matrix.to/#/#rossmannrepair:matrix.org frame.work/ Today we will look at a framework laptop.
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@LTUGang2 жыл бұрын
They have to get rid of bezels on the screen.
@rossmanngroup2 жыл бұрын
Fuck no. None of this edge to edge glass bullshit. It just makes things more breakable for no good reason. What harm have bezels ever done you? Did bezels have sex with your mother? Cause you to fail out of school? Fire you from your job? Shut down your economy due to a virus? Bezels have done *NO HARM* and NO economic damage to a single man, woman or child on this planet; yet they *CONSISTENTLY* receive unwarranted hate & denigration. It stops here, and it stops now! We are going to start a new movement, the stop bezel hate movement.
@KeeganDoomFire112 жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup Heck yeah, give me fat bezels so I can adjust my screen without rubbing thumbs all over it!
@davidhunternyc12 жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup ... but is it thin? I want to have sex with an anorexic laptop.
@bonbonpony2 жыл бұрын
I'm all for bezels too. What thickness of the frame is OK though? Do you prefer narrow or thick? For me, roughly 5…10 millimeters is ok.
@4444aa2 жыл бұрын
Unrelated, but honestly I have to say I hate the trend screens have gone with modern devices. Rounded edges, bends, holes, all that just feels like parts of my screen are being covered. I just want a nice rectangle and nothing more.
@FrameworkComputer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for digging into the product! Just some notes as we watch: The USB-C Expansion Card is indeed intended to be "sacrificial" as an alternative to wrecking the mainboard if you trip on a cable or wrench it somehow.
@FrameworkComputer2 жыл бұрын
There's a Phillips PH0 on the other side of that T5 bit to use for the little Phillips screws that we had to use in some spots for height clearance reasons.
@FrameworkComputer2 жыл бұрын
There are two more spare fasteners near the battery connector. I don't remember why we put them there instead of next to the other fasteners...
@FrameworkComputer2 жыл бұрын
It looks like those two sticks of RAM actually are different. I picked up two random sticks from our office when sending this out. For a real customer order, the sticks would match.
@FrameworkComputer2 жыл бұрын
First boot after installing RAM takes a while because it's doing memory training.
@FrameworkComputer2 жыл бұрын
And hard power off is currently a 12 second press (which we are shortening, because that is definitely too long).
@gargaj2 жыл бұрын
My first impression about this is "this laptop is the collection of good ideas the creators couldn't get past management at their previous workplaces".
@Confucius_Says...2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@nalknalk58202 жыл бұрын
Didn't Clevo try something along the Framework thing a little while back?
@YeOldeKamikaze2 жыл бұрын
All of these ideas would have failed the big question, which is "how much more can we profit from this?"
@effexon2 жыл бұрын
@@YeOldeKamikaze you may have forgotten part 2: how much more can screw customer with lies
@YeOldeKamikaze2 жыл бұрын
@@effexon Yeah. Some manufacturers seem to go out of their way to screw their own customers lol.
@ScrubsIsee2 жыл бұрын
„I don’t want this to be niche - I want this to be normal!“ 100% agreed.
@AshtonSnapp2 жыл бұрын
69 nice
@___xyz___2 жыл бұрын
59:49 please get in the habit
@obfuscated30902 жыл бұрын
NORMALS don't want it and they not techies drive the mass market. Eternal summer is here and being technically capable was NEVER normal even before the computer age. Technology is magic to morons and most humans just want appliances. Any techie who doesn't understand humanity has issues. Be happy there are enough of us to support these ventures but know they can never be "normal". Normals just want to drool on themselves and be entertained.
@ryankelzenberg34532 жыл бұрын
I completely understand their concern releasing the technical drawings. When you spend a considerable amount of funds on R&D you have to protect your intellectual property. It is too easy for another company to make a clone of your device and undercut the costs because the clone company doesn't have to recover the R&D costs.
@n-11ordoskirata702 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I think they won't release to the public. Completely understandable as well, as soon as they said they weren't sure if they would release schematics I knew it was so they could figure out how to protect their research and design investments.
@nathanielhill8156 Жыл бұрын
I actually see a slightly bigger issue for framework, do they have Intel's permission to distribute the pin out for the CPU/chipset and/or any other chip on the board that they sourced from a third party?
@JayOhm2 жыл бұрын
Louis is opening the screen so carefully… Almost as if it was a Macbook with a short LCD cable. Relax, the hinge does 180 just fine!
@Duffman193702 жыл бұрын
The ptsd is too real
@rossmanngroup2 жыл бұрын
@@Duffman19370 Do you know how scared I am everytime someone used to come in with an A1706/A1707/A1708 model and we'd do a motherboard/keyboard/trackpad repair to it... ? I would literally open it just enough to see the screen and THAT'S IT... because if the screen wire FINALLY BREAKS while it's with ME, I'm getting blamed for it... PTSD indeed!
@Shalmonify2 жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup If you do the 180 on the framework you can easily take off the magnetic bezel and look at the hinges and the cable :)
@LastKnight07272 жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup Literally had this happen to me just recently. Client brought in a pc laptop with a broken hinge, all that needed to be done was that the plastic needed to be reattached to the metal palmrest cover. So I remove the battery, and apply epoxy to the hinge and clamp it down. No cables removed other than the battery. Once it finished curing, powered it on, and NOTHING on the screen. Client claimed that the system worked just fine when it was brought in. Client also failed to mention that they DROPPED the system during the check-in process. Granted it's on me that I didn't check that it worked before starting work, but we got slammed that week and I just wanted it out of my shop as fast as possible.
@leeward67622 жыл бұрын
The ram is physically different, just take a look at it, you can see it in the video, not sure it matters tho.
@morkovija2 жыл бұрын
I hope they succeed. This level of repairability should be the norm
@renderedpixels43002 жыл бұрын
Same, in the future if I need a laptop and have a large budget ill take their laptop in a heatbeat but otherwise, for a $800 min config I could get a FAR better amd laptop that may not be repairable, but itll still be worth it. Price is the major factor for me.
@itdepends6042 жыл бұрын
seriously, that's 0.5x to slow.
@advanceringnewholder2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they will. It's just the world seems to hate when we have a nice things.
@NeoJ4K32 жыл бұрын
All it needs is a standardization of graphics card port... And of course users changeable
@itdepends6042 жыл бұрын
@@NeoJ4K3 how about cpu replacements?
@progenitor_amborella2 жыл бұрын
Notice how there’s a charge light indicator on each side of the laptop? The one opposite of the charger sends POST codes! There’s a table they have that shows what it’s for. Cool little idea :)
@UNSCPILOT2 жыл бұрын
Much, much easier to diagnose failing hardware! Part of why I love the diagnostic lights on my Desktop's motherboard (MSI B450M Mortar M-ATX), have not needed them yet but glad to have them!
