First Dirt: Is the New Toyota Tacoma Trailhunter BETTER Than the TRD Pro?

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( www.alltfl.com ) Watch more videos from TFL Studios! In this video, Andre and Roman check out both the hybrid 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro and the new kid on the block: the overland-focused Trailhunter! What are the differences between the two trucks?
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0:00 Intro
0:54 New TRD Pro Off-road
14:13 TRD Pro walkaround
18:09 New Trailhunter Off-road
31:41 Trailhunter walkaround
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@motoapes3623
@motoapes3623 10 күн бұрын
$63,900 before markups. Quick math: $6,400 down (10%) + tax and interest (7.64) 60 Months Payment: $1260 @12.5% of take home pay you should be earning $157,500 annually to be looking at this car (assuming the appropriate taxes are coming out of your paycheck). National average wage (US Census): $63795. Percentage making $150k annually: approx. 8.3% 5 Year price increase Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro: 2019 MSRP: $42,960 2024 MSRP: $63,900 49% increase Wage growth 2019-2024: 1.7% (Source: US Treasury) These price increases far outpace inflation and wage growth. Toyota is targeting 8% of total market. Or people who just want to act fiscally irresponsible😂.
@simplebroco9577
@simplebroco9577 10 күн бұрын
I appreciate this comment. Thank you for the info!
@jppilotadventurez5251
@jppilotadventurez5251 10 күн бұрын
This comment need to be pinned! Introduce some sense onto people.
@XloMotion
@XloMotion 10 күн бұрын
Taco bros will completely ignore this comment.
@tylerkstevens
@tylerkstevens 10 күн бұрын
Money supply has increased over 50 % so it’s just tracking true inflation. CPI is fake. Wages increase last. Centillion effect.
@tigerbiterhater
@tigerbiterhater 10 күн бұрын
Or we can just accept the fact that there’s actually people out there with money. People still buying over msrp. 🤔
@4rr44E
@4rr44E 10 күн бұрын
$65K!!! One word… nope.
@scoobygms210
@scoobygms210 10 күн бұрын
People paid 75k for the first gladiators and people been paying almost 90k for fully loaded F150s the world's crazy !! No one likes money !!
@felixgato718
@felixgato718 10 күн бұрын
65k could get a used TRX or Raptor. I think 50k for the TRX and 55k for the TH.
@NM-235
@NM-235 10 күн бұрын
It has cost 60k to get a well equipped rubicon for years. This is what happens when the government shuts down the economy and prints money for 3 years. It’s not political it’s simple economics. Increasing the supply of money without a commensurate increase in the size of the economy results in reduced value of the money ( inflation ). The published rates are lies. Look at the price of groceries or houses everything is up 20-50%. But wait gas isn’t up because we kept draining the strategic oil reserves.
@jeremyf5051
@jeremyf5051 10 күн бұрын
Wait, $65k? Do you know where we can get them that cheap? Imagine dealer markups will make it $70k at least.
@ezneil5092
@ezneil5092 10 күн бұрын
​@@scoobygms210Bold for you to asume alot of people don't have the kind of money and just keep the money themselves be passive and stay poor lol😂
@davidvasquez1269
@davidvasquez1269 10 күн бұрын
After taxes, you’re looking at 67-70k. Insane for a midsize truck.
@laithalmas8413
@laithalmas8413 10 күн бұрын
more than that, you'll never get a TRD Pro or Trailhunter that isn't loaded with $5k worth of options that you don't want or need
@Cocky.Rooster
@Cocky.Rooster 10 күн бұрын
And only 2 usable seats 🫤
@dansnowman29
@dansnowman29 10 күн бұрын
Dealer mark-up, or whatever they call it. More like $80k
@Ryles890
@Ryles890 10 күн бұрын
Be a 90k truck in Canada, by the time you finance it or 6 or 7 years at the new "industry standard loan rates" probably cost 110-120k.
@borhotkaar3480
@borhotkaar3480 10 күн бұрын
And a 1200$ payment….
@lordcorgi6481
@lordcorgi6481 10 күн бұрын
I can't wait for the Sienna Trailhunter review 🤣
@scotchbrite1241
@scotchbrite1241 10 күн бұрын
That price is outrageous Toyota!
@mansoor123hussain
@mansoor123hussain 6 күн бұрын
I hear what you’re saying but we live in an era where people pay $8 for a damn coffee
@Keefer24
@Keefer24 3 күн бұрын
@@mansoor123hussainnever in my life would I expect people to pay 70k for a 4cyl midsize truck. That’s certified insanity right there 😂
@TimSaundersC4
@TimSaundersC4 10 күн бұрын
I did the math, and the Trail Hunter, priced at $63,000 USD, is equivalent to $86,000 CAD. In Ontario, there's a 13% tax, so the total cost for the Trail Hunter is $97,000 CAD.
@kabloosh699
@kabloosh699 10 күн бұрын
At those prices they are making the Ranger Raptor look like a deal at 57-58k and the ZR2 the best bang for your buck at 48-52k.
