First Look - Gotrek & Felix Rework - Big Changes - Thrones of Decay - Total War Warhammer 3

Gotrek and Felix got a huge change in update 5.0! Now they are BOTH legendary heroes and are permanent to your faction! Let's discuss the changes!
First Look - Gotrek & Felix Rework - Big Changes - Thrones of Decay - Total War Warhammer 3
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[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

Video 4 of 5 today lots today! Lots to talk about :) Videos will be dropping every hour!Also I'm live over at twi as thegreatbookofgrudges there's a link in the description :) pop by an say hi!

[@Random-wo2sw]

Hey thx for rushing all the stuff out

[@MN-rp5hu]

Thank you for covering the changes on Gotrek and Felix! I can't wait to play this new update for two of my favorite characters in the Warhammer series!

[@bjorn-falkoandreas9472]

No Kinslayer, I see? Well, it probably still is Too Soon.

[@TisTheWay]

I would like your video, but youtube said I hit my 'quota'

[@Atercor-kx8hs]

Lethal Romancer with +10 freaking growth send me rolling. Felix, my man, is an absolute chad.

[@piotrkosakowski7071]

it should come with some public order penalty:p you know this angry fathers chasing after him:p

[@vahlen5281]

​@@piotrkosakowski7071 And husbands. And brothers. And sons, probably.

[@NP3GA]

​@@vahlen5281his or others?

[@legalizetren]

Single handedly causing population growth

[@radiobehemoth9334]

Shinzo Abe's Greatest Warrior: Felix

[@CommanderBohn]

>Both now as LHs >Permanently part of your faction >That quest battle >Those skills >That Lethal Romancer Yep. They did the two justice.

[@robbailie5878]

Yeah they corrected what they got wrong in their original iteration. Couldn't have asked for more to be honest.

[@CreativeName457]

10:56 PLUS 10 GROWTH. Is that Felix or Gengis Khan lmao

[@holysword876]

The rizzler

[@calebbarnhouse496]

Gotrek kills so many minor enemies in the region nothing is able to kill the odd person

[@user-vj6cy1yp1h]

​@@calebbarnhouse496more like he fucks everything that moves

[@Guaguadeath]

No.. just no ​@@holysword876

[@teosandev6116]

Yes. Theres a reason slaanesh wants him bad.

[@stalhein62]

Gotrek, Felix, Ulrika, Malakai, now we just need Max and Snorri to round out the group And of course Thanquol...

[@jpurgal]

Don’t forget Boneripper!

[@grindcoredome]

Yes-yes!

[@Keesidia]

Get a generic light wizard and a generic dragon slayer in the meantime

[@jaspermooren5883]

And Garagrim Ironfist!

[@TheEarlofManwhich]

Wonder when we'll see Thanq... maybe Endtimes? Don't know whether I see khorne or slaanesh getting updated with skaven

[@Stolskai]

People are talking about Lethal Romancer, but the real fun one is sweet talker- The implication that Felix can sweet talk *any* faction out of trespassing penalty, including factions like Skaven and Lizardmen is utterly hilarious.

[@bluemilkalienmonster522]

Thank GOD they made Gotrek a LH instead of LL. It was annoying to have him be a LL because then you would have to raise an army just to use him, something that you couldn't always afford when he came.

[@chilliewhk]

And that you can have them as permanent heroes now. It always annoyed me that they you only recruited them for a limited duration.

[@holysword876]

I had to use a mod to turn them into LH (its a rather decent mod) but now that its now official Im so glad that this is a thing. The only real 'downside' to this new update is mainly just the level 15 requirement as I would rather have access to them slightly earlier, but that isnt really a big deal.

[@kubka4]

@@holysword876 You get to lvl 15 pretty quickly usually.

[@yumanoid5753]

Well he was quite usefull as a lone lord to siege-lock a city until the main army arrives. I always pictured this more like the two making trouble inside the city not realy sieging proper.

[@Azraiel213]

Karl is so busy that level 15 will comenpretty quickly, ​@@holysword876.

[@draconomega]

Ok. Now I am certain. This is *the* *best* update in the history of TW: Warhammer

[@rsspinal]

Every new video he uploads there is something new I absolutely love. Best update ever.

