First Look at the Shapeoko Pro XXL

Kevin from the Makers Garage sneaks into Carbide3D HQ to take a look at the Shapeoko Pro for the first time. Shapeoko Pro raises Shapeoko 3 to a new level of performance and usability. It’s not a replacement for Shapeoko 3 (which is not going away, in case you were wondering), Shapeoko Pro is an all-new addition to our lineup.
Some highlights:
Linear bearings for all motion, no V-Wheels
15mm belts
Integrated t-slot table
Fully supported Y extrusion tubes
All extrusions are precision machined
Integrated BitSetter
New 65mm spindle /router mount
New Carbide Motion 3.0 electronics
Motion plates are precision machined
New, faster assembly experience
To learn more about the Shapeoko Pro, head over to:
shop.carbide3d.com/collection...

[@david24442]

Winston Moy rocks! It’s like when This Old House geeks out on tools. More please!

[@dantevalentin4395]

sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know of a method to log back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly lost my account password. I would appreciate any help you can give me!

[@xanderjavier6209]

@Dante Valentin instablaster :)

[@ClintonCaraway-CNC]

I can't wait until mine gets here. Water cooled spindle and accessories have already been delivered. This is going to be awesome!! Thanks Carbide 3D for answering the communities request for a all linear bearing Shapeoko!!

[@zbeshears6945]

Of course this comes out after I’ve wanted a shapoko for years, finally bought one in April and y’all come out with this lol

[@zbeshears6945]

@@longliu2901 well I mean, it works great for me and my wife and I’ve done everything from cutting brass to Purple Heart. So.... Also, did I ask for you fucking opinion on my machine?

[@sethaldrich5300]

Just like computers, tvs, and phones, the next one is always better.

[@bda1364]

You bought yours in April, I bought mine a week ago!

[@zbeshears6945]

@@bda1364 lol That’s tough. We still really enjoy ours, and of nothing else we bought it to get our feet wet. I have a customer who has a camaster elite with a cutting set face of 7’x10’ and a 3.5 kilowatt spindle if we really wanna mill some stuff. This was for us to learn on and cut our teeth. We plan on building a house and a new shop in a couple of years and we’ll have more room for a different machine. Shapeoko makes a good machine and their customer service is by far the best I’ve seen from any company hands down.

[@bda1364]

@@zbeshears6945 I have no regrets buying mine. I am definitely gonna enjoy it and learn. I am probably gonna walk the same path as you are, you are just a couple of years ahead. Good luck with your new house and shop.

[@Samcraftcom]

I am here, anxiously awaiting my Pro to arrive, soaking up as much footage of them as I can. 😎 We need more Winston... even more than the cowbell! 😱😁👍

[@stu-po]

Well done. Looks like a great CNC!

[@unaphiliated5090]

Nice! I chose Shapeoko XXL when I got into cnc last year. I’m very happy with it, especially with the upgrades like z axis and bitsetter.

[@harcourtmudd]

They will still taker your money now and make you wait..

[@bubblewhip382]

Winston: "People always wants to push the shapeoko harder" Otherwise known as Winston

[@731Woodworks]

Very nice tool! Love all the T-Slots available. I could see a lot of uses for one in the woodshop!

[@rchavez5056]

Let's get Matt sponsored. He deserves it.

[@731Woodworks]

@@rchavez5056 👊 They look like really nice machines! Do you have one?

[@rchavez5056]

@@731Woodworks Matt I don't have that particular one but I have a AVID 48x48 pro. Previous to my current one, I made my first CNC.

[@DeanMakes]

Looks like a great machine.

[@NickDanzinger]

Looks great!

[@InTheGrainCreations]

Damn, I would have waited a few months if would have known this was coming out..... looks great though 👌

[@SanchezOKelly]

Will pro upgrade kits come eventually? I just bought mine about a month before this announcements, and would be interested in upgrading at some point.