@redrider7730
@redrider7730 10 күн бұрын
@TimSaundersC4 Add your needed destination charges and your over 100K Can. It's a deal!
@shmac96
@shmac96 10 күн бұрын
Dont forget your carbon tax thats meant to help save the environment by taking even more of your money. Good times!
@jtomtl
@jtomtl 10 күн бұрын
86K for a small truck, No means no, I am a Toyota guy but it’s ridiculous pricing
@mknervy
@mknervy 10 күн бұрын
yup, now add fees and let's say you finance some of that 97k, so interest as well, and now it's well above 100k CAD. so f'ed up I'd say!
@theirthereandtheyre2947
@theirthereandtheyre2947 10 күн бұрын
$40k was my max for what I paid for a new truck. I wanted a midsize but settled on a Ram 1500. There has to be a huge market correction. A new truck is only new for a very short period of time, after that you’re stuck with a huge bill for 84 months.
@TomStarcevich-fb3qo
@TomStarcevich-fb3qo 10 күн бұрын
Ordered my 2021ram1500 classic tradesman quad cab 4x4 v6 with lots of extras paid 40k with taxes and a extended warranty last good good deal 👍 before prices went crazy 😮
@270eman
@270eman 9 күн бұрын
@@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I got the 23 Tacoma SR5 4x4 V6 DBL cab 6ft bed for 41 with the technology package. You can still get a 24 SR 4x4 for less than 38 or SR5 for 43. I got the 23 for the V6.
@TomStarcevich-fb3qo
@TomStarcevich-fb3qo 9 күн бұрын
@@270eman good price nice truck 🛻👍
@kx8960
@kx8960 8 күн бұрын
@@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I paid $53k for my loaded w/moonroof 2024 ZR2, but I'm ok with that as it has more power, and more offroad capability with it's front and rear lockers, and better offroad angles and clearance, and smaller size and turning radius, oh, and the 360deg cameras and dual TFT screens as I usually go out alone. I might give up some cargo and towing capacity, but that's a good tradeoff for the better offroad capability.
@TomStarcevich-fb3qo
@TomStarcevich-fb3qo 8 күн бұрын
@@kx8960 nice truck 👍 good price
@nm-qt2hb
@nm-qt2hb 10 күн бұрын
"smaller kids or legless friends"🤣🤣
@kx8960
@kx8960 8 күн бұрын
...I don't have any legless friends....YET...(a few moments later, with a chainsaw...)...🤣
@nm-qt2hb
@nm-qt2hb 8 күн бұрын
@@kx8960 The seats may be fantastic for the Baja 1000. I doubt that any person doing normal off-road adventures will ever benefit from them. Not to mention the loss of rear leg room.
@kx8960
@kx8960 8 күн бұрын
@@nm-qt2hb Yup. To me, it's a gimmick, and looks really weird. Oh, and what happens when those shocks start leaking oil all over the interior?
@Kakiharaichii
@Kakiharaichii 10 күн бұрын
Everything that made me love cars has disappeared in recent years. I’ll but a couple of old cars and keep them forever. It is out of control.
@briskhockey
@briskhockey 3 күн бұрын
I got a 2018 frontier last year. It's my newest vehicle I've ever owned. Everyone seems to shit frontiers for being outdated, but having a truck that actually feels like a truck with buttons feels amazing. The highest tech it has is a display with Bluetooth built in. And I love it.
@Keefer24
@Keefer24 3 күн бұрын
@@briskhockeyI leased the new gen a couple years back while I was living in Montana for work. Had it for one year, i truly enjoyed it.
@bawintermage8351
@bawintermage8351 10 күн бұрын
Who cares at this price point? Im sorry, but cars and trucks are way overpriced. Its time for a market correction. And the people who claim that, it doesn't matter if you have money, are either lying trolls or part of the problem by paying mortgage ($900+) payments for a depreciating hunk of pre rusted tin and turbos.
@janetairlines1351
@janetairlines1351 10 күн бұрын
Agreed. New vehicles are not remotely worth it anymore
@ryansheard8092
@ryansheard8092 10 күн бұрын
I want to know where a $900 mortgage is? Mine is $2000 a month and that's CHEAP!
@andrewsbbq
@andrewsbbq 10 күн бұрын
@@ryansheard8092I’m $900/week
@bawintermage8351
@bawintermage8351 10 күн бұрын
@@ryansheard8092 I wanted to strike a balance between what was obviously too high for a car payment and low mortgage payments and juxtapose that against what some fools are paying. I've heard of $1600 payments for trucks.
@ryansheard8092
@ryansheard8092 10 күн бұрын
@@bawintermage8351 I don't have a truck payment, but ok. It's easier to just pay for the thing outright than it is to finance. I think your anger is directed in the wrong places.
@ShadowBend
@ShadowBend 9 күн бұрын
Nissan Frontier looking real good these days. This price is wild. If purely offroading, maybe this makes sense. But it cant even fit 4 decent size humans comfortably.
