Brilliant device and idea. Great video! We had electronics as a part of shop class at age of 15 or so. Teacher gave us PCBs and components for an astable multivibrator based horn and told us "You've seen where the soldering irons are". If there was a problem, teacher's only solution was "Either you didn't follow the instructions or soldering isn't good enogh. Go do something about it.". Sure thing, soldering wasn't good enough because teacher didn't tell us how to solder. Out of 20 kids, maybe one or two accidentally made few decent solder joints. Everyone had to do some resoldering because either the device didn't work at all, or malfunctioned. That doesn't really encourage kids to start playing with electronics, unlike that micro:bit kit! Such a small board, but it has many things kids can play with even without adding any extra hardware. Included tutorials and that block programming thingy seems like perfect way to begin learning programming.
@saturn5tony8 жыл бұрын
That is the greatest thing that can be done for young kids....so cool!
@saturn5tony8 жыл бұрын
Thx 4 sharing!
@EinerDerAnderen8 жыл бұрын
An accelerometer is indeed just for measuring translational accelerations. For measuring angular rates you would need a gyroscope. There are cases where both of these two inertial measurement units have been combined in one device, but usually you would realize them as two dedicated MEMS structures.
@nThanksForAllTheFish8 жыл бұрын
Julian, the accelerometer when it's not being jerked around will measure the magnitude of gravity vector relative to it's 3 orthogonal sensing axes. So, each waveform should read between +1g to -1g when the board is rotated in a way that causes that axis to point from up to down. A 3-axis gyro on the other hand would measure rate of rotation in say yaw, pitch and roll. Forgive me if you already know this.
@AdamWelchUK8 жыл бұрын
It's a great device and a well meaning initiative. However unfortunately the distribution and supply to schools hasn't lived up to expectation. In my own school we haven't seen the device as yet and the year is quickly coming to an end - and planning for next years curriculum is almost complete as well. :-(
@andrewtimms42998 жыл бұрын
It would be helpful to know the date when the school children will receive theirs so I can buy one on Ebay the week following.
@proyectosledar8 жыл бұрын
very good initiative
@Educ8s6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Julian. I just got mine! In my opinion, this little board is fantastic for people just starting to program!
@Motorman21128 жыл бұрын
Every 11 year old? Surely the vast majority of these will end up in the bin or in the back of drawers, why not make them available for anyone from 10-14 (for example) who applies for one? That would get more of them into the hands of people who actually want them without so much waste.
@nThanksForAllTheFish8 жыл бұрын
Presumably, they'll make it part of the Yr 7 curriculum.
@Ts64518 жыл бұрын
I suspect the reason for distributing them to everyone is to give all children some basic understanding of coding, and to inspire some of those that currently have no interest(or who do not know they might find it interesting), and so would never apply if it was by application only, to get into coding.
@strawberryjin1555 жыл бұрын
When I was in year 7 we used these but I never got to keep one 🙁
@TaiViinikka8 жыл бұрын
Blockly and Scratch are the real winners here. These languages function like Lego does for structural engineering. Judging from my 8 year old, the barriers to programming language are about syntax. Kids can quite easily understand loops, conditionality, variables -- the problem (at first) is debugging syntax errors. Once you get past "at first," you're already hooked. I hope the microbit will serve as a physical invitation for kids to start trying stuff with the block-oriented languages.
@DavidWatts8 жыл бұрын
Glad you got it mate.
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
I did, and it's all thanks to you :)
@DavidWatts8 жыл бұрын
Julian Ilett Ha ha, you would have found a way to get one eventually.
@andymouse8 жыл бұрын
can I have one please?
@MishuuuTheWah8 жыл бұрын
this is really cool i wish i was a kid again haha. i live in Canada and i wish we could introduce this to the schools here. we were experimenting with drone delivery here for amazon in the okanagan. but this would be amazing, so jealous.
@HPDecals8 жыл бұрын
Hello Julian, I just want to thank you for your great electronics videos. You have actually inspired me to get back into (micro)electronics Your postbag videos are not only very entertaining but also provide great training for learning the different components on the circuit boards and how they are suppose to behave and interact in a circuit. It is much easier for me to learn like this versus out of a book. So thanks again and keep up the great work!
