FIRST LOOK: New Renault 4 - Retro Done Right?

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@TopGear
@TopGear 3 ай бұрын
So, Renault 4: oui, ou non?
@bernardlloyd2000
@bernardlloyd2000 3 ай бұрын
Definite yes for me, having driven both the Renault 5 and 4 it's definitely more comfortable than the 5 and much more usable for rear passengers ! (It's obviously less fun to drive as the 5 though) Not sure how the front fascia will age and cope with all the dead insects on the wide plastic lit up "grille"
@tom_gg2069
@tom_gg2069 3 ай бұрын
Non car il tue l'industrie automobile.
@punkbubu
@punkbubu 3 ай бұрын
Oui! ❤
@tom_gg2069
@tom_gg2069 3 ай бұрын
@@punkbubu t'es un ouf, arrête d'imaginer, d'abord achète la voiture puis là tu donnes ton avis
@robertjohnmarcella263
@robertjohnmarcella263 3 ай бұрын
yes is this available in the Philippines?
@KrzysztofBob
@KrzysztofBob 3 ай бұрын
What a minute! So it is actually possible to build a modern car that has a single button that turns off ALL of the annoying assist features? CAR OF THE YEAR!
@fluxcapacitor
@fluxcapacitor 3 ай бұрын
Renault and Dacia do this on all their newest vehicles :)
@MrGanda1f
@MrGanda1f 3 ай бұрын
MAZDA CX-80 has it as well
@Parakeet-pk6dl
@Parakeet-pk6dl 2 ай бұрын
This car is so un-modern-BMW in so many aspects... I love it!
@svenzerx8490
@svenzerx8490 3 ай бұрын
Actually a pretty good balance visually between the old and new
@stevenmacdonald9619
@stevenmacdonald9619 3 ай бұрын
What? Do you have vision issues?
@stijnd5268
@stijnd5268 3 ай бұрын
like, its not an ugly car imo, but it does not even resemble the old one in the slightest. Thats what I hate about car "remakes", they just give it the same same and barely, if anything, translates into the design.
@johnflavin1602
@johnflavin1602 3 ай бұрын
@@stijnd5268Agreed, it we weren’t told, we’d never even know it was supposed to be an R4.
@MTODbasics
@MTODbasics 3 ай бұрын
All other EV makers: "Make it shapeless and have the dash be a TV". Renault:" Ye-naw." This actually looks interesting.
@justaguy6216
@justaguy6216 3 ай бұрын
Hyundai is also doing the same and I love it. Cant wait for these to be in the 2nd hand market in like 5 or so years.
@asjeot
@asjeot 3 ай бұрын
Looks inefficient
@spaz8461
@spaz8461 3 ай бұрын
@@asjeot YOU look inefficient
@Narinjas
@Narinjas 3 ай бұрын
It would be Criminal not to have a Renault 4X4 (Off Road version)
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 3 ай бұрын
Looks crap and nothing like the old one
@petkokrushev3840
@petkokrushev3840 3 ай бұрын
Renault is killing the retro design game
@MLB9000
@MLB9000 3 ай бұрын
No they’re not. They’re actually reviving it.
@petkokrushev3840
@petkokrushev3840 3 ай бұрын
@@MLB9000 I think you didn't understood what I meant
@darracqboy
@darracqboy 2 ай бұрын
@@MLB9000he meant they’re really good at it
@josearaujo8616
@josearaujo8616 2 ай бұрын
It looks nothing like the R4
@enigma01011
@enigma01011 8 күн бұрын
killing?? leading perhaps? I love my 500 EV cabrio too by the way
@bernardlloyd2000
@bernardlloyd2000 3 ай бұрын
Thank god Renault is here to prove EVs can be small light and fun (and look brilliant too) instead of just making bland 2ton+ SUVs
@Petroelhead
@Petroelhead 3 ай бұрын
looks like an SUV tho. With that black trim and rugged wheel arches and ride hight.
@bernardlloyd2000
@bernardlloyd2000 3 ай бұрын
​@@Petroelheadyeah I'm not a great fan of this endless trend of slapping plastic arches on every single car I wish it could be kept for a "rugged" version or something It would probably look a bit outdated without them though seeing as all competitors have them
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic 3 ай бұрын
Renault and fun is usually an oxymoron.
@bernardlloyd2000
@bernardlloyd2000 3 ай бұрын
@@BojanBojovic true, but if you get a chance to drive the new Renault 5 I challenge you not to smile, the driving experience is really fun
@misjakoning
@misjakoning 2 ай бұрын
​@BojanBojovic noooo I grew up in the Renault 4 as a little girl. Best times with my dad behind the wheel driving on mud roads in the forest. Loads of fun! (Been driving a 2012 Twingo for the past 12 years, awesome little 4 cylinder car too!)
@mgm9641
@mgm9641 3 ай бұрын
Renault is killing it Love it's new cars
@lloyd.8272
@lloyd.8272 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately plagued with issues. Our last two family run around were new Renaults. Never owing one again!
@markgt894
@markgt894 3 ай бұрын
😂do you work for Renault
@lightningleaf23
@lightningleaf23 3 ай бұрын
@@lloyd.8272had loads never had an issues
@rccc5806
@rccc5806 3 ай бұрын
@@lloyd.8272 My second old and cheap Renault, not many luxury aspirations but comfortable and cheap to run and it does a lot of work for me.