@AsheramK2 жыл бұрын
My favorite part are the two hardware switches for the microphone and camera. Reckon we've finally got a computer for secure workplaces.
@nonenothingnull2 жыл бұрын
Would be neat to verify it schematically
@frederichardy88442 жыл бұрын
The good thing is, this is proof that everything doesn't have to be glued/riveted to produce a reasonably thin production laptop, killing the argument of mainstream manufacturers!
@trowawayacc2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@L70ECT2 жыл бұрын
"The Dells not even fucking thinner!" - Linus, LTT Framework video. Linus had it side by side with the Dell XPS 15. Linus sounded the same as Louis when he found the magnetic screen bezel.
@tamaselmont83102 жыл бұрын
Its about speeed. Manufacturing speed. Trust me its a lot easire/faster in mass production to glue/rivet. It was never about what is possible or not, what is cheaper/faster.
@TheRealDescartes2 жыл бұрын
@@tamaselmont8310 Then why are things that are cheaper/faster to manufacture still more expensive?
@patpat13542 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealDescartes things are cheaper to manufacture so the company can make more money, not for you to save a buck.
@I_Crit_My_Pants2 жыл бұрын
"A happy little globe, happy tree, all that nice shit" The Bob Ross of laptop repair.
@AnthonyGoodley2 жыл бұрын
Yes if Bob Ross was from NYC, had no filter and was R rated.
@woodenhoe2 жыл бұрын
Bob Rossmann
@pinkfloydflamingo97882 жыл бұрын
The John Muir of laptop repair. How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive and Running Forever helped me make decisions about DIY versus being cheerful about paying a shop bill. The illustrations were amazing. Each set of instructions showed the tools and materials required for the job. During the pandemic, I discovered this gem on YT and stayed as a viewer after things got way busy because of RTR, the vlogs in NYC, the shop, the city, Erika and the cats. Happy little accident.
@sensoryoverload6732 жыл бұрын
@@woodenhoe Boubis Rossmann
@tynewlin2 жыл бұрын
@@pinkfloydflamingo9788 That's one book I've wanted to read for a long time. Thanks for reminding me.
@natemoorman45622 жыл бұрын
There absolutely is a reason to have a numpad on a laptop IF it's big enough. I bought a 17" chonk of a thinkpad (P71 I think) in part because of the numpad. Do engineering school or work in excel for a few hours and you'll see the value I promise.
@texj.thresher1612 жыл бұрын
The moment Louis mentioned "Temple OS" I snorted so hard. 11/10 keep it up.
@BigE19862 жыл бұрын
I think IT departments will love this laptop. The modularity and repaired ability make it such a good buy
@ReptilianLepton2 жыл бұрын
Some will. At the enterprise level, though, too many are addicted to Dell/HP/Lenovo managed services to bother repairing individual devices.
@salmiakki56382 жыл бұрын
They should Invest in the enterprise tho, with some management sw... This is a good office notebook, the repeatability surely will be liked by ITs. And they will be able to have contracts for tens or hundreds of laptop at a time, wich for a startup would be ideal
@chrits33962 жыл бұрын
I personally would love to use it as my work laptop. Having one for an employee to use is a different story. The average employee cares about the user experience such as tactility of the keyboard, size and resolution the screen, etc. Pretty much any feature that makes their job easier they will gravitate towards. The ease in repairability will be more a convenience to me and less to them
@salmiakki56382 жыл бұрын
@@chrits3396 employees are not expected to repair the device themselves. They would enjoy the hi res 3:2 screen, a good webcam, the fingerprint sensor and a nice looking laptop with the ports they need. The IT department would benefit from needing seconds to service one with a busted screen, keyboard or USB port
@rezenclowd32 жыл бұрын
Is it actually more repairable? Will framework sell parts and provide schematics to the units?
@r.l.royalljr.39052 жыл бұрын
I could have spent less money buying another XPS 13 to be my new writing/development/hobby laptop, but I bought a Batch 1 Framework because I believe the extra cost is worthwhile to make the company a long term success and to help rebuild a solid piece of the market for easily serviceable and repairable computer equipment.
@snerttt2 жыл бұрын
If only I had this amount of moral coherency
@schweizzz2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I'm thinking about buying for a similar reason. The only problem is that my current laptop is still working. I just want to replace to have a new one, which is stupid
@sarahilmao72942 жыл бұрын
@@schweizzz the good thing is when ur current laptop kicks the bucket if framework succeds , there’s probably gonna be even more modular pieces u can connect to it or even a newer design possibly whit a dedicated gpu laptop , wich i think is the only thing missing on this laptops
@scramjet74662 жыл бұрын
@@schweizzz what good will a modular laptop be, if you are bored of your functioning laptop 😂
@schweizzz2 жыл бұрын
@@scramjet7466 true 😀
@joshnabours91022 жыл бұрын
Temple OS is seriously impressive when you consider it was written by one person. And if you look up all the traits and features of the OS it just gets more impressive in light of the fact that one person wrote it by themselves.
@Guru_10922 жыл бұрын
One person who was a paranoid schizophrenic! Sad, but even more impressive!
@MapleMan1984 Жыл бұрын
I love Terry.
@Real_MisterSir9 ай бұрын
One person holding full creative and engineering control over anything complicated, tends to actually be a good thing because they are by nature forced to take a minimalist approach where efficiency and priority is given exclusively to what is necessary - meaning things don't get bloated and crammed with all kinds of useless things that just complicate what doesn't need to be complex. And this is not just for programming, it's for basically everything. When one person is in charge of everything, you know they are not incentivized to cut corners just to please others.
@rightwingsafetysquad98722 жыл бұрын
In the spirit of AvE, spray the underside of the keyboard with Flex Seal for DIY water resistance.
@nurgle112 жыл бұрын
No the Ave solution would be to spray it on top .. it's flexible aint it :D
@theskepticalnegativist10042 жыл бұрын
I would imagine it would be perfect as a "fleet" laptop for schools or normal duty office work. You by 2-300 and stock spare parts for one model. Should be cost effective.
@superslimanoniem47122 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, nice!
@ethanl96562 жыл бұрын
Probably too expensive. You mean instead of Chromebooks for students or laptops for teachers?
@ajaaoka63642 жыл бұрын
I'm already recommending this for my long term planners. All of them are excited, but waiting for a little more proof before going large scale with them. If they make it to 2 years they will probably see a lot of larger clients move towards them.
@moshikitrain2 жыл бұрын
The idea sounds nice, but I can see teenagers pulling the screen bezel off and throw them around like a frisbee
@theskepticalnegativist10042 жыл бұрын
@@moshikitrain that's the bonus feature...
@SanicTheHidgehag2 жыл бұрын
9:36 - the term is "captive screws". Yes, they're very nice.
