FIRST ANNIVERSARY NUMBERS ARE HERE

[@gabrielcesar2388]

If you play 2-3 hours 5 days a week it takes like 2 months to get to 60 for reference

[@andrew2616]

Ya thats if they continue playing. Playing 2-3 hr and not even getting a level just feels bad. These numbers are only going to get worse. Most of these people completely forgot how bad it was to re level with Zero assistance (no gold to buy gear and a mount). People will definitely quit before they hit 60.

[@bobshagit]

if you are really really AWFUL

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number. I understand that people take longer to level but that’s something that’s crazy

[@gabrielcesar2388]

@@Kaghoegaming I agree. It makes sense though. Played 2019-wotlk and now sod and I’d rather keep playing sod and some hardcore before going back to fresh

[@generalsdragons6952]

@@Kaghoegaming Its taking longer for me this time around to level, every zone is packed with players making it hard to get stuff done. Give it time and these numbers will grow, not everybody is a no lifer with 18 hours a day to play.

[@Chickentendersaregood91]

I don’t find it too shocking because who actually wants to level same ol no change classic to raid molten core and split 2 pieces of loot per boss between 40 people with warrior the only good class. Sounds so brutal

[@martenhansen7419]

100% brother

[@bobshagit]

omg.... in 20 years....I have found ONE person aside from me that gets how stupid this game is

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number. That’s my biggest concern

[@justsomeguy4422]

this might sound crazy. but a large portion of classic era does that. so like... idk man it seems there are people that in fact do want to do that. because most people only play 1 or two classes. most people that kept with era have learned more than just their 1-2 classes they mainly play. if you want something different from classic, SoD is right there with its huge 150% exp boost which trivializes the entire games purpose which is leveling. it only sounds brutal because you already know what its like, but it sounds like your perspective is from someone actively looking for loot. not someone who is fully geared and just playing around on an alt with friends or guildies in a raid. just keep that in mind, when everyone gets bored of classic fresh, and after TBC classic happens again, we all know whats coming next, people will quit soon as ulduar drops and go right back to where they started. classic era. wow players go full circle more times than an actual drug addict getting clean. cause its not like cata classic is doing any better, and mop classic is a hit or miss to most. and everything after is just waiting till legion and then quit when shadowlands classic happens.

[@generalsdragons6952]

@@Kaghoegaming People aren't FOMO'ing the game, I have grouped with many chill people compared to 2019.

[@DH2point3]

"Im shocked the numbers are so low" guy who plays games all day and doesnt work 9 to 5

[@Kaghoegaming]

I never compare it to myself because I’m well aware im blessed. Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number. That’s my biggest concern

[@DH2point3]

@@Kaghoegaming i know I'm just busting your balls. 2019 didn't have sod to compare leveling to. And with the rune brokers and xp boost the journey is just quicker. It was always a niche few that wanted a relaunch of classic stale

[@kevintees6517]

I think most people haven't even hit 60 yet. Slow and low is the name of the game.

[@Ben-nx2mz]

Yep, i started 5 days ago on spineshatter, the zones are so full that u cant even quest in a normal speed. In Stv it takes u like 30 min to finish a tiger kill quest cause everything gets farmed off spawn. I think alot of people will hit 60 over the Holidays and the 20k will double atleast

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number

[@oncesealedalwayssealed6393]

@@Kaghoegaming Yeah, but in 2019 there wasn't a cata server, era server, sod server. So I don't think its surprising the #s is smaller than 2019. Oh also something else everyone should take into consideration is POE2. A ton of people have ventured over there to play it.

[@terryherrington1014]

a lot of our guys have hit 60 within the last 10 days but with christmas coming we decided to not raid until jan. might be several guilds doing that so i would expect the numbers to go up in jan.

[@Kaghoegaming]

Fair enough! Just with all the hype it seemed like tons more were going to be blasting is all

[@shaunrobinson6]

From what I see, most people aren't 60. They are taking their time and enjoying the journey. The zones are still super crowded, way more than I've ever seen on SoD. I've been playing an average of maybe an hour or two (or a few) a night and I'm lvl 46.