@Bebou.1
@Bebou.1 3 ай бұрын
@@markgt894why lol
@bernardmiller7247
@bernardmiller7247 3 ай бұрын
As a wheelchair user, I spent several hours today measuring the boot sill heights of EVs of all sizes. All of them would have been impossible for me to lift a wheelchair into. This might be a possibility. And I have fond memories of having a Renault 4 in the 1960s. I look forward to trying one when they swim across the Channel.
@alainprostbis
@alainprostbis 5 күн бұрын
hope you ll find a solution. cheers.
@tancreddehauteville764
@tancreddehauteville764 3 күн бұрын
You shouldn't be driving, old codger!
@1bbnnkk
@1bbnnkk 3 ай бұрын
Renault is on fire recently. Look EV manufacturers, that’s an actual EV that might sell
@jimpackard8059
@jimpackard8059 3 ай бұрын
Lots of EVs are on fire.
@mackadresse6095
@mackadresse6095 3 ай бұрын
They are fighting for survival bit they are losing the game because the Germans made the rules and did not thing of the war in Ukraine war and cutting of their own gas supply off, with a little bit of help from the US - but nobody wants to know...
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 14 күн бұрын
@@jimpackard8059 Yep many are awesome now. Now getting the catch fire, that's extremely difficult.
@somebloke2238
@somebloke2238 3 ай бұрын
Starting to think some people will just hate any new car
@alancobbin
@alancobbin 3 ай бұрын
I’m guessing they never got the heads up from their elders if you can’t say nothing nice say nothing 👍
@farishanafiah8461
@farishanafiah8461 3 ай бұрын
Because it's electric, simple as that. Styling and design is subjective, so I won't comment much on it.
@niewiadomoco2236
@niewiadomoco2236 3 ай бұрын
the problem is that it is not a new design, imo it is a concept of an old renault inserted into a volkswagen layout from a few years ago - a complete mistake
@commietearsdrinker
@commietearsdrinker 3 ай бұрын
If someone left a bag of doodoo on your porch every morning, would you grow to like it with time?
@xelaander8429
@xelaander8429 3 ай бұрын
Maybe because it's range is going to be shyt and also can't fast chatge up to 350V
@diogopsilva
@diogopsilva 3 ай бұрын
Gilles Vidal is the kind of designer that changes a brand for better, he did it with Peugeot and now is doing the same with Renault. Great job!
@murdoch9106
@murdoch9106 3 ай бұрын
Shut up and take my money... some day when I'm able, I love these, Renault are killing it! 😍
@tom_gg2069
@tom_gg2069 3 ай бұрын
If you live in us/ca or other countries in America, it will not be sellable and otherwise, the price will be hell' expensive so try to buy a hybrid car or fuel car cause if you want to fix the car, then you're in the trap. The engine will be unfixable and the worst part is the engine (ev) will be replaced (price ¾ of the car)
@kennycheung1743
@kennycheung1743 3 ай бұрын
​@@tom_gg2069The only possibility is for Mitsubishi or Nissan to introduce their own versions of R4 & R5 which will be quite a long shot 😢
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 3 ай бұрын
Tesla and China is killing it
@tom_gg2069
@tom_gg2069 3 ай бұрын
@@leehenry5764 not the tesla cuz always some npcs comes to our garage bc they have problems with the bodywork, engine, battery and electronics and they ask us to repair the car. Always the same problem some ppl talked to me and they said the same sentence "I'll quit the tesla"
@tom_gg2069
@tom_gg2069 3 ай бұрын
@@leehenry5764 but the china, uk (lotus), lucid and rimac. I have no word, they do make some good vehicles and I love it, Germans or I should say EU sht, I know a lot of europeans EVs they lose their profits (msrp↓↓↓)
@AndrewLumsden
@AndrewLumsden 3 ай бұрын
At 6:14 My Dad bought a Renault 16 in 1972 as seen in the background here. - The most practical car we have ever owned. I wish Renault would bring that back to life.
@fuzzi1002
@fuzzi1002 3 ай бұрын
I drove a R4 GTL in the early 80's. It had 1100cc 34 HP and LOW weight. It was fun to drive😊 For me the new design is a good translation to modern times
@hunchanchoc8418
@hunchanchoc8418 3 ай бұрын
I'm hoping to get one (of the old ones). It's the perfect car for today.
@levestane6383
@levestane6383 12 күн бұрын
My first car was a '71 R4 van (845 cc, first year with 12 V electrics); so much fun!
@andrewthompson5745
@andrewthompson5745 27 күн бұрын
I had a Renault 4 when at university in the late '70s. I could get 7 student mates in to go and find a pub open in Llanfairfechan on a Sunday (Bangor being dry on Sundays back then). Somehow, the suspension coped. Eventually, the engine literally blew up so I bought a scrapped R4 van and swapped the engine over in a shed on the farm I lived at. The optimism and naivety of youth and the simplicity of 60s engineering combining successfully although my friend forgot to wire up the universal joints on the fwd - it took a day or so to re-assemble and fill both UJs with transmission fluid. Happy days.
@andysouthall
@andysouthall 3 ай бұрын
Like it - some proper thought gone into it, rather than forcing useless tech on public
@N1ckZ
@N1ckZ 3 ай бұрын
Useless only to those who don't know how to use it.
