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[@PancakeBreakfast]

Prydwen's Tier List: www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/tier-list/

[@CammoX2]

at 2:51 you mention Firefly's E2 fowarding her leading to her potentially being sp hungry but i just wanted to say if you have her E2 then you would have her E1 making her skill no longer consume SP.

[@Captainfluffy25]

E2 firefly has gotta be the strongest E2 character in the game. That’s just so broken lol

[@onesparkle1018]

I was about to comment that too. Firefly’s E1 and E2 are so good together

[@izumolee6714]

@@Captainfluffy25 In all honesty her E1 & E2 should've been her last eidolons not what she has currently with the effect res e4 & slight dmg buff e6.

[@4..x]

@@izumolee6714why tho? is it bcz her first 2 eidolons are too strong than the other? they would literally make more money

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

​@@4..x this, I was literally saying with BH that making stronger eidolons be earlier they would make more money, guess I was right since they did it with FF

[@hafidzmursyidi4429]

RM honestly should be at Tier 0 when Boothill came out. She is the BEST harmony than can be work on every team

[@Yoru...]

If ruan mei is t0 then so should robin Rm better in break Robin better in fua Other teams they are equal That should be the logic

[@mudkipfan_258]

@@Yoru...You’re forgetting that this is based on the current MoC, which favors break teams over Fua. Both RM and Robin perform equally well on their respective teams, but Break teams literally destroy the current MoC, which is why they put Robin at T0.5

[@senioralexander6681]

@@Yoru...wait till Jade and yunli come out she will go to T0 too

[@Yoru...]

@@mudkipfan_258 i mean if it's based on current moc then dhil should've moved down when aventurine moc happened

[@tokyo-sz4zd]

@@Yoru... See that's the thing. Ruan Mei can still work well in FuA teams, which are Robin's best teams. But can Robin work well the same way Ruan Mei does for break comps? Sure, it's somewhat usable, but not to a great extent. You can comfortably use Ruan Mei in FuA comps without needing to pull Robin. Meanwhile playing Robin in break comps feels cope.

[@theteamxxx3142]

Team 1 acheron Team 2 FF gg

[@ABC-yj6cy]

Yep, as a F2P it's my best investment so far. E2S1 acheron and FF. I already got E1S1 RM during her first banner

[@buttaontoast]

@@ABC-yj6cyhow are you f2p 😭

[@NekrosWorld]

⁠@@buttaontoastbut skipping banners or being lucky I got Ryan mei e2 s1 I was lucky dint lost 50 50 and same with Acheron e2 e1 as f2p I always skip banners

[@buttaontoast]

@@NekrosWorld DAYUNG HOW ARE YALL SO RICH

[@dilucragnvindr130]

Then the Devs on the next patch: New Enemies *toughness bar can't be reduced*

[@misusatriyo]

i think firefly is considered SP unfirendly because she is so damn fast.

[@birdbro6776]

It's totally dependent on if you have E1 or not.

[@izu1624]

​@@birdbro6776 ye with E1 the sp bit could be thrown out the window

[@izumolee6714]

I can understand why Tingyun isn't higher cause both of the meta dps units Acheron & Firefly don't really need her energy buff. Acheron doesn't care for it & Firefly regens energy on her own so she doesn't need it as well.

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

Atm Acheron’s team doesn’t do much damage it’s just her. FF’s team does more damage. But if you can land 2 enhanced SBE’s you’ll do damage comparable to Acheron’s ult. That’s why FF’s team is stronger.

[@thehomie3676]

This is wrong because firefly herself cannot do damage without the enemy already being broken so if the enemy is not broken at that select time then her damage will be bad

[@jefferygrandor7852]

@@thehomie3676are you a moron? The idea that firefly has to break an enemy to do damage is so stupid, Acheron has to apply debuffs to any enemy to do damage, see how that’s stupid now?

[@TheBoiFrosty]

​@@thehomie3676That weakness implant + gallagher makes breaking pics easy and similar could be said about acheron because when she doesn't have her ult she ain't doing anything

[@kurotsuki12]

And FF has a fck ton of speed, so she has a lot of actions, acheron may have her team dmg up on the next patch tho.

