First Look - Marshall Origin 50C

[@premierguitar]

Read the review: bit.ly/MarshallOrigin50C

[@joaopacheco491]

Vietnam made. Don"t waste your money. Buy an used 8080.

[@davidallen346]

This amp didn't sound too good in Anderton 's demo, yet don't sound half bad here go figured.

[@AuntAlnico4]

Premier Guitar *That amp sounds killer ! I don't know what everyone is comparing and complaining about !?

[@mvnjuan]

João Pacheco so? It sounds killer.

[@willdenham]

Did you guys smoke a little doobage before filming?

[@OldSethOnetooth]

That rug really ties the room together.

[@OddBerries]

Ghostweasel sure does Dude !

[@mrabrasive51]

if you're gay!

[@dustinscott5628]

Be a shame if someone pissed on it.

[@allgunsblazed9106]

@@mrabrasive51 just not a necessary thing to say

[@ChillingwithMalc]

Guitar playing area needs a nice rug.

[@charleslivingston803]

It sounds a lot like a 60’s Marshall to me. If people don’t like it, then they just don’t like 60’s Marshalls. It doesn’t have the depth and sparkle of a JTM45, but it’s half the price. I’m sure it could benefit from a speaker upgrade but otherwise it seems great. The flubby low end was part of the original Marshall tone. I know some people don’t like it, but if you want Hendrix/Cream/Kossoff tone, you won’t get there with a tight sound.

[@stevensalinas1994]

exactly thank you

[@NolalanD]

You also won't get there with something you can stand next to in a 12X12 modern house room, without deafening yourself that is. Rest of your comment is right on the money. This sounds enough like it without the volume to be instantly relatable.

[@Diax1324]

This'll do Eric Johnson tones. Turn treble and middle all the way down, bass up to taste, and jam an MXR fet driver up front. Cheap EJ.

[@myerkord]

i agree this amp kicks ASS and 5 watts for a small room practice mode

[@adamwatson6916]

Kossoff tone is far from flubby its has lots of kerrang.

[@samright4661]

When John does a review it’s like being at a friends house drinking and jamming. He’s a cool cat

[@markhoskins]

4:50 - Yup, that's exactly what the tilt control is. It's like you've jumped the normal and bright channels. The tilt pot lets you mix 'em. As an old style Marshall lover I'm going to have to get me one of these. Most likely a head, probably the 20. :)

[@marshall]

Thanks for the great review John and the team at Premier Guitar 🤘🏼

[@napalmhardcore]

Why does nobody seem to have the same figures for the power scaling? On Marshall's site it says 50W, 10W and 5W. On Sweetwater it says 50W, 10W and 0.5W. On PMTOnline they're saying 50W, 25W and 12.5W. What are the correct approximate output levels?

[@bradcarroll3719]

This is a great formula Marshall!! It’s the Hot Rod Deluxe of Marshall’s. If you can’t get great sound, you’re doing something wrong.

[@pauloesterle9823]

Always love your videos brother and you're the man when it comes to Rig Rundown

[@rocowolf918]

People talk s*** on these amps.. I'm telling you man I've been through all of them 45 years of playing this amps and sick as hell on its own if you want more Distortion throw pedal in front of it. it takes them real good badass amps.

[@DamienAshorTV]

I think this amp sounds absolutely fantastic.

[@liamomalley5851]

People say they don’t get enough distortion out of these amps and it’s like dude just get a f--ing distortion pedal

[@221b-l3t]

My DSL401 doesn't have a huge load more gain than this and I'm selling it for this tomorrow. I have 2 overdrives and a Rat, I don't think I will not be able to play heavy metal. A lot of great heavy metal was made with a Plexi, that has even less gain without the boost engaged.

[@patreidcocolditzcastle632]

just got a 50 watt head today,got rid of all the tubes re bias whacked in mullards all round the thing just got better.for the money brilliant,might be come my main amp i think

[@malkasianmuses]

Bohlinger's slide playing is the bomb...

[@seanantley1965]

LOVE IT!!! Wish it had good ol' spring reverb, but still... and as usual your P90 loaded Gold Top LP sounds amazing !!!