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary - much appreciated :)
@DavidWatts8 жыл бұрын
I think the key factor here for kids will be them being able to interact with their micro:bit using their phones. I have fond memories of the BBC Micro and I hope in the years to come kids will look back and feel the same about the BBC micro:bit.
@aptsys8 жыл бұрын
Doubtful.
@DavidWatts8 жыл бұрын
Dr. Lecter What are you doubtful of? My opinion in general or was it something specific?
@aptsys8 жыл бұрын
That kids will look back on this and think it was worthwhile. Seems like a pointless waste of our money when they could be using something more mainstream.
@theandnewman8 жыл бұрын
It's a regular 3-way accelerometer, it measures acceleration in X, Y and Z plane, that means left-right, forward-backward and up-down. If you lift it rapidly you should see the blue line go down (or maybe up) and then if you move it down quickly it goes the other way, and you should stop the movement slowly.
@theandnewman8 жыл бұрын
Tilt, yaw and roll acceleration is measured with a 6-way accelerometer.
@dumle298 жыл бұрын
It's an accelerometer. It meassures g forces, not movement. in resting, there'll be 1g down, and 0 g on the two horizontal axis. Say Z is vertical, and X and Y is the horizontal planes. The red and green lines reacted, because you rotated those axis towards the gravity, so they read more.
@BernhardHofmann8 жыл бұрын
The problem my son had with scratch (a block editor) is that the program quickly becomes unwieldy as it grows. Text based code really isn't that much more difficult and it has the benefit of being comparable with previous versions of the code (you are using source control aren't you). What might be nice is something that produces the text code from the block sketches so that simple sketches can be understood in text and then taken further.
@user-gr5do8nk7e8 жыл бұрын
11-year old kids in the UK are really really lucky!
@boltactionpiano73658 жыл бұрын
Accelerometers measure acceleration. Gravity causes acceleration and so that is why it measures you rotating it, it's affecting each of the 3 axis (each line) differently. A gyroscopic sensor is what you were testing. If you shake it in each axis., that will move each line.
@runnerup158 жыл бұрын
The companies producing the parts for these units have the potential to make so much moneyyy. I should start an initiative like this in the US
@stryk1878 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've heard of this lil dev board, but I was completely unaware that they're giving them free to EVERY kid in the country, that's incredible! Good on them, that is actually a great initiative, and with the ages these days being less-unfavorable to hackers/makers/"geeks" than they used to be, the kids might actually be interested in this thing, and actually USE it! Good times, for sure. Any estimates on how many units that will take to cover every kid in the UK?
@The4Crawler8 жыл бұрын
Great video. I can just see the headlines now, "Student uses a micro:bit to hack into the BBC computer center" :)
@azyfloof8 жыл бұрын
That block editor is _very_ reminiscent of the old Lego Mindstorms RIS editor software :D It's a good tool to rapidly get shit done. Is that a Triforce on the BBC manual? And of course the ask you _really_ should be questioning yourself; do you need a TV license to use one of these? (Due, of course, to the unique way in which the BBC is funded :P )
@pcuser808 жыл бұрын
Just as in the eighties with the Acorn BBC micro. Great and fast computer. In these day its a little bit smaller.
@maicod8 жыл бұрын
cool board and good incentive to give it to all UK kids aged 11. From what I can see it works more as an Arduino with built in LED matrix than a Raspberry PI. Also very nice block-program-language !
@faultelectronica8 жыл бұрын
This is great. It would be brilliant if you could do a series of teaching tutorials for parents who want to teach their children programming the micro:bit. I don't think anybody else has done that yet.
@magnets10008 жыл бұрын
The three accelerometer values will be Roll, Pitch and an Up axis through Z, i.e. hold it level and lift up and down
@MrGnidlih8 жыл бұрын
I expected to see yet another centralized failed project but I was wrong. I must say I'm quite impressed. Great initiative.
@SurajGrewal8 жыл бұрын
it's accelerometer not gyroscope... it sees movement not rotation
@YensR8 жыл бұрын
indeed! Julian would have had to turn it on its side and then rotate around the formerly vertical axis (now horizontal) and he'd have seen gravity's effect on the third line.