@ClemMorton2 жыл бұрын
I love this concept. I think as this product generates revenue for the company there will be more options and additions available. - Chassis with widescreen for those who like to watch movies. - Motherboards with different processors. - Ability to add dedicated graphics. Being able to mix and match different components from different product generations will allow you to only buy the upgraded parts that you need at a lower cost. For example say they come out with a motherboard with a amd cpu. The rest of the components in your laptop are still perfectly functional. All you need to do is pop in the new motherboard and away you go. At a much cheaper price. So I think the "price to performance" you were talking about is a little skewed when looked at long term with upgrade cycles in mind. Right now; yes you could get a laptop that outperforms the framework. In two years after using it for awhile, about the time most people decide to go out and buy a new device. All they need to do is grab the upgrades they need, and then the price will shine. Basically what I'm saying is there is a higher upfront cost to get everything needed for a functional laptop, but when it comes time to upgrade in the future - the cost is minimal, so you can easily afford to do so. AND the motherboard of the older device should be able to run standalone. SO! This means that you can utilize the older boards for something in set top boxes, or whatever. I'm picturing a rack mount blade server type design. That when you upgrade to a new board in your laptop. You place the used board in a chassis in your home server rack, and add it as a node to your home. For use in home automation or whatever. As you get multiple generations into the boards you can rotate out the older nodes and replace them with the newer more energy efficient ones. Running something like kubernetes or whatever. This is fairly niche idea granted but I think holds a definite interest for some people.
@ClemMorton Жыл бұрын
@@lasagneman5586 Yup, I saw the announcement on Linus's Channel.
@TalynWuff2 жыл бұрын
"I'm not an influencer, I'm a bum." Your humility, sir, is breathtaking.
@ClearComplexity2 жыл бұрын
Modularity aside on the ports, they prove you can have a sleek design with ram, storage, and network cards that aren't soldered to the motherboard. That's the biggest thing for me, sure I love the ease of repair and open approach; but if everyone else would just follow socketed ram and storage again we'd be in a much better situation.
@FoxBlocksHere2 жыл бұрын
I wish Framework the best! They're one of the best things to happen for right-to-repair in a long time!
@Sollace2 жыл бұрын
I could actually see the Framework laptops becoming more economical over the long term, especially when you're just adding more ram, replacing the GPU/CPU, or replacing the keyboard/battery where you would otherwise have to buy a whole new laptop.
@UNSCPILOT2 жыл бұрын
As soon as the have versions with AMD parts it's becoming my go to upgrade path. My cheap HP is somewhat repairable and upgradeable but it has nothing on the Framework laptop, and it'd be nice to have a laptop with a metal body instead of plastic finally
@theairaccumulator71442 жыл бұрын
Replacing the CPU only existed on old thinkpads with rare Intel M cpus and replacing the GPU is just a dream. You would need to also replace the bus, vram and power delivery while not having a 10cm thick laptop.
@colinmcbottle Жыл бұрын
@@theairaccumulator7144 Replacing CPus has existed until Thinkpads T440Ps, and that is Haswell generation. So its doable, albeit impractical given the thickness people now want from their laptops
@ajinkyakamat7053 Жыл бұрын
They just released a CPU upgrade for older devices
@lasagneman5586 Жыл бұрын
@@ajinkyakamat7053 And the new one has replaceable GPU modules
@isaacmalown70032 жыл бұрын
'I'm not an influencer, I'm a bum'. That's why we love you.
@GeFlixes2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a world where this level of reparability was standard, expected of devices, or even mandatory.
@alphagiga48782 жыл бұрын
I think it will be, and see Louis talked about there not being much options, well framework themselves said they are working on more options, and I think it was implied there will be a dedicated gpu option
@unbearifiedbear18852 жыл бұрын
My Grandad used to fix everything at home, from the TV and VCR to the kitchen appliances.. can't even get *parts* these days
@alphagiga48782 жыл бұрын
@@unbearifiedbear1885 it's a real Shame the maker arm project fell through, one could have built their own parts
@unbearifiedbear18852 жыл бұрын
@@alphagiga4878 yessir 😔
@eugene12310mobile2 жыл бұрын
This would actually solve the massive e waste problem we have rn
@NunYa9532 жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember when all electronics had schematics inside of them as well as a complete parts list!
@SergeantExtreme2 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, that was when all electronics were made right here in the good ole USA. Interesting how this "anti-repair" crap came about at the same time that products started to be made in China.
@Mad-Lad-Chad2 жыл бұрын
@@SergeantExtreme Except its not the products pushing against right to repair. It's the companies making said products. A lot of which are U.S. based companies.
@SergeantExtreme2 жыл бұрын
@@Mad-Lad-Chad This is a myth. Many people (such as yourself) think that American companies go overseas and tell manufacturers to "make this". That's not what's happening. The TRUTH is that companies go overseas, see what Chinese manufacturers are *already making,* and then simply slap their logo on it. They didn't participate in the engineering phase at all.
@Kevin-jb2pv2 жыл бұрын
@@SergeantExtreme Both happen, actually. A lot of stuff that is already being made in China that just gets rebranded has it's origins in designs from foreign engineering firms, even if it's been iterated upon so many times that it's unrecognizable as the original design, anymore. Basically: Big foreign company tells Chinese factory A to make X. Factory A sells designs for X on the grey market to factory B. Factory B makes the barest minimum of changes to X to makes it slightly cheaper and just different enough to not be banned outright in countries that respect international IP laws and calls it Y, and then resells _those_ designs to factory C, who repeats the process. Then, after a few dozen iterations of this you wind up with an electronic product that is literally just 3 resistors wired directly to an AC outlet and marketed as an "Aye-phun Note 3000 One-XXX" The other thing that more scrupulous manufacturers do is just buy the designs for last gen products and polish them up. It's the Hyundai/ Kia model. Stuff from last year's lineup is still probably _fine_ and the designs are still useful, and can probably be made cheaper now than they could when they were brand new. So just license the old design, buff out some of the known bugs that weren't discovered until after the thing you're selling went into mass production, reorganize the chips to fit your new product, and slap a new plastic shell on it. Bam, perfectly useable Android phone at a fraction of the cost from when it was a flagship model. (IDK if this is specifically done with phones, but it is 100% done with all kinds of stuff.) Also, a lot of "cheap Chinese" goods are often times just made out of components from name brands that just barely didn't meet spec, but are still totally functional. The real test is whether or not they are used ethically to within the spec that these parts can handle, or if they get thrown slapdash into something with zero regard for quality or safety. There is a growing amount of homebrew Chinese engineering happening, for sure, and some of it's actually half-way decent, but it seems to me that at this point in time the first scenario is still predominantly what's going on over there.