[@Young_Bourdain]

I work full-time, workout, take care of life tasks, have to spend time with the GF, have to spend time with friends… outside of my “weekend” and a few hours a night I’m not grinding WoW like I used to. I plan on leveling multiple classes over the course of a year and getting them ready for TBC. I think there are quite a few others in the same boat.

[@shaunrobinson6]

Same here bud, very similar situation.

[@frugo4907]

20k isnt surprising to me at all. in fact it think thats quite a bit. in order to be raiding right now you have to have been playing nonstop for the last few weeks. I no-lifed it as hard as i could and didnt even make the first lockout. A month into Classic 2019 only had 40k raiders. it took until 2020 for MC to reach its peak raiding base in classic. Most dads who can only play a few hours a night are about level 40 right now, and wont be 60 until after phase 2.

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number

[@spuzzter]

I imagine that most people aren't raiding and/or pvping on anniversary yet for whatever reason, which would drive the numbers down. That being said I'm not surprised that the numbers are lower than the 2019 launch.

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number. That’s my biggest concern

[@SlashspitGaming]

I think anniversary fresh servers will have a bump soon as far as raiders are concerns. a lot of casuals arent even 60 yet, and the raid is only like 2 weeks old. I bet itll double from 20k to 40k.

[@elijahg6284]

Everyone’s level 30 to 50 right now, most people are enjoying the journey

[@TheBart990]

after a month? not true - most long time wow players should be 60

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number

[@michaelpurdon7032]

​@@Kaghoegaming are you new at data interpretation?

[@Thedrunkenswede1337]

​@@TheBart990it is very much true the big majority is not 60 yet

[@Chorge]

Blizzard should just make an auto-reset classic vanilla at this point and give them a little icon for every reset that they complete all raids. The classic vanilla player base clearly doesn't care about longevity; they just want to start fresh over and over again forever. Let them have their playground, and let us move on.

[@Kaghoegaming]

Would be interesting haha

[@audiofun1]

Fresh (only) player here. Only 1 character and im only level 35. From my point of view not even 50 percent of the players are raiding yet

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number. That’s my biggest concern

[@Thedrunkenswede1337]

​@@Kaghoegaming litterly mpre then 60% have bot reached 60 yet

[@_Travey]

I’m loving fresh, I’m not even 60 yet. Same goes for all of my friends.

[@Kaghoegaming]

Of course I wish I had real numbers, but raid is my best one. Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number. That’s my biggest concern

[@AlphaSmoke100]

the era servers are merged. also everyone in anniversary is still lvling im only 54

[@Kaghoegaming]

Thank you!

[@AmongRevenants]

My annual numbers for SoD... main acc - 183 days, 15 hours, 56 min 2nd acc - 136 days, 20 hours , 4 mins Total toonage played - 320 days, 12 hours And still adding to my count daily.

[@Kaghoegaming]

Love to hear the dedication, I’m only at 80-90 days

[@bestjal654]

thats a lot man :D not that much in my case but more than the years before. for me SOD Is the best version since original tbc/ legion. i am having a blast!!! for a dedicated player like you AmongRevenants: what will be the best ending for this season? SOD ERA?

[@AmongRevenants]

@@bestjal654 Give us SoD progressive.. I'd even have fun playing the crappy xpacs again :)

[@AmongRevenants]

@@bestjal654 Or better yet. Confine SoD to Azeroth only, and skip the offworld and time adventures.

[@bestjal654]

@@AmongRevenants so sod progressive would mean: classic to like MOP? and jumping in that hamsterwhweel again is fine for you? isnt it nice to know the ending? an easy win after naxx and the scarlett raid/dungeon would be addin ghostlands with b11 and exodar with draenei. world content, zul aman raid. also they could add DK and maybe even monk. they could just grab content out of 20 years of world of warcraft and merge it in to SOD. but stay 60 and in azeroth

[@zolmation]

these numbers are based off of WCL. ANV numbers are low because a plethora of players are still leveling

[@spencernorris5938]

YES!!! MY weekly ironforge pro chart numbers analysis!

[@Kaghoegaming]

Yes sirrrr the best

[@o0Henry0o]

No offence Kaghoe but it’s kinda stupid comparing fresh with 2019 it’s Apple with oranges

[@Kaghoegaming]

????????