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

@@kurotsuki12 perhaps. The pf private server relics are probably impossible for 99% of players though. Not to mention the PF buffs. I’d expect JQ to do much less damage for most players.

[@VeraExora]

While Tingyun isn't getting powercrept directly, she's being phased out. She's mostly a fill-in for other characters at this point. None of the best teams prioritise her. As for Ruan Mei nor being in T0 until this point, it's because her niche was still being filled. She was basically sitting in the same situation as Tingyun for a while, where she was just a really good general support. Now that her niche has been sufficiently established, she's pretty much unstoppable. Edit: Tingyun wasn't always better than Bronya. Bronya got Powercrept by Sparkle, and Tingyun hasn't been powercrept

[@idk-dg9zr]

Imo if firefly is t0 then harmony tb should too, she basically doesn't deal damage without them.

[@UltimatePollo3495]

U don't know the definition of t0 do u not about break teams its about how verstile u can be aswell like ruin mai who also benefits teams like dot outside of break teams

[@300y1]

People getting mad at tier lists - especially in the gacha genre where P2W and powercreep is super common is so weird. Having info on pull-priority is actually GREAT for people wanting the most value out of their limited currency. Wild that people cry about tierlists.

[@HonestToCritic]

I can tell you right now, Firefly is performing WAY better than my Acheron. And it's mostly due to her not needing her Sig light cone. My Firefly isn't even built nearly as well too, but Acheron feels limited without her Sig LC. Which I'm saving a guarantee now, and waiting on her rerun... 🤷

[@UltimatePollo3495]

Well ur just stupid if u didn't prepare for acheron and her lc

[@JJ-mn3nd]

Dude, do people really still think Acheron needs her sig?

[@HonestToCritic]

@@JJ-mn3nd No, they think her alternative light cones suck by far in comparison... 🤷

[@birdbro6776]

@JJ-mn3nd It's not that she needs her signature to be good. Her signature just takes her to another level, whereas Firefly get to that same level without signature.

[@themitchell1188]

If you have E2 then you have E1 which fixes her SP issue.

[@Ogacidjj]

HSR is peak rn man so many good characters they gave me ruan mei off a single too 😍😍

[@valeriacristinadeoliveira6787]

Where can i see the future characters?

[@tybattle123]

Got firefly e2 ,my acheron e6 and now i wait for e6 seele . 🦋🙏

[@XiasGaming]

Best FF team made more damage than best Acheron team. Both in E0S0.

[@victorgrado]

great video!!

[@Noaxid]

Got firefly today . And roll over everything . New mode was easy mode , and i didn't have her build .. ( it's a really good break set got with all my run of weakly boss xD) have around 600 % break in battle with all my team buff for now and she kick ass for sure ! Also got my gala to e6 with all those dupe :3

[@k-BlazeWuthringwaves30]

You Shouldn't sleep at pela 😂 she is best character for F2P who doesn't want RM and only wants firefly . pela and firefly , Harmony mc ,Gallager works Insane no RM needed actually 😂

[@aarnavghosh2260]

Bro compared to an year ago your voice has so much more confidence im really impressed by your growth keep up at it brother ❤

[@PancakeBreakfast]

To be honest it's just a different mic xD But I greatly appreciate that 🙏 You're one of the OGs

[@aarnavghosh2260]

@@PancakeBreakfast hey man I gotchu I will keep popping in and out every now and then to check up on my boy have a good one bro should I join your discord so that we keep in touch?

[@PancakeBreakfast]

@@aarnavghosh2260 sure lemme send a link discord.gg/2bmxxruu - it's kind of a secret Discord lol. I don't really give out the links much

[@aarnavghosh2260]

@@PancakeBreakfast aight bro my name is Dervin in it

[@deejnutz2068]

Ghallager not being at T0 for this patch is criminal.

