FIRST Offroad Ride: CSC Wolf 125cc | Motorcycle FUN You Can Afford!

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The Great Out There

The Great Out There

Ай бұрын

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FINALLY - 60 years after the introduction of the Honda CT90 - CSC Motorcycles has partnered with Zonsen Motorcycles to bring the new Wolf 125 to North America.
Zonsen has produced a 125cc motorcycle that matches the venerable Honda CT in both appearance and performance - but at a price that is THOUSANDS less!
This is the FIRST offroad test of the new Wolf 125. I was riding in the mountains of the Prescott National Forest, between Prescott and Crown King, AZ.
Does the new 125cc CSC Wolf deliver on the promise? Is the CSC Wolf a legitimate option for anyone longing for a fun and economical 125cc motorcycle for town and trail? Can you buy a capable trail bike at HALF the price of the popular CT125?
Check out the Ride Report and Review series at GreatOutThere.online.
I learned a few things on this first ride:
1. How to shift the automatic clutch. You need to rev up and hold the shift momentarily when downshifting on the hills.
2. The front fork bottomed out on sharp ruts and steep descents. CSC has since added spacers over the fork springs for riding offroad.
3. The stock tires need to be upgraded to the 17x3.0 Shinko knobbies for offroad riding.
4. For offroad riding, I would also lower the gear ratio: smaller front sprocket and/or larger rear sprocket.
5. At the end of the ride, I discovered that the center bolt holding the rear rack was LOOSE. Tightening this bolt eliminated most of the rattles that you heard in this video!
Most importantly, I learned that a 125cc trail bike is an absolute BLAST on forest roads. This is not a hard-core motocross bike. But if you like to cruise the trails at 20 to 30 mph, 125cc's are entirely adequate!
In addition, EVERYONE that saw the Wolf 125 was very impressed and gushed, "That bike is WAY cool!"
Check out the Ride Report and Review series at GreatOutThere.online. Next stop: the high desert around Jerome, AZ!
CSC Motorcycles has completed the DOT and EPA regulatory processes and is bringing the Wolf 125 trail motorcycle to North America for 2025. The MSRP price will be ONLY $1,995.00 (plus fees and shipping direct to your address.)
Zonsen has been manufacturing HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of 125cc motorcycle engines for decades. Economical, dependable, and low maintenance 125cc motorcycles are the standard in most of the world. In addition, CSC is offering a HUGE range of accessories and modifications for the new Wolf 125. CSC will install your accessories for FREE when you order your 2025 Wolf!