[@TheOrdomalleus666]

So it took gutting and flaying CA alive to finally get them to work. I support this action.

[@draconomega]

@@TheOrdomalleus666 We only had to crucify them, make a great eagle eat their liver, every day, for a couple of years, then had SEGA smite them with the fury of a thousand suns :D

[@TheOrdomalleus666]

@@draconomega Yup. I actually called SEGA "the wrath of Zeus" when telling a buddy a while ago.

[@killerace7174]

Idk it's hard to top the WAAAAAAAGGGHHH update back in wh2

[@HansAlRachid]

Oh wow, now that's definitely not a change I ever expected - neat, they were always such a miniscule part of the game that I never really engaged with them at all, so this could definitely be impactful. Would also make the Malakai campaign much more thematic, that's always appreciated.

[@froodem5528]

Good news! Malakai starts with the duo as part of his campaign bonuses

[@silverseer573]

I can already hear Gotrek's epic freakout. Finally managed to get into a battle he can't win, and the frikkin' Emperor Karl-Franz himself appears out of nowhere!

[@raindrain1]

Meanwhile Felix is fervently hoping nobody present remember he's still technically a wanted man in the Empire, *specifically* for taking part in a riot against a law brought by Karl Franz.

[@chrisd7803]

As someone who can speak german, I never knew it would be fun to listen to someone pronounce "Geheimnisnacht" so wrong in so many different ways

[@Mortarion-xt9wp]

Just wait until they learn of Sigmaringen (actual German town)

[@GotrekGurnisson]

As an American would it be grey hiem nis knock phonetically?

[@Tejbegrizzly]

​@@GotrekGurnissonGeh - Heym - Nis - Nacht (like grasp)

[@GotrekGurnisson]

@@Tejbegrizzly Thankyou :) I’m running the ttrpg and that day has a lot to do with the plot :D

[@Gelthon]

​@@GotrekGurnissonIt isn't even close...

[@blaaaghy8300]

They are making quite a comeback for Total Warhammer 3, this new dlc with all the reworks just looks amazing.

[@zacharyjackson1829]

honestly i havent felt so great about Warhammer in a long time. I still feel like the Empire needs more of their legendary lords in the game implemented but my god has the changes that have been revealed really go a long way to improve all 3 races. As a Dwarf lover i wish they did a little bit more in terms of rounding out their roster rather than just adding a bunch of more slayer units when we really needed large mass units that can stop large mass heavy factions from just rolling all over you but that's really it

[@Johnnythefirst]

@@zacharyjackson1829 They now have literal flying battlecruisers. Dwarfs are going to be quite OP in campaign.

[@zacharyjackson1829]

@Johnnythefirst you won't get them till tier 5 and you better pray you aren't facing against anyone with flying units

[@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou]

the only thing i am not happy about is the generic chaos lord of nurgle and sorc hero of nurgle it seems people love reskin or recolors rather a good reskin >:(

[@Dusk237]

@@zacharyjackson1829 the thunderbarge actually has an ability that makes it so fast it can evade flying units whilst still shooting

[@RebelCannonClub74]

We're gettin the band back together, now we just need Max, Kat and if we can't have Snorri then we can just ally with Grombrindal. "Snorri wants beer" actually makes me cry...

[@ksheehank]

Are the post-zombieslayer books worth reading? My knowledge basically boils down to “they had to kill all the interesting characters off because they weren’t bland enough for AoS” lol

[@RebelCannonClub74]

Only road of skulls was fine for me(Kanto is best girl of the whole series) but the ending two books kinslayer and slayer made me cry…

[@Johnnythefirst]

@@ksheehank Both Kinslayer and Slayer are very cool, but also quite depressing. They're some of the best in my opinion.

[@DIEGhostfish]

​@ksheehank I don't even read the final slayer book that randomly switches from post-storm to End Times. And apparently does Snorri and Gotrek both *really* dirty.

[@generalgrizzly7914]

​@RebelCannonClub74 I got to zombieslsyer where do I go afterwards because I tried starting Kinslayer but it feels like there's another time skip. So where do I start after zombieslayer?

[@DarthEnderX]

Outstanding! Hopefully the Green Knight will get a similar treatment.

[@demondarkin4065]

hell yea!