[@UltimatePollo3495]

Nah I think 0.5 is justified and I think they only want one person on t0 but for pure fiction he should be t0

[@the_man861]

once i build my FF she'll be eating good E0S1 Rm and HMC with past self

[@user-es7kg2lv2c]

Fire Fly wants to say Hi from Chris COY Fire Fly came home early this morning with 10 gold tickets at 5:27 am I woke up with Fire Fly. This was very special celebration and pull for me good luck everyone.

[@raymondchung3815]

Sadly I messed up farming well I gotta farm for a long while until the perfect stats

[@Trailblazer_chromatica]

Damnn gallagher taking over luocha poor otto

[@UltimatePollo3495]

Lol gallagher what a come back before he was t4 when he first came out and now one of the best

[@XiasGaming]

The other funny Gallagher in him best team made more damage than Aventurine xd

[@UltimatePollo3495]

@XiasGaming people were calling adventurine the dps of the sustain lol

[@Marto-kh6sm]

​@@UltimatePollo3495 Gallagher in this team ends up doing comparable damage to conventional DPS lmao

[@UltimatePollo3495]

@@Marto-kh6sm he probably does as much dmg as dps in t2 and below

[@Robinspecialhusband]

I saw people complain "OH FIREFLY USE TOO MANY SP" then pulled for her e1 or go for e2. More advantage

[@UltimatePollo3495]

Skill issue for those people u make ur gallagher fast on multiplication and he can get soo much sp for the team

[@Robinspecialhusband]

@@UltimatePollo3495 true they probably didn't know that and just complain a lot

[@chrisryan1501]

Just got ruan mei and her sig within 2 pulls 👁️ 👄 👁️ Should i go for ruan mei e1 or firefly e0? My current favorite char is e0s1 boothill but is e0s0 firefly worth pulling?

[@Harkz0r]

I mean it depends. She is very strong, but one of E0 FF's biggest issues is her SP consumption since her ult not only advances her forward but increases her speed, and she wants to spam skills. Gallagher is a good SP generator but FF by far performs best with RM and Harmony TB so she has many of the best teammates as Boothill, except Boothill wants Bronya. So it depends if you have a team in mind for her. She is good with Aeon LC, but E1 RM is a guaranteed upgrade for any team that uses her. Go for FF if you are planning to use her and RM if not is my take on it.

[@ixirion]

specialist tier for Firefly or boothill is stupid. it doesnt matter how they do their dps. they are still dps. HMC is a specialist cos he opens new types of play and is a core break unit, same with Kafka.

[@Harkz0r]

I mean it does kinda matter since against those trotters that auto-lock their toughness bar or Gepard who puts up a huge ass teamwide shield then FF becomes useless. It is a super niche scenario and they chew through 95% of content but crit DPS remain the only 'universal' method of damage in those cases. (Probably DoT too but enemies could always raise effect RES)

[@ixirion]

@@Harkz0r crit builds are most universal but we have enemies that take no dmg unless their toughness bar is reduced. you circumvent this by adding units that break toughness well. Its the same with break. Boothill/firfly dont care about enemy elements and destroy enemy toughness bars. if we use prydwen logic we can say that acheron is niche cos she works on deebuffed enemies. what if we have enemies that cant be debuffed..

[@bradrizzo3950]

The worst part about this patch is I may potentially have 4 characters to build. I have been waiting to E6 Xueyi as she's e5, I probably will get my Gallagher to e2 making him build worthy pulling for firefly, and depending on how firefly goes RM is in the cards... Then made for PF later. FML lol

[@CTY547]

Good thing that Break characters are really easy to build

[@ecovrse]

i actually agree with this tier list mostly, i’d move huohuo above gallagher and move xueyi up one slot as i personally think she’s slightly higher than sampo & luca thanks to the rainbow toughness break on ult and follow up at e2 (ff lightcone is such a nice upgrade for her especially now that she’s a free unit and has been on 2 recent banners)

[@ecovrse]

idk don’t get me wrong gallagher being good in meta teams he definitely deserves to be in 0.5 but i don’t think people realise just how valuable giving energy to teammates is (loved the tingyun rant lol)

[@crash5758]

This is the first time I 100% agree with the rankings

[@lonely_sandwhich]

Idk if I'm just trash or if I built my Jingliu wrong, but I cleared Floor 12 (Yes, 3 stars.) with Seele (mono quantum), rather than using Jingliu. For the record, I use Jingliu in a mono quantum team where she's the DPS and not Seele. I have a feeling it's because Jing and Fu Xuan don't go together? Because I'd end up being too slow, or I'd die. But, basically, Seele cleared and Jingliue didn't. Can y'all suggest some Jingliu teams for me?? I can't use HuoHuo (my only other 5 star healer), and I can't use Ruan Mei (she's in my Firefly team), cuz I don't know why her dmg output is so low. (PS. Her crit ratio is 50/200, and she does have her S1.)

