Firebird Warbird Nitrous | One of the most powerful nitrous cars!

3,410 REASONS TO GO TO WAR | WARBIRD, 1968 FIREBIRD!
Jack Greene / Daniel Ray '68 Firebird Warbird Nitrous making some power at FuelTech USA Hub Dyno! This car is one of the most powerful nitrous cars that crossed through FuelTech USA headquarters!
Whoever said nitrous couldn’t keep up with the boosted cars in the highest levels of door-slammer racing has never experienced today’s Godzilla-sized 5.300 bore space billet masterpieces. Recently Jack Greene and Daniel Ray brought their 1968 Pontiac Firebird to FuelTech for some checkout runs.
The result was nothing short of staggering with the nitrous-injected Pat Musi 959ci powerplant cranking out 3,410HP. Built by Robert Hayes, the Warbird has run in the 3.60s during Radial vs. The World competition while rolling on a set of Mickey Thompson ET Radial Pro tires.
The team relies on a FuelTech FT600 engine management system to keep steady control on the powerful Musi 959. It offers them integrated systems such as an LCD touchscreen on the face of the ECU. The display not only gives the driver critical live information but also allows the team to make tune changes without connecting to a laptop or PC computer.
The FT600, however, is far more than just a fancy and convenient screen. Like all PowerFT ECUs it features sequential injection and ignition, O2 closed loop, Data Logger, Delay Box, Boost Controller, and much more. The Pro-Nitrous control is renowned in the RvW, 275 Radial, and Pro Modified worlds, giving the user a set of tools for engine tuning as well as power control for record-setting performances.
The FT600 also includes GearControl, allowing the transmission shifting and lock-up functions to be integrated into the engine management system instead of requiring a separate control box. Spark power and control is critical on a nitrous engine, just like the big power boosted combinations and the FTSPARK-8 Capacitive Discharge Ignition (CDI) is up to the challenge.
It can provide up to 600mj of energy for the spark and 125 amps of current in the coil primary. The Warbird relies on eight CDI Racing Ignition Coils, also sourced from FuelTech, to deliver that energy to each cylinder. Data acquisition is another highly touted feature of the PowerFT line of engine management systems with accelerometer, gyroscope, and the ability connect any sensor via the CAN bus system.
The information is displayed with the engine and power management data, allowing the tuner to use only the FTManager software when analyzing the information.
It streamlines the process for easy and quick changes for the next run. The Warebird also utilizes eight FuelTech WB-O2 Nanos, which are connected to the FT600 via CAN bus and without the use of an analog input. FuelTech offers Advanced Factory Training that includes the shop, Mainline hub-dyno, and FuelTech staff to help you diagnosis and troubleshoot problems before you hit the track.
The package is available by appointment only. Incredible products to help vehicles perform better and faster combined with exceptional customer service is why you’re seeing #FuelTechEverywhere
Owner/Driver: Jack Greene & Daniel Ray
Team: BAR
Car: Warbird
Motor: 959 Musi
Body: '68 Firebird
Builder: Robert Hayes
Class: Radial Vs. The World
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[@RaspingPompano2]

The guy doing the video and interview and going through what everything is should have his own KZbin channel. This channel should have 100x the subs. He's good he talks loudly, clearly, explains everything and is a joy to listen to.

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqPFm6Orjsp9kM0

[@Ole_CornPop]

Look at those pretty hoses.... lol

[@CodyM_]

Wooo! That last pull with the wicks lit 🔥👍✌️

[@Techangler65]

Awesome to see a man excited by the sound and power of a monster engine

[@Jvcomet]

That’s the way to make a video. Great job. Nice car .

[@espenchristensen9581]

Must be 'wonderful' to work with those high end cars and people.

[@davidanderson6706]

Starting at 1670hp on motor to 3100hp on 4 stages out of 5. Woooooo.

[@grandnatty172]

That's to the wheels as well, not even crank hp. Crazy

[@ja5435]

This is my third time watching theses videos and they are even better the second time watching this.