@Ldiepian
@Ldiepian 7 күн бұрын
got my 23 Pro4x for 38k & that's looking even more like a steal now
@lulop022882
@lulop022882 5 күн бұрын
Local dealership is selling frontiers like hot cakes. Co worker needed a small pickup and bought a frontier based on my recommendation. She told me the dealership had just sold 28 the day before 🙀. I’m a Toyota die hard, but come one Toyota. I’m hoping they release a Stout
@Keefer24
@Keefer24 3 күн бұрын
@@lulop022882I leased one in 22 for a year while I was living in Montana for work, it was a awesome truck it was a fully loaded pro 4x if I remember correctly the MSRP on it was 45-48 k. It’s still a naturally aspirated V6 and it was awesome in the snow.
@brandonrides8953
@brandonrides8953 9 күн бұрын
$65k and made in Mexico. Maximum profit!
@signkutter9218
@signkutter9218 9 күн бұрын
You act like "made in Mexico" is something to be ashamed of ...get over it ...toyota made in the USA doesn't mean any better.
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 9 күн бұрын
@@signkutter9218it makes it better from a GDP perspective but that concept is likely beyond your grasp
@signkutter9218
@signkutter9218 8 күн бұрын
@mattbrew11 So the quality of your U.S assembled truck is better because of GDP? 😅🤣... 👍. Tacoma has been built in Mexico for over a decade....they also build the Hilux ...
@kx8960
@kx8960 8 күн бұрын
@@signkutter9218 ...LOL Still missing the concept....
@signkutter9218
@signkutter9218 8 күн бұрын
@kx8960 silly boy talkin economics on the subject of build quality
@theaveragewoodsman6002
@theaveragewoodsman6002 10 күн бұрын
That price is insane. Especially with the incoming dealer markups.
@HD-on2eg
@HD-on2eg 9 күн бұрын
It’s like Toyota is giving a big middle finger to all its loyal customers. The year over year price increases are just insane.
@dawg7750
@dawg7750 10 күн бұрын
I'll keep my 2021 Tacoma Off Road thanks.
@useryggfdcc
@useryggfdcc 10 күн бұрын
Installed Bilstein 6112 front, rear ICON AAL with Bilstein 5100. Steel front bumper with 9000lb winch. EXCELLENT TRUCK.
@weemackee
@weemackee 9 күн бұрын
Same. I payed $38k for my 2020 TRD Off Road with Premium package in April 2020. If I were to put $30k in upgrades into it, it'd be a superior vehicle to any stock TRD Pro.
@Keefer24
@Keefer24 3 күн бұрын
@@weemackeeI’m sure you’ll look cool with that going over the speed bumps in the mall parking lot 😂
@wiks101
@wiks101 10 күн бұрын
63K for a midsize WOW - I would never be a customer at that money!
@tobinkern5389
@tobinkern5389 10 күн бұрын
This is the midsize Raptor or TRX. And how much are those trucks? $63K aint bad
@JPEBeard
@JPEBeard 10 күн бұрын
@@tobinkern5389 Actually the Ranger Raptor is 55K.. So yeah Toyota is bad and it takes a few years for them to work out the bugs! Just look at the reliability of the new Tundra! Not paying 66K for a truck made in Mexico either!
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 10 күн бұрын
@@JPEBeard And the Ranger is $7k over the Chevy ZR2 so why not get that?
@JPEBeard
@JPEBeard 10 күн бұрын
@@Dusdaddy Good point but Chevy not been very reliable IMO. Plus they don't have a v6 as well! Besides I rarely see a ZR2 on the lot!
@garykarczewski6678
@garykarczewski6678 10 күн бұрын
Agreed. Over priced junk with way too many features that are not needed. Better to sell with less to make the trucks more affordable. If you want additional crap that doesn't make the truck really any better the go aftermarket.
@curtl1694
@curtl1694 10 күн бұрын
Ranger Raptor or Trailhunter? “Raptor of course” is what Roman was thinking.
@chrisb9478
@chrisb9478 10 күн бұрын
Ranger Raptor, if you like plastic oil and transmission pans & plastic drain plugs. 😂
@FrankyRedEyes
@FrankyRedEyes 10 күн бұрын
I work in the plastics industry. Some plastics are harder and more durable than thinly stamped metal plus plastic doesn't rust. We, as midnight shift machine operators, were throwing our test run parts (NOT Ford parts) as hard as we could against brick walls with zero issues. Couldn't break chip or shatter our parts. And that's before QC got them 😂.
@theaveragewoodsman6002
@theaveragewoodsman6002 10 күн бұрын
Ford has the most recalls of ANY brand 3 years in a row.
@chris-qo1nt
@chris-qo1nt 10 күн бұрын
Toyota has built up a lot of brand capital that they’re cashing in with now
@marcg.3830
@marcg.3830 9 күн бұрын
@@chrisb9478 the 2.7 doesn’t use the plastic oil pan anymore and I would be surprised if the 3.0l does. Toyota uses plastic transmission pans also. So stop acting like Ford is the only automaker that uses plastic oil and transmission pans as many other automakers do.
@Chuffmaster654
@Chuffmaster654 9 күн бұрын
The tech bros of Boulder and Denver will love this!