[@NoorkaSafar]

The team I usually go for jingliu is jingliu e0 s0 /bronya e1 s1/tingyun/aventurine U can also go this team but u really have to be wise enough to knows when to use sps as u can end up without aventurines shield as ur jingliu will take many turns in 1 cycle. Another team I recommend as an f2p is Jingliu/Pela/tingyun/sustain.

[@ectoBiologist21]

RM should have never left the top tier, lot of people need to move out of that copium 0.5 tier too.

[@senioralexander6681]

She is T0 only this MoC next MoC when FuA will be buffed and Jade/yunli come out Robin will go T0

[@quockhanh5740]

@@senioralexander6681you are saying as if jade and yunli were any good lol

[@senioralexander6681]

@@quockhanh5740 jade is close to jingliu and Dan heng. And yunli from what we see rn is third best dps after Acheron and firefly. (Rn she is better than boothill)

[@quockhanh5740]

@@senioralexander6681 tf are you onto??? Jade is only good in pf and not anywhere else. Yunli is simply clara 2.0 and a crit dps so she can’t outperform boothill at all. where are you pulling these out of???

[@senioralexander6681]

@@quockhanh5740 jade is good enough in MoC too lol, there are few teams with her in MoC and she does around 80-130k damage from what I saw. Idk what you have against crit dps being better than boothill when Acheron literally is crit but ok. Even if yunli is counterattack based even her skill does huge damage (she gets 100% cd) while her ult counterattacks are doing 500k damage and from what I understood sometimes she launches them without being hit.

[@UltimatePollo3495]

Bro gallagher got bumped as because he work with acheron and ratio aswell as a debuffer

[@WiiSage]

he also works with firefly

[@UltimatePollo3495]

@WiiSage ik but he was just saying gallagher was there because hiw he worked with break teams I am also putting out he up there as he don't only synergies with break teams

[@theashianz3562]

As good as Tingyun is but your take is wrong!!! Tingyun fell off because she is not a type of support who will in an Acheron team or Firefly team nor in a boothill team! So you know now the reason lol.. How can you say she is on top while she is not the priority support to these Top dps ingame?

[@JJ-mn3nd]

Surprised he didn’t talk about fu xuan

[@JJ-mn3nd]

@JJ-mn3nd O only other nihility character I have is guinifen and I heard sparkle can buff enough to be as good as 2 nihility

[@victorgrado]

suscribed

[@JJ-mn3nd]

I’m the first person to say I regret pulling ruan mei, my Dps characters are DHIL and Acheron which do a lot more damage with my sparkle than with ruan mei I was hoping to get firefly as well but I got ruan mei on my last pull and I’ve realized I probably won’t get her, I also need Jiaoqiu for my Acheron next patch

[@nono-lq5uy]

Do u use dhil sparkle tingyun . Try to use Ruan mei instead of tingyun. Then tell me the cycles not the dmg . I want to know can u do it. Need to know who buffs better in this case

[@nono-lq5uy]

Just use her with hmc and add Anyother character it is very fun team

[@JJ-mn3nd]

@nono-lq5uy it was the same cycles, they both took 2 cycle because I tested it on floor 9 since I haven’t done moc yet

[@mirage6335]

Firefly itself has own Superbreak. Thats why she is specjalist. Or should I say it is advance break. And what is that mean?which means you dont need to pair with Harmony MC. But if you have Boothill then sure you have too. Because Harmony MC is like a booster for each other DPS to not be so much powercreep and stay as playable characters. Advance breaker also no need to invest for crit because his Dmg took from breakeffect +atk%. So.. whats the catch of character? Mechanic similar to IL . So wait for 2-3 patches and she will be powercreep by next dps.