@roybuitenhuis74658 жыл бұрын
Well, rotation creates g's as well as long if the center of rotation is not on the accelerometer. Besides movement, it should be able to measure gravity as well, so you can find out the angles relative to earth.
@SurajGrewal8 жыл бұрын
but yaw won't effect it significantly small radius of rotation thus small centrifugal force
@ConexSpot3 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent demonstration. Thank you.
@igotes8 жыл бұрын
Hard to tell how this will create "a nation of programmers". I was writing crappy BASIC programs on the BBC Micro at school when I was six or seven. Not because the school made me do it, but because I found it interesting. I got some Usborne books from the library and gave it a go. It annoyed me that the teachers forced me to go into the playground to "play" when I'd rather stay in the classroom and mess about with computers. Anyway, reminiscing aside, I think it's a good thing, and I'm glad the comments to this video aren't full of nonsense like "they should have just given them arduino/raspberry pi/whatever". Time will tell if it actually generates some interest in writing software.
@rapturas8 жыл бұрын
I work in a high school in the UK and we've not heard about this before.
@callumkingunderwood8 жыл бұрын
its an accelerometer, it only reads translations not rotations, you'll notice whenever you are tilting the device 2 bars are going because there is a change in 2 axis. A bit of trig between readings of 2 axis and you can use an accelerometer for reading angles of course, but otherwise you appear to be treating it as a gyroscope.
@acgandhi8 жыл бұрын
He is actually treating it like a accelerometer, since he moves it back and forth in an axis when he tests it.
@callumkingunderwood8 жыл бұрын
Amar Gandhi originally he tilts it while commenting he cant work out what the blue axis corresponds to
@surajbhawal24748 жыл бұрын
that 13 pound price tag is way to much... hey Julian do you know if they are planning to provide with schools of other countries a bit cheaply than that price tag?
@stuartthegrant8 жыл бұрын
A very nice idea, however perhaps a PI, or Arduino would have been better choices. Or with the experiance gained with the BBC mod B, a computer with keyboard and screen even better still. I know I am old fashioned and cost is a factor.So good luck BBC micro:bit I hope you encourage as many youngsters as did the model B.
@slap_my_hand8 жыл бұрын
4:52 wtf? Kodu and the BBC Micro? That sounds so fucking awesome. Why didn't i get something like this when i was 11 years old?
@ThatGuy-nv2wo8 жыл бұрын
The Pi seems more advanced with more possibilities. I was planning on getting one of these but seeing this makes me wonder what the advantage would be over the pi I already have, certainly this is geared towards beginners so you probably don't get very low level acces, which is just plain boring.
@mirageinthedesert54485 жыл бұрын
Luckily I was in year 7 when this was released I've bought some components and will be making a project on my programming channel
@VTF52528 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you've not seen block programming before. The first programming I did was Scratch in school. It can make rather basic games and such, but uses all block programming. I think they are borrowing code from scratch as the blocs look exactly like the scratch ones.
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
I went from BASIC to assembly language programming in the 80s. Then to PIC assembly language in the 90s. A bit of JavaScript, Java and PHP in the 00s. Then to C on the Arduino this decade.
@maicod8 жыл бұрын
I started with the VIC20 and learnt BASIC sitting on the ground in front of our CRT and later assembly (on the C64)
@EdCranium8 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to you doing more on the micro:bit. Mine's on order. The block editor is the same as "Scratch", the MIT project for the young. Here's their "Maze" program demo which demonstrates it's similarity. scratch.mit.edu/projects/10128431/#editor
@vinco18 жыл бұрын
Could you please show us all of your power banks in a video? I have burned my Xiaomi 10400mah one, so I'm looking for an replacement. I'll just deasemble the Xiaomi one, and use the batteries in another one. But it took me wery long to find, (and watch) some of your power bank reviews or postbags. Thank you for reading this comment.
@jhwieder21128 жыл бұрын
Hi, love your videos, all very informative. As a science teacher across the pond, is there a way that my school could purchase these, along with the teacher manual? As an aside, your "Arduino under $5" video prompted me to do the same next semester with my class. Regards from NY.
@txm1008 жыл бұрын
That bluetooth pairing war horribly complex.