[@guitarron1963]

im always so inspired by johns playing!!

[@canaanlawrence7351]

John tried the Les Paul Gold Top at 6:45.

[@rowdyjohnson6026]

the tilt control basically replaces the bright/normal inputs with a pot that not only allows you to choose bright, dark, or jump the inputs like a plexi, but with the pot gives you much more flexibility in how much of each. all the way left is "normal" all the way right is bright, noon is balanced mix like jumping inputs on a plexi, but it gives ya all the stuff in between as well. probably my favorite feature next to the amazing old school tone it produces.

[@brianwood7237]

@ rowdy johnson... Thank you for the public service announcement explaining the Tilt knob other reviews don't really do nearly as well as what you just said thinking about getting this amp that helped me very much thank you

[@soundknight]

Isn't 'tilt' just a blend between the two standard marshall amp inputs?? So it's pre-jumped as a circuit and all the way clockwise is completely high channel and all the way anti clockwise is all normal channel.

[@claytonmurrayguitar]

Man I was thinking about picking up a tone master. Been playing a Deluxe for years and just wanted something lighter. But man I am so digging that tone.

[@soundknight]

My first tube amp was a hybrid valvestate 100, it NEVER sounded this good. Having said that this amp clearly isn't an Astoria or a vintage original or any other boutique but it's phenomenal for the price!

[@bryanclarke1927]

Kind of tired of the Marshall haters. I have the head version of this and it's great. But do agree this amp needs to be cranked to get the best...and it's LOUD! Also agree the speaker in the combo isn't the best. The main problem it would seem is that the gain structure is far cleaner than the archetypal 'rock' Marshall sound of the 70's./80's. It's a cleaniish amp to be fair and meant to be retro. We'd all luv a jtm. But they're 3or 4 times the price in the uk.

[@GuitarsnCars]

Bryan Clarke same here on the haters! It’s definitely aimed at those interested in more vintage sounds but it’s got a fair bit more gain available than old plexi types. Time was that you just couldn’t get overdrive without cranking the amp all the way hence why people often use attenuators with um these days. The origin seems to give similar gain level to a cranked early master volume like a JMP , the predecessor to the 800.

[@bryanclarke1927]

Just snobbery because the amp is made in Vietnam. It's a good amp for the money. Just buy one of the heads and match with a loaded cab of choice.

[@bryanclarke1927]

Just want to add my main amp (made by a different company) blew a valve recently so my Origin head has become the number one. It has excelled in the area it was,designed for. Huge headroom with pedals. Got me out of a deep hole gigging wise. Really cuts through the mix. No offence to John but audio here doesn't reflect the amps real sonic capabilities. For five-hundred British it's a true bargain!

[@brianwood7237]

Takes P-90s real well too... Great demo John!

[@DanLeRoy]

killer playing as usual john!

[@DamianS1893]

I appreciate your review. It sounds better in this presentation. I'm contemplating buying the 50 Watt Head and 2x12 Speaker Cabinet

[@Mr.Steve-O]

Just bought this amp used in mint condition for $400, could not pass it up. Sounds best with my Tele, Strat single coils and also amazing with my Hagstrom Swede LP. It's a great pedal / tone building amp, perfect to dial in all your guitars due to the single channel application

[@tylerwillison4962]

Looks like a real value. Killer playing, too! How is this at bedroom levels on the .5w setting... still too much?

[@doctorskull8197]

How much does it weigh? I’m tired of breaking my back lugging gear in and out of a venue at 3AM in bad weather. Especially when I’m wasted.

[@philippberry4900]

Get a hand truck. Best $30 you can spend.

[@daveravens51]

Got it recently. It shreds with an overdrive pedal

[@easyfly]

I just like listening to John play, could do this all day,

[@sonnyducks]

I don't get the hate for this amp. I played the 50c and 50h in person and I really dug it.

[@motorrebell]

I have the 20 watt combo version - Even the 10 inch speaker sounds Awesome !

[@marvinstorm9153]

Ignorance. Ignore. I suspect these guys want a Blues breaker. Go for it, spend more and screw your back up.