@user-zv4zt5uc5b
@user-zv4zt5uc5b 8 күн бұрын
Here is a theory on Toyota’s high pricing; Toyota Corporation tired of distributors and dealers making money from unnecessary and unwanted accessories, including $4,000 “market adjustments”. So they have jacked up the MSRP on the vehicles to a level where distributors and dealers have no room to add “extras” and may have to even discount to move the inventory.
@donays8241
@donays8241 10 күн бұрын
I can't WAIT to see the MPG TEST ON THIS TRUCK.
@EdwardVarner
@EdwardVarner 10 күн бұрын
Car companies are smoking some good stuff when determining pricing these days.
@beexiong2995
@beexiong2995 10 күн бұрын
Talk to your government 😂
@qbanlink25
@qbanlink25 9 күн бұрын
@@beexiong2995 if you live here it's your government too pal, want to change it, vote Red this Nov otherwise put up or shut up.
@deedspm9
@deedspm9 9 күн бұрын
Don't buy them. But the people who can buy them still will and the prices will continue to soar
@JohnSmith-zi9or
@JohnSmith-zi9or 9 күн бұрын
Companies can't do anything about inflation. We voted for this. But hey, no more mean tweets.
@andyleo8418
@andyleo8418 9 күн бұрын
It's not crazy if it sells.
@frh-freerangehuman
@frh-freerangehuman 10 күн бұрын
Andre diligently changing the conversation away from sausage 😂
@BabakPA
@BabakPA 10 күн бұрын
I can’t believe how much they are charging people for these trucks! Oh and don’t forget to take your tablet when you leave😂😂
@originalname9999
@originalname9999 9 күн бұрын
With these prices Nissan would be stupid to not jump all over that 35k-45k segment. As of now if i was in the market for this sized truck that pro4x would looking really good. Luckily I got my TRD off road in 2020 for 34k and does everything I expect From it.
@marks7311
@marks7311 8 күн бұрын
Loved the video and enjoy the informal and impromptu vids. Keep em coming, great work
@TheThewulasvegas
@TheThewulasvegas 4 күн бұрын
I own a 2012 TRD Tacoma. I paid $26K out the door Feb 2017. 50k miles on the odometer. Today’s prices are insane.
@Axsel85
@Axsel85 10 күн бұрын
I figured they would be priced around that but still was surprised😅
@crack_of_dawn
@crack_of_dawn 10 күн бұрын
Wow I was considering replacing my wife's 2021 TRD Off Road with a 2025 Pro but for that price I'd rather just switch her to a Ranger Raptor.
@paulm6481
@paulm6481 9 күн бұрын
said no one ever
@crack_of_dawn
@crack_of_dawn 9 күн бұрын
@@paulm6481 I literally said it, and meant it.
@Kid_with_an_Evo
@Kid_with_an_Evo 9 күн бұрын
I’ve seen those going for as much as $83k in Washington. Just depends on the dealer.
@Jeff-ib7wc
@Jeff-ib7wc 9 күн бұрын
Ford is absolute crepe compared to Toyota and you know it. Nice bluff though.
@crack_of_dawn
@crack_of_dawn 9 күн бұрын
@@Jeff-ib7wc Not a bluff at all. I don't have an allegiance to *any* car company. I don't own a Toyota, my wife does. She loved her previous ranger that she had for ~150k miles and would absolutely happy to jump back into one.
@mechmat12345
@mechmat12345 10 күн бұрын
The 4Runner is usually a few thousand more than the Taco which means the 4R TRD Pro will be pushing $70k which is the same price as the GX550 Overtrail, which is just a way better vehicle as far as i can tell.
@Tylander_
@Tylander_ 9 күн бұрын
Ya if you can wait 3 years to get a GX
@Elsuntan
@Elsuntan 7 күн бұрын
On your suggestion went in took a look at the GX550 and you are completely right, you get a ton more and a proven Prado origin. If you are in the 67,000 range you might as well go to 69,000.
@Lets-do-this-
@Lets-do-this- 10 күн бұрын
Maybe I’m cheep but I do not think a Tacoma should be more than the mid 50’s come on people Great video once again, guys
@Mylifeislegendary836.
@Mylifeislegendary836. 10 күн бұрын
You are not cheap oh no instead silly. This is a excellent mid size truck and worth its price. This is 2024 and not 1999
@270eman
@270eman 9 күн бұрын
Yeah that's why I got the 23 SR5 V6 4x4 . 41k. I am never going to need all that crap on the expensive trims and I can upgrade the suspension myself how I like for a few thousand. I really prefer the basic all paint matched style on the SR5 anyway. Looks like luxury in silver. I have seen 24 SR5s going for 43k. Thats the deal. Upgrade later if you want offroad crap.
@iskdude9922
@iskdude9922 9 күн бұрын
If ypu want the nice shit make more money....