[@bigredracer7848]

650👍's up guys thanks again for taking us all along with you for the great service

[@nearheaven5311]

Excellent video...Keep up the good work!!!

[@vizanelli]

"FuelTech, see you at the race." Liked it!

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqPFm6Orjsp9kM0

[@matheus9365]

Nice video Rashaud! Keep up with the good work, greetings from Brazil!

[@dodgejohnson5819]

DAM!!! You guys rock

[@guskuratlejr9228]

Nice Pete!

[@vitorbiten]

So clean and organized plumbing and wiring love it

[@jetenginethrust863]

Wish it was an AM Pontiac block, heads, crank & pistons but it's great to see a PONTIAC FIREBIRD still racing these days. Wish GM would bring back PONTIAC also! Thanks for sharing.

[@dingdong7986]

i mean if he wanted a slow car he could but NA nitrous motors need to be big CI to make up for the loss of a power adder

[@topseykretts251]

You're looking at one of the top nitrous motors of this era and he saying" look at those nice hoses"lol

[@timtourt7548]

My duece n a quarta aint nver looked that beautiful!!!!haha,the larger words will make his low capacity brain overload

[@micahbuchheit1283]

I said the same thing.

[@josephbutler3577]

Take the nitrous off and it will not get out of it's own way

[@stefandwoodham]

Chill.....he just likes big black hoses

[@michaelreilly8057]

@@josephbutler3577 i guarantee turbo cars are slower without their turbos then nitrous cars with no nitrous

[@shawngifford4884]

Holy crap and lizzy runs 6 kits on hers what a monster

[@regsmith7604]

You guys be having fun making horsepower👍🏽👍🏽

[@benjimandover8072]

Them candles was light up good...

[@jeremyraines279]

Great video

[@Suiza8]

OMG... Bah! Que loucura, Mr. Floyd!

[@davesracingchannel9261]

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[@Charlesbjtown]

When you are used to seeing turbo cars at this level, it makes this car seem very underpowered. The sound is much cleaner as well.

[@exploranator]

A lack of collector headers is costing them power. You can't beat the scavenging effect of a collector header. Fuel cars do not use it as they are still burning fuel as it exits the exhaust port, I assume. Also, considering that it's a ground-up creation, they could have prioritized the zoomie tubes over the tube chassis and eliminated the double dogleg kinks in some of the zoomie tubes, which is doing nothing to help power or consistency between cylinders.

[@davelowets]

@@exploranator There's NOTHING wrong with Zoomies at this level of an engine. This thing doesn't NEED the scavenging from a header collector. A 4-into-1 header setup with a collector, would simply hurt power on this engine. Also, those slight bends arent hurting anything either... They headers are swept up, and designed like that for a reason... The exhaust pressure puts downforce on the front of the car, to help keep it down and not end up on it's back bumper. It wouldn't do them a whole lot of good having them come straight out the side of the fender, or pointed DOWN and lifting the front of the car. If the headers came up OVER the chassis, they'd have MORE radical bends in them to end up getting them pointed in the right direction.

[@brunostefansalgado]

Very Nice!

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqPFm6Orjsp9kM0

[@slowpoke96Z28]

3:58, allows the chassis to act as a reaction arm for more accurate numbers.

[@volkstroke]

I like this guy

[@JamesJones-fv6kc]

Looking forward to installing a system

[@ja5435]

A huge reason why a lot of racers switch from nitrous setups is because nitrous engine’s are so freaking hard on parts

[@oliverscorsim]

Car was awesome 😍. That 4kit run was tremendous I wonder what 5 would do and I gotta ask what fuel? Any issues icing?

[@richtomeyer3081]

I know now for sure that’s it’s the steering wheel that does it everytime.

[@Ricks408]

Did he say Musi 959?! Ooof 😲

[@davesracingchannel9261]

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[@v0hero691]

tip for your comentary: Beautiful is your go to. Find some other synonyms. I enjoy your style! keep it up!