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
It was fine until nothing happened and I was left wondering what to do. This app needs a few tweaks.
@kyoudaiken8 жыл бұрын
I realy don't like BlueTooth, because the range is crap. Even my 6 meters long living room is too much for it... Free air, connection lost. WTF? Adhoc WiFi please!
@MrGnidlih8 жыл бұрын
Not for an 11-year old:)
@TheKetsa8 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you would tell us what are those chips on the board ? As for this initiative : What is wrong with arduino ? not expensive enough ?
@RWoody19958 жыл бұрын
They need something they have control over i guess, easier to support it to have their own thing than to try and promote someone elses product and just make a kid friendly IDE for it.
@reggiebacci8 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought, to be honest, but from what Julian was saying - they wanted something bluetooth / Android / iphone compatible that didn't require a USB connection to a PC. As far as I can tell - the only Arduino board that might have fitted the bill was the old (and dead) ArduinoBT from 2006. That said, if you're gonna design a proprietary board anyway they could have mashed an HC-05 onto a pro-mini somehow.
@lonnymoore26227 жыл бұрын
the code bug also uses that kind of programing it is a blast too play with
@joebro3918 жыл бұрын
I think the shaking portion of the demo was meant to assimilate a pair of die haha
@BoomBrush8 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is kinda neat giving free units. Shame Australia doesn't do this :
@marekcoufal5708 жыл бұрын
is there any way to buy it in Czech republic?
@DocM2218 жыл бұрын
Will the microbit charge lithium battery packs itself?
@MarkTheMorose8 жыл бұрын
Needs more Fred Harris.
@mrjohhhnnnyyy57977 жыл бұрын
There's similar "block code" available for a while by now for android, I forgot how it's called though. But it looks very, very similar.
@tyttuut7 жыл бұрын
MrJohhhnnnyyy MIT App Creator?
@mrjohhhnnnyyy57977 жыл бұрын
The Tyttuutface Yes
@sourdoug8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can get one of these in the United States?
@iainmclaughlan15575 жыл бұрын
These are great, I love coding this. So much fun.
@SiskinOnUTube8 жыл бұрын
PiZero would have been a better cheap gift to the kids. But we shouldn't snipe at Santa. I do remember wishing I had a phone (landline) when I was a kid. Now it looks like - No computer/phone, then you have a "flashy thing". Maybe you can write code by post in that event.... Micro:bit BBC TV Wood Lane London W12 8QT
@uktoker718 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to see how it can interact with a Raspberry Pi 3 over Bluetooth.
@TheDutyPaid8 жыл бұрын
I bought mine from a kid on the bus for £5 lol
@robh19088 жыл бұрын
Is that the same Dr. Who BBC?
@pepper6698 жыл бұрын
I fixed all my crocodile clamps by sliding off the rubber sleeve, adding a bit of scotch magic tape around the bare clamp and sliding the sleeve back on.
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
I like that.
@leberkassemmel6 жыл бұрын
Well, BBC tried this many years ago with the BBC Micro.
@HarvssLadd8 жыл бұрын
There are tons of programming programs that use the block programming like Scratch and googles App Inventor. I think children should be pushed towards more actual coding. I never got to do this kind of stuff in secondary school and I've only just got to college!
@adamgretzinger9638 жыл бұрын
I wish my government was this forward thinking, what a great idea. I'm ordering a couple of these for myself and a few people.
@blackIce5048 жыл бұрын
That is so cool, i wish Australian Gov was forward thinking.
@michaelstevens6308 жыл бұрын
Goodness available for £13 The pi Zero and if add a few peripherals can come in under budget. I understand is a full solution but when backed by the BBC with a major £100 million pound and acknowledged IT project fail behind them does make me wonder a little "BIT"
@josipzlk80198 жыл бұрын
we played with those blocks in school before we started doing C
@barbadolid51708 жыл бұрын
Who is the maker this time, Acorn or Sinclair?
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
Great story: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jomlqYlsYt-Uo68
@VictorGarciaR8 жыл бұрын
great idea, but what about the teachers?? Every kid has one... but you need to teach coding to the teachers first ! Without the support this is useless
@triestelondon8 жыл бұрын
These are kids born in the 21st century, they've been using computers since they were 2 or 3. They need teachers, for this level of coding, as much as older generations needed teaching about Meccano or building Airfix kits.