@Keefer24
@Keefer24 3 күн бұрын
@@Mylifeislegendary836.70-73 k after mark ups with a big interest rate ? For a 4cyl mid size truck ? Just so all the posers can look cool going over the speed bumps in the Victoria secret parking lot 😂🤡
@Keefer24
@Keefer24 3 күн бұрын
@@iskdude9922Nice shit ? You’ll never be able to shame a real man into paying 70-73 k ( after Toyota markups) for a 4cyl mid size truck, I got my diesel cheaper than that. This is another Toyota poser truck, built for the wimps like you who don’t off road at all but want to look cool hitting the speed bumps in the complex you’re picking your wife’s boyfriend up from 😂🤡
@jasonpaiva4793
@jasonpaiva4793 10 күн бұрын
The shiny black plastics look funny, fender flares & bumper accents & hood scoop. I have a 22 TRD off-road w a plain hood, it has way better sight lines than a scooped hood. Great comparison Roman & Andre.
@redrider7730
@redrider7730 10 күн бұрын
They found out like most TRD 4Runner and Tacoma owners have, if you don't put some sort of a decal over that fake hood scoop on the hood you will be blinded all to heck at some point when the sun hits it perfectly. It's beyond annoying.
@71gmonet
@71gmonet 10 күн бұрын
If they are going glossy they may as well paint match or even better paint accenting like they used to do on the previous generation (not current) Limited 4 Runners. My favorite was a Limited grey metallic with the charcoal (not black) fender flares.
@jhb3711
@jhb3711 4 күн бұрын
Love the video guys! Lots of good information as always 👍
@brandonstewart7145
@brandonstewart7145 9 күн бұрын
Excellent video guys, i enjoy this format more than others and no music 😁
@zmotorpro
@zmotorpro 9 күн бұрын
I like the impromptu reviews. Thanks for the review and thanks for the payload numbers!
@LPM84.
@LPM84. 10 күн бұрын
Sorry to say this Andre, but the TRD PRO and the Trailhunter are not a close or direct ZR2 BISON competitor. Maybe a base ZR2, and Ford Raptor Competitor. -No factory front locker. - 33s not 35s factory installed. -less lift/ground clearance/Aproach/departure ect..ect. Toyota as well as other manufacturers have priced these trucks out of the relm of what most people will ever pay for a midsized truck.
@fernandopuga6906
@fernandopuga6906 10 күн бұрын
And the ZR2 Bison still is 5k cheaper
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 9 күн бұрын
@@fernandopuga6906and MADE IN THE USA
@kx8960
@kx8960 8 күн бұрын
Not even directly comparable to a "regular" ZR2 (like the 2024 I just bought), as the Tacoma STILL doesn't have a front locker.
@LPM84.
@LPM84. 8 күн бұрын
@@kx8960 I understand that. But it is the closest.
@rickeycooley9139
@rickeycooley9139 7 күн бұрын
@@fernandopuga6906 what is the price, you never said?
@CoopaCoop
@CoopaCoop 8 күн бұрын
TRD off roads and pros pricing is getting totally crazy. Give me a off road with just heated seats and a bed liner for 40k out the door and it'll be the number one selling truck on the market. They can keep all the other fancy controls/cameras/technology that is driving the price through the roof.
@donleamon8653
@donleamon8653 9 күн бұрын
63k just affirms my decision to repower my beloved 80 Series with an LT swap. She's already built, locked, new leather. For less than 30k I should be able to have way more power, better fuel milage and have enough left over to do a decent re-squirt of the exterior.
@AdventureBraten01
@AdventureBraten01 10 күн бұрын
This was probably already on the works, but I’m so glad you guys made this video (after I commented asking for it)
@LivingRetirement
@LivingRetirement 10 күн бұрын
Prices are INSANE!!! I was contemplating the TrailHunter, but must say big time "NO". I much rather get the LC250 LandCruiser in a few years once hopefully markups are gone.
@alromero5685
@alromero5685 6 күн бұрын
You can drive to a further dealer for a no mark up Land Cruiser.
@LivingRetirement
@LivingRetirement 6 күн бұрын
@@alromero5685 that is what I am doing once I am ready to buy, absolutely!!! Once I decide when and what.
@alromero5685
@alromero5685 6 күн бұрын
@@LivingRetirement 😎👍 My man!
@lbjailer
@lbjailer 10 күн бұрын
Nice trucks, but I like the ZR2 or Raptor better.
@JordanMadera
@JordanMadera 10 күн бұрын
I am pretty sure the 4Runner TRD Pro and Trailhunter will be as pricey if not more. That price makes me consider a Land Cruiser 250 series as a serious option.
@JPEBeard
@JPEBeard 10 күн бұрын
Might as well go with a Lexus GX than a Land cruiser!
@mechmat12345
@mechmat12345 10 күн бұрын
For $65k I'll definitely take a Land Cruiser. Best balance of off road, efficiency and comfort imo. I assume the 4Runner TRD Pro will be pushing $70k, and I'd definitely take the GX Overtrail at that price.
@Jeff-ib7wc
@Jeff-ib7wc 9 күн бұрын
Land Cruiser has like 8.5” ground clearance. The GX Overtrail has 8.7”. You get 11” on the Trailhunter model WITH a factory warranty!