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@libraeotequever3pointoh95
@libraeotequever3pointoh95 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your real-world experience with this CSC Wolf trail motorcycle. I think it makes an excellent competitor to the Honda Trail.
@irishadventurer9759
@irishadventurer9759 27 күн бұрын
I own a Honda Trail 125 and love it. This CSC Wolf is a nice looking bike, and the low price and plethora of options a make this bike VERY intriguing. Good options are hard to come by for the Honda. The frame reminds me more of a Honda Cross Cub 110, especially where the front handlebars connect to the frame. I'm gonna wait for some real-world reviews when the bike ships in the fall. Chinese manufacturing is slowly gaining ground, and someday soon it will catch up with Japan, or at least Taiwan. Reliability is important, as I'm on the East Coast, and will be left to my own devices for general maintenance. Parts cost and availability is also an issue.
@jonneet2126
@jonneet2126 12 күн бұрын
On the big island of Hawaii, where we live. the dealer is about 85 miles away. Actually seeing and buying a new Honda trail 125 is a about like winning the lottery. I bet I would actually be able to order a CSC when they become available. My first MC was a used Honda Trail 90. I was ten. Mine had the dual range trans, which was genjus. The older ones had a kind of quick change sprocket setup. The trail sprocket fit over the street sprocket and bolted in place. The bike came with a short piece if drive chain, for use when the trail sprocket was in use. Even that was a well thought out arrangement.
@anthonynicholich9654
@anthonynicholich9654 5 күн бұрын
Nothing and noone will ever catch up with a skilled labor of made in Japan. If you do think that besides being stupid you're ignorant and arrogant about the nation of Japan and if you learn about Japan you will realize how wrong you are
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 5 күн бұрын
Where all the remakes of the venerable Honda Trail 90 get wrong is there's no secondary trail reduction gear, a 4x4 you can change at the trailhead to allows it to crawl up really steep and difficult trails with the engine in the thick of it's torque/rpm curve. I owned a 1971 CT-90 that the PO had converted to a Powroll 125 cc stroker/bore and big valves, and hotter street cam, which almost made the trail gearing superfluous. Still, it wasn't punchy enough to not occasionally need the lowest gears. what I see with these latest Honda Trail clones and Honda's newest Trail bikes is that their engines are detuned Pitbike engines that aren't making much more than the original 90 cc engines 7 h.p. Is CST's latest bike a long stroke engine, because that's where you need to start?
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 4 күн бұрын
You're RIGHT. But the reality is that less than 5% of buyers ever take their "trail" bikes offroad - so the dual range transmission is cut to keep the cost down. (The minority that want more trail performance have to change the gearing.)
@dirtcopdualsport
@dirtcopdualsport 11 күн бұрын
That thing is incredible! I hope to see a long term review in the future!
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 10 күн бұрын
Here is the second article in the CSC WOlf 125 series: www.greatoutthere.online/post/first-ride-report-2025-csc-motorcycles-wolf-125-part-two
@dirtcopdualsport
@dirtcopdualsport 10 күн бұрын
@@thegreatoutthere Thank you!
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere Ай бұрын
What are the TWO accessories that you consider INDISPENSIBLE for the type of riding that you do? The CSC Wolf 125 has MANY available accessories that can be installed during the pre-delivery process at CSC. For offroad riding, I NEED the wider and more aggressive Shinko knobby tires. Second, I would choose the accessory engine guard and skid plate. What about you?
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 5 күн бұрын
Someday these manufacturers will get it right. Undersquare, really wide jumps between the gears with 1st being close to a granny/creeper, and 4th (or 5th..) being an overdrive. These gear-sets already exist, the sellers need to have their subcontractors/suppliers do the work.
@jonneet2126
@jonneet2126 Ай бұрын
I have read the price should be about $1995 plus fees. It does not have the dual range transmission , like my first motorcycle did.
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 14 күн бұрын
No dual range. Honda hasn't offered this for over 20 years because 99% of riders never go off road.
@jasonlassen7599
@jasonlassen7599 12 күн бұрын
If they offered the dual range transmission they would eat Honda's lunch. It's a trail bike, that old hi/low trans made a ton of difference when on the trails. If it were a two stroke it wouldn't be needed. I think Honda and now CSC have made a mistake.
@peterclaydon9782
@peterclaydon9782 13 күн бұрын
Yamaha have a version of the trail cub that is only in Asia at the moment.... Yamaha PG1 , price of 60,000 bahts in Thailand
@c.demircan8078
@c.demircan8078 21 күн бұрын
i like the color and look....This bike looks better than Honda....i like miilitary colors in that kind of bikes....not only camouflage but also millitary single color options must be available like FDE, and OD Green....i like the accecoaries too...
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 21 күн бұрын
YES - OD green and/or khaki would be cool!
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 15 сағат бұрын
The motorcycle wasn't visible in the entire video, presumably it had been camouflaged! Perhaps use a non-camouflaged bike next time so that it will actually be visible in the video...
@louisdriscoll2580
@louisdriscoll2580 6 күн бұрын
I have one for my girlfriend and it could use a upgraded shocks front and rear. She only weighs 120 and remember it’s only 9 HP
@sailortoni
@sailortoni Ай бұрын
Podria comprar dos unidades en florida?
@heritagehillsecurity8778
@heritagehillsecurity8778 Ай бұрын
What was that flapping sound while trail riding? Wolf looks great. Thank you.
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 14 күн бұрын