[@sethhughes2163]

In RVW... it is faster than that by a longshot! Respectfully, Seth

[@mattyblanchard5905]

Luis I dont own a car at the present time ...is there a way I can learn how FT WORKS ON A CAR like a training session???

[@stephenalexander2427]

4 kits .. how much per kit ? How fast do they come in ? Thanks !

[@derrickdugan9351]

he is very fast for sure. I have 2 mustang saleen s outlaw car s 1 is a small blown nitrous motor the other is a big block car that is for 2021 no prep kings all steel. Tube chassis street ready to 🤟 professionally built everything they are pretty cool one s.

[@woodgrain18]

Who built your chassis

[@derrickdugan9351]

@@woodgrain18 they will be ran across the block at barrett Jackson and all of the information will be turned over to the next owner it's all kept secret I'm very sorry I will have videos up aswell soon 🤟

[@stefandwoodham]

So that's what kind of dyno experience I can expect if I bring my 97 chevy 2500 5.7?!

[@Toroazul54]

I can't believe he let us see the house numbers

[@ja5435]

The crazy thing is that Murder Nova’s OG murder nova witch is the old murder nova made over 3,200+HP AND HIS NEW MURDER NOVA MADE A LITTLE OVER 3,600HP.

[@matthewvarnam4302]

Yeah I seen the videos it's awesome. I like the new murder nova with the small block

[@savagele]

FuelTech has had 4500+hp cars on their hub dyno.

[@MrCarnutbill67]

10mmJHP That turbo Vette made over 5,000

[@jaymartin4418]

3500 nitrous motor will kill a 5000 hp turbo motor different power curves and the nitrous motor has power instant and turbo have to build the power

[@matthewvarnam4302]

@@jaymartin4418 in the real world nitrous cars would win on paper turbo would win...lol

[@Toroazul54]

Kye kelley, use to drive this car

[@leenderonde8723]

How does it work with the multiple kits? 1 kit sprays a little the second sprays a bit more. Or is it something else? I have no idea to be honest😅

[@abhirmalhotra5103]

You're in the right ball park.

[@exploranator]

One set of nozzles does one chore. Next set of nozzles covers the next chore. It results in a lot of nozzle, doesn't it?

[@jonathanparker5375]

My God! Real powa. FOUR KITS!!!!!!? Jesus help us.

[@bigharrykochenbauls4567]

guys, nitrous guys

[@2011trdyota]

Lets see Jacob on the camera! Lmao

[@exploranator]

I begin to be more and more impressed with FuelTech. I have watched and researched the various fuel systems makers for years, and FuelTech seems to be really going for a full-on invasion. Motec, Holley, and Haltech have far, far too few data points available to really tailor the fuel injected precisely to the demands of the engine on a per-RPM basis. Hopefully Fuel Tech can have enough computer brainpower to make truly ultra-specific maps for all the points between 100 RPM increments, unlike e'rybody else. Have you ever seen, for example, the power curve of a modern F1 engine? They vary WIDELY in output in only a few RPM, and that output is not just needing to be painted with a broad brush of "I guess that's enough fuel, 'cuz 'tain't deternatin" The output of an F1 engine progresses in such an unsteady manner on a per-RPM basis that the teams are allowed to use throttle position programming to use the throttle blades to smooth out the resultant power curve, even though actual throttle-or-brakes-based traction control is banned in F1. Widely generalizing fuel delivery "cuz you's at 3000 to 3100 RPM and you shoul'n't need much differn't" is divergent from the reality of the power production of actual engines. My fervent hope is that FuelTech continues to take the other brands to school and offers a FAR finer scheme of data mapping and resultant fuel injection than is currently being offered by the other brands, whose seats seem to be made entirely of past laurel wreaths, upon which they rest, instead of being hungry to improve. They have not improved by the leaps and bounds that one would expect from established-brands engine management systems. There is not greater granularity in their fuel maps, just more gewgaws tacked onto their system so you can have the rear window wiper come on at 7000 RPM and full throttle or whatever. The fact is, at any given RPM, there are going to be more that 1-5 different levels of fuel delivery needed, due to changing vacuum or pressure. The change in airflow mass to the cylinder is FAR FAR more varied than "choose between these three levels." Example: at 5500 RPM, engine vacuum/PSI can change from near-vacuum to around, for example, 14.7 PSI. How many steps are there between those two extremes? Several thousand? Several hundred? Several dozen? Not with Motec, Haltech, and Holley. They just throw buckets of fuel at it hope it has enough to not detonate. But, established marques, there is far more to fuel delivery than "lack of detonation." If FuelTech pays attention to this and really goes after finely tuning the exact amount of fuel to the exact amount of air, you will start seeing their dyno sheets look choppy and rough in the "power curve" because that is how real engines in the real world actually operate. A power curve that changes in magnitude as smooth as a waterslide is not indicative of how engines really produce power. Do it, FuelTech. Show the world how proper data mapping and resultant fuel delivery is done.