@dynamicpaintball2 жыл бұрын
@@Mad-Lad-Chad yes and no. Samsung isn't American but Japanese, same with Toshiba, Sony, etc. Some of the people who assemble the parts are American or European but the large majority of raw part manufacturers (Flash Memory, Chips, etc) come from Asia and are largely manufactured in China. Additionally you're forgetting a very important detail: in order for a company to sell it's products in China (the largest market in the world) companies are required to sell a piece of the corporation to the CCP directly. So in a sense even if the company was founded in America but sells it's products in China, it's actually more of a Chinese company.
@TheRealXyzven2 жыл бұрын
31:51 - It doesn't matter.... one is primary antenna and the other is backup/secondary. The idea is that they are both eventually run in different areas to give you the best coverage (from my experience)
@lemon3rd8002 жыл бұрын
What you said at 8:42 is very important to me. This is why I keep watching your videos: you're honest about your opinions and experiences. You don't present anything in a washed up way.
@FlyboyHelosim2 жыл бұрын
Louis: "Screws that are kinda stuck in there." Me: "Captive. Captive screws is what they are."
@BertholdBarth2 жыл бұрын
ONly found out about them this year. Had a crew that was kind of stuck in there. Then it wasn't...
@emmettturner94522 жыл бұрын
Exactly. My M11x had captive screws on the main door.
@sandakureva2 жыл бұрын
The best kind. Makes dropping them somewhere unfortunate much less likely.
@MattBlank02 жыл бұрын
*screams at computer
@Poop-nu1so2 жыл бұрын
Captive screws are great! Make service faster and easier less chance losing stuff
@ivermec-tin6662 жыл бұрын
IMO, the mic and camera switches and never having to deal with a "genius bar" is worth $500.00 right there. If they made a workstation model, I would set my sights on it, as an upgrade from my old Thinkpad.
@SteinCodes2 жыл бұрын
3 things, 1. Make it modestly water resistant, and improve the keyboard and etc build slightly. 2. Bring more spec options. 3. Bring it to my country, and I would be willing to strangle people to get one.
@nickcollins10522 жыл бұрын
I first saw this as a review on Linus tech tips and considering my current laptop is a 2010 unibody Mac (the only white plastic one) that I had for 4 years of public school then bought and it's getting to the level of slow that's kinda unacceptable this laptop is most definitely on my short list just for the repairability which is why I've kept my Mac cause I've just fixed what's needed to be fixed since it was before they got super bad for repairs
@p_serdiuk2 жыл бұрын
@@SteinCodes 1) is very hard to do with modules tho.
@SteinCodes2 жыл бұрын
@@p_serdiuk I am a consumer first so making their life hard is not something I care about. And I will pay premium price for that as well, without any brand or service guarantees based on history.
@SteinCodes2 жыл бұрын
@Kent Teffeteller 2. Lack of spec options. 3. Not available in my country lol :(
@rebootcomputa2 жыл бұрын
For future references, when installing antenna to wifi cards, it is easier to connect the wifi antennas onto the wireless card before attaching it to the actual pcb connector it makes it easier to put together the connector are a bit fragile.
@HR-mp9ct2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they make all the screws the same make me feel good😊, and it’s magnetic, yes I do repairs. If I ever need a new computer I’ll probably be getting one
@UNSCPILOT2 жыл бұрын
As a PC enthusiast who loves doing occasional upgrades, as soon as they have a AMD version of the mobo I'm deffinitly going to be grabbing one
@Tom5TomEntertainment2 жыл бұрын
I hope this becomes normal and then cost of the laptop and replacement parts comes down as economies of scale kick in.
@bpcgos2 жыл бұрын
What I was thinking when Linus talk about Framework laptop is will they brave enough sending this to mr Rossmann and get his opinion... And they totally very brave with excitement bonus from mr Rossmann himself when taking it apart, a very rare occurrence as long as I subbed to his channel all this years, framework will get my kudos just for that.
@mjc09612 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they set these out to real people like Louis. Sending it out to underwear shilling clowns like Linus isn't useful.
@chadwick628382 жыл бұрын
@@mjc0961 Linus has a quarter million dollar stake in framework 💀💀💀
@NiSE_Rafter2 жыл бұрын
Not looking things up before streaming is part of the charm :) I love how raw the experience is
@gospodintanev67832 жыл бұрын
Great review and I genuinely hope Framework would pick up steam in their business. Having said that, I also take it with a grain of salt that they succeed, this whole concept seems familiar (The project Ara modular phone from several years back). The people behind the original idea made us dream about the possibilities of a modular phone BUT the big boys for Alphabet stepped in, bought the rights and the name and then basically killed it.
@bonbonpony2 жыл бұрын
22:00 I can't believe that we come to a point in our history in which having one type of screw for everything is so rare that it must be praised :/
@dominus66952 жыл бұрын
lmao
@VV-nw4cz2 жыл бұрын
Is not that something that supposedly makes manufacturing cheaper?
@icerink2392 жыл бұрын
older laptops and electronics are notorious for using different types of screws for the same product. It's actually just recent that electronics do this thing.
@iivin42332 жыл бұрын
Being equiped with hands as you are you are particularly aware of this benefit.
@KarisMajik2 жыл бұрын
"I'm confident that someone at the Genius Bar would be able to rip that" Oh snap
@LuisCaneSec2 жыл бұрын
"Oh snap" The sound of a Genius breaking a cable.
@CozyLivingMachine2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this with physical switches for wi-fi, BT, mic and camera. This is such a great device as is!
@phillee28142 жыл бұрын
Mic and camera do have physical switches already. I agree the others would be worth adding.
@CozyLivingMachine2 жыл бұрын
@@phillee2814 I stand corrected, that's fantastic! I definitely missed that. I can't think of another device on the market on this level. I'm genuinely happy this exists!
@ryans31992 жыл бұрын
I have high hopes for this little guy. He's going to revolutionize the market. Even for the lay-user, being able to swap out ports or even stick on another hard drive, will be invaluable in a world of dongles. And if/when a 13" version comes out, and when my beloved Dell XPS dies, I'll be taking a very hard look at this. Best of luck to all the guys at Framework.
@SleepyFen2 жыл бұрын
"It's a magnetic bezel!" Holy shit, it's been a long time since I've felt this turned on by tech. That is sexy as hell!
@youuuuuuuuuuutube2 жыл бұрын
I love the 3:2 screen. It's very convenient for photos (cameras typically shoot photos in 3:2 ratio) and even for programming, since there is more vertical space, so you see more code. It's just great.
@Kevin-jb2pv2 жыл бұрын
It's one of the things I really liked about my Surface 3. That form factor is honestly very nice for a mobile device. So much widescreen space gets completely wasted in modern UI's anyways.
@theairaccumulator71442 жыл бұрын
16:10 is much better for programming imo. 3:2 is kinda awkward in modern times.