[@o0Henry0o]

@ reading your comments about comparing the numbers to 2019. Fresh was a surprise announcement that didn’t have time to build up hype while 2019 classic had years of hype before it’s release

[@madchessLeviathan]

picture in the back is not even from aniverary servers, several scarab lords photo bombing it.

[@Alejandro_87]

The thing about Fresh classic for me was that I had just already experienced WoW classic 1-60 for the first time but in Defias Pillager HC and that took me 4 months. Then SoD came out and that was my introduction into a PvP realm and basically was a fresh classic yet again but on Horde side, I've regretfully mained a warrior since phase 1, got Thunderfury due to a fluke because several people callled out on raid last minute, raid with a great group of people, and am continuing to grind alts. There was just no way I was going to just start over minus all the improvements that SoD spoiled me with

[@Kaghoegaming]

I feel that strongly man, it’s a great point, if I wasn’t a CC I probably would not have played it

[@andrew2616]

THANK YOU for covering this. Its so dam important. The loud Minority hyped up Fresh so dam much, only for just 20k people to be raiding a month in. This is truly sad and was to be expected. Did people leave SoD and Classic Era to play Fresh....yes they did but not enough to make a significant difference. Plus, the streamers are hyping up Fresh and HC right now. After they leave, most of those plays will leave as well and Fresh will drop even further. All Fresh did was essentially Split Classic Era in 2. Prior to Fresh, Classic Era sat at 17k players. Players are even quitting Fresh and trying SoD for the first time because of how unbalanced the classes are in Fresh AND the horrendous leveling. Its actually pretty cool to see.

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

XD

[@Ben-nx2mz]

the server is so packed full that u have to wait 2 min for quest mobs to spawn everywhere :D people are just not 60 yet

[@_Travey]

Dumb dumb 😂

[@andrew2616]

@@_Travey Gonna be so funny when you are playing on a dead server after the Holidays

[@andrew2616]

@@Ben-nx2mz Ya thats if people even get to 60. Its not hard to group in a dungeon and level up that way. Plus, its layered which nullifies your point even more. Layering is done to help people quest.

[@russellgarrettbaldwin3037]

Perhaps I missed it sir, but I did not hear the Phase 6 drop connected to the fresh launch. Surely it also impacted going from 85k+ down to the 60k area. Thoughts? (And if you said this and I missed it, hey, comment engagement.)

[@neilbecker1140]

did that include HC server too?

[@Kaghoegaming]

No

[@michaelthomas1916]

A few of us in our SoD guild were playing for a few weeks but not much lately. We're mostly in 30s. I'm the lowest in the 20s. Our plan is to be 58 by the time they release fresh TBC. No plans to raid at 60 in fresh. SoD is the main thing for now.

[@audiofun1]

My main goal in fresh is simply to play it casually. To be 60 at launch of TBC is my only goal. Having a nice chunk of gold to take into outland would be icing on the cake

[@coolcutztv]

At this point Wow is becoming a novelty game like super Mario

[@Kaghoegaming]

I think that could be what a ton of people are doing!

[@AmongRevenants]

Except for CC- Every wow release means big player numbers at the start when everyone is playing. Dropping down to the core, Sodcore, dedicated gamers who continue to game daily, after the honeymoon period. The P3.5 drought. Sod lost the casuals. For weeks now we have see a stable Alliance Sodcore. Hordeside though it's been squishy trying to hold stable numbers. The Sodcore losses are more or less a hordeside issue.

[@bobshagit]

when over 60% of phase 1 "players" in sod was BOTS its hard to even believe any of these "numbers" when they refuse to cover these bot numbers anywhere

[@Kaghoegaming]

Bots were raiding BFD?

[@bobshagit]

@@Kaghoegaming YES I had pugged with several of my alts... like you I had multiple 25s in phase 1 huntertard bots were all over it

[@Ewokman]

Numbers are expected to be lower this go around. People are on SOD, Cata, and Era. People are also leveling slow because they are playing other versions of the game. That number will be way higher once more people level. Leveling zones are still packed. SM & Mara has 100s of players being boosted daily... Lot's of guilds don't have their full rosters either. I know it's lower than classic 2019, but the rush to clear everything is not there for a lot of people. Most of the player base is taking a slower approach this time. It's looked at differently than 2019.