@andrewdavid6054
@andrewdavid6054 3 ай бұрын
Especially the customisation of the Driver Assistance toggle. Hopefully that includes disabling the new speed warnings that never know what the correct speed is, or lane keep assist that every now and then miss-reads the situation and requires urgent intervention, regardless of the vehicle’s manufacturer. If you can’t read a speed sign or keep a car in a lane, you shouldn’t be driving!
@AvAfanfromfrance
@AvAfanfromfrance 3 ай бұрын
Looking at all the unofficial concepts renders that have been circulating the internet for years, it's actually impressive that they pulled it off. It's really the best looking it could be as a new car. The designers really know what they're doing
@Solapunk
@Solapunk 3 ай бұрын
I wish Citroen could find their 1980's designers again. French EV's would rock. Citroen AX vs Renault Twingo would be a dream. The 2CV vs Renault 5... ah the smell of wine on the seats, cheese in the boot.
@thorstenguenther
@thorstenguenther 3 ай бұрын
Bring back the DS and XM as EVs now!
@ab-ym3bf
@ab-ym3bf 3 ай бұрын
@@thorstenguenther oohh yes, the DS!
@-POISON-
@-POISON- 3 ай бұрын
I'm starting to like what Renault are doing. The R17 concept would be amazing, but we know that won't happen. R4 and R5 both look nice. I would expect an R8 at some point. But if they bring back the R12, I will jump on it in a heartbeat, especially if they make a Dacia 1300 version.
@fetred
@fetred 3 ай бұрын
These new EV R4 and R5 are very sleek and retro modern stylish cars. Very good job Renault. Although, I wish they could be cheaper, like 20.000 euro for R5 and 25000 euro for R4 for the top range models.
@merlin2627
@merlin2627 3 ай бұрын
Was kind of expecting the R4 to come in cheaper than the R5 (because history) but I was dead wrong, maybe bc the barebones EV is already being made at Dacia. Also Renault seem to be aiming at the Mini crowd with these latest models.
@David_Polak
@David_Polak 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, we're living in the past with those numbers. A base model VW Polo starts at 27 thousand euros. Crazy but it's true.
@botbotconnection
@botbotconnection 3 ай бұрын
Man they are more expensive, but depends on the version you choose, the lowest version with as few options as possible of the R5 [starting price in Five finish and without bonus should be 25,000 € depending on the brand] then the full option version [Iconic Cinq] costs 35,490k €. Even Dacia has difficulty going below 20k € [entry price without options: 22k € (and what's more, not even electric)]. That’s so much so, it’s very complicated to still hope to have car models under 20k €
@hcw199
@hcw199 3 ай бұрын
Don't worry.... They will depreciate faster than they charge!
@fetred
@fetred 3 ай бұрын
@@merlin2627 Dacia Logan with petrol/gas starts at 15,5k euro, I can’t believe that Polo starts with 27k and that R4 is gonna follow that. Outrageous is this inflation that global corporations and countries are artificially doing for that last couple of years. They fear you with war and pandemic and in the background they raise prices and cost of living. Remember that salaries are higher 10-20% but the cost of living from 50% and higher. Just have a look at real estate prices which are uncontrollably rising up.
@Ultratoast01
@Ultratoast01 3 ай бұрын
I always favoured the old 5 over the 4 until I travelled around South America and saw the amazing custom culture around the 4. This looks like that culture could continue
@k.squared
@k.squared 3 ай бұрын
I am particularly impressed by the fact that "the seating position is nice and upright, and directly facing the wheel". So tired of sitting sideways. Seriously though, great car. It's interesting to watch some major brands use EV transition to completely change their designs. VW, Kia, Hyundai are the most prominent examples, but now, clearly, more companies are joining the trend. This and the 5 look very different from everything Renault put out recently, which is a good thing.
@kyronrc
@kyronrc 3 ай бұрын
Renault on fire lately! Looking forward to the Twingo too. Hope these new models bring them sales and progress.
@viktorianas
@viktorianas 3 ай бұрын
Please don't use word FIRE 🔥 for EVs, does not sound good...
@mackadresse6095
@mackadresse6095 3 ай бұрын
lYou must be joking they are making EV like all the other manufacturers, nobody wants to buy or can afford. When they work....No resell possible either... Nobody buys obsolete outdated technology 6 month old, try to sell a ZOE or an ID3?
@ericeinar
@ericeinar 3 ай бұрын
@@viktorianasvery funny! Ice vehicles actually have way more 🔥
@viktorianas
@viktorianas 3 ай бұрын
@@ericeinar good job smart human on the internet, EVs actually roughly 4-5 less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. But when they burn... it's a different story.
@nickmarr1
@nickmarr1 3 ай бұрын
Looks a bit like a MINI Countryman and a Honda E had a baby car together. A Suzuki Ignis was the postman who nobody talks about.
@fabianstanislaus5925
@fabianstanislaus5925 3 ай бұрын
If the Twingo looks anything like that when it's released i'll consider it. Never wanted an ev but this one might win me over! hope they do a good job with the interior. Love the Renault 4 seats and other interior details but I think the screens are way too big in most cars today. Id love to have a screen twice my phones size and everything essential as buttons, switches and dials. best in my opinion would be a good display where the instruments are in my car and no other screens.
