Very interesting, and informative. I like these comparisons
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
hope you find some new faves!
@barendhechter56982 жыл бұрын
Oh and Kings of the wyld.
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
I actually really hated that book 🥲
@edsheeran12432 жыл бұрын
This might be a hot take, but I feel like if Joe Abercrombie started writing non-grimdark slice of life stories in a low fantastical setting, he would literally be Robin Hobb
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
haha yeah kinda
@amoura95862 жыл бұрын
Blackwing sounds AMAZING!!!
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
that's because it is 😌
@tawnyman2 жыл бұрын
As a massive Robin Hobb fan who has been reading the First Law for the first time, I have been noticing a lot of similarities between the two as well. The Liveship Traders particularly comes to mind because of the character dynamics, plus Kennit is kind of like an Abercrombie pov (though maybe even darker?)
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
yeah, throughout my Liveship read I kept saying Kennit felt very First Law to me
@robertpihl35562 жыл бұрын
Blackwing has been on my tbr for some time and I am lokking forward to read it and its going to be fantastic.
@spencercorpuz2 жыл бұрын
Liene you've gotta read Holly Tinsley's We Men of Ash and Shadow. Everything I was looking for in First Law I found in her book. It is a perfect Grimdark book, that is not just edgey and dark for the sake of it. It really feels like a real story
@currangill4302 жыл бұрын
I have Hobb in crosshair. But I heard she's grim and I'm taking a grim dark break. I read the first page and a half on my kindle and I already love her prose and this is coming from someone who despises first person. So, I can already tell she's a great storyteller. If she can make me like her first person narrative I'm in for a treat!
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
yeah, her stories have a lot of dark and tragic things, but she's not "grimdark"
@currangill4302 жыл бұрын
@@LienesLibrary Just grim?
@currangill4302 жыл бұрын
It's ironic I just made a First Law poll about the stand-alone books. 26 votes for Best Served Cold 18 votes for Heroes 8 votes for Red Country
@ducky36F2 жыл бұрын
Yeah looks about right
@currangill4302 жыл бұрын
@@ducky36F It got bigger: 96= Best Served Cold 59= Heroes 35= Red Country I just didn't like the Heroes at all. I didnt' really like the characters apart from Calder and Finree. Gorst was annoying with his obsession over Finree, I didn't care at all about Tunny, Craw's chapters were only good when it featured Black Dow, Wonderful or Shivers, Beck was alright it was interesting to see a warrior kid not follow his father's footsteps. I was glad when the book was over lol. On the other hand I liked Red Country way more than the Heroes.
@currangill4302 жыл бұрын
@@ducky36F BSC is surging! 103 vs 63 vs 35. Best Served Cold is the best stand alone book you have to be realistic about these things.
@BasalThor2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! You have sold me on By Force Alone, that sounds really interesting. Hobb and American Gods were already on my tbr. I think I have a pretty good Idea which scene in raven's cry you were talking about. That was indeed horrifying...
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
I think there's a strong chance you'll enjoy all of those! and Ravencry....yeah, it's so messed up
@BasalThor2 жыл бұрын
@@LienesLibrary Adding it to the ever growing tbr !
@archlectoryarvi28732 жыл бұрын
If you've ever wondered what Abercrombie's books would read like if he were an American Horror novelist, look no further than Christopher Buehlman. Both of their works are very cynical in tone but with lots of dark humor, entertaining dialogue and characters that you simultaneously love and despise. The Lesser dead or Between Two Fires is a great place to start the Buehlman experience.
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
I read The Blacktongue Thief and quite enjoyed it and I think I previously put Between Two Fires on my wishlist? or added it as to-read? that one rings a bell anyway
@archlectoryarvi28732 жыл бұрын
@@LienesLibrary Haven't read The Blacktongue Thief yet but I've been slowly making my way through all of his horror books and it's been a blast. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
@angelaholmes88882 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love American gods I read that book in one day great read 🙂💯🌟
@artbyandia2 жыл бұрын
Given that Realm of the Elderlings is my favourite series and First Law is my second that is a good recommendation. I read Hobb first and then Abercrombie on the same year I finished the series. "The Folding Knife" by K.J. Parker is reminding me a bit of Abercrombie. I haven't read his other books.