[@connercraig1274]

what’s the shot at 6 kits???

[@jameseastwood4984]

At what point does it become simpler not to have a throttle or air intake and just fill the cylinders with 100% nitrous and fuel. Then control the power completely on the nitrous/fuel discharge?

[@dj13yrs1]

That would be unethical when the bottles get to much pressure the solenoids will not open plus if you get trash in them they will stick open and pwm'ing the noids beats them up pretty well and cause them to no seal all the way after awhile and if one jet gets trash in it it will not only be down a hole on spray but down all together. Plus how ever much vacuum it that hole will suck.

[@mantis8085]

I wonder if this layout is clean or beautiful

[@exploranator]

Well you came to the right channel for someone to inform you thereof!

[@chezleymcdonald2481]

I was hoping for a pull with all of the kits

[@mikaelgaiason688]

Probably exceeds the dyno limit. High horsepower drag cars can only be fully tuned at the track

[@matheus9365]

@@mikaelgaiason688 I don't think so. That dyno can hold up to 5000 hp.

[@brandonsikes9166]

Mikael Gaiason the dyno has seen over 5000 hp

[@mikaelgaiason688]

@@matheus9365 Fair enough, thanks for the heads up.

[@mikaelgaiason688]

@@brandonsikes9166 So I heard. If you could read my post you could read Matheus. Day late and a dollar short

[@jonathanparker5375]

Holy smokes. This is on another level of overkill. A 959? You have to please excuse my ignorance but is that cubic inches? If so my God!

[@trevorwiersma1950]

Yep, what an absolute monster eh

[@seanmayo206]

Is there only musi motors available for nitrous?

[@dusty0924]

No but he is arguably one of the best at it.

[@dusty0924]

@dragracing news like I said arguably.............

[@danmyers9372]

No, he just gets all the press, especially because of his daughter Lizzy. There are MANY other top level nitrous engines builders.

[@captlucky2320]

Hope the mech tech Vette vid is as good and long

[@davesracingchannel9261]

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[@curvs4me]

Where's the 5th kit?

[@gristlepounder]

I would run one kit per cylinder.

[@artbennett7321]

Around 6:07 looks like nitrous plumbing leaks at the intake manifold.....

[@kentbeitel9966]

Did he say 959 as in how many cubic inches it has?.. 🤯🥵

[@user-tz4lr8xe4d]

Yes, it's the biggest that Musi makes. And if that's crazy for you, there's an even crazier one. The Sonny Racing 1,005 CI, yes 1,005, not even a typo.

[@shanelaflora5394]

What's the first music ?

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqPFm6Orjsp9kM0

[@sammygonzalez7627]

5 Kit's will put it at around 3,300hp

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqPFm6Orjsp9kM0

[@derrickdugan9351]

That's a baby nitrous motor a nice one but no even close hehehe

[@dj13yrs1]

What do you have? Isnt kye spraying 6 kits?