[@AliothAncalagon]

I like it. Never even activated them for my account, because I simply see no point in having characters that are not there to stay, but now they seem to be actually useful. CA really going from win to win with this one.

[@kharnthebetrayer8251]

Only real use i ever had for them, was sitting them to buff a garrison is a place likely to be attacked. They' were fairly strong lord/hero duo, a good addition to a Garrison. But that's about it. Being Temporary, you wouldn't build them an army, since you'd be spending those 20 turns with a lord that isn't gaining levels

[@conradwerth6954]

Gonna have the dream team of Malakai, Gotrek, Felix, and Ulrika. Here we come chaos!

[@pugglythegrey]

Ulrika is only fir Kislev and Empire, Malakai can’t get her. 🐶

[@froodem5528]

@@pugglythegrey Yes he can! They enabled her quest for Malakai.

[@pugglythegrey]

@@froodem5528 I jus learned dis yesterday. 🐶

[@markgreen8345]

This is one of the best changes so far taking a VERY popular mod and implementing it right thank you

[@rabblerouserorc8649]

This was one of my most desired changes for ToD, the second I saw Malakai I knew Gotrek and Felix would need changes. I am so glad for this as it really does honor the pair as the legendary duo they are. Plus its nice I can tick off another mod from my loading list since I used the G&F Agent Forever mods.

[@Eclipsed_Embers]

love the fact that they're permanent now to be honest I never had issues with Gotrek being a Legendary Lord, I've read Skavenslayer (admittedly that's the only book in the series that I've read) and Felix seems like a natural leader that can easily get an army together (and therefore is Lord material) and ultimately he follows Gotrek. I'm sure they'll still be good as Legendary Heroes I wonder when their nemesis will show up...

[@maxanderson8872]

After this, I'd love to see a quest battle, and unique models for the ubersreik five. Maybe they are in a skaven ambush and need to be rescued? Or set it in a settlement battle with the player controlling the five and leading them through city street like a mission from vermintide

[@kingfoxxbox]

First time ubersreik or helmgart gets attacked they appear would skyrocket this game into my GOAT

[@undertakernumberone1]

11:44 HEY! Beastslayer was the book with the Tzeentchian Chaos Lord! The Book with the Beastmen antagonists was "Shamanslayer"! THat skill should be called "Shamanslayer"!!! :P

[@dusty0559]

That fight choreo from gotrek and felix looked fking amazing and I wish we had more of that!

[@Vernon013]

Love this! Now we just need them to finally bring us the Red Duke!

[@TheBICBOIChannel]

And Boris!

[@Baltazar009]

This + new units and heroes for dwarfs. Now we can make a proper slayer army!

[@savageassassin8548]

it is difficult like the warhammer 1 quest battles me: flashbacks of that stupid mannfred quest where 5 orc shamen kept pelting me with vindictive gaze

[@Never_heart]

I am so happy it is voice acted. One of the more lowkey disappointments on Total Warhammer 3 is that the tutorial was so well voice acted with such an engaging story, and nothing since in this game has really tried to repeat that ambition

[@sammartin8746]

I was wondering if they’d get a rework, I’m glad to hear they have

[@blackwolf0202]

Oh man! when i saw the trailer for throne of decay i dreamed of this rework, YES!!!!

[@andreasottohansen7338]

8:06 I don't know about Quest Battle ease, i have been traumatised by the PAIN that is the 3v3 for the Plaque of Sotek.

[@Zeldrake]

Gor-Rok's Battle for Itza and the Lizardmen Lord Kroak battle are also pretty nasty too

[@ValtheJean]

Fantastic change. Now I'll actually use them. I never bothered because they go away. Having them permanent is so much better.

[@Battledroid015]

As someone who's reading all the novels at the moment and is about to finish Dragonslayer, I'm loving the referances and flavour text in the skill line.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Imagine if they redid the ubersreik 5 as a quest battle like this, but against endless skaven.

[@Azraiel213]

Amber Wizards are actually okay nowdays. Flock of Doom is a very solid spammable spell, they provide the only way to get any summons on the Empire list, and they are the only Imperial Wizards that can ride a Griffon.

[@trowachess]

no more Short changed!