@John_Ridley8 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. I work with high school students in FIRST Robotics, so it's already self-selected to tech oriented kids. "Using" computers means absolutely nothing when it comes to understanding or programming computers. Recent studies have shown that the current generation is actually LESS knowledgeable about the inner workings of computers than the last few generations. Computers have gotten to the point where they are appliances. You don't have to know how they work at all in order to use them, and most users (even young ones) haven't a clue what's inside or how they work. You may as well say that anyone born in the latter half of the 20th century grew up with cars, so clearly any of them can design an internal combustion engine, and can surely do an engine rebuild in their garage.
@sciisfun8 жыл бұрын
The graphical block coding looks a lot like scratch!
@nuclearthreat5458 жыл бұрын
the british broadcasting channel/company?
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
corporation
@techy41988 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was five years too early.
@PuchMaxi8 жыл бұрын
The Block programming reminds me of Lego Mindstorms!
@ElGatoLoco6988 жыл бұрын
I'd like one of those.
@IngoDingo8 жыл бұрын
this looks really interesting
@_Piers_8 жыл бұрын
I've yet to see a justifiable reason for this project to exist. It would surely have been better to get kids involved with Arduino, a custom board could have been made if they wanted added features onboard. It just seems too much like a very expensive, badly thought out vanity project.
@andymouse8 жыл бұрын
any project is better than no project
@rebelamerican66436 жыл бұрын
I know right? Bunch of communist cucks. I will be damned if MY hard working money will be used on my fellow countrymen. Thank god I live in the US. Trump would never allow such treasonous behavior!
@MrTimcakes8 жыл бұрын
Espruino also has Block programming like this, should check it out at espruino.com it runs on the Micro:Bit too
@datinniezaidi77548 жыл бұрын
Hey Julian,I wonder if You could do an Inverter project? hello :)
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I do have something like that coming up.
@datinniezaidi77548 жыл бұрын
Julian Ilett cool! Maybe do some experiments with that 400k Taser? Or did you throw it away? :)
@fuba448 жыл бұрын
+Julian Ilett don't the forget the MUPPET 😉😉
@mateorodriguez88036 жыл бұрын
Jawariu?
@budude27 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the reasoning behind using the edge connector at all - unless of course you spend more for the breakout... Why not use the regular .1 pins so common on basically every other SBC out there - - they work fine...
@quaxk8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the link between a public broadcaster and primary school education, so weird...
@EdCranium8 жыл бұрын
The BBC do all sorts of education including TV programs and special projects like this one. In 1982 they produced an educational computer for schools. I played my first game of "Elite" on one; when I should have been working... But it inspired me to do computing for a living.
@Bantam808 жыл бұрын
Not really. One of the 6 core objectives of the BBC's remit is to promote education and learning and another is to 'stimulate creativity'. I think the micro:bit falls squarely in that wheelhouse.
@nigeljames60178 жыл бұрын
The BBC has a long tradition of educating the young. They had a computer out probably twenty years ago that was sold cheaply to schools. You have to remember that both the Beeb and the schools (most of them anyway) are run by the state, hence educate as many as young as possible.
@Anvilshock8 жыл бұрын
What better way to smuggle in spy electronics than giving it away as a free toy.
@reggiebacci8 жыл бұрын
Knowing the BBC they'd only use it to determine whether the telly was on if you hadn't paid the extortion racket, erm, I mean TV licence.
@gyrozepelix6 жыл бұрын
We in croatia got it too
@hygkolk8 жыл бұрын
great video!
@ljmike12048 жыл бұрын
damn im 16 years to old ..... and dont live in the uk
@iainmclaughlan15575 жыл бұрын
ljmike1204 you can buy it on Amazon
@JUANKERR20008 жыл бұрын
When you pressed button 'B' why didn't you get your four pence back?
@DeeegerD8 жыл бұрын
13 pounds! Just order a Nano for $3
@eLJaybud8 жыл бұрын
Or a Pi Zero for $5. Much more useful than a BBC:bit.