[@dandyism7288]

I see so many people only used to fake polished helix or whatever digital guitar sound . I think that’s the new generation of ears.

[@bryanclarke1927]

This amp only comes alive when it's cranked. And it's very loud...even on the low setting. It's unforgiving of your playing but the rerwards are there. Kind of the the opposite of modelling style amp sounds that are engineered to sound good at low volume in the store and flatter your playing.

[@johncartelli]

@@bryanclarke1927 lol I'll take anything that will make me sound better than i am

[@ALAN67107]

Hi folks !!!got an origin 50 c and hitherto am not satisfied with my settings for a blues rock sound (clean tone with pedals)!!!could you please give us examples of your settings ( tilt, presence, bass, trebble , mid ,gain and volume )to help me improving my tone?alain

[@napalmhardcore]

Just the man I wanted to see get his hands on one of these. Looking forward to the full review :)

[@axemanand]

I own this and it’s a great amp, especially with a les Paul. I’ve owned a jtm45, vintage modern, jcm 800 and a dsl but this is my favourite. You have to set it up right though. It only sounds good in full power mode. It’s not a bedroom amp, it needs to be played loud to get the best sound. I find the best setting is running everything at 12 o’clock but the bass on 3. I run the gain at max and control the distortion from the guitar volume. I wire my les Pauls with 50s wiring and rarely run the guitar volume over 8. Maxing our a les Paul volume makes it fuzzy and less clear in a band mix. It’s an awesome vintage Marshall sound but you need to know what that is as it’s unlike the tight bottom end of Morden high gain amps.

[@sideparting6845]

Is it possible to run it in lower wattage modes at home and it still sound good? I only ask because my wife can only take so much guitar playing

[@joeygarcia6647]

@@sideparting6845 find a new wife problem solved

[@sideparting6845]

@@joeygarcia6647 I think the problem is my appalling guitar playing, not my wife haha 👍🏻

[@joeygarcia6647]

@@sideparting6845 for better or worse man thats all I have to say 😂

[@sideparting6845]

@@joeygarcia6647 I think she's hoping I get better Can't get any worse!

[@trushack]

I'm starting a band called "Clean Business."

[@samapple490]

So how’d it go😂

[@spencer_seaton]

That ‘54 Goldtop tho....

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

right,, that was the highlight of this vid,, the star of the show :)

[@marknorris3769]

you kinda get the feeling marshall wants to sell some amps

[@modestoney1577]

great sounding amp. my guess is that all the guys that don´t like it just don´t like the tone of vintage Marshall amps, and i don´t mean vintage like in 1980s. plus, with this style of amp you really need to look for the sweet spot for your guitar and playing - something that wasn´t really done in this quick review (which is great anyway). you will not find a more authentic vintage Marshall sounding amp with master volume option, especially for the money. this amp shines at lower/mid gain settings - the possibility of pushing the gain even more on this amp may distract from it´s true strength.

[@reaperxi-0382]

Would you still recommend using a pedal just for a little push for solos? 2 years later how do you find it? Im looking for an amp to capture Clapton's Cream era, Page's punchyness and Kossoff style tones too. Would you still recommend this for that? cheers

[@modestoney1577]

@@reaperxi-0382 Well, i would definitely recommend to try one out yourself. It was designed with those tones in mind. Does it sound exactly like a vintage Marshall? Probably not. Is it the ultimate amp to get those tones with? Probably not, there are many different (boutique) amps anbd Marshall reissues out there that may do a better job. But, that said, i know of no other amp at this price range - and price has dropped since, at least in Europe - that would do a better job in getting those kind of tones. And money aside - it does sound good once you dialed it in right. Just be sure to leave the Master Volume wide open, basically treating it as if it was a non MV amp. It does not like the MV turned down. And play around with the EQ. Then a pedal to boost should not be a problem. But try for yourself and let me know what you think. Cheers!