[@davidjunk6117]

Will this table upgrade be available to retrofit my Shapeoko 3 XL? I really like the design

[@chuckwolfe4688]

Now, can you please update Carbide Create to be more robust?? Like Vectric maybe?

[@joeymerrell8585]

Great upgrades, but I assure you those belts will stretch. We use belts and linear rails on machines at work, the belts are 5”wide and 1/8” thick & they stretch.

[@resorter66]

When will they go on sale and any idea on how much.they will cost jeff

[@flyinlo1474]

Can we upgrade the belts on the current XXL?

[@jamessinger8078]

Is there a possibility of adding a 4th axis for 3d carving?

[@Veektohr]

Shaun's having a really rough morning.

[@dasfreakster]

Can you purchase the spoil board by its self?

[@lanelauhoff]

Does the bit setter work with Vectric Aspire?

[@silverstackermike5762]

where do you buy the designs like the firefighter flags?

[@chrischurch4551]

Can you use this y belts on stock shapeoko?

[@CraigLafferty]

Could you upgrade to HDZ at the time of purchase?

[@shelby50411]

Hi do anyone know if the shapeoko stock router and the makita rt0701c collet/nut interchangeable?

[@snppls]

How much for the wooden model from the beginning of the video?

[@steverusso5369]

what is the maximum milling surface? (guess i should have kept watching) I believe I’m looking for larger.. when is the XXX Pro coming out?

[@shane030716]

Hi I’ve got a couple questions. Can the t-tracks be taken off from the Pro, if I don’t want the wasteboard pieces to be that narrow? Is the bitsetter’s location fixed? Say, can I put it on the left side inside?

[@carbide3d]

The bitsetter is attached to the endplate on the front right, and that attachment point does not exist on the left side so you cannot move it. The hybrid table is integral to the rigidity of the frame. Under the MDF strips are custom extrusions that go front to back, and they tie into beams going left to right. Together, they hold the frame square. There's nothing stopping you from trying to replace them, but we can't guarantee the machine would be as sturdy or accurate then. It would be easiest to simply put a sheet of MDF over the hybrid table.

[@dionisiomusic9979]

what is the reason that the machine does not come with endless screw ?

[@marcellaplante9045]

I already have an XXL. I was hoping the innovation would have been in bed size. Really wish we could get a version that can cut up to 48" x 48". I would definitely pay more to be able to cut a standard stock width, even if the tolerances were a bit less precise.

[@hotfuzz1913]

Winston is the man 👍

[@proteo-x4u]

Hello, I live in France are you able to deliver me if I order this CNC milling machine

[@remi0321]

how can you tag it pro with Belts ! we needs ball screws

[@georgehampton667]

Exactly!

[@justkiddin1980]

Yup my thoughts exactly...or just buy a workbee and upgrade to linear rails

[@harcourtmudd]

@@georgehampton667 Its the price gouge edition.

[@FKreider]

Who is this guy Kevin from Makers Garage?? Do they have a youtube channel?

[@EclecticEcentric]

Where can I buy this in Newfoundland, Canada?

[@accessfm]

Have been waiting to pull the trigger on this but so so disappointed that it still uses belts. Was seriously hoping for ball screws on the pro when announced. This has put me off for now... Really need a CNC for home but honestly can't wait another year or so for your next version to come out that might hopefully have ball/lead screws instead of belts. We use belt driven cncs at work and the belts are re-enforced steel toughened belts. They are thick but do stretch over time and need to be replaced.

[@SYKOK1LLER]

I have a non lead screw XXL and a power switch like that pro one unused in a drawer. Give us a diagram to be able to wire in our own light up switch so we can see that it's on.

[@marvindownie1695]

Where can a buy this Machine?

[@cliffart7398]

i built my own t slot bed and made the slats 3 inches. easy to replace.

[@scottgibbons7111]

Any idea when the inductive homing switch upgrade will be available in the Carbide 3D store?