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
I'm very interested in reading Folding Knife
@PonderingsOfPete2 жыл бұрын
You should definitely read KJ Parker's other works. His novellas and the one novel I've read of his (the Folding knife) have that humor, but not to the extent of 16 ways
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
I did previously read Prosper's Demon and really enjoyed it so I definitely plan to read more from him
@joelindley51132 жыл бұрын
Started Seven Blades in Black by Sam Sykes. I've noticed it has the same irreverent, snarky humour. Only about 200 pages but I'm enjoying it so far
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
I originally planned to read that, but what we learned about the author's behavior in real life put me (personally) off ever wanting to read from him which is a shame because it sounded up my alley
@phen0menos2 жыл бұрын
Re: "Hobb is not grimdark because of the perspectives, Abercrombie would take those terrible characters and make them POVs" - while this is broadly true, I think Hobb proves she's just as capable of writing the despicable POVs with Kennet!
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
I have frequently said that Kennit is the most Abercrombie-esque thing I've read from her so far
@osoisko19332 жыл бұрын
By force alone I shall read these books! And I too like the Abercrombie-esque Grimdark rather than try hard slaughterfests.
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
"try-hard slaughterfests" lol accurate
@floydwilliams4972 жыл бұрын
I know you said you weren't very familiar with King Arthur and the whole round table story, and for that matter neither am I, but I am curious as to whether or not you've ever heard about Tracy Deonn's Legendborn? If so, do you have a review on it, because I would love to watch it.👍🏿
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
my friend Heather really wants me to read that so it'll probably happen one of these days 😋
@floydwilliams4972 жыл бұрын
@@LienesLibrary You'll be glad you did, but don't rush yourself, book 2 is due out Nov. 8th, so feel free to procrastinate just a little while longer, that way when you actually see what the fuss is about, you won't have to wait like the rest of us.
@nickywal2 жыл бұрын
Blackwing was one of my top 5 books last year, I really need to get to the rest of the trilogy. By force alone was just so odd, but a lot of fun to read. It is relatively true to the older myths, rather than the later more Christian, puritanical versions but obviously twisted and a lot darker
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
Blackwing is SO good and yeah, By Force Alone is quite odd but imo a good odd
@joelindley51132 жыл бұрын
I second the Raven's Mark trilogy. The gillings would fit right into a horror story. Ed McDonald has recently recovered from illness and it's great that he's back writing again. I'll definitely be getting Daughter of Redwinter. About the time GoT came out on TV there was an Arthurian show called Camelot which only ran for one season. Very dark and gritty. Eva Green was Morgaine and Joseph Fiennes was a very morally grey Merlin, especially in the show's retelling of the Lady in the Lake myth
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
I have the box set of Camelot haha - I didn't like the actor who played Arthur but Green as Morgana and Fiennes as Merlin *chefs kiss*
@nickywal2 жыл бұрын
Literally the darlings are creepier than most straight up horror book monsters I've seen
@angelaholmes88882 жыл бұрын
The song of ice and fire is definitely similar even though it's been years since I read the series 🤔👍
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
yeah, there's a reason they get compared so much
@ducky36F2 жыл бұрын
First Law and Farseer are my two favourite series. I’d throw the Witcher novels and Empire of the Vampire in as being quite similar to Abercrombie, although neither Sapkowski nor Kristoff’s writing styles are for everyone. But the wit and cynicism in their stories greatly reminds me of Abercrombie.
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
I like Witcher, haven't read EotV yet (can't say I'm looking forward to it though, honestly) but I don't really find Sapkowski or Kristoff to be that reminiscent of Abercrombie, personally
@ducky36F2 жыл бұрын
@@LienesLibrary its the way the two authors use humour and irony along with the darker tone and character focus that makes me think of Abercrombie with them. However they do have rather, unique, writing styles so I do get people not liking them.
@coleton70482 жыл бұрын
You NEED to read Beyond Redemption by Michael R. Fletcher. I'm 90% certain it would be a 5 star read for you. And 10% certain it won't be anything less than 4 stars. I tell everyone it's like Abercrombie if he wrote while tripping on acid. Please read it. You read like 17 books a month, can you please fit it in soon? I want to hear your thoughts on it. :)
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
perhaps one day 🙃
@zacturf-n-sports6203 Жыл бұрын
That was a great series. I really enjoyed it!
@thisandthat4182 жыл бұрын
The only problem i have with you comparing Abercrombie to Hobb, is that although i think Abercrombie writes brilliant characters that i am interested in and like reading about, i am not emotionally invested in them much at all. Where as The Tawny Man trilogy and The Fitz and the Fool trilogy wrecked me the first, second and third times i read them....😢😢😢
@LienesLibrary2 жыл бұрын
hope you enjoy!
@angelaholmes88882 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I didn't enjoy the tv adaptation of American gods I watched the first two episodes and I didn't enjoy the show 😬😖