@khasmir666
@khasmir666 3 ай бұрын
I once drove a old R4 through a field when I was 14 years old, good memories 😁
@corolla2rollerfk681
@corolla2rollerfk681 3 ай бұрын
Renault doing well with its electric car design
@kfh123
@kfh123 3 ай бұрын
Great design. They use their history and brand value for future models. VW did the opposite and failed. Design very well executed. Thanks for pointing out the switch to turn the peeping sound off. Very useful detail.
@leangrypoulet7523
@leangrypoulet7523 3 ай бұрын
Well, bit difficult for VW to use their history, given where some of that history comes from. 🤔
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 3 ай бұрын
Where did VW fail again?
@Stevieboy130664
@Stevieboy130664 3 ай бұрын
Colombia is still full of the original 4. I believe it was built there under license. Brilliant design and hopefully the new one will have the same reach. Low priced, practical and charming - we need more electric cars like this.
@StephaneCalabrese
@StephaneCalabrese 3 ай бұрын
Sofasa, the local company assembling Renault cars, was founded in 1969. Renault is the most local car brand in Colombia. Especially now that GM/Colmotores has stopped assembling cars in Colombia.
@JimHawd
@JimHawd 3 ай бұрын
4:05 is definitely the best shot a youtuber has ever gifted us with.
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 3 ай бұрын
Needs 65kwh battery asap to massively expand appeal. This would be good enough as a small family / general purpose car so needs to go well beyond city llimits
@samjanko8946
@samjanko8946 3 ай бұрын
75kw👌
@carlomorischi3435
@carlomorischi3435 3 ай бұрын
Yes, 60kWh should be enough if they manage to increase efficiency (which is key)! Hope that in 2 years they can release a new version with slightly bigger battery, higher efficiency and faster charging (10-80% in less than 20min)
@steamdrivenandy6880
@steamdrivenandy6880 16 күн бұрын
I ran a Renault 6 Yellow Peril in about 1980, the 6 being the 4's big brother with the same dashboard gear lever. Looking at the 4e it actually seems to be more 6 size than 4. Then again we ran a turquoise Renault 5 in around 1985, so we're drawn to both EV versions.
@horza01
@horza01 3 ай бұрын
Renault are just killing it!! 👍🏼
@ObiePaddles
@ObiePaddles 3 ай бұрын
Great to have you back Tom. Very knowledgeable and making the links to the past. Dad jokes…not so much!
@frenchLeon
@frenchLeon 3 ай бұрын
More of that 4:07 please 😂
@malthuswasright
@malthuswasright 2 ай бұрын
Looks good - shame they didn't put the grab handles by the front bumper like on some of the old ones. Two people could lift the front end and wheel the 4 around like a barrow!
@zelcpavle5494
@zelcpavle5494 3 ай бұрын
Where is the umbrella gear shift ?!?!?!??? 😡
@siviter
@siviter 3 ай бұрын
It would need gear first. Probably a safety issue in a crash too.
@PitWChannel
@PitWChannel 3 ай бұрын
Renault has just seen that a commenter used "?!?!?!???", so they legally have to bring umbrella gear shift now.
@tylercollins9323
@tylercollins9323 3 ай бұрын
Electric cars are automatic only... for now
@Stefan-hg4uq
@Stefan-hg4uq 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@GrahamShirra
@GrahamShirra 2 ай бұрын
Back in the 1970s I had a Renault 6 - essentially a posher version of the 4 - and it was an excellent little car. This new 4 is the first electric car that actually makes me say "I want one": sensible size and practical. I don't need something that does 0-60 in something ridiculous like 3 seconds.
@tolkien777
@tolkien777 3 ай бұрын
I'm definitely for it, Renault has been making great retrofuturistic cars of late. I hope this becomes a global export, aswell as the Twingo
@jeffcohen1934
@jeffcohen1934 14 күн бұрын
Oui! A shame about that rear side window not being a window. Visibility is a key part of safety. Interior and exterior are nice. I had a 5 and loved it. The 4 wasn’t available. Form has followed function almost as well as the old 4.
@jkbrbc
@jkbrbc 3 ай бұрын
So you can leverage new gen traction control because of electric motor, new weight distribution and extremely easy doable 4wd/rwd car and provide better turning radius, feedback from front wheels and improve drivers experience... and you still make decision to do it fwd. The hell
@niichuuko1095
@niichuuko1095 3 ай бұрын
FWDs are just easy to package and very very safe to handle.
@florianwagner7279
@florianwagner7279 3 ай бұрын
Love it R4 - Hopefully they will do the „fourgonette“ R4 van as well👍 Thanks for the interview with the designer, this guy needs to get an award, for showing how great EV‘s can look like.
@carlomorischi3435
@carlomorischi3435 3 ай бұрын
Amazing car!! But please Renault make it with 500+km of range and faster charging (
@enigma01011
@enigma01011 8 күн бұрын
why do people that commute samll distances for 99% always moan about diesel specs beats me. My ev has a 260 km range never need more then 100 km
@JamesField
@JamesField 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree there should be a 4x4 version. Remember when the Megane came out and then they "Golf Plus'd" it with the Scenic? And then they made that into a crossover and called it the RX4? It's the right segment and right name - R4 + 4WD = RX4.