[@reaperxi-0382]

@@modestoney1577 thanks for the advice mate. Only thing is with covid restrictions my local guitar shops are either closed or not letting people in, quite rightly so. Mostly been looking online. I was thinking of swapping the speaker for a proper Celestion Greenback. You think that's a good shout? Seeing as clapton had those in his Bluesbreaker.

[@modestoney1577]

@@reaperxi-0382 I see. The good thing with buying online is that you can try it at home and still send it back if you don´t like it. Concerning the speakers i have no experience. I guess a Greenback would sound just fine, depending on what you are going for. Have you considered buying the head? You could then use it with different cabs and speakers.

[@reaperxi-0382]

@@modestoney1577 If I was gonna get a head and cab combo I would actually opt for the Studio Vintage (more up my street, vintage marshall and no master volume). But 1. I don't own a car, so would be hectic trying to transport a head and cab and 2. I'm a student so don't really have the funds for a head and cab as much as it's my dream!

[@jeremydunn7444]

they nailed their sound! fuk boogie and evh, that is the overdrive that i love. sounds great and the distortion souds pre compressed, i want this and thanx was waiting to hear how it sounded with a variety of pup configurations

[@Danguardace17]

How is he able to max out the master with it being crazy loud?

[@BradWarrenMusic]

Love the videos from the other side of town, John! #southnastyrules

[@rowdyjohnson6026]

ahhh so the 50 watt combo DOES have the power switch and a gain knob, same as the head. was told otherwise. good to know

[@marcellee4212]

Strats look always richer with a Marshall amp. Even with some wear on it's finish overtime. Awesome review mate!

[@NolalanD]

John, love your little blues diddies! Man, the P-90 Paul sounds wonderful through it.

[@johnsmith-sm6mh]

Mate great playing great reviews love your relaxed vids 🇬🇧 British amp from a Great British company i take mine to their factory for a service and they give fantastic service all round i love Marshall

[@muzjikstb]

when its in the low wattage mode, the low end is not going to stay together as well. on the max headroom setting, it is much tighter (at least in my exp)

[@saulvelasco8269]

Is it good with distortion pedals? I want it for heavy Metal, do you think it’s a good idea? Got the Friedman BE-OD Deluxe

[@lowqualityguitarvideos]

yeah that would work. I just ordered a friedman dirty shirley overdrive to run in front of my origin 50 for fun. The amp is an outstanding pedal platform. Just be careful with that tilt control or it will rip your head off.

[@saulvelasco8269]

S Rawdon thank you! Can’t wait for this amp! Sure will rip my head off haha

[@TybudX]

This is kind of misleading considering he has a Saucy Box HC in his signal chain. How much of the sound he gets is from the pedal, and how much is from the amp?

[@matthewf1979]

Find me a schematic and I'll tell you exactly what that "Tilt" control does. It appears to be a blend pot with a bright cap on one side, considering the cascading gain ala JMP/JCM. The first 12AX7 isn't parallel like a JTM/Bassman jumper'd with a patch cable.. I'm happy Marshall made an affordable amp based on the classics. The Origin lineup should be pretty popular, barring any reliability issues that plague PCB tube amps. Great cosmetics too!

[@46dc9er]

This is tangential to the point of the video but seeing him play Gibson really got it right with the 1954 Les Paul

[@seancronin4010]

Good review. Impressive price-value for this amp.

[@dannytran173]

Would you recommend the Origin or the Blues Junior? I know Marshall and Fender have such different sounds and I prefer the Fender tone a lot more than Marshall but something about this amp specifically draws me towards it. Also with clean tone setting of the Origin and a reverb pedal I think it can rival the clean of Fender. What are your thoughts on both against each other and which would you recommend.

[@t.cole_2]

How loud is the 1 watt setting?

[@Mr.Steve-O]

Perfect for a small room or apartment

[@marshallbrooksmusic]

Lovin that Sister Rosetta Tharpe poster. She's great

[@hughsnyder891]

Anybody know what the last Tele style guitar manufacturer is ?

[@Legionosh]

Kiesel

[@pickledblues]

All these people complaining about the plexi sound not realizing that’s the sound of a plexi. Those “amp in a box” companies saw you guys coming.