[@SerPally]

Absolutely. When 2019 rolled around it was the only version of “Classic” available and it had been the first release since the game came out with lots of time for hype and build. There are multiple versions of classic going right now this time and people are definitely not rushing it as much as they did then. Lots of people are even seeing it as a TBC waiting room and May not raid as much. ALSO the streamer guild OnlyFangs has a tonnn of people on hardcore right now and naturally it takes much longer for people to get to raid on that game mode. Lots of differences here.

[@AmongRevenants]

For a comparison of CC- to SoD. Look at SoD's total numbers. That tiny bar at our worst moment of the drought. Represents CC-'s honeymoon. Compared to the SoDcore. And what's left of era. Is only half that bar. And only Firelands is propping up CATA atm. When that honeymoon ends. New content for the SoDcore will tank CATA's numbers. They drop to 50k again will mean Blizz has to acknowledge SoD as the best route forward for Classic.... Plus.

[@AmongRevenants]

More Alliance in the Sodcore raided last week then both all of era and CC- combined.

[@Kaghoegaming]

Time will certainly tell but your analysis is correct

[@AmongRevenants]

CC-'s impact on SoD was minimal and only for a week or so before SoD started building numbers again. I cover an ungodly amount of streamers across all versions of wow. CC-, other than OnlyFangs, was a non-event. Day 1 had no queues except maybe the onlyfangs server at the start. Seriously. After SoD. No one was going backwards to the same old, same old. Era took the hit with #nochanges splintering into #smallchanges. Other trhen CATA's Firelands high. The Sodcore are the stable #classicplus.

[@AmongRevenants]

And OnlyFangs is starting to dry up as well. Which means CC- is about done. And it's only carrot. Oh gee we get to play TBC all over again with little change. A whole year from now. On new Classic Progressive servers. Because no one will be playing Classic Progressive WoD in a couple years. CC- was only just a Classic Prog restart to avoid WoD. Blizz dropped the ball. WoW was primed and ready for Classic Plus. Not a classic do'over.

[@Kaghoegaming]

It’s been very interesting with it all, even as a creator I’m conflicted

[@coolcutztv]

Forced shareholder bad release dates. Anniversary wow should have been released about 2 years from now and cataclysm should have have been for next year. These numbers just mean players are burnt out

[@Kaghoegaming]

Could be this

[@easycake3251]

Cata started healthy too. Sadly "we" should be into Dragonsoul by now, and not early points of Firelands. So ofc they just butchered Cata by milking the subs for a few more months. They are absolutely bis at killing their own game modes thru neglect. Also, why would you think 50-70k would go back for Stale ? This is like the 4th release back to back (Including SoM). Im shocked that 20k are even there. Half are probably streamers getting a free meal by pretending to enjoy playing it during the hype. 100% in 1-2 months that number goes down by half.

[@raine2005]

These anniversary servers will flop as fast as SOM servers did. Once the shine of new is worn off. Maybe next week you can find out what the raid numbers were in SOM after the first month. I bet they are similar to these numbers

[@theoutlander1411]

Interesting, but I think a TBC fresh would have gone better without the Vanilla. There's an exp squish in TBC which would have made it go by faster, and when the portal would have been open, everyone would have been ready. I think it will go up to maybe 30-40k though, but Vanilla fresh was a loud minority. People have been levelling 1-60 since 2019 and it's a long journey to do over and over and over again

[@khongo1018]

They should've released the game with the tbc talent trees and system upgrades but stop leveling at 60 and do a quicker Cadence on lvl 60 content release until the time for the portal to open

[@Kaghoegaming]

I would’ve LOVED that

[@mantequillas1278]

I"m only level 10, sir. I just couldn't do it... The idea of going back to molten core after sod was just not appealing to me. All I could think was, "Again?" Also, less loot drops, double the people and crap itemization. But I do know a couple of people playing it and they're obly level 40. To see real numbers, you need about 1 more month. And a month after that, when naxx is out on sod, I feel people will be coming back. I already know a few people leveling their characters again.