@JPEBeard
@JPEBeard 9 күн бұрын
@@Jeff-ib7wcDon't you get a V6 with the GX?
@makadocious1975
@makadocious1975 10 күн бұрын
Not even a front locker for 63k wtf...and front and rear locker is the best thing to have... also just think of the 15k markups that they will tack on also
@ennispep
@ennispep 10 күн бұрын
Toyota made the price so high dealers are going to have a hard time taking on markup cause nobody going to want to pay 5k to 10k extra on this vehicle there's so many options for that price like a f150 raptor or chevy silverado zr2
@TeXasDadBod
@TeXasDadBod 10 күн бұрын
I was waiting for you guys to show how much roomier the back seat on the trailhunter is 😅 !
@originalname9999
@originalname9999 9 күн бұрын
Same as their current test rig in the Off Road Trim.
@Constipatedoverlord
@Constipatedoverlord 10 күн бұрын
At my dealer (socal) we got a prototype tacoma come in for trouble codes. It wasnt anything serious, grille shutter, because we assumed it was from the offroading they were doing. It was thoroughly dirty and could tell they had taken it through some decent water. Truck was plenty muddy. They seem alright. Nothing to lose your mind over.
@Jeff-ib7wc
@Jeff-ib7wc 9 күн бұрын
By 2028 they will have these absolutely sorted and bulletproof. Until then- Have fun early adopter Guinea pigs!
@guentherwilke2055
@guentherwilke2055 9 күн бұрын
Nice to see the comparison between the top off-road trims. Hopefully we’ll get a comparison between the OR and TH or Pro soon.
@KemApak
@KemApak 7 күн бұрын
Love it, great video, thank you guys! They are almost the same price as Land Cruiser / Land Cruiser. So what is the real difference? Is it just style?
@Queensizemusic
@Queensizemusic 9 күн бұрын
Great job! I love the new roofline on all of these. I’m thinking I’d like the Pro for the extra grand.
@michaelneild5133
@michaelneild5133 9 күн бұрын
I LIKE THIS STYLE OF VIDEO! YOU GUYS DID A GOOD JOB! I THINK THAT I WOULD GO WITH THE TRAIL HUNTER ALSO! VERY ENJOYABLE VIDEO
@kurtburkhardt5862
@kurtburkhardt5862 10 күн бұрын
I will get the TrailHunter 4Runner once it has been out for a while. Have a 5th gen with a Old Man Emu 3" lift and 33" Baja Boss tires. Nice Toyota is going with them.
@michaelderby1655
@michaelderby1655 10 күн бұрын
"Those bumpers and components can be added to other Tacomas". Cue the lower trim owners telling everybody their lesser trimmed Tacos are "just as good as a trail hunter" because they bought a bumper.
@CraigG21
@CraigG21 10 күн бұрын
The Trailhunter trim is for Overlanding; says right on the Toyota website. Prices on the TRD-Pro & Trailer are 😱 What were the actual payload numbers on these vehicles? I know what the website says... The turbo noise in the raised air intake would get old really quick. Great info in this vid - thanks.
@damien7881
@damien7881 10 күн бұрын
COULD YOU GUYS DO THAT TEST (TRAILHUNTER VS BISON)
@cartopia6161
@cartopia6161 9 күн бұрын
The isodynamic seats should be an option, that way one could get this trim at a cheaper price.
@mramseyISU
@mramseyISU 7 күн бұрын
I had been planning on getting a trd pro. Then I started seeing more and more pictures of how they killed the rear seat room. I’ve got kids to haul around so I want a usable back seat. I finally decided I was out and ended up getting a hybrid tundra with the trd off road package. I’m pretty sure I’m not really missing out.
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 9 күн бұрын
Sounds like the arb snorkel on my diesel JT. ❤
@hugoarreola5797
@hugoarreola5797 9 күн бұрын
Keeping my 21 TRD Pro Lunar Rock for a long time😌😎
@fscottgray9784
@fscottgray9784 10 күн бұрын
Trail hunter would be my pick but the interior still looks pretty tight for anyone over 6 foot tall.
@hollahabibi1897
@hollahabibi1897 10 күн бұрын
The EXTREME!!!!! Dudes from Harold and Kumar would love this truck
@mnyhomie
@mnyhomie 9 күн бұрын
Wait, was that a pterodactyl?
@MrJosh56040
@MrJosh56040 8 күн бұрын
Would LOVE to see a video of blueberry vs the Off-Road Hybrid with premium package. Plus I'm struggling to make a purchasing decision between those two so it'd help 😅
@tbm275
@tbm275 10 күн бұрын
Do the ventilated seats on the Tacoma vent to the back and base of the seat, or just the base? I'm interested in the TRD-Off Road with premium package for the vented seats but no point in them if they only cool the base of the seat and not the back. Was really disappointed by the new Ridgeline Black edition that only had the vented seat base and not the back.