@carlomorischi3435
@carlomorischi3435 3 ай бұрын
Feature request for 2026 refresh: - Higher range (500+km WLTP) (better efficiency & bigger battery) - Faster charging (10-80% in less than 20 min) - Front trunk for cables OR (better) a retractable integrated AC cable like Fiat Panda - LFP batteries for better fire safety and longer lifespan - Cost less than 33k - Charge port on front right side like Megane for V3 Supercharger cable placement & roadside charging
@Space-O-2001
@Space-O-2001 3 ай бұрын
Wow there's a Iron Triangle list of requests lol
@toyco_ch
@toyco_ch 3 ай бұрын
It only needs the lower price tag. I'd be interested in something small to commute with. If it gets about 100km of range, I'm already happy, my commute is 4km. Anything else is a waste of money, I'll take any of my dino-juice cars for long distances. Nobody makes anything small, cheap and not absolutely miserable with short range and a pricetag that's acceptable. The Ami/Rocks thing is a fun idea but quite miserable as a car. Microlino and stuff costs a kidney. The only option is 10+ year old BMW i3.
@JayDee-b5u
@JayDee-b5u 3 ай бұрын
Just put a gas engine in it and you've got it all.
@carlomorischi3435
@carlomorischi3435 2 ай бұрын
@ focussing on efficiency (aero, weight reduction, frictions, power conversion) you solve almost all of these points
@jonathancollard3710
@jonathancollard3710 3 ай бұрын
Twingo for me… perfect aesthetic with nostalgia and modernity wrapped into one package…
@alancobbin
@alancobbin 3 ай бұрын
Renault is on fire at the moment 👍
@ab-ym3bf
@ab-ym3bf 3 ай бұрын
I´d love to see a remake R18. My father had one, blue with a big black spoiler, I think gtx or gts version or so. 2 litre engine, And I just received my drivers license... Sentimental dreams
@philoconnell3700
@philoconnell3700 3 ай бұрын
Such a shame that the 4 & 5 are not available as a hybrid 😞
@davidpvt6817
@davidpvt6817 3 ай бұрын
I owned a Renault 4 when a young man living in Zimbabwe. I kept it for about 5 years and not once did it let me down. Tougher than they look. Great little car. I would happily have a closer look at the new EV model.
@jakwadd
@jakwadd 3 ай бұрын
As someone who generally hates electric cars, this the little Honda and the Dacia actually make sense to me (and a good amount of the population) Very cool looking little thing!
@themittonmethod1243
@themittonmethod1243 3 ай бұрын
TG needs to do an updated test in the spirit of the "one gallon" race... how does a 5kWh race sound? Cheers!
@andrewstevenson6540
@andrewstevenson6540 3 ай бұрын
This looks excellent with the fabric sunroof. Put a 1400cc petrol turbo in it and I'll buy one.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 3 ай бұрын
Wow that is sad, sub 1.5L is what people are desperate enough to settle for now. Nah I rather stick with powerful tough BEV.
@andrewstevenson6540
@andrewstevenson6540 3 ай бұрын
@@Neojhun See how sad you are when the batteries die.
@mcsike7264
@mcsike7264 3 ай бұрын
​@@andrewstevenson6540 lmao batterys dont die m8 they degrade which is a long process you have 10 year old teslas with same battery
@jonmarc876
@jonmarc876 3 ай бұрын
Why did he open the boot like that? 😂😂😂 4:10
@Whatshisname346
@Whatshisname346 3 ай бұрын
I don’t mind the design too much; just regular small SUV stuff I guess. I was hoping for it to be a lot more utilitarian and simple. The interior is way too plush for a Renault 4. They should’ve priced this similar to the 5 but stripped out the interior, given it a phone holder and removable seats. Also the range in the 5 has been so so; how bad will it be in a larger heavier version of this platform? As it is, it’s just another electric SUV. I get this is a market segment that Renault needs and the Twingo will probably fit into the small and simple gap in the market …. I guess. Let’s hope Dacia can get their hands on this platform and make the Renault 4 we’ve been waiting for.
@merlin2627
@merlin2627 3 ай бұрын
Yeah was expecting the same but no. Maybe they leave that to Dacia and aim for a wealthier clientele. It’s nice though, especially in burgundy and black paint.
@bernardlloyd2000
@bernardlloyd2000 3 ай бұрын
Since when are SUVs 1.5 tons and smaller than shoulder height? Sure the ride height is increased compared to the Renault 5 but it just makes this more comfortable and practical
@Whatshisname346
@Whatshisname346 3 ай бұрын
@@merlin2627 Yeah that colour scheme looks pretty cool.
@Whatshisname346
@Whatshisname346 3 ай бұрын
@@bernardlloyd2000 Small SUVs/crossovers are all about the same height as this. My issue is more with the lack of simplicity in the design. I have memories of the original car and while this is nice it misses the point. I was expecting a stripped out utilitarian car, this is certainly not that. The original had decent ride height too so that's not really an issue in my book.
@markmitchell590
@markmitchell590 3 ай бұрын
​@@Whatshisname346 Europe is to car availability what the US is to prescription drugs. We pay for the rest of the world (excl. US) to get cheap generics.
@philipwright7186
@philipwright7186 3 ай бұрын
Having seen it on video rather than stills I like it a lot. I'm sure for a designer it's a nightmare taking account of the platform / heritage / regs and I don't think it shouts '4' that hard, but I like it for what it is anyway. I'd buy one over a Chinese import, simply because I embrace its European heritage.
@pavanacharya4875
@pavanacharya4875 3 ай бұрын
Please make sure you show the car more than zooming on the host!