[@bspus]

False alarm IMO. Anniversary world is full, layers are well populated. It's probably just a lack of interest in raiding as well as the fact that the average player just about reached 60, if that. I don't even know if I'm gonna raid at all. Maybe do each raid a couple of times for quests and specific items. I plan to gear through pvp and just keep the character read for TBC. For many, the anniversary realm is just a waiting room for TBC

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number

[@bspus]

@@Kaghoegaming You are comparing a version that was hyped for years literally before release, at a time when the only available official wow version was modern retail, with a re-release at a time when there are literally a dozen official versions around. Of course its significantly lower, but its not a problem or cause for concern.

[@claing17]

i gotta stand around in org early one morning so i can be in one of these videos haha

[@bobshagit]

he "plays" for a few minutes.... just to make these videos sits in org and asks everyone their tricks.... then makes videos about them he is a worthIess hack

[@Kaghoegaming]

You’re an idiot if you think that, I play quite a lot, have close to 100 days played in SoD, the only reason I’m not on as much is because I’m on anniversary.

[@Kaghoegaming]

Everyday around 9am to 11am EST is my recording time

[@Frenetic14]

Classic Naxx didn't last very long? I have 24 weeks logged....

[@Kaghoegaming]

Yeah I’m not really sure when it started

[@Ins0mnia365]

People dont wanna level and gather all the hard drops again. Sod's future with kara and scarlet im hyped for. Also getting ready for naxx.

[@emoussea1]

People are just straight up burned out on doing classic. We’ve done 2019, SOM, SOD, ERA all before this.

[@joshbelton2689]

its only the 1st week for anniversary. give it another 2 weeks or so. there will be way more most likely

[@Zirziq]

Nice video. Thanks for sharing

[@kalsizzle]

theres so many people on doomhowl hardcore so im not so sure if those numbers are accurate. I'll probably transfer to PVE if I die.

[@OceanTidesSunsets]

Based purely on just observing in game, i think the main herd of fresh players is around level 40

[@michaelpurdon7032]

He is having trouble fathoming that this time around doesn't have the same sort of grind mindset, even from the sweats (almost especially from the sweats)

[@kalsizzle]

I would 100% be playing cata if SoD didnt exist. My guild might play MoP though depending on what happens with SoD.

[@knifegirl485]

Most people are not lvl 60 yet.

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number. That’s my biggest concern

[@loveandheartbreak7107]

Idk if this is accurate dude zones are consistently packed i really think raiding and rushing to 60 is a no no for me at this point and theres thousands of of people just taking it easy as thats “ how the game should be play “ we cant measure a game by just “raids” i believe its more casual gamers this time around and honestly I prefer it that way i hate hardcore guilds and how anal they take this game

[@chrisservoss9513]

Classic Fresh is played out. Easy pass from me after doing 2019, SoM and SoD. See you next year when TBC releases.

[@coreymartin1680]

Most the ppl are still 40-50 unless they have no life

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number. That’s my biggest concern

[@AmongRevenants]

The Sodcore's absolute worst week of the season. The equal of CC-'s best first week drop honeymoon. We wanted C+, not CC-. Blizz got the math wrong. And we need to also account for the limited and fizzing out OnlyFangs event. Pumping the honeymoon numbers higher then they would of been. If OnlyFangs went Era as intended. CC- would of cratered day one. If it didn't already.

[@AmongRevenants]

At the end of the day. For the Sodcore to win. Everyone else has to loose. I'm okay with that.

[@mitchconner2021]

I just think people are tired of classic. They didn't do any kind of quality of life changes duel spec and running to WPL for chrono isn't nearly enough so people have already gotten bored. It was 100% just cuz like 4 streamers wanting HC and most people can't stand those streamers.

[@bobshagit]

when the "streamers" are just playing HC to get other players killed to record their deaths no one wants to play that cancer any more Xaryu wanted to kill the entire raid in MC just for the content

[@Kaghoegaming]

Sod is the best :)

[@bobshagit]

@@Kaghoegaming SOD is a complete joke

[@corpsefenn]

Stable yeah right had 2 bugs this week. 1st bug was AQ small not spawninng 1st chest doing hardmode and AQ 40 we could turn off Hard mode at twins. It's BS

[@Abrin32]

I see Khagoe, I updoot I comment.

[@Kaghoegaming]

The best thank you :)

[@SuperSnow1989]

SOD is simply the better version of the game. Don’t want to press one button and forced to play a warrior.

[@dylanreidel5520]

SoD is eating

[@gaudric98]

Its still too early. most people aren't 60 yet.