[@carbide3d]

We're hoping to have them available next week if all goes well.

[@scottgibbons7111]

Thank you. Huge fan of your products

[@kenbraley876]

What is the cost? When can we order?????

[@TheMysticABC]

Hi Winston I love your great videos I really like the new XXL PRO now with linear rails as I never liked the plastic V wheels used on many such similar machines I had a workbee which I chose because it had a lead screw vs belts, but it had the V wheels .. I have now sold my workbee and looking for my next machine and your new XXL PRO seems the one I am interested in A question regarding the belts you now use on the new XXL PRO I note that they are now 15mm. In your opinion, are these as good as using an 8mm leadscrew like on the workbee ? I plan to do a fair amount of aluminium plate making from time to time for other machines I plan to make Will the belts work as well and cope with that sort of aluminium cutting requirements ? ie stretch / break / etc... and will they be as accurate as leadscrews May I ask why you chose to use belts rather than leadscrews / ballscrews ? Keep those great videos coming Thanks

[@carbide3d]

The 9mm belts we used prior coped fine with aluminum machining. 15 should be near indestructible, the limitation is stepper motor torque. It's functionally very close to a rack and pinion setup at this point, but without any issues of alignment and tuning since the belts are more forgiving. Leadscrew will have a precision advantage because there is a mechanical reduction, belts will have higher speed. It's a tradeoff we thought was appropriate for a general purpose machine, and we have a long track record with belts that we're confident in the reliability. -W

[@zealousgrub2]

Is it easier to put together? How long does it take to assemble?

[@carbide3d]

It is much easier to assemble. The unboxing process has been streamlined and everything goes together faster. The gantry is already assembled, so you basically just need to build the frame, drop the gantry on top, then do wiring. We expect it'll take people about 2-3 hours.

[@markmayer8576]

anybody have problems with bitsetter not working? Shapeoko Pro XXL

[@ST3yo]

Where can I get that table? Or plans for the table

[@rollon_no1168]

If you look closely at around 2:34 you'll see that it is two workbenches placed together, they look like these: www.wayfair.com/storage-organization/pdp/dotted-line-dunn-48w-wood-top-workbench-w001779544.html

[@royproulx1489]

price please

[@RickSwartwood]

Will you take trade-ins?

[@TheBeardedEngineer]

Dang, I literally just bought the XXL a month ago. I wish I had known this was coming out. Also Carbide 3D, what tables are you all running in this display. I've looked everywhere for a table that can support the XXL and can't find anything.

[@WinstonMakes]

This one is on a pair of rolling workbenches by Seville Classics on Amazon. Also worth checking out Uline for industrial-esque rolling tables.

[@TheBeardedEngineer]

@@WinstonMakes Thanks! I see from looking more closely at the video that it is a pair. Therefore a moment I thought you had found the holy grail of the 48" by 48" table. I appreciate the response and insight. I really like the clean industrial look. I'll check them out.

[@sethaldrich5300]

Build one?

[@TheBeardedEngineer]

@@sethaldrich5300 Hey Seth. That is what I did. It’s constructed out of two sheets of 1” thick MDF measuring 48” x 48”. For the legs I have 4”x4” posts. Using a diagonal cross bracing between all to ensure stability. Overall, the table is rock solid. What I was getting at was more the polished look of the tables seen here intrigued me as they provide a much more industrial and professional look (IMO) compared to my all wood table.

[@mysteriousfox88]

any way to progressively upgrade from the shapeoko 3

[@carbide3d]

Because almost every structural element has been redesigned, there's no way to fully go from a standard to a Pro. We are looking into ways to bring certain improvements in the Pro to existing users, like the Hybrid Table, but we do not have an ETA on that.

[@codefeenix]

@@carbide3d An SO3xxl linear rail upgrade kit, and/or a X/Y belt upgrade kit would be AWESOME!