@s1mph0ny2 жыл бұрын
39:12 "no they're the same." You can see in this frame one stick has 8 chips per side while the other has only 4. There was recent coverage of this issue concerning greater memory density resulting in fewer chips necessary to achieve the same capacity on a stick, which can impact performance as the memory controller has to divide the same capacity against fewer chips. There's also the chance that these two sticks run different timings considering the generational difference in sourced parts. It's unfortunate crucial doesn't do a better job labeling their memory, given that a casual observance results in missing these details.
@Jbeasty19902 жыл бұрын
Remember my uncle giving me his "broken" laptop, like ~8 years ago or something now, only had a bad HD, so I put in a cheap SSD, fixed. Offered it back, told him it only cost like $40 to fix and will work 10x better than before now with a stable windows 7 bloatware free setup as well, but he already had bought a new one and told me to keep it lol... Still using it today, mostly just for browsing and movie watching, sometimes word processing and other random stuff just about any device can do. Just recently bought a replacement battery for ~$18, which I was very surprised to see readily available for cheap. So, I can relate to waiting for it to basically turn to dust before getting a new one haha...
@moskbarto94362 жыл бұрын
You took the most idiotic approach and started without reading the manual - just like any ordinary user such as myself would. Great video, thank you for this realistic review! 😂
@SIPEROTH2 жыл бұрын
Men don't read manuals. 😎
@YeOldeKamikaze2 жыл бұрын
Working as a part time laptop technician, I've learned to look for service manuals first. It saves me some time and gives me peace of mind knowing I'm going through the process correctly :) Manufacturers who refuse to publish service manuals should go to hell. HP, Lenovo and Dell are fine, their manuals are readily available and perfectly usable. Asus, Toshiba, Samsung and all others are on my shit list.
@handlemonium2 жыл бұрын
Imagine: being able to mix-and-match compatible parts from different vendors and brands. Just pick out a phone (Fairphone, Shift, etc.) or laptop (Framework 14-16-17, Tongfang, etc.) chassis and the accompanying motherboard, battery and the rest can be custom-configured to my heart's content! • display • ports • RAM • SSD drive(s) • keyboard keycaps & switches • chassis with customizable materials, colors, hinges, laser etching, RGB, and trackpad surfaces • open source PCIe 5.0 add-in graphics cards standard (something like "pico MXM" if it existed)
@Raivo_K2 жыл бұрын
You mean like a...desktop? What is this magick?
@danieleckert35082 жыл бұрын
You can order the DIY version of the framework without RAM, SSD and Wifi card, and use whatever you have laying around or bought elsewhere
@CharlieSnipp2 жыл бұрын
I don't have to imagine, I own a desktop
@handlemonium2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieSnipp Yes like a desktop/Mac Pro but a laptop or phone.
@SoloRenegade2 жыл бұрын
You mean how it used to be for all of prior human history?
@extropiantranshuman2 жыл бұрын
I think we need to split the repair wiki into software and hardware. There's so much in software to fix if it breaks and with open source - it'll be a huge wealth of info.
@darekmistrz43642 жыл бұрын
That is very interessting concept!
@extropiantranshuman2 жыл бұрын
@@darekmistrz4364 Thanks. I saw that it is split up into that, but we're going to need to grow the software section into teaching people how to navigate software as well. Once there's enough info in software - I hope for this separation.
@nonenothingnull2 жыл бұрын
Software and hardware do need a split, but firmware embeds to hardware that they can't just 'physically design', like a BIOS ROM... Which muddles things
@theonetrueanthonylong18432 жыл бұрын
@32:00 Most of the circuitry is based off of diode transistors operating in switch mode and those are directional in reference to bias voltage and common. If you swap the leads you could risk running a diode into reverse breakdown. Then, BANG. A nice black spot where you had a transistor :)
@Liquid_Mike2 жыл бұрын
TempleOS: "The USB dongles glow in the dark"
@34REDCOW342 жыл бұрын
xD
@Dong_Harvey2 жыл бұрын
The Holiness
@ocsanik5022 жыл бұрын
Glorious
@Kevin-jb2pv2 жыл бұрын
I want a follow-up on how her new OS is treating her.
@ocsanik5022 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin-jb2pv same
@FeuerblutRM2 жыл бұрын
I need this framework laptop: - with AMD options - with a num pad on the keyboard - thicker to have more connectivity options and optional Blu-ray drive - optional 17"+ screen - looking less like an apple (sorry, I fancy black plastic over silver anytime 😂) So I hope they'll expand their choices. Definitely rooting for them. A small German shop called krotus-computer offers modular laptops, too. They don't offer the same variability, however you can choose your configuration, you have good accessibility for changing and repairing parts and the core hardware is modular so you can replace/slightly upgrade motherboard+CPU, GPU, RAM, drive. You can't chose or switch any connectors on the case though but it's also a step in the right direction. Sadly these guys are basically unknown.
@piotrd.48502 жыл бұрын
Maybe just with TB docking station with slots for BlueRay and connectivity?
@FeuerblutRM2 жыл бұрын
@@piotrd.4850 I'd accept that, but I definitely need an optical drive option. 👍
@MuzikMan20142 жыл бұрын
I imagine that people will eventually 3rd party this if it gets off the ground. They released CADs of the chassis so it shouldn't long before we see diys of things.
@FeuerblutRM2 жыл бұрын
@@MuzikMan2014 I do hope so! Will support framework as soon as they launch in Europe! 🙏👍 The world needs this!
@nietscherarek2 жыл бұрын
yes and floppy drive pls and iphone storage bay
@ultimateclappage91092 жыл бұрын
My mom had an old hp compaq laptop that was extremely repairable very similar to this. Everything had a sticker with the part number and all of the main stuff that you would replace even down to the wifi card was accessable via the back of the laptop. All of the ports were on ribbon cables as well. The cpu was even socketable. Its a shame laptops arent like this anymore.
@bluedistortions4 ай бұрын
"it's ugly and big and blocky" The same idiots who say this and prefer disposable e-waste products that have a two year life cycle say we need to save the planet by not burning any type of fuel.
@zactron19972 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video, and I love this laptop. This is such a well engineered solution that actually feels like it's intended to be sold to me, rather than tricking me into buying a new laptop every year or two.
@Desugan692 жыл бұрын
Excactly Ram doesn't work? Buy a new one for 50€ and put it in Hafing a spicy pillow ? Buy a new Batterie Need more space? buy a bigger ssd It feels weel ingenered and i love it
@tekkris2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Framework (right to repair) and System76 (firmware and software freedom) come together. I am seriously considering purchasing one of these for my next laptop and installing Pop on it.