[@arkz2jz241]

We're not 60 yet lol.

[@MikeyJ28]

I’m just happy people are returning to SoD and coming in for the first time. Feels nice to see the leveling zones filled with players again.

[@monsterjam41]

most players are not 60 yet that i snt surprising at all

[@Brant24x7]

people get tired and you cook your gaming population down to the try-hardiest of the try hards when you continuously have all these 'fresh' launches and then new patch releases for current versions. people want a true classic+ with a 6-9month prep time to be able to enjoy it all the rerereleases do is bring back the that cooked down try hard population and the few malingering new people coming to try out whatever the new 'fresh' is without the wow streamer community the rereleases wouldn't even have traction

[@thaskor2713]

Most of ppl are not 60 yet lol

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number

[@guekasihtau5403]

Im still lvl 36 😅

[@mattjellymonster1488]

Majority of players are in mid 40’s… lol misleading statistics

[@bobshagit]

thats when they started mass banning bots so yes.... there are a lot of "players" at 40

[@Kaghoegaming]

it’s the only stat we have…Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number. That’s my biggest concern,

[@jonm8672]

Tried fresh couldn’t do it releasing the runes at lvl 1 is a big plus and I appreciate blizzard making us a modded version of classic and it is fun even with the problems and I’m not even 60 yet. I’m in no rush, currently I’m splitting time wandering twow and while rough around the edges imo I’m impressed with what those modders have done. I can only imagine what blizzard could truly do with sod with the tools they have.

[@Aldassar]

Many of the players on anniversary are bots unfortunately 🙁

[@scottlavale1502]

you're surprised because you don't PVP. Fresh PVP is DEAD , SOD PVP is dying everyday because blizzard totally unbalanced the game by a huge margin. Mages can do icelances of 3.1k spams ... hunters can do kill shots of 2800dmg 3 in a row .... shaman tank/healers take 4 people to kill one. They nerfed rogue damage again (Ninja nerf) , They buffed stun resist (hidden buff) Every orc or priest or warrior with stun resist even if its 15% is resisting more then 60% of the time. They made armor that reflects damage and its destroying all the rogues. Also, Hardcore is taking all the place with the streamer community..... overall classic is dying. The game needs new ability new runes and proper tweaking. Nobody is playing sod just to do the same fresh content with a few twist and turns. PArsing is dead, since game mechanics don't allow to just hit bosses none stop. The new blizzard company is killing every game it touches ..... Diablo 4 , hearstone is dying and now wow....

[@fushey]

People often dont need what they want. A business gets into dangerous territory when they simply deliver what customer's say they want without a deeper understanding of what need the customers want must satisfy

[@williamfischer7918]

Buddy, these are just raiders. id say only 20 percent of anniversary pop is 60 so far... not surprising at all

[@Ben-nx2mz]

i would say not even 5% are 60 atm^^

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number… that’s why it’s crazy

[@williamfischer7918]

@@Kaghoegaming yea but who expected it to be as high as classic 2019? I knew it wouldnt be anything close

[@AmongRevenants]

Not sure how you feel about bots, here'supdate on Madskillzhc, bot killer, and under threat. There's been enough hype lately over his situation via Asmondgold and other streamers that he came back with another reveal today in his war vs botting. He was calling it quits after being doxxed and threats against him and his family. Exposing The Botting Mafia in World of Warcraft... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp_EpoFopdB3eLM

[@Kaghoegaming]

I saw that, it’s insane that to me, I hate bots and report them when I see them

[@TheBart990]

Only 20k on fresh with al lthe streamers attention it received is a major failure.

[@bobshagit]

if the company actually spent the money on the game, instead of paying streamers to play it then MAYBE the game would improve

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number, which is ALARMING

[@thegrindingn00b69]

not surprised most peopl havent hit 60yet to raid

[@Kaghoegaming]

Compare it to week 1 of 2019 with no delay, this was a month delay and it’s half that number

[@Ben-nx2mz]

@@Kaghoegaming It 2019 we didnt have 5 diffrent versions of Classic and also it was a diffrent level of Hype. Alot of people realized since than u can just enjoy the Game without Dungeon cleaving to 60. Imo the numbers will increase alot over the Holidays since people will finish their leveling