@jlaw1901
@jlaw1901 10 күн бұрын
Andre, I really want to see the hybrid on the Ike. I’m curious how regen braking will effect downhill performance
@DuyenNguyen-ui6mo
@DuyenNguyen-ui6mo 9 күн бұрын
What I like about Toyota and most car manufacturers for that matter is that they have a trim that fits your budget.
@markbrackenhoff1676
@markbrackenhoff1676 10 күн бұрын
I make enough to afford this truck, but there is zero chance I'd buy it at that price. Would rather buy the TRD Off-Road and add 2-3" lift, 33's, better shocks, additional skid plates, and still save 12-15k. Less power? Sure, but folks who've driven the non-hybrid Tacoma say it's a very good powertrain.
@yesq
@yesq 9 күн бұрын
You can get TRD off road hybrid soon
@ragnarmagnusson4305
@ragnarmagnusson4305 10 күн бұрын
Where’s the 1700 lbs. of payload we were promised? My Maverick Tremor has more payload (1250 lbs.). Last week, at the Ford dealer, I saw a 2024 Ranger 4x4 with 1699 lbs. of payload. I like this video format. Thanks for all the great videos and keep up the good work.
@kabloosh699
@kabloosh699 10 күн бұрын
If payload matters get a lesser trim.
@jasonjac123
@jasonjac123 10 күн бұрын
Exactly. Toyota kept quoting 1700 for trail hunter and it was complete BS.
@redrider7730
@redrider7730 10 күн бұрын
That payload went into hauling around batteries, motors and never ending extra components that will need a whole lot more service and dealer only maintenance.
@keithcrandall1369
@keithcrandall1369 10 күн бұрын
1250 pounds of payload actually isn’t too bad for the Trail hunter….but yeah, not even close to 1700lbs
@jimsomerville3924
@jimsomerville3924 10 күн бұрын
@@kabloosh699 the TrailHunter is supposed to be the "overlander" which needs payload to carry all the over-priced camping junk. And the lower trims are still only around 1200 lb capacity. So the promised ratings were a marketing lie.
@jguil4d
@jguil4d 5 күн бұрын
Here’s a thing I’d like to see you check: will a backwards facing car seat fit in the rear seat? Admittedly, not all car seats are equal, but some of those things take up a lot a room, and if these vehicles are going to be family haulers, then that matters.
@lunamaria1048
@lunamaria1048 9 күн бұрын
The TRD Pro didn't lift a wheel even once lol. Overtrail did pretty quick. The Pro articulation was excellent. I'd buy the Pro, if I were buying either
@theguy9234
@theguy9234 9 күн бұрын
I'll just get a frontier pro 4x for 40k$ instead. Don't need to spend 30k MORE for overlanding and mid level off roading. Got my 4runner 21 TRD OR 1 year ago for 38k$
@qdog494
@qdog494 9 күн бұрын
For 9k more I ordered a F 350 power stroke XLT FX4. Those tacos are crazy expensive….but yes they hold their value well
@jasonhill2180
@jasonhill2180 9 күн бұрын
A mans work truck! And your turbo will sound so much better! 6.7 turbo whistle is sweet. So is the Dodge though.
@qdog494
@qdog494 9 күн бұрын
@@jasonhill2180 absolutely. For me the XLT gives me just enough tech without going overboard
@sammyjammy6647
@sammyjammy6647 9 күн бұрын
I just started rolling on the floor laughing. I was imagining a scenario where Andre said he’s going to move his seat back an inch more while Roman was sitting behind him in the Pro . Roman says no don’t go back anymore and then Andre responds, Go back more? Proceeds to split Roman legs wide open tearing a hole in Roman’s pants in the crotch area. Roman cries in anguish and says, ARRRGGGGHHH FUQQ U ANDREEEEE! 😅
@reptoid7340
@reptoid7340 9 күн бұрын
This is great news! I guess I will keep my 2nd gen for another 10 more years until the market cools off. I’m in no hurry.
@stanr3491
@stanr3491 9 күн бұрын
Glossy Black fender flares on an Offroad Truck? What was the designer thinking?!?! 😮
@michaelmclovin5098
@michaelmclovin5098 9 күн бұрын
Realistically, 99.999pct of these vehicles will never be off-roaded, for the 0.0001pct that do, they can afford new fenders.
@kx8960
@kx8960 8 күн бұрын
...that they look good all Armor-All'd up as you Crawl the Mall like most of them will?🤣
@kevink2069
@kevink2069 10 күн бұрын
Will the off road have the hybrid option soon? I just don’t see a justification on getting the high level trims at this point when the extra money can go into some actual good custom mods.
@omardevonlittle3817
@omardevonlittle3817 10 күн бұрын
it sounds like a shop vac lmao
@redrider7730
@redrider7730 10 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same, that's not a car sound or anything I would want to hear for any length of time.
@bradj9870
@bradj9870 10 күн бұрын
The last turbo I had that made that sound was about to go bad...