[@zunetrav4]

Carbon brakes? Don't they need a lot of heat to work well?

[@slowpoke96Z28]

Travis Collins Yes. a lot of heat is what you get at 200+ though. Promods have had chute failures with carbon fiber brakes and still made the turn off. Rolling from the pits to the staging lanes though when they are cold yea, you want a few extra feet on the tow strap lol.

[@phillipbassett3196]

Everyone fast enough runs carbon now.

[@mattyblanchard5905]

I want to become a tuner

[@davidmcnerney3048]

2 more kits lit i wjnder what the hp would be

[@RustyWells2]

Over 3,800

[@matthewvarnam4302]

He only ran 4 kits the man said he had 5 kits on the car

[@billclark5943]

I'd be more interested to see the torque from that torque monster

[@zcookie9272]

Run 6 kits next time 3500hp

[@RustyWells2]

He could have got about there with the 5 kit if he had a 6 kit it would have been over 3,800.

[@jpoplin1]

6:00

[@mariogiovannimarianideange490]

Este carro es mas violento que el de ryan Martín con nitro

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqPFm6Orjsp9kM0

[@jamestemple5696]

I love how they shut the engines off straight away after pulling a run? Nothing like fueling the bores up to max and shutting her straight off 🙄

[@deeaikens9843]

I’m sure those numbers are sandbag I know a few 900ci cants that make 23-2500 hp all motor

[@billyanderson6457]

Narrator dosen't know what a spark plug is...look at those nice hoses??? ..

[@yxng_metro]

Is it bad to make mistakes? People aren’t perfect.

[@carlosdanielaularherrera5735]

#FuelTech Vs 405 oklahoma city

[@r.dfordtech5996]

68 firebird ? Looks like a promod

[@traviselmoreguitars5662]

Fuel tech always sand bagging in the videos. The driver said they have 5 kits but the most they lit off was 4 in the video. So you would think its making more like 3400+ hp. Plus most 959's have six kits at least. Let's see the real hp numbers a musi 959 makes. Just saying.

[@RustyWells2]

Close to 4,000 if you put them on kill.

[@matthewvarnam4302]

@@RustyWells2 yeah that's a lot of power for a nitrous engine

[@slowpoke96Z28]

Drag racing is all about poker faces...why motivate the competition to push for more power.

[@tetracontrol]

That's not the purpose of taking the car to a dyno. They don't want to test to destruction just to show the world how much power the car make, Honda guys make this things, not the pros.

[@traviselmoreguitars5662]

@@tetracontrol true but they are real quick to show a turbo car make 5k hp but they never show the max hp of nitrous cars or pro charger cars. Just saying.

[@zz2nkt]

Driver cant see wb o2 numbers

[@kickn5k]

It would be shown on the dash I'd imagine.

[@danmyers9372]

Comparison of a turbo car on the same dyno. And this car now runs on a 275 radial. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH2cZWiCnbmEbNk

[@ja5435]

That’s the Easiest way to spend a half of a million dollars

[@waden404]

Stupid money. Must b nice to be the driver, but not have to spend a dime

[@kelebogilemalela9048]

4 kits of Nitrous 😬

[@billyanderson6457]

nice video ...get a new narrator ...beautiful

[@slowpoke96Z28]

I’ve seen people hitting gears on a dyno before, but this whole video was a little odd. Fuel tech needs to take all their employees to a national event with som AA fuel cars and to a Thursday/Friday night open track day so they have perspective. Maybe a weekend “interning” with a top tier team using fuel tech products.

[@tedgerstenslager2949]

Apples and oranges. They are tuning normal drag type cars, not fuel handgrenades.

[@slowpoke96Z28]

Ted Gerstenslager not apples and oranges. More green apples and red apples. That why I said they need to experience the full range. Geo metros on street nights to national event top fuel cars. Standing mile cars. Salt flat cars. Carbed and mechanically injected cars. Their employees can’t really appreciate the power of their product without experiencing different situations. They have no reference if they’ve only happened to be in the back a few times when a car was being dyno’d.