@RobAryeeArc2 жыл бұрын
Love how the Framework team was confident enough to send Louis a laptop. #SkematicsOrDie
@confounded_feline2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a different configurator here although I chose DIY which I think cuts the price due to reduced labour costs on their end. As an enthusiast power user I'd like to build it myself anyway. Config: i5-1135G7 (8M cache, 4.2GHz max clock, 4C/8T) Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX210 1TB WD Black SN750 NVMe No OS (i.e DIY it) 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200 $1,073 + $100 pre-order deposit Then you can mix and match port expansion cards HDMI 2.0b Micro SD DisplayPort 1.4 • $19/each USB-A 3.2 Gen 2 USB-C - w/ 20V5A charging + DisplayPort Alt Mide • $9/each 250GB expansion card 1000MB/s - 375MB/s read/write respectively • $69 1TB expansion card 1000MB/s - 1000MB/s read/write respectively • $149 You'll want to add 4 of these ideally to cover all slots. Let's say you want 2xUSBs One of the video outs A microSD card reader You're looking at $1129 + pre-order deposit Given its USP and other cool features I don't think this is a bad price. Might'nt be such a bad rub vs your 2017 ThinkPad Louis.
@YeOldeKamikaze2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see bigger, workstation-tier models with more RAM slots and modular GPUs with official cross-generation upgradability. GPU modules could be MXM, DGFF or whatever HP is using on the Zbook 17 Fury G8.
@PrograError2 жыл бұрын
inb4 being able to run a complex render on blender with framework laptop
@earthtaurus55152 жыл бұрын
There was a time you could more readily buy MXM modules... but not so much any more. I suppose, theoretically if a OEM had a chip with all the compatible MXM modules stuffed into - it would be a breeze for plug and play. Sure, it would increase the B.O.M by a few cents but it would be worth it in the long run in terms of extensibility and upgradability. As users could simply update that chip with a driver update or similiar process. By doing this, we avoid having to mess around with the BIOS / UEFI not to mention custom bios and uefi updates.
@YeOldeKamikaze2 жыл бұрын
@@earthtaurus5515 What I don't understand is what makes "X" laptop incompatible with "Z" MXM GPU. Is it always a deliberate limitation put in place by the manufacturer in order to avoid having people upgrade undefinitely? When I first learned about MXM GPUs I thought they would be like what desktop PCs have been doing for ages now. Too bad most of the time a laptop's GPU can only be upgraded within certain "supported" models which are most often limited to a specific generation or architecture. Of course there are vbios and .inf file tricks for making "unsupported" models work but that shouldn't be the norm IMO. PD: From what I've seen on the internet, the HP Elitebook 8770W is probably one of the easiest to upgrade in this regard. I've seen it running a GTX1070 (pascal), which is two generations newer than then officially supported models (Quadro K series, Kepler).
@earthtaurus55152 жыл бұрын
@@YeOldeKamikaze It's down to a few things 1) The port for the MXM module - which the notches on the connector, the number of pins a module has on the connector. 2)The size of module, this because of the tight spaces inside a laptop chasis. 3)Support inside the BIOS/UEFI for plug and play - that's not much of an issue these days (since laptops have their own igpus, so installing drivers can be done at O/S level) but still needs to be considered in terms of ease of use, extensibility and repairability - which is why a dedicated chip for MXM modules is better. As users are not reliant on laptop OEMs updating the bios/uefi to support latest MXM modules. OEMs are notoriously bad when it comes to keeping laptop drivers and the bios updated. 4)I'm not entirely sure what happened with MXM and how the momentum was lost in creating a open standard for GPUs in laptops. As far as I can tell it fingers point to lost steam when Nvidia abandoned it and apparently Nvidia controls MXM-Sig as a subsidary... 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@backlogbuddies2 жыл бұрын
Modular gpus aren't possible because nvidia and amd restrict mobile gpus hard. You'll need to change how they work
@MarcelHuguenin2 жыл бұрын
I like this laptop. By-the-way Louis, your only-one-screwdriver-needed even has a spudger on the other end so you didn't need to use the blue one :-P
@MarcelHuguenin2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBarbu Thank you for clearing that out.
@cholling12 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBarbu The other end of the BIT is a Phillips, but the handle is a spudger.
@extropiantranshuman2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to fix my lenovo g500s alongside adding it to the repair wiki - gives me something to be motivated to work on it, like a workout app.
@adriancygan93912 жыл бұрын
G500 is a great piece of machine, still works flawlessly.
@extropiantranshuman2 жыл бұрын
@@adriancygan9391 if it had a metal casing, I'd be happy, as it keeps breaking. Hey - I'm glad it'll help others!
@willa87202 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, did you break the hinge?
@extropiantranshuman2 жыл бұрын
@@willa8720 Yes, but that's not the whole story as to why I'm writing here. The whole plastic exterior broke practically when I first got it (maybe a year in) including the plastic hinge covering and the hinge a little. But what completely broke it was the power cord not operating from being loosened too much from the plastic hinge being broken. It doesn't charge, so I took apart the entire computer and saw the internal screws got loose - that was the whole reason!
@noapparentfunction2 жыл бұрын
where's this repair wiki you're talking about? i have a T420. would be useful to have for later.
@Uuuuuuurrgggggghhhhh2 жыл бұрын
You're very entertaining as a team! Brilliant product, by the way!
@szaszm_2 жыл бұрын
I'm missing a few things from Framework: - trackpoint - ryzen version, hopefully with many cores to compile those gentoo packages quickly - A Logitech Unifying receiver + USB-A port module would be nice, external mouse+keyboard without using up a USB slot. - wired ethernet option - a touchscreen option would be nice Despite all this, I will consider it if I need to buy a laptop. I want them to succeed.
@_cheeso_2 жыл бұрын
- I think Lenovo owns the rights for trackpoint. But I'm not sure on that - Go visit their forum. They want to start working on Ryzen version - They are working on a hidden USB Port module - also 1G ethernet port
@Shawn_the_Protogen2 жыл бұрын
I don't think we have ever heard Louis this excited when reviewing a product. Nice job Framework. I asked them if they would make a heavy duty version, like the old Tough Books, I'm an auto mechanic and I would love to have a heavy duty Framework laptop that I use to diagnose cars.
@mfaizsyahmi2 жыл бұрын
Terry Davis would be smiling in x64 heaven when Louis installs a TempleOS on Erika's laptop
@americanlice8702 жыл бұрын
X32
@alfiegordon90132 жыл бұрын
RIP to the smartest programmer to ever live
@fungo66312 жыл бұрын
@@americanlice870 x64
@MiWill19882 жыл бұрын
Thank you Erika for making sure Louis got the right things on camera for review!
@BuddMcAwesome2 жыл бұрын
what an amazing machine. i wish they built one for gaming+ graphic's design
@millenniumf11382 жыл бұрын
"Can you install my favorite operating system?" "TempleOS?" Oh my GOD, I'm dying!! XD
@TheKeule332 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, the premium price you pay up front will safe you lots of money later on, when you simply repair the device yourself at home, instead of sending it to a repair shop and paying lots of money (+ get a wiped device back).