@siviter
@siviter 3 ай бұрын
I hope they do a 4x4 version and take a few more elements ober from the 4ever concept.
@nolimit-moc
@nolimit-moc 3 ай бұрын
not horrible, but not really a modernized of the old ones, just a new retro future design like Honda E or somesort
@Peer_Teer
@Peer_Teer 3 ай бұрын
Another Crossover-SUV. The Honda is smaller and lower.
@gymusen
@gymusen 3 ай бұрын
And sadly gone, loved the little E ​@@Peer_Teer
@bernardlloyd2000
@bernardlloyd2000 3 ай бұрын
​@@Peer_Teer it's really not though, 1.5 tons and not even shoulder height We all hate this SUV trend but we have to stop saying all new cars are SUVs when they just aren't
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 3 ай бұрын
​@@bernardlloyd2000It looks like one and weights nearly as one
@bernardlloyd2000
@bernardlloyd2000 3 ай бұрын
@@leehenry5764 I suppose the trend of massive wheels and increased ride height does make most modern cars have SUV-like proportions and this car is similar in size to a 500x or mini countryman I'm just slightly confused by how vague the term SUV has become I guess haha
@ytwos1
@ytwos1 3 ай бұрын
120 hp, let alone 150, with high torgue, is totally fine. I never understood why these electric cars had insane power numbers to begin with.
@Leo-tr7sc
@Leo-tr7sc 3 ай бұрын
Best part about this: no one will buy it. Renault will capitulate and make a hybrid version which is what they should have started with. At 45K+ Euros, with a limited range (no surfers will buy it), expensive maintenance, not made for the real world of potholes and bad parking (imagine the cost of that LED bar), it will be another cool-looking prototype we rarely saw on the streets for a couple of years.
@alainprostbis
@alainprostbis 5 күн бұрын
so far the R5 is selling like hot cakes. although id much prefer have a rechargeable hybrid....
@PeterBull1951
@PeterBull1951 3 ай бұрын
Biggest difference from the R5 is it's bigger, so why not show us what the rear seat legroom is like? That was the main reason I swapped our Zoe for a BYD Dolphin rather than wait for the 5.
@gritnltw
@gritnltw 3 ай бұрын
Original 4L, 5 and all other 70s. 80s classics, where HONEST, PRACTICAL, AFFORDABLE vehicles. Now, desperate OEMs jump on the retro-nostalgic design to hide their anxiety over to what is coming. They present expensive, complicated, non-sense-branding-driven designs to "excite" people. Instead of re-inventing the essence of these cars, they create soulless vehicles dressed like something from the never-coming-back past. Yeah, good luck and enjoy the ride. By the way, I watched the live unveiling and the brand manager was talking about the "iconic trapezoid rear side window"...
@ne0ne0
@ne0ne0 3 ай бұрын
Good observations.
@Farney-gy1qo
@Farney-gy1qo 3 ай бұрын
The Original was for the Working Class, Unlike this! And The Original Wasn't a Joke @2:20, unlike you!
@ImadHadjersi
@ImadHadjersi 3 ай бұрын
I just wish the new R4 and R5 offered ICE versions too.. And Tom, it's Estafette not Estafayette 😂
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 3 ай бұрын
Ewww just no, these designs would be ruined by a modern compact engine.
@IvanTurkovic
@IvanTurkovic 3 ай бұрын
@@Neojhun they are already ruined, they are not going to be on the roads in 10 years anymore less in few decades with this iphone business model replacing old one for new one all the time
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 3 ай бұрын
​@@NeojhunIt's ruined anyway, looks like SUV like many electric today
@Dakkyun
@Dakkyun 3 ай бұрын
​@@Neojhun and the fact that even the modern ice are being made to fail right after warranty fails... Powertrain don't really matter anymore when you have the wrong people at the top.
@ThePedroDB
@ThePedroDB 3 ай бұрын
Non to the R4. Oui to the R5. Certainement to Twingo2 😍
@HighFell
@HighFell 3 ай бұрын
What would have been a genuine brilliant move would have been a true modern R4, basic, robust, ICE, that would last 20-30 odd years like the originals. Most of the BEVs will be in landfill before they reach 10. This and 5 look pretty but way too much tech and pointless gadgets that will never get used.
@bbl5499
@bbl5499 3 ай бұрын
Looks like all automakers don't want to do basic cars anymore. Even Dacia is leaving that market. Is it what consumers want or just about profits making?
@IvanTurkovic
@IvanTurkovic 3 ай бұрын
Smartphone business model applied to something that could be used for decades
@bernardlloyd2000
@bernardlloyd2000 3 ай бұрын
Gsr2 regulations dictate a whole lot of these "gadgets" so all constructors have to comply now and offer a minimum package of driving assists
@HighFell
@HighFell 3 ай бұрын
@@bernardlloyd2000 GSR2 does add complexity and cost but hopefully for a tangible benefit. What is certain is these systems will develop faults and will lead to early termination of vehicle use. The number of Mercedes A Class (gen1) that were scrapped with ABS faults was staggering and there are plenty more similar examples.
@arturasp9738
@arturasp9738 3 ай бұрын
please tell me where that landfill is, as I only find 10 year old electric cars still cost around 8k euro or more. Please, I need to know the location.