[@gamesandguitars3901]

Exactly, this amp is an affordable plexi-ish amp. You really need a mid boost to get the plexi sound nearly perfectly but with that its insane

[@supermel9]

The speakers are not great, I replaced mine with a greenback, sounds so much better.

[@matardahan7696]

I’m new to Amps and I’ve got an Incredibly loud buzz on mine... anyone know what might be the cause?

[@moudir8610]

It's normal, every single amp has a buzz, a compressor or noise gate might lessen it :)

[@stan2211stan]

Will a Vintage 30 fit without a hassle? Nice rug too. Building 19?

[@lonesomeguitarplayer]

Sister Rosetta Tharpe on the wall 🙂Like your musical taste!

[@oldguysguitarvlog183]

Lovely sounding amp, but I'm not sure if it's the crappy speakers on my laptop or what, but there is a boomy kind of reverby thing happening in the vid. Maybe it's the room you're recording in. Not sure, but even when you speak, the sound seems to reverberate. Weird.

[@marvinstorm9153]

Nice demo. Like other Asian made amps like Vox CC I just change the valves out, huge diff. Maybe speaker but it does the job.

[@ryanlittleton5615]

Question: Can this amp do really big, loud, clean tones? Sorta like an SRV type tone?

[@gamesandguitars3901]

Yes absolutely! If you have it on 50 and roll the volume back a little and boost the gain it does it

[@presentelaw]

Hi John, I really like your demos. I'm considering this between this and the silver jubilee 2525c. You've demo'd both so well. Which would you prefer? I'm curious to know which one sounds better in low power settings because they use different technologies. Thanks.

[@oskarterlecki5649]

I only got one today,love it so much,it's a bit weird at first but it sounds really good

[@larrytaylor3684]

Is that your 54 goldtop??

[@deanmacka4975]

I love marshall amps

[@frozencons]

Is it just me or does it completely fall apart in the low end when it's distorted? Great playing as usual. JB is the man. Cheers.

[@robertsmiczsmiczamplificat593]

frozencons . Yes muddy bottom end. Very fuzzy. Not my cup of tea.

[@guillll]

That's the classic Marshall sound! I personaly love it.

[@Echo-m1p]

On point.

[@26ruben1]

yeah ... I don't love it ...

[@Quetzalcoatl999]

Looks like they might not be using a mic but opped for the direct out?

[@nino2585]

what effects pedals are you using? What is he using? o.O

[@baconshreds1772]

A bit of a gear noob, do these work with extended range?

[@kenster865]

While you can get some awesome sounds out of the 50W combo, I think either the Origin 20w or 50w head into a cab of choice is a better option. Another thought: run a Barber "Direct Drive" pedal into a Fender Super Reverb. Trust me, it's a religious experience. 😉

[@LesPaulisMore009]

Dude!!! P90 all the way, great tone, nice job!!

[@Bieber2011Fever]

sick playing style

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

you had a good combination with the p-90's , i still think i would look for a jcm 900, unless i played this amp ad a rehearsal and it really did it.

[@MrPinkStrat]

Are we hearing Marshall or Pedals & Marshall

[@davidledford6482]

all 3 guitars sounded killer, he has hands an knows how to not bore you, or play like a friggin metal shred head............EVERYONE GO LISTEN TO,....MADE IN JAPAN, DEEP PURPLE,AN HEAR ALSO THE BEST TONE ON EARTH.....

[@pashaliss3edessa]

Can i play metal music with this amp?

[@Adrianbjerre]

Would probably sound good if you pair it with a distortion pedal with a thicker distortion

[@vintagebluesmann]

Nice Vid!

[@TempoDrift1480]

Has Rebecca ever sat on that couch and where? Asking for a friend.

[@thezosokid]

*Satchel*

[@johnnygonzales3211]

I got me the dsl40cr it’s awesome also😜

[@jarrydee2799]

How is the low end in that? My old fender red knob just took a shit on me, I LOIVED the low end that thing had, would shake the room.

[@vmat1000]

Nice amp!!

[@eareffect]

It's not 0.5 watt on low. I'ts actually 5, 10 and 50 watts.