[@102728]

Kudos for the 5 videos in 1 day you madman! Also yes, the changes to all the dlc factions seem amazing so far. To the point where I'm *not* starting a new dawi campaign just because I wanna wait for the dlc to drop. Hope this level of quality will be maintained with future dlc, this content appears to be the kind of stuff I'm glad to spend money on.

[@phil8821]

well this was well timed... I just started reading Gotrek and Felix by William King:)

[@dramen]

HELL...IT'S ABOUT TIME! Really good, really good stuff.

[@NoOnesBCE]

The dlc sounds amazing, as long as it will be polished

[@TheMrYadrian]

That's really cool battle and update to both of them.

[@patatacaliente8270]

At this point, Thrones of Decay does look to me like the update I was hoping it would be. Looking forward to it.

[@NisGaarde]

Gotrek & Felix _are_ quintessential Warhammer. I've been in the hobby since 1993, so I'll join you in feeling old 😅

[@thynellynator]

This new direction of theming the battles and campaigns of characters towards a story whilst remaining in a sandbox enviroment is really hitting the spot, plus if the final DLC is called End Times and its just a themed destruction of the IE map thatd be kinda amazing lol

[@Garret007]

I secretly hoped for a rework when I saw them in the trailer!!!!

[@chiddy786]

Love all these re works. Feels like a return to form from the WTW2 days. It also feels a bit like they're trying to make up for years of abandonment in terms of proper support and content for WTW3. I'm back to being excited for this game and its DLC again.

[@QwH007]

Good work, I hope that CA keeps up the good work

[@luisaravenawerner41]

Great!! Having them like legendary héroes makes a lot more sence! All the changes are being awsome!

[@Steven-pb3zu]

Thank you for testing out so much for the community man

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

I'm here for you guys :)

[@Phoenix-sc6di]

So glad they are heroes now.

[@odin1185]

Every change theyve made sounds great cant wait

[@Viatoris_Notas]

Good video. Good content. Thank you so much!

[@x31415]

By far my favourite change and update!! Can't wait!

[@Amenema]

This update alone is all I needed. Everything else is just icing on this absolutely perfect cake.

[@DreamMarko]

I was also expecting Slaneshe update with Dark Elves and one other factions, maybe Vampire Counts.

[@chadroy16]

amazing hard work as always.

[@ryanrockstar16]

Also noticed they Mispelled Kirsten in Felix's skill tree

[@aliserkansar335]

This is by far one of the best changes in the patch. They are exteemely important characters in the lore they shouldn't be temporary characters. Great job CA 👍

[@DeltaComp]

All we need is Snorri Nosebiter and Max Schreiber to get added.

[@Pandarian300]

Grudge, please check If ulrika can be now recruited by dwarfs and cathay.

[@Ereinion25]

Having them permanent is sooo good. Actually looking forward to the update. Think ill start a new Empire or Dwarves campaign. Not sure yet if I'm going get the DLC, but ill be playing the update for sure

[@igorwisniewski9412]

They finally may be fun to have and play with.

[@josgretf2800]

my man you are on a roll today!

[@simoncodrington]

Love more quest battles, we need way more themed / special battles here. I'm all for making new types of battles, hopefully without the tower defence aspects

[@hoyer]

would like a regiment of renown of mananns blades. And Max and Snorri and Kat

[@justian1772]

Huge huge improvement. Wow.

[@DJM_64]

Any idea if they’ll be available to recruit in coop?

[@sesambernd6467]

Amazing!! Love those 2❤

[@BoldElf5]

How do legendary hero's work in multiplayer campaings? If one player was Empire and the Other Cathey or Kislev etc is it first come first serve?

[@darkhorse505]

This is great! I’ve always thought though that gotrex and felix should 2 characters but the same entity. I mean, gotrex and felix are always together as one. Kinda like the sisters of twilight you know.

[@sunwheel666]

Hey Nathan, I greatly enjoyed these videos and looking forward to 5.0. Do you have any insight regarding the in-game missions that were there for every single faction in WH2 Mortal Empires, but are completely absent in WH3 Immortal Empires? There was an immersive overarching narrative when they existed, but without them Immortal Empires plays like a sandbox and nothing more. Is there any chance they will return in the future, with scenarios that set the stage for the End Times?