[@overlycranked8674]

I wished Carbide3D include a free license of MeshCam as a package at this price point. With Fusion360 suddenly going gung-ho for cash I need a secure roadmap for CAM. Either that or they must speed up the growth pace of CarbideCreate-Pro that we all love.

[@codefeenix]

I feel that Fusion360 may be a time-bomb. Every few months, things get more and more restricted for the hobbyist. I'm concerned it will no longer have a free option in the future.

[@overlycranked8674]

@@codefeenix .... and by that point, we all " FREE USERS " have invested in Fusion360 enough time learning it that spending a few hundred dollars yearly subscription will be " No Brainer ". I generally do not get the logic of buying something that the merchant openly admits he keeps my assets on his special storage room called " HIS CLOUD ! ".

[@leonardo29098]

nice. 48 b y 48 is the sweet spot

[@Mitch3D]

I want one but I need it to fit in my apartment walk-in closet. Anyone run a shapeoko in their apartment without neighbor complaints?

[@wongowonga]

Yes, I built a sturdy enclosure with some sound insulation and it works a treat. The toilet makes more noise whilst flushing...

[@Warpfield]

I watch his videos but, didn't know that Winston Moy actually worked for Carbide 3D.

[@LarryLeesBees]

If you have followed him, when he made his way from the east coast to the west coast it was because they offered him a job. He explained it back then.

[@shadow7037932]

ETA on the smaller sizes?

[@carbide3d]

We're hoping to get them on sale in the next month.

[@hotshoestudios]

Seriously?!?! I literally just got my XXL. Had I had known this was coming I would have gotten it instead. Thanks alot.

[@hotshoestudios]

@@goober-ll1wx lol, settle down boy. :)

[@justkiddin1980]

If this is a “pro” version, why not go with leadscrews on every axis??

[@MrJcTTK]

i agree 100%%%%%%%

[@harcourtmudd]

They are holding that back as the next year upgrade kit for only $1,000.00. Then there will be "Profullisous" Limited Edition with custom colors and burning belt scent generator as a option.

[@janderson2375]

Because there are trade-offs with belts vs screws and they found that belts suit their audience better than screws.

[@battles151]

It is seemingly always out of stock and with a new excuse every week as to why it's unavailable. I wish you could preorder so you don't lose your wait in line. I've been waiting going on 2 months now...It makes me wonder what the turn around time would be if I ever needed replacement parts ☹

[@mokhammad4159]

How much cost this machine

[@gummixx6885]

2800usd+shipping

[@LarryLeesBees]

shop.carbide3d.com/products/shapeoko-pro-cnc-router?variant=32912259186749

[@gummixx6885]

I want one!! I bet Elon Musk's Cyber Truck's bed inspired that fastening mechanism LOL

[@eyeofamon]

Still haven't seen this thing do true 3D carving. Like say, the carved top on a Gibson Les Paul guitar. I'm guessing it can do it, but all we ever see is extruded 2D cutting.

[@echodelta6196]

oh man, I just got a XXL :(

[@ErtsenPlayGames]

so.... from shapeoko to average cnc on linear rails that work far better becouse they have better accuracy and stiffness :)

[@SavetheRepublic]

I keep hearing about belt issues. Anyone actual use the machine that could give some real world advice.

[@wongowonga]

I have had the shapeoko 3 xxl for over a year now, It's a nice piece of kit with many possibilities but it's not flawless. It depends on your expectations. If you want something that ploughs through wood at 100 miles an hour then you're going to need to spend a LOT more cash. Overall, for the price, this is a good machine and I do not regret the purchase.

[@alexdroban4312]

Is this made in USA? I’m feeling patriotic these days.

[@carbide3d]

It sure is

[@cesarhernandez4210]

Nice 👍👍 price

[@authenticwood5219]

Hi, can you surface the entire cutting area?

[@codefeenix]

Hi, did you watch the video?