[@paulsimmons5726]

This amp certainly looks like something from the 60's, wishing it had reverb though.

[@AuntAlnico4]

Paul Simmons No reverb !? They could have put digital reverb in it for penny or two more, literally.

[@kwik2hear915]

Agree, the digital reverb sounds good and for pennys this could have been a great buy.

[@TheTrollMastah]

That’s what the FX loop is for. I’m gonna get a Dano spring reverb pedal (that has real springs!) and put it through there. I’ve never had an amp that has an FX loop until I got this.

[@pauljude]

Great playing brother! Amp has some cool features but the digital reverb makes it a no sell. It would be more desirable if they just made it without it if they're just going to throw in some shitty digital verb.

[@nigelpickett2471]

There is no reverb in this amp.

[@mvnjuan]

There is no reverb 😂 read before u complain

[@Ron4roc]

All knobs right and at 11!!

[@EMWoodworking]

Is there any other way?

[@davidledford6482]

best origin review on youtube pretty much, lose that friggin reverb though.........

[@ej3651]

love to see that John is using a guitar strap in a sensible way! I've never understood why almost everyone tries to play guitar down on their thighs...

[@TheMrFlitz]

Because it looks cool

[@PaulMcCaffreyfmac]

You're watching the wrong people

[@AuntAlnico4]

Jimmy page ?

[@ERIC-65]

But it's upside down! 😭

[@Iheartdgd]

Eh... to each his own..It’s definitely much more comfortable at the hips for me and many others, and it’s never been comfortable playing at chest height. Comfort is sensible.

[@mdsveda]

Nice Kiesel!

[@tommy2z2z]

Let that Goldtop rip!!

[@joshuasurridge8018]

Sounds unreal

[@Jawnietheboy]

Has anybody giged with this amp?

[@Cam-yp7cn]

This review is kinda late isn't it?

[@AuntAlnico4]

Cameron Fisher * yeah ! First look ! For John maybe.

[@markleyva3108]

I have a couple of extra guitar stands if you can't find any in your town. 🤣

[@muneavieja]

Eso suena Deluxe bro!!

[@nycLPplayer]

Will wait for mods to fix the sound

[@Spreaders88]

You have to watch it on full power, it'll blow your strap right off! 🤣

[@davidledford6482]

this guy knows how to make a guitar bite an attack,instead of metal,an shred shit..like blackmore a little..........

[@Terryomalleyonline]

I want to love it.........but I think I wanna see other amps. 😆

[@Biffinnbridge]

Love your work Johnboy but that sounds like pish flaps pushed through a cheese grater!

[@Wooburnmusic]

lol ! 🤣 🙂👍🇬🇧

[@evankeal]

Could be the camera compression/limiting, there is a TON of compression/limiting in the camera, listen to the ambience come roaring in when he shuts the volume off. I think that is what makes many say this Marshall doesn't sound like a Marshall. I like the sound, the high gain sounds ok, like a compressed Marshall , the clean is unknown to me because of the camera leveling everything out so much, it sounded solid state clean. Seems like it is stuggling for headroom but again, without being there and the whole camera thing theres no way to gauge it very well.

[@premierguitar]

Royer R 121 > XLR > Canon XA20 input/preamp > FCPX > Universe

[@evankeal]

@@premierguitar Auto volume or manual volume on XA20? Manual would be ideal, but you would of had to change it very often during this which is highly impractical. It would remove any auto leveling though.

[@premierguitar]

Always manual on channel 2 with Royrer R121 input. We do several "max volume" tests to make sure whatever tweaking and pedals engaged don't burn the signal. Once that's established, we don't really touch anything. Channel 1 is on auto (that captures John's audio), and yes, we eliminate all channel 1 audio while he's playing so what you're hearing is straight from the Royer. Thanks for tuning in, Evan.

[@evankeal]

I think it sounds great in my ears. Thanks.

[@davidledford6482]

am so sick of gibsons same old sound,but this les paul reminded me of barry baileys marshall tone from atlanta rythm section,...the perfect band........