@mineborders2 жыл бұрын
Honestly wiping part is mostly understandable, if you ever worked on computers other than your own, you know how starting with a "clean slate" to diagnose issues feel like.
@TheKeule332 жыл бұрын
@@mineborders Yes. I have. And I always imaged the disk to an external drive first, before wiping. Companies could offer that. With a fee, but they could at least offer it.
@mineborders2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKeule33 Yeah, I agree, but sometimes copying can fail, get corrupted, etc, which is why most companies probably don't want to mess with data.
@woutervanr2 жыл бұрын
Even if it doesn't, just supporting the idea is a good enough reason.
@anishpadhi44103 ай бұрын
An hour really well spent. Awesome unboxing and review. I need to get me one of this.
@BromTeque2 жыл бұрын
I believe they're called "captive screws" when they're stuck to the screw hole like on the external screws for this laptop.
@kimcelarmycx2292 жыл бұрын
I remember when ThinkPads and even consumer Toshiba laptops had EXTERNAL removable batteries, guess we should be lucky to at least get this level of user replaceable or swappable battery
@tezcanaslan28772 жыл бұрын
Some are if i remember correctly still replacable,but are no longer on the outside
@Ryan_Carder2 жыл бұрын
cx
@Sam-tb9xu2 жыл бұрын
Tough books still have swappable batteries but start at $3k
@houghwhite4112 жыл бұрын
Most laptop still have replaceable battery, it's the matter of the source of the battery, it's almost impossible to find good quality battery
@grey56262 жыл бұрын
@@Sam-tb9xu Tough Books are impressive, but yeah, the swappable batteries (plural) are so that off grid power can be supplied while doing a battery replacement in situ. An unusual design, but I understand why they offer it. I mostly lament that Panasonic does not offer its Japanese model laptops in the USA. Unlike the Toughbook models, some weigh around 2lbs and have BluRay burners, so they are thin & light, and very versatile.
@FFAs2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showcasing this Louis! Can't wait to see it with an OS on it. Now excuse me while I go replace my Lenovo P50's keyboard I spilled something into..
@superslimanoniem47122 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Linux. (Gnu/Linux for pedants)
@grey56262 жыл бұрын
@@superslimanoniem4712 Ah yes, the same pedants who imagine there might be some user base for Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. LOL
@simmerke11112 жыл бұрын
@@superslimanoniem4712 If he does have time to further review it, I hope he does some linux variant and windows tbh. It'd be nice to see how both work since I (like many people) am stuck on windows for work.
@dennisgreen24952 жыл бұрын
Nice introduction to this device. I appreciate the concept and hope it takes off and flys high
@CiCaruana2 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see the day I legitimately want a new laptop because I won't be scared of irreparably breaking one or two components that renders everything else useless, but here we are. Today is also the day I found out Hannah Montana Linux is real and not just a nonsense meme.
@bonbonpony2 жыл бұрын
21:06 I like how they put labels on every part. This definitely makes it easier for a non-technician to locate all the parts.
@mohammadalhasan42532 жыл бұрын
I used to be obsessed with opening boxes while keeping them intact, then I started installing electric fixtures by hundreds a week and ended up doing it like Mr. Rossmann here! it feels so good sometimes to just open it clean but it kills me when it gets stuck so I just rip them apart now.
@l0k0482 жыл бұрын
i usually open food packets without damaging it, i unfold it until it's just a sheet of laminated paper :P
@inspiringengineer7 ай бұрын
13:32 The plug in ports are solidly held in the machine so the bord will be OK if you fall over the charge cable - if you do break the external port, just swap it out for another! ;)
@shinozsnow93542 жыл бұрын
I have a Batch 3 laptop coming from them next month! I could use a laptop for school but because I have a desktop, I don't need need one. It would be convenient, so I have looked several times and never once been satisfied about what my options are for the cost. I have a Batch 3 coming in October and I am sooo excited about it! The cost is quite reasonable, and finally I could convince myself of buying one.
@kimcelarmycx2292 жыл бұрын
I remember when you kinda bashed them and we all just dismissed it, glad they've made a comeback and rectified issues as far as schematics and so on
@reelrecaps79272 жыл бұрын
There are no schematics.
@avimakkar2 жыл бұрын
@@reelrecaps7927 repair shops can request schematic. Watch the video
@RACGump2 жыл бұрын
@@reelrecaps7927 Schematics are a problem because Framework doesn't make the Motherboards. So it's the motherboard manufacturer that has the final say in releasing them. But as said in the video, independent repair shops can get them.
@martincerny32942 жыл бұрын
@@RACGump Once first repair shop gets their hands on the schematic, everyone will. That said, They should've made sure the schematic issue is covered in their deal with the manufacturer.
@JoaoPedro-ki7ct2 жыл бұрын
@@martincerny3294 I don't think a client (Framework in this case) has the power to negotiate this way with the manufacturer
@InventorZahran2 жыл бұрын
I've used Ventoy to demo several Linux distributions, and it works flawlessly! Very easy to use, little to no fiddling around required, and it's even compatible with Secure Boot.
@reoencarcelado5904 Жыл бұрын
I love a ton of [stuff/]aspects about the Framework laptops but there's several things that are preventing me from getting them: The Framework laptops currently-have too few ports. (Only 4 :-( ). I need a *minimum* of: ● 3 USB-3.0 ports ● 1 dedicated HDMI port (with the most-recent version of HDMI) ● 1 dedicated DisplayPort port (with the most-recent version of DisplayPort); (thus-far, it doesn't matter-to-me if it's full-size DisplayPort or mini-DisplayPort. I can always use an adapter (ie. mini--to--Full-size DisplayPort cable) if I need DisplayPort; or now that DisplayPort uses a "USB type C"-plug, it'd be even easier to use DisplayPort on a laptop computer). ● 1 dedicated Gigabit-Ethernet RJ45 network-port ● 1 DEDICATED full-size SD-memory-card slot ● *Dedicated* charge port (so you don't waste one of the 4 limited available ports, for charging [the Framework laptop]) ● Externally-accessible removable battery (this would help so you do-not have to open-up the [guts of the] laptop *just* to get at the battery) ● DEDICATED combo--headphone-microphone 3.5mm port (which the Framework laptop already has, thank-goodness) If I put in 3 USB-ports, I can only-put USB-C on the fourth port (preferrably the upper-left-hand-corner port, for charging the laptop there), because it uses USB-C to charge the laptop. • (In essence, come to think of it, you only have 3 slots [available to you], because you need a USB-C slot to charge the laptop. Otherwise, you can't charge the laptop. [And when the laptop's-battery runs out, you have a sitting-duck/fancy-paperweight]). I would have no room to put-in the Ethernet port, or the HDMI port, or the DisplayPort port, because there are only 4 slots, and I need more-slots-than-that to put all-the-stuff-that-I-need on my laptop. :-( For these reasons, I cannot currently-get a Framework laptop. (A non--soldered-onto-the-motherboard-processor (ie. [what--in-the-industry--USED-to-be-called] a SOCKETED processor) would *also* be nice).