@beexiong2995
@beexiong2995 10 күн бұрын
Dummies. All turbo engines make this sound. Just depends on how much muffling is done to the airbox
@joshuarittenhouse4938
@joshuarittenhouse4938 6 күн бұрын
You guys should test these on the Everglades. They all seem to be built with similar specs. The Bronco is a ranger frame anyway 🤙
@doc.christopherthompson324
@doc.christopherthompson324 3 күн бұрын
It's Good that Trail Hunter doesn't have a sunroof, because of upcoming hail storms & gonna be way easier to replace front windshield then a not necessary moon roof. I've always liked sitting on my 1982 & then 1993 Tacomas & then 1996 T100 roof top at the beach surf fishing. Fishing rod holders on front and back bumps, depending on my preference. Great ta be able to take naps in the 6ft. open truck's bed. Just one of the reasons i haven't got a Jeep yet. Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha, ❤
@FrogKingGreat
@FrogKingGreat 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for pricing… looks like I’m sticking with my Bowtie, going to get my daughter the ZR2 Colorado. I’ve always been a Chevy guy for 30 years. Wanted to venture out and get my daughter a TACO but ZR2 pricing is better
@derrickkekeli8262
@derrickkekeli8262 9 күн бұрын
With that price. Buy the LC250 and use the change for offroad tyres and bash plates in future when you retire and want to go full time offroading
@SaltShack
@SaltShack 7 күн бұрын
As a long time viewer and off and on Patreon Patron who only watches Trucks and Off-Road content I have to say and please forgive me, Mr. Mica, Roman, has become a distraction in many respects and I much prefer watching Andre, Tommy and Nathan. But, “it’s good to be the king”
@secerator
@secerator 9 күн бұрын
So what else is different other than the seats, snorkel, bed size, shocks, rock bar? Any difference in the tech package and off road functions?
@DerFledderer
@DerFledderer 8 күн бұрын
I like this style of video
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 9 күн бұрын
Notice on the white vehicle sticker, the Rear Axle Capacity (RAWR) is falsely reduced to 3475 lbs. The real max rating for that 9.5" axle is likely about 4500 lbs.
@JoshHallingse
@JoshHallingse 10 күн бұрын
Love these. Wish they were a tad roomier in the cab.
@zygmuntziokowski7877
@zygmuntziokowski7877 6 күн бұрын
I like the trailer-header also.
@franzvanjulio5523
@franzvanjulio5523 9 күн бұрын
I enjoy the impromptu reviews.
@Random_Vince
@Random_Vince 10 күн бұрын
Great video!! I saw all of it. Can yall please make this video you spoke about on 30:08
@literaticzar
@literaticzar 9 күн бұрын
65k+tax+interest+insurance+mark-ups+gas increases! You can't afford it, American serfs, but Zelenzky can. LMAO!
@mnyhomie
@mnyhomie 9 күн бұрын
I dunno that snorkel blow off valve sound is cool for maybe 1 day
@steffencave9363
@steffencave9363 8 күн бұрын
Can you disable the proximity warnings, or will you get beeped at every time you approach an obstacle?
@rogerjohnson2515
@rogerjohnson2515 8 күн бұрын
Great video, a lot of hard to answer questions . I think the TRD Off Road is better spent money.
@marshallkroening
@marshallkroening 10 күн бұрын
These look sick. Also loving this style of video guys!
@aham3476
@aham3476 9 күн бұрын
Like the style of video. Trail hunter looks sweet!
@roush243
@roush243 9 күн бұрын
I really want to see a comparison of the new Ranger Raptor and the Maverick Tremor (since there is no Ranger Tremor) in the dunes. These 2 vehicles really share the same customer base, wanting a small Ford truck that is very offroad capable. Please, if you do this can you include the MSRP and come up with a cost-value comparison for them.
@brentbacon6148
@brentbacon6148 10 күн бұрын
Is there any storage left under the backseat, when you have the Hybrid?
@HectorAguayo98
@HectorAguayo98 10 күн бұрын
No that’s where the battery is
@StlrNtn95
@StlrNtn95 9 күн бұрын
Crazy that we paid either 46k or 48k for my wife's 2020 Tacoma TRD Pro. Almost 20k 4 years later is absolutely crazy!
@Ruben-dr4yi
@Ruben-dr4yi 9 күн бұрын
Im betting after 2 days you wanna tear those isodinamik seats the hell out of the TRD PRO😂
@LetMeCook86
@LetMeCook86 8 күн бұрын
$70K and you get the same amount of rear seat vents as a subcompact segment ….ZERO VENTS!
@Mario-lj7gm
@Mario-lj7gm 10 күн бұрын
The reviews so far in general are not great for what you’re paying. I think the value of my 23 TRD Pro just went up.
@llpp202
@llpp202 9 күн бұрын
Old used trucks will continue to increase in value with these new prices.
@tedwarkentin2211
@tedwarkentin2211 Күн бұрын
So, which suspension felt better on the same trail? The Fox on TRD Pro or Old Man Emu on Trailhunter?
@mueldaddy
@mueldaddy 8 күн бұрын
Can you guys talk about how the hybrid works. Can it be defeated? Is there certain drive settings that will defeat it like running in 4 wheel drive high or in Sport mode? Etc…
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