looks like the one in game

[@doug7948]

this wasnt quite right, you used skins which still use the old cs go models otherwise really good

[@StriderOwO]

I can put up a lot of things, but I cannot accept any slander towards the cinematic masterpiece that is William Shakespeare's Romeo + Juliet

[@hunteruk3967]

I don't know why but Jonathan has such a charm, such a cutesy personality that I watch these firearms videos and enjoy every second of it. P.S. I am not even into firearms or anything of that sort. Lol.

[@ExoPhaz]

in CS2 the CZ-75 Auto is devastating when you hit a few bullets to the head

[@Oalofa]

I hope you will verify, I belive some CS:GO and CS2 models are the same depending on the skin, probably due to geometry changes im pretty sure old skins use old csgo models and only unskinned models used the highly acurate (for a game) newer models, because i see you taking a look at the pp-bizon space cat, and the m4a4 mainframe. please take a look.

[@donghunkang7455]

I'm surprised that not only Dave nor mr. Ferguson noticed the weird finger movement. When firing automatic weapons, fingers do not squeeze the trigger like irl, they freak out instead as if they are pressing trigger for each single bullet. That's extremely noticable when using high rate of fire weapons like p90

[@digital-rain]

Glad to see you guys return to the guns of CS! Jonathans reactions to the skins are always great

[@bitterman213]

Romeo + Juliet has some of the best movie guns oat, the mag-7 plays the role of the “longsword”

[@craygroup]

It would have been cool to see his reaction to the new M4a4 model, because the one shown is the old GO one.

[@Wolf-yt5de]

Guys, Smith & Wesson TRR8, eight shot .357 revolver with rails that takes moon clips. I have one and it's great!

[@JoeJoel]

Hearing what guns he'd like to see represented would make a fun segment.

[@kala1780]

AWP used to be AWM and is .338 Lapua Magnum that is why it is more high damage in game than other rifles basially. I think that has carried over through the years.

[@keenanbartlome8153]

So the awm is probably chambered in 300 win mag while the steyr scout is chambered in .308 Also that id a s&w r8 that is a .357 with an 8 round cylinder.

[@chrisjohnson1146]

Still wanna see Jonathan take on the guns of Valkyria Chronicles. I'd love to see his reaction to an Anti-Tank Lance, as well as VC4's Mortar and various guns. I think he'd get a kick out of the Lenfield rifle.

[@ConeJellos]

I got an ad for the new Leonardo Di Caprio movie while they were talking about Romeo and Juliet.

[@TheSundayShooter]

Surprised Jonathan did not comment on that 12:09 ACOG reticle being just a green dot which balloons and disappears

[@KNURKonesur]

Surely one of those days Jonathan will react to some S.T.A.L.K.E.R guns and mods!

[@MikeStu]

ok I loved the space cat bit. ...and the Romeo & Juliet one

[@quinnzeeskimo]

I'd love to see Mr. Ferguson go through the weapons in "Black" from the PS2.

[@WayStedYou]

7:26 the reticle will be stationary, but you will certainly be hitting way above it with a CZ in game unless you are tap firing it

[@tankj0ck3y]

I'd love to see Johnathan cover some of the older cod games, particularly some of the near/far future ones, like Advanced Warfare, Ghosts, Infinite Warfare.

[@jonesso11]

in the older days of counter strike it was stated the AWP fires .338 lapua magnum instead of the more standard 7.62 nato, so I guess that's the real reason why there is a difference

[@rieskame]

Radiohead intro in Romeo and Juliet is the best!

[@incompetentotter]

Happy about the FN57 Battlestar Galactica reference. Now it just needs a grenade launcher to complete the comparison :)

[@pierrebacalhau6042]

for the m4a4, would've been nice, regarding it is cs2, to use one of the skins that have the updated cs2 model, would've liked to seen jonathan's opinion on that

[@johnsmith4224]

although counter strike isn't a tactical military simulator, they actually took a lot more attention to firearms than a lot of other games did. m4a4 is based on mk18, which has a short barrel, thus is less accurate and has more recoil than the 14.5 inch barrel model of a1, desert eagle is a sporting target shooting pistol, so it's really accurate even at ranges, the galil in the game has a 13 inch barrel, much shorter than the 16 inch on the ak, so it's less accurate.

[@alexandriabrangwin]

Purple highlights on the Bizon usually mean missing texture placeholder. And there is a Fallout 4 P90 mod where you CAN see the cartridges, follower and spring in the translucent polymer magazines.

[@Gatorade69]

That's purple checkerboards. Looks like the purple is just the skin itself.

[@LemonPoppyMuffin]

Really glad you showed more new default weapon models.

[@K-Anator]

What I need is an episode of him comparing the guns from the CS1.6, or maybe Condition Zero if you want some similar but slightly more pleasing looking models.

[@Fdotny]

DO YOU BITE THY THUMB AT US?! NO SIR, I DO NOT BITE MY THUMB AT YOU, SIR, BUT I BITE MY THUMB, SIR

[@mixtermuxter8602]

"there is this disconnect where the reticle is, and where the gun is" not even the reticle points to where the bullets land, and I bet the gun doesn't either

[@t-man369]

Hang on, isn't the fire selector backwards on the M4 at 1:27? I was waiting for Jonathan to pick up on it. Then again, maybe I'm mistaken here.