@surajbhawal24748 жыл бұрын
+eLJaybud if you can get a hands on one.... what makes microbit awesome is that every kid gets it for free.
@eLJaybud8 жыл бұрын
I got one in the December. But yes I was going to pick up another one to find that the supply of them is terrible due to their massive popularity with it being in the range of kids pocket money.
@surajbhawal24748 жыл бұрын
+eLJaybud raspberry pi foundation should also do something like what BBC did... other than that... their excuse for lack of supply is that distributer are not purchasing in large quantities because there's not much profit in it.... I totally support that they should increase the price a dollar or two...and make the damn thing globally.... I mean rpi 3 is available in India which is launched way after pizero... also I've found a kind of alternative for pi zero.. its orange pi lite.. and its for just $10..I've ordered a couple of those off aliexpress...
@kyoudaiken8 жыл бұрын
Arduino Counterfeit with no accessories. Yeah, great deal. :D
@RobertaRoboter7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! You can also code the bbc micro:bit with the open-source #OpenRoberta Editor: which includes the micro:bit and other microboards and robots lab.open-roberta.org
@Designandrew8 жыл бұрын
they should have just given them all arduinos with a little kit
@vlee4898 жыл бұрын
Played with it for while before kids got it. Had to give my unit back and see the price, it is a bit over priced
@DJ_Cthulhu8 жыл бұрын
Suspect most of those 'free' MicroBits will end up in landfill with the UK taxpayer picking up the bill.
@DJ_Cthulhu8 жыл бұрын
Remember; In the kingdom of programmers, the plumber is king 🚽
@ParedCheese8 жыл бұрын
Ordered! 😁 (Just to evaluate it for my grandchildren.....honest.)
@nor42777 жыл бұрын
Will it work with a tablet instead of a phone.
@MrZimmaframe8 жыл бұрын
6:28 "Helloooo"
@EngineeringNibbles8 жыл бұрын
thanks
@yesitsdawid8 жыл бұрын
I'm one year too late. :(
@joshuabest1008 жыл бұрын
how did you get one julian
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
I asked the BBC for a review sample
@joshuabest1008 жыл бұрын
+Cosmo Kramer yep sorry I commented abit early
@joshuabest1008 жыл бұрын
+Julian Ilett can anyone do this
@JulianIlett8 жыл бұрын
I've just spoken to my contact at the BBC - he said he'll get back to me about review sample availability and how to contact the BBC
@joshuabest1008 жыл бұрын
Ok
@marekcoufal5708 жыл бұрын
I dont think it is good idea becouse think about how many 11 years old kinds want to code. I know there are some kids like me(I am 13 and I am from Czech Republic) and I am interesting in arduino and electronic etc. Think about this: 99% of kids will put it in drawers or exchange it for botle of beer in bus with some man which is interested in arduino and 1% will program it, but what did they do after? becouse they didnt know about ohms law etc. On our school there are 400 students but only 3 are interested in electronic and arduino coding
@ramironova18954 жыл бұрын
Que rayos fue eso???
@lucasc56226 жыл бұрын
I remember these. I asked my teacher if he knew of arduino and he didn’t. We would have got so much more out of getting cheap nano clones in the class. Coding with blocks is a joke.
@techlitealpha33826 жыл бұрын
I have videos on this coming up soon
@nor42776 жыл бұрын
We need a kid to help us with this I sure,cool item
@tHaH4x0r8 жыл бұрын
Good idea from the BBC, but the wrong target audience. As everyone knows engineers and programmers are born, not made. I think it is a fairly inefficient way to get kids to do it. I fear that a lot of these devices will disappear in drawers never to be used again, whilst there are plenty of kids in other grades that would love to have one. I dont know how education is done in the UK, but here in the Netherlands in the last 4 years of high school everyone has to pick a 'profile'. The 4 profiles are 'nature and technology', 'nature and biology', 'ecomony and society' and 'culture and society'. The names kind of explain what they are focussed on, and I would target such a device at nature and technology students and maybe nature and biology sutdents, since they show general interest in technology already.
@Anvilshock8 жыл бұрын
"I think it is a fairly inefficient way to [do X]" - Welcome to the UK.