[@Allnurbusiness]

Steve Erkel. Lol

[@smjhobbies4527]

The driver said the car had five different kits for nitrous why didn't they do a Dyno call p u l l using all five

[@captainspaulding2693]

But do it fo thowsun doh?

[@mikeeagle2653]

It went from 2100 to 2700 that’s 600 hp gain not 300 like he said

[@deeremeyer1749]

That front "tiedown" is so super "safer", lol. Looks like 3/8" reddi-thred "set" in the concrete. Probably "bonded" in with epoxy. Equally funny is the "RWHP" numbers minus the "RW". Removing the "mass" of the wheels and tires - easily 1/3 if not more of the powertrain mass and "powertrain loss" not to mention the major source of slippage "loss" not to mention "lost" mechanical advantage of the tires over the "rollers" as the tires "grow" and the gear ratio is effectively made "higher" - can and will easily "add" horsepower "gains" proportional to the mass "loss" before the "gains" from reduced powertrain "slip" and tire growth losses are realized. The "bottle babies" and the "noss" system aka "kit" manufacturers and retailers and "tuners" they "support" and vice versa are desperately trying to sell "noss" as the "cheaper" and "easier" and "quicker" so-called "power adder" and a supposed "alternative" to "forced induction" aka "boost" and are trying every "trick" possible to do so using "dyno numbers" that mean jack squat regardless of the power adder installed if and when "RWHP" is the "metric" used for "comparison".

[@peteypops]

Dump the face views.

[@deeremeyer1749]

"This steering wheel is exceptionally light". Which is important since you may save 2 pounds over the "heavy" wheel in a real race car with 198 fewer pounds in "clean layout" wiring and electronics and that doesn't need/have 959 cubes and 5 "kits" to "compete" with cars with less than half the cubes and zero "kits".

[@dezza718]

i thought sonny leonard engines were better

[@danmyers9372]

Or Fulton or Buck or…

[@oliverscorsim]

So I'm at 4:23 and I'm thinking to myself this guy really shouldn't be speaking for fueltech.. he said things that were considering like not knowing it's a main line Dyno. Grade 8bolts eh not great at shearing loads I'd feel safer with grade 12.9 and even then I'd feel best if theres splines or a key taper something. Really he could just have not said anything and that would've gone unnoticed. All I'm saying is I like fueltech and i would like to see either some thought into the promotional vid or just show me what we came to see horsepower

[@davesracingchannel9261]

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[@oliverscorsim]

@@frenchonion4595 with vibration I wouldn't trust that and a pin would do the job easy with none of these concerns

[@iamtrumputin6017]

2000 hp??? That's IT? Turbo engines get over 3,000

[@vipirata1]

You see all video?

[@user-tz4lr8xe4d]

It's an oxidizer, not a forced induction, it does not force any air inside, it just oxidize. That's why they're not measured in PSI. Something like 6 kits of nitrous is like equivalent to maybe 35 PSI, that why the rules allow them up to 900+CI. A 959 CI motor with a blower or twin turbo would be overkill. Also, NHRA limits the turbo size. I remember seeing that one Pro Mod car on the dyno making 6,144 HP on Hub Dyno. It has 670 CI with twin turbos I think 98mm's.

[@lluciferl9276]

Talks to much annoyingly

[@thenameforcorey2261]

Yea this guy didn't last long lmao

[@blakefitzsimons3292]

Crap. That's what my car makes before I get on the nitrous

[@stuffthings3334]

Stop saying beautiful

[@turboman351w3]

dude the commentator is horible

[@vbcanman88]

Steve urkle is painful to listen to , has no idea what he is looking at

[@patriqcnewman275]

My Honda got more power

[@billboeck4644]

To the guy talking nobody give`s a shit about the front strap Focus on more interesting stuff or find someone else to do the commentary.

[@billboeck4644]

Lose the black guy he has no Idea what he`s talking about.. for your own good