[@nono-lq5uy]

Not true her own superbreak dmg is very low hmc is still glued to her.. he literally makes her do 300% more damage . You can check prydwen calculations of her with and without hmc . Her dmg falls of the cliff without hmc

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

Community: no way they can creep acorn HSR: What if acorn aoe dmg but double turns like seele

[@legendredux1291]

e2 firefly does not use any sp

[@soulfulhuman8724]

Here are my pull summary Was at 44 pity , got ruan mei at 80 pulls (won 50/50) Then i did 3 10 pulls and got welt Then i did 2 10 pulls and bang firefly. Then did 3 10 pulls and managed to get 2 memories of the past LC. All this in 140 pulls. I am very happy ×× I am very blessed ✓✓ Thanks all the people who wished us in every FF comment. Guys u too have good luck

[@O-R-I-G-I-N]

fu xuan on the same tier as gallagher is crazzyyyy, he deserves 0.5 but fu xuan doesnt tbh

[@UltimatePollo3495]

Well I actually think it's because they want one character in t0 but to counter this move luocha down to t2 there is no one their and just let gallagher be on his own in t1

[@JJ-mn3nd]

The thing is, they want only one character in t0 and aventurine is the character they want

[@franklinmoore4152]

The should bump luka up a tier he's actually good on superbreak teams and the new gane mode

[@dante19890]

Sushang is better for superbreak

[@Aenahea]

Her e1 fixes all her issues. e2 is just a plus

[@Igloomain]

I managed to get E0 Firefly and her lightcone so I am happy. Skipping Acheron was tough but it's nice to have an alternative T0 DPS

[@dplayer2693]

My luck popped off day 1, got ruan mei and firefly, trying for the LC, bc I want to and can, but I was running the new divergent universe mode and got her to hit 8.1million dmg on the three weird puppet guys. Kinda crazy.

[@XiasGaming]

Who don't know play Gallagher skill issue.

[@kronkdonkus7288]

Just got firefly 3rd 50/50 in a row

[@dante19890]

You are in for a losing streak soon

[@glitchparallax4215]

E1 will delete the SP issue, broken E1

[@Opprite]

I pray for the day Gallagher power creep comes 😭🙏

[@3.16music]

2.5

[@Opprite]

@@3.16music oh Ik 👀

[@anthiknee5118]

Firefly won’t burn skill points at E2 cuz E1 makes her enhanced skill cost no sp

[@PancakeBreakfast]

true as long as she is in her burst phase

[@XiasGaming]

Naa in E0S0 with good speed in supports she will not have problems in SP.

[@SignOne]

Whys hmc not in t0? Ff goes to tier trash without em

[@UltimatePollo3495]

It's not just about break the harmony has to be verstile as well

[@B4nana888]

FFs could never be tier trash cus the mc is completely free. Firefly is Aight without mc but why won’t you use a BIS free unit

[@theorangecandle]

Cant put someone in T0 who’s meta role is just to help one character be T0

[@judielgabrielmanalo5031]

Hmc is free so?

[@dante19890]

Doesn't firefly have skill point issues at e0?

[@Marto-kh6sm]

If you play bad yes, but her team is very sp positive so there's almost no time when you can't do skill

[@dante19890]

@@Marto-kh6sm HMC want to skill a lot too so it all basically comes down to a very fast Gallagher

[@Marto-kh6sm]

@@dante19890 ruan mei is sp positive and TB can put some autos if the enemy is not broken or imaginary weak. E1 is only for comfy but it's not a bad investment at all since you r getting closer to e2

[@LCooler91]

Wtf how firefly can be more sp- at E2..

[@Deathclaw6364]

She is sp- at e2 because she uses a skill point to enter her state assuming it's at the start of the battle when she already has 50% by default and the she is in her state not consuming skill points but also not generating any so she is still negative but not very much honestly

[@WiiSage]

tier list is base on all 5 star characters being E0 which is the even ground for everyone that has the character, not everyone is going to have a E2 Firefly

[@LCooler91]

@@WiiSage I know the list is based on E0 but he mentioned firefly will use more skill point at E2 because of the extra turn...