@sdog3002 жыл бұрын
1:04:45 ish. I love the number pad on my laptop. But I mainly use it for excel spreadsheets & some light gaming. Having it off center keeps me from hitting the track pad when I’m using WASD.
@KrisKustomPaint2 жыл бұрын
I found your channel while searching for ts100 reviews. I'm glad you did a review on this. Thanks for everthing.
@UnjustifiedRecs2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the world of Louis Rossmann, the dudes a legend
@pee-buddy2 жыл бұрын
TS100... is that the new Terminator???
@p_serdiuk2 жыл бұрын
@@pee-buddy Soldinator
@ZeroCrystal2 жыл бұрын
If they made their laptop with Ryzen processors, I would have bought one. I hope these guys get to continue.
@ArthursHD2 жыл бұрын
Also it is to small for me, I would go for 15.6" This is probably only company which could potentially have a trackpad with 3 dedicated buttons and surfice with tackle feedback different to the case. I hate flimsy TouchPads. Also Gigantic touchpads are annoying. Just swiping for ages, some even on max speed.
@kycrush86572 жыл бұрын
I think it was because of thunderbolt, thats an Intel thing only, for now. They couldn't do modular hdmi or display ports through basic usb-c, because of the latency without thunderbolt. They are trying to get better stuff, also gpu support for later. Thats what I heard anyways.
@yosyp59052 жыл бұрын
@@kycrush8657 AMD motherboards have had thunderbolt support for years, albeit a slower protocol if I recall correctly
@arbayer22 жыл бұрын
Give her some more goddamn cookies, Louis 💜 I do think it's a really cool experience to have enough thought put into this that you face less anxiety just trying to solve your own damn problem (and sometimes the manufacturer's) without using a wallet in the process.
@NicosLeben2 жыл бұрын
@26:20 I think it will explained later but the screws are actually color coded so you can not make anything wrong if you use always the right color.
@SeanSpangler-IT-BOK2 жыл бұрын
Lol put the install on the extra USB storage that came with it
@rossmanngroup2 жыл бұрын
My desktop is under my desk, and the USB-C port is in the back of the computer. There is no USB-C port on the front of my computer. So, this would've required kneeling down and going under my desk to the back of my computer....... at midnight.... I'm a brave man, but I'm not superman.
@DarrellVermilion2 жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup I can relate. 😂😂
@Aviator74772 жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup 🤦🤦
@mojolotz2 жыл бұрын
holy shit you're right you could just slap each OS you need on a different expansion card.
@Bourinos022 жыл бұрын
@@mojolotz But why though? :D
@Kevin-jv7mz2 жыл бұрын
TIL Louis wears underwear with half a ball hanging out and a vertical brown fissure in the back.
@jftechdrones2 жыл бұрын
Not true! He doesn't have a dry asshole, he has a clean and dry asshole! (old video reference btw)
@mjc09612 жыл бұрын
Hahaha at half a ball hanging out 🤣 Definitely not a brown fissure though, as Louis has told us in the past he washes his asshole rather than drying it.
@MikkoRantalainen2 жыл бұрын
Spare parts are now listed on their marketplace! It seems that all parts are available (prices already shown, still "coming soon" for many parts so cannot actually be ordered) and only the higher end motherboards seem quite expensive. SSD storage devices also seem a bit more expensive for the same parts than prices here in Finland. It also seems that they're going to sell alternative keyboard layouts but the Swedish keyboard layout is still missing. It appears that if you don't mind what the actual labels say you can use "British English" layout because it has correct amount of physical buttons with correct shapes. It also seems that the case design is sensible enough so that you can purchase just the layout and keep the full top panel as-is. Interestingly, British English layout is $10 cheaper than the identical layout with blank buttons (which should be cheaper to manufacture because you don't need to print anything to the keys).
@shellderp2 жыл бұрын
they put so much love into this. awesome
@Permafry421082 жыл бұрын
Already ordered mine for the october shipment. so excited!;
@joshcook85862 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@CSab-ui2jt2 жыл бұрын
Me three!
@devjock2 жыл бұрын
ngl, this is amazing. There should be more companies that respect their clientele enough to make laptops that modular. No glue in sight, everything nicely screwed together, Phoneblok like modular ports, omg.. I'm so happy this exists!
@bbbbbbb512 жыл бұрын
You mean the dude who had a great idea, but let Google invest in his idea & eventually scrap it? He chose that money over innovation.
@devjock2 жыл бұрын
@@bbbbbbb51 Google wasn't supposed to shelf the idea, but yeah, that's what happened..
@El.Duder-ino2 жыл бұрын
People have to push for right to repair and more products done as this one. Thank you Rossman and BIG tx to Framework company and community.
@D3moknight2 жыл бұрын
Hi Louis, the captured screws on the chassis is something Dell has been doing for several years now. Of all the mass-produced laptops, the Dell Latitude laptops are the easiest to work on for me as a tech.
@wellyup78792 жыл бұрын
Saw the design of this thing over a month ago and immediately preordered one. It was the thoughtfulness of the design that won me over. So many companies pay lipservice to the concept of good design, but when an engineer spends the time to really think about this stuff, it shows, that's hard to fake.
@KaletheQuick2 жыл бұрын
This was presented to me as if it was live three days after it aired. WTF.
@mskiptr2 жыл бұрын
This stream is from before a dozen-or-so hours, isn't it?
@OLBastholm2 жыл бұрын
I like this laptop a lot, but Erica being absolutely hilarious was my main reason for watching to the end
@heyarno2 жыл бұрын
I suspect the modular ports, make it cheaper to offer multiple configurations. Since it also makes repairability easier, it's a win win.
@DankMoist2 жыл бұрын
At this point I trust this self proclaimed "bum" more than any elite corporation. keep doing what you love and fighting for your passion and you will be a hear voice that shakes foundations, like you already have.
@CSab-ui2jt2 жыл бұрын
Made my first appearance in a Rossmann stream at 42:10 :). I'm really wishing this company huge success. I've put in a pre-order that will ship out in October and I couldn't be more excited!
@themightyquinn13432 жыл бұрын
My only two gripes so far is the relatively small amount of I/O, and the lack of a rj45 port. That being said, there are multi-usb and ethernet expansion cards in the works currently, and I’m really excited to see what’s in store for the future
@jarradtait53222 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@npgoalkeeper2 жыл бұрын
4 mo late, but having upwards of 4 USB4 ports feels like a lot of IO, considering the options for docks