[@CAULEYJR]

To bad its not ball screw like the x carve pro. I have the XXL and honestly the belts are its down fall

[@wlrottge]

Get steel core belts, huge improvement

[@frankyw08]

That would add a lot of expense. I've got one of the early models, and my only complaint is the z axis (belt driven), which they switched to linear rail and threaded now. You can get some pretty good inlays if your belts are tuned right. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j16omICdZZ5ko5I&ab_channel=ComputersandWood

[@LoremIpsum1970]

Why not a fixed rigid frame/gantry and a movable bed??? Am I going to have to sell a kidney to buy this in the UK??

[@carbide3d]

A moving table of this size would require around 6 feet of total clearance in the Y direction, require a much much bigger structure around it, and probably slow down the Y motion because of weight of the moving table. Once you get above a certain size it's much more efficient to use a moving gantry. We can ship to the UK now and, once we get past the opening demand, I suspect that some of our EU distributors will carry it locally.

[@LoremIpsum1970]

@@carbide3d I would have expected anyone getting an xxl wouldn’t be short of the space. I know you can get moving bed machines this size, just curious that’s all. I’ve noticed the price had gone up in the UK, that and not being able to source any stock for a long time, otherwise I’d already have an XL.

[@Beanpapac15]

"These belts will not stretch" shows footage of stretching belts

[@harcourtmudd]

Even old Fat guys figure outs belts don't work after a certain degree of stress and move on to Suspenders!

[@janderson2375]

Compared to other belt systems, they don't. Plus, you don't want to have them super tight or you risk breaking them. Plus, they were deflecting the belts, not stretching them in their tensile direction where it matters.

[@Beanpapac15]

@@janderson2375 Assuming the rest of the machine is rigid you can't deflect the belt without stretching it. I'm sure its a fine belt system, but if the drive system is the same as the older shapeokos whats gonna reduce belt lifespan is not the tension but the tight bend radius.

[@nickr5658]

They released a “pro” xxl with some upgrades and linear rails and its 1k more? It seems like they should have just put these upgrades on all of their machines. I have never had a need for t track table. Bought it never installed it. The bit setter is great. The shapeoko 2 is a good design but old. Everyone has been waiting for an upgrade for you to make it more rigid. Just confused by this marketing strategy... seems like you should be discontinuing the old machines and releasing the upgraded model. It’s great don’t get me wrong and not everyone will need the upgrades but this will have people who buy the standard model pissed once they find out how flimsy the z axis is and that they could have bought an open builds with linear rails for way less. Love the shapeoko, awesome machine for what it is. This should have replaced your other version though.

[@codefeenix]

That is why they are on Shapeoko3. 1k seems more than fair for the changes.

[@fishdisc7022]

Fraction of a millimeter? Blasphemous! There should be no fractions in metric. :}

[@CamiloACamacho]

Too expensive for a router.

[@longliu2901]

I am having a shapoko XXL, i feel like i am having a trash VS this pro edition. belt driven on Z axis sucks. and also not worth spend more money on this XXL.

[@zbeshears6945]

Then sell your xxl and buy this new pro? Did you just come here to complain?

[@longliu2901]

@@zbeshears6945 nope. But getting a larger working area, more powerful cnc router from alibaba.

[@zbeshears6945]

@@longliu2901 okay cool, then just do that and be quite lmao You knew exactly what you were paying for when you bought the shapoko you have now. And you gladly paid it no one twisted your arm. Order your shit, upgrade your machine and be quite. Literally no one here cares if you were happy with your purchase or not or what your opinion on belts are...

[@AntiViGames]

@@zbeshears6945 Why are you so angry in the comments... jeez... Relax a little.

[@zbeshears6945]

@@AntiViGames cause this guy has done nothing but complaining he comments, he replies to my comment about how I just bought a shapeoko in April and they come out to with this lol and he says my machine “is shit, the belts are shit and his shapeoko is now trash because they came out With this” Like just shut up man I didn’t ask you, I didn’t care what his opinions on my machine are... and then I see he’s also complaining here.