[@andrewhaydock5557]

@@LCooler91 Ya he was just wrong there not thinking that she solved the sp issue with e1.

[@JJ-mn3nd]

I feel like my Acheron is really underperforming and I don’t know why, in combat she has 91 crit rate and 230 crit damage, her team is pela, sparkle, and aventurine, she has her signature lightcone but only does 400k per ult, but I’ve seen people hit 800k with GNSW and I’m just confused

[@Gee_112]

Its E0? If It is, you are probably losing A LOT of damage because u are not running her with other 2 nihility chats to take the full Buff id A2

[@shutup1037]

You need 2 nihility

[@JJ-mn3nd]

@shutup1037 when I play guinifen instead of sparkle I do less damage

[@Gee_112]

@@JJ-mn3nd Then maybe someone isnt built properly. Also maybe the traces...?

[@JJ-mn3nd]

@Gee_112 my Acheron has 10,9,8 traces and sparkle has 240crit damage in battle and 152 speed

[@leandrodelmistro2238]

I still think Dan hang with sparkle is T0.

[@UltimatePollo3495]

Nah he is not t0 also for the versatility like acheron ult ignores the element type something like that separates them

[@leandrodelmistro2238]

@@UltimatePollo3495 problem is she can take a long time to burst if you don't have the right characters and without her burst her damage is meh.

[@UltimatePollo3495]

@leandrodelmistro2238 well that is fixed with jiaoqui as he can apply debuffs even on ennmie turn

[@leandrodelmistro2238]

@@UltimatePollo3495That is true I think I also just need to put speed boots on my Acheron cause she does not get enough turns. I just find my dan hang team stronger I guess.

[@UltimatePollo3495]

@@leandrodelmistro2238 that why I run one nihility and run sparkle even though I don't have e2

[@nk30020]

Why fu xuan fell off ? Also Gallagher got a massive W

[@michalcynarski7321]

Fu xuan is garbage I got her E1 S0 on her rerun based on all the tier list, Fu Xuan is thrash, no one comes close to huohuo, huohuo e1 is God tier makes fu xan and aventurine in the same team look like a joke. Huohuo is 2 tiers higher then aventurine none of these content creators have huohuo cause they don't know how broken she is.

[@HeliumIsBack]

@@michalcynarski7321 thrash

[@UltimatePollo3495]

​@michalcynarski7321 so huhhoh can prevent one shots didn't think so adventurine e1 makes u have infinite shields and helps with crit dmg

[@dilucragnvindr130]

It depends on the meta with current buffs in MoC that greatly benefits break teams so Fu Xuan's damage mitigation is no longer powerful if the enemy can't even attack when they are in a weakness broken state most of the time.

[@crash5758]

@@michalcynarski7321nah bro, while i think huohuo is better than fu xuan, you lost all credibility when you said E1 fu xuan is trash. Huohuo making them look like a joke is a joke of a statement. Aventurine is the better sustain out of the 3, why? Near impregnable defense, does sub dps level dmg and increases crit dmg the enemy takes. You could argue that huohuo is the same level but not better

[@Taunt69]

gall >>> lowcha

[@Somethingaboutanother12358]

I’ve been saying on release of gallagher but I got attacked by luocha stans it was pretty self explanatory why he’s better he offers more than just pure healing 😂

[@UltimatePollo3495]

I have been saying this aswell but my case even worse they were arguing lynx was better than him ​@Somethingaboutanother12358

[@wadi1989]

STOP SAYING BUMP UP PLEASE

[@HeliumIsBack]

why tho

[@miscellaneous7777]

​@@HeliumIsBack because they have issues

[@leostiffer530]

Bump up up up bump down down

[@wadi1989]

Idk if I would consider not wanting to hear the same phrase over 50 times in a 10-minute video having issues, but yes, I do also have issues.

[@Tomouryu]

Best DPS? Ya mean hottest DPS, right?