[@SikhiJedi]

How do you have 4 regiments of renown, my regiments always cap at 1 unit

[@Archer-1453]

It’s almost very never gonna happen but I’m holding out for a playable Ubersreikt Five.

[@dyinginfashion2558]

I’d say gorduz is one of the most op heroes I’ve come across personally at least early on in the chaos dwarf campaign. He just buffs hobgoblins which you have a lot of, then you can continue to buff them in your own skill line. I rocked a hobgoblin army up until the last minute 😂

[@lukelarson4996]

As long as gotrix is alive or within a radius of Felix. Felix should be made unbreakable as well. Additionly if Felix dies in combat Gotrix should get a major stat boost and regain some of his lost heath (a second wind) Modders pls 🙏

[@raynightshade8317]

Finally a reason to recruit them. I still wish they had more quest battle for items rather than just giving you them for leveling. Give you alot more insite into the characters with the speech

[@rubenfeijoolopez8572]

I can finally have Ulrika join their army !! Yeeeees !

[@ryanrockstar16]

I wish they had bonuses for being in an army with Malakai and Ulrika we're so closing to having all of the main cast of the books

[@zacharyjackson1829]

you dont like Beast Wizards? they're so cool though! You get a mage with a freaking gryphon mount and the amber spear spell is SOOOOOO good for taking care of single entities, which empire needs, and casting it while flying makes terrain unlikely to screw up the spell. they're so clutch

[@southcoastdub]

I love that there is a rework for them. I used the mod every playthrough. However according to lore with gotrek in first book he fought goblins first and lost his eye. Kinda sad to see him fighting slannesh out the gate.

[@Alex-qe1ir]

In fairness to CA - Gotrek does lose an eye at the end of the first book - the first short story in the book has them fighting a Slaanesh cult on Geheimnisnacht. Sounds like they used some creative license to honour that. Though Felix would probably be shitting his pants, thinking the empire must really want vengeance at his taking part in that riot . . . .

[@JamesAce]

Absolutely grand this update

[@comradecat3678]

I’ve used the mod that makes them both permanent hero’s since it started

[@Grauer33]

Any bonus for Felix if he is in the same army as Magda?

[@Mrmisticum]

Wow. Very cool.

[@BlizzardAcolyte]

Fiends of Slaneesh proving their worth and pulling their weight as usual I see, even against a super-veteran

[@Pancake699]

so the empire can recruit ulrika and now gotrek and felix as lh jeez that alot of damage

[@qwertpoo1]

Big big big big HYPE

[@blanck7457]

Wait, does gotrek get his trait when he is wounded and respawns?

[@Guillimann]

God I love this ao much, I’m so happy

[@ryanharrison682]

Is it available if you play as dwarves

[@AlexTailor1992]

Cant wait to play dwarves in new plc update!

[@andrewames247]

See, I'm a Dawi regular, and I wonder how effective two Gyrocopter wings, a Gyrobomber wing, and a Runesmith would be as a base to fight this fight. Toss in some grumpy old bastards (Longbeards) and some younger stags looking to cut their teeth (Warriors), and I think you'd be pretty well set...

[@hellboy7312]

Elfslayer, zombieslayer, orcslayer? What about dragonslayer, vampire slayer and trollslayer?

[@TheTurbanatore]

Congratulations on 28 years in the Warhammer hobby

[@Koyu_Ruh]

Yuan Bo's Legendary Hero army will be even more delicious now.

[@christiantarantino4309]

What’s gonna happen to his defeat trait now?

[@Zarastro54]

Still wild to me that they don’t have progressive building icons as vanilla.

[@Nirual86]

like the changes, but not too happy to see yet another quest battle that seems pretty impossible at the level it becomes available. Honestly I think these would work better separated out so you fight them with a premade army.

[@Slouworker]

This makes me cautiously optimistic about the future of this game

[@horrocko]

Not sure if Felix would actually like to "escape the Prince of Pleasure's domain"...

[@alfarabi73]

Also, Gotrek and Felix's gears, please? ;)

[@ageofno-01]

Are they going to make it so you can actually recruit them when they turn up, or are they just going to leave it bugged?

[@JanneBernards]

maybe watch the video before asking stupid questions.