@hasssna
@hasssna 3 ай бұрын
You know if you are an old school you should've known that the R4 back in the days has that special gear stick that supposed to make it special they've really could 've done something about it in this next relooking kinda an easter egg like they did with the window i don't know maybe have a phone handler in there or something !!
@ShiftyStomp
@ShiftyStomp 3 ай бұрын
At least they didn’t make it into an suv like the capri
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 3 ай бұрын
It’s an SUV lol
@GhostFuture2000
@GhostFuture2000 3 ай бұрын
I can't see why putting the steering wheel on the correct side for a UK Twingo would be too much of an issue for them.
@hyweljones9250
@hyweljones9250 3 ай бұрын
This is much better looking than the old 4.
@Lena-md4bh
@Lena-md4bh 3 ай бұрын
Blasphemy! Probably true, but blasphemy, I tell you!
@pablochacon40
@pablochacon40 3 ай бұрын
My mom had a white Renault 4 back in my country and it was a great car to bad we can’t get them in the USA.
@burntcrumpets5616
@burntcrumpets5616 3 ай бұрын
JESUS, MARY & JOSEPH........not another one!!!
@angelheart859
@angelheart859 3 ай бұрын
gorgeous, practical, what is needed in a car and gosh, loved my first 'quatro' owned as a student ... a Renault 4 and yes, with 34 HP and yet zippy and fun!!!!!
@marcgras9064
@marcgras9064 3 ай бұрын
Still too expensive to really make a difference. The design is good but it doesn't get you instanly like the 5 did for a guy from the 70's like me.
@djallalhouri3869
@djallalhouri3869 3 ай бұрын
First car i owned in 2008 Renault 4gtl 1982❤
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 3 ай бұрын
It's great that you can turn off all the chimes and bells and driver assisted crap. Will the car spy on you and report you to your insurance company?
@Extramile5777
@Extramile5777 3 ай бұрын
I don't think they are built by ford
@amaljoe367
@amaljoe367 3 ай бұрын
From the thumbnail i thought they made a car to sit below the Renault 5. 🙁 5 is still my favourite of the two
@existentialselkath1264
@existentialselkath1264 3 ай бұрын
Is the nissan leaf still the only normal design for a small EV with a decent range? Not everyone wants to be so shouty about owning an EV
@MrXontrosPanikos
@MrXontrosPanikos 2 ай бұрын
Lovely design that looks good in your photos, anemic performance, rubbish range, cheap and multi-use parts. Amazing car built exactly for it's market: Companies renting cars to tourists
@devlin2427
@devlin2427 3 ай бұрын
TBH this is DOA if they price it above 30k.
@ISuperTed
@ISuperTed 3 ай бұрын
Agree, but all new cars now way overpriced. A base Golf is £27k.
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 3 ай бұрын
How does Mini do it then? It's a premium car.
@devlin2427
@devlin2427 3 ай бұрын
@@ISuperTed that doesn't mean electric cars should be more expensive especially the one in the segment bellow.
@albinklein7680
@albinklein7680 3 ай бұрын
​@@ISuperTeda base Golf is a fully usable car. Those toy cars from Renault are just a fashion accessory.
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 3 ай бұрын
​@@etbadaboumpremium😂
@chasf3433
@chasf3433 3 ай бұрын
Superbly crafted review thanks Tom. This is a far more practical car than the 5 or even the Megan, both of which have high boot loading lips for some reason,with superb but subtle styling that won't wear thin. It has retro hints from the 4 which make it interesting but the overall design is really modern and distinctive. Top models really need a bit more range perhaps to justify the price. Kia and Renault seem to be following very similar driver interface approaches with lots of non touch screen controls.
@goodfodder
@goodfodder 3 ай бұрын
So many trolls, one would think they are sponsored by the oil industry?
@user-ug8wx5er1w
@user-ug8wx5er1w 3 ай бұрын
As opposed to coal to get electricity??
@goodfodder
@goodfodder 3 ай бұрын
@@user-ug8wx5er1w Lol, no coal power in the UK, France indeed in most of Europe, only backwards countries use coal because it’s cheap
@4literv6
@4literv6 3 ай бұрын
@@user-ug8wx5er1w coal? Quick genius tell us globally what percentage of electricity comes from coal here in 2024! 😀
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 3 ай бұрын
I bet you support the green party😂
@dillerdaller
@dillerdaller 3 ай бұрын
Not compared to what the new Twingo concept shows that can do, if they want to.
@tomokokishi3066
@tomokokishi3066 3 ай бұрын
Another day, another electric. Sorry, no.
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 3 ай бұрын
Talking about proportions being better with an EV, not when you are sticking with these flat skateboard platforms, as they jack up the height of the vehicle and make the seats uncomfortably high. To actually get these benefits you need to be more creative with the battery pack shape in order to keep the car lower, seeker, more aero, and better seating position (especially for tall people). Sports cars with 2 or 4 seats should by default use an I bar shape with a tall thick transmission tunnel style battery going through the middle (which also makes the cockpit nicer), with larger battery lumps at the back and front. Less sporty cars that need a flatter floor/ a middle seat in that back should use big cuboid batterys a similar volume to an engine under the bonnet/hood, maybe with a central tail between the front 2 seats. Both of these would increase the centre of mass but the tradeoff for better experience, style, aero, and space is absolutely worthwhile. At this point it feels like the companies have realised customers are cool with these clunky messes with their half-arsed battery design so they don't have to bother with more advanced engineering. What's the point if people buy it anyway? The skateboard chassis is much cheaper to prodice so obviously they'd rather do that AND charge more money becuase it's a big SUV
@AlanBlueOne
@AlanBlueOne 3 ай бұрын
EV's market gonna die in few years upfront.
@ISuperTed
@ISuperTed 3 ай бұрын
Sad trolls out again.
@AlanBlueOne
@AlanBlueOne 3 ай бұрын
@@ISuperTed I'm not a troll, look at the sales and longevity of theese things.
@ROMZYDLX
@ROMZYDLX 3 ай бұрын
I do a fair bit of equity analysis for shares, and can definitely say this is how many investment funds see the EV market going, they're too expensive the break the market and not in enough numbers to justify R&D that's why we have already seen a number of manufacturers and governments do U-turns on EV only by 2030
@framlucasse
@framlucasse 3 ай бұрын
Petrol engines will die in 2035, so... think a bit.
@4literv6
@4literv6 3 ай бұрын
@@ROMZYDLX boy oh boy I pity your clientele. 🤣 from 1% of the market in 2017 for nevs which is ev&phevs to over 18% in 2023, heading towards 22%+to end 2024. And simpletons like you claim they are going away? It's the largest ever market share increase for such a short time in a complex to manufacture expensive product in world history! By 2028 or even sooner ice will no longer be able to make a profit outside of the small scale exotic only oems. 👍🏻 Even America by 2028 has enough capacity coming online to make 8,000,000-10,000,000 locally sourced nevs.
@Kranberry777
@Kranberry777 2 ай бұрын
It's cool to see brands I never cared about turning things around and teaching the giants a lesson in actually giving the customer what they want. Kia, Hyundai, Renault for example
@Checkmate025
@Checkmate025 3 ай бұрын
36k for that? You lost your mind..
@botbotconnection
@botbotconnection 3 ай бұрын
36k for R5 and it's the full option version (without option and Five finition, it's 25k € of entry price)
@johnyramos8527
@johnyramos8527 3 ай бұрын
This was the 1st time I ever seen a Production car better looking than the concept its based on ❤
@tom_gg2069
@tom_gg2069 3 ай бұрын
My friend who worked at Renault during the 80s-90s, answered me.. "Renault does not respect anything at all"
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 3 ай бұрын
Salty sucker
@chrisspain
@chrisspain 3 ай бұрын
Nice but nearly 40000 for the big version has nothing to do with the original. The Renault 5 already is over 33000 and those are not prices that are ok for that. A Model 3 Tesla can be had for that.
@Polemarchos
@Polemarchos 3 ай бұрын
Looks too much like a Dacia Duster. If they had lost the black plastic in the front and the back and around the wheel arches it might have looked better. And lowered the ride height. Theres in not much linking this car to the old R4 except the name.
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan 3 ай бұрын
Tom another great first look, you are so awesome at presenting us with great cars like this new Renault 4. Love the looks of it, and really hope that they actually put the motor in the back and make it a small EV 4x4 ;) And Renault 4 is just legendary here in Slovenia it has actually been nicknamed KATRCA :)
@CT37BN
@CT37BN 3 ай бұрын
All these retro Renault EVs'.. 4, 5, Twingo all are done blatantly SUV style. Kind of pathetic really.
@alancobbin
@alancobbin 3 ай бұрын
Accept for the millions of people that buy them,these 3 new EV’s from Renault will be a massive hit,i didn’t have to be rocket scientist to work that out.
@garrycroft4215
@garrycroft4215 3 ай бұрын
Because it’s exactly what the people are buying. Large SUV’s are a blight in towns and cities, However small SUV/crossover stile or jacked up hatchbacks are perfect. The driver position gives excellent views meaning much more safety for occupants and pedestrians.
@oliverstemp9132
@oliverstemp9132 3 ай бұрын
None of those are SUV
@Peer_Teer
@Peer_Teer 3 ай бұрын
Innovation: None! I don't like everyone of these Crossover-Suv!
@Peer_Teer
@Peer_Teer 3 ай бұрын
@@oliverstemp9132 They are Crossover -SUV (mixture between SUV small car) and most of the do this nowadays.
@GudieveNing
@GudieveNing 3 ай бұрын
Silly question, is this above or below the 5? I'm not familiar with Renault's numbering.
@gwanor
@gwanor 3 ай бұрын
shame they won't make petrol version...
@johnjuiceshipper4963
@johnjuiceshipper4963 3 ай бұрын
NPC comment
@BlueMica63
@BlueMica63 3 ай бұрын
@@johnjuiceshipper4963 tech nerd comment
@philipmccarthy6175
@philipmccarthy6175 3 ай бұрын
Had a very memorable holiday travelling up the West coast of Ireland in 1990 in my friends Renault 4. Great little car.
@JC-he7yk
@JC-he7yk 3 ай бұрын
Remove Renault badge , and you will have no idea if Dacia. FIAT, Kia or anything else
@bernardlloyd2000
@bernardlloyd2000 3 ай бұрын
There are plenty of obvious nods to the original Renault 4 which make it easily recognisable with or without the badge (although I do agree the rear lights are very similar to fiat 500x)
@WorivpuqloDMogh
@WorivpuqloDMogh 3 ай бұрын
I like that they bring these back. They look good, better than other brands, but their range is a little limited for me to buy one.
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