Could have been the rear rack - it was loose on the first day until I found the bolt hidden under the rear top box.
@heritagehillsecurity8778
@heritagehillsecurity8778 14 күн бұрын
@@thegreatoutthere Thank you.
@DueyMiller-rk9dr
@DueyMiller-rk9dr 13 күн бұрын
I love how everyone says that the bike has no clutch. Push the shift lever all the way down and you will engaged the clutch. The shift lever and clutch are combined.
@bruceclark5627
@bruceclark5627 13 күн бұрын
The clutch is centrifugal. It has nothing to do with the foot shift lever position. What I'm really saying is,I love how people ho have zero idea what they're talking about seem to always be the resident "subject expert"😅
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 12 күн бұрын
Correct! It is a "semi-automatic" transmission. The gears do not engage until you release the lever. Likewise, you can "feather" the clutch by holding the lever half-way down, that is, before it clicks into the next gear.
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 12 күн бұрын
@@bruceclark5627 Incorrect. There is nothing "centrifigal" about the semi-automatic clutch. These motorcycles have distinct gears, and the rider must shift between gears. The only difference is that you control the shift 100% with the foot lever, and without the need for a hand clutch lever. On the other hand, scooters have centrifigal "clutches" - which is really no clutch at all.
@bruceclark5627
@bruceclark5627 12 күн бұрын
@thegreatoutthere scooters use a cvt transmission. The cub motor and its clones use a centrifugal clutch that is engaged at a specific rpm point. The transmission has individual gears. 32 years of experience here. Go back to your GY6 videos.
@DueyMiller-rk9dr
@DueyMiller-rk9dr 12 күн бұрын
@@bruceclark5627 Have you ever rode a ct90? I as a kid I used to push the shifter down to Coast. Has nothing to do with the RPM of the motor. I got my ct90 54 years ago. I was 10. Before that I had a Honda mini trail when I was about 6. They also had the clutch can the shifter combined. You can do power wheelies with the mini trail by just holding down the shifter and in revving the engine up. Then shift completely. It was like dumping the clutch on a regular motorcycle.
@DaveZee01
@DaveZee01 19 күн бұрын
Looks like a great li'll bike! I wonder whether a fully enclosed (minimal maintenance for sprockets & chain) chain-guard will be available for this bike?
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 19 күн бұрын
Maybe. But all chains require maintenance and the enclosed chain is a pain to adjust and lube.
@DaveZee01
@DaveZee01 19 күн бұрын
@@thegreatoutthere I bought a very knackered 2012 Yamaha AG200 (farm bike) this past weekend but one of it's best qualities is how silent it sounds when wheeling it around, which I reckon is due to its fully enclosed chain-guard. It has a removable plastic grommet for checking the chain tension and perhaps allowing for the application of aerosol chain lube? These Yamahas have simple cam-type adjusters on either side of the rear wheel which really simplifies adjusting its chain tension.
@joshuathomas8529
@joshuathomas8529 Ай бұрын
Does this bike have the high and low features of the old Honda 90? How heavy is it? I saw your ACU sleeve are you a vet?
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 14 күн бұрын
No dual range - sorry.
@juancarlospaco
@juancarlospaco 14 күн бұрын
Looks like a Lyfan ADV125 but camo, I prefer my RV125 2024 tho.
@donaldgrant9067
@donaldgrant9067 9 күн бұрын
Oh no the TC 90?
@gregthues
@gregthues Ай бұрын
so will it be more available than the new Honda ct125 and what is the projected pricing?
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 14 күн бұрын
Prices start at only $1,995.00 Go to cscmotorcycles.com/wolf-125/
@anthonynecaise4490
@anthonynecaise4490 28 күн бұрын
How were you able to get one ?
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 14 күн бұрын
This was the model used of r EPA testing. Approved models will be available late Fall 2024 as 2025 models.
@leepeffer1304
@leepeffer1304 3 күн бұрын
Where in AZ are you?
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 3 күн бұрын
Check out the two review articles from Prescott and Jerome! GreatOutThere.online
@randy-mw5dq
@randy-mw5dq 27 күн бұрын
Where is the air intake
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 27 күн бұрын
Up under the rear rack - high and dry!
@crippleguy415
@crippleguy415 14 күн бұрын
What's the weight limit ?
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 11 күн бұрын
Like the CT125, the weight limit isn't defined by the manufacturer. There are simply too many variables - road/trail condition, elevation, etc. Like the CT125 (and C125 Super Cub, Grom, and Monkey). Per Honda: "Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you ride, how you maintain your vehicle, weather, road conditions, tire pressure, installation of accessories, cargo, rider and passenger weight, and other factors."
@Pococnosurvival
@Pococnosurvival 11 күн бұрын
so you mention nothing about top speed, shock travel, instrument panel, prices...like what did I just look at?
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 11 күн бұрын
This was only the initial ride. Skip ahead to the more complete Ride Report at www.greatoutthere.online/post/offroad-ride-report-csc-wolf-125. (More mielage wil be added soon!) Then see the full specs at cscmotorcycles.com/wolf-125/
@SmilingDeer-cv9jh
@SmilingDeer-cv9jh 2 күн бұрын
I doubt that thing have 1/4 lifespan compare to the japanese. 1/4 the price is justified. Not to mention parts availability.
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 2 күн бұрын
Unlike your local Honda dealer, CSC actually stocks 100% of the parts! PS. The Honda CT125 isn't "Japanese" but from Thailand/China/Phillipines/etc.
@maakatipa4613
@maakatipa4613 2 күн бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, if the bike was built in 2024, ..then no matter anyone says,...it's a 2024 !! It's like being born in the year 2000 but pretending you weren't born until 2001. I've lived all over the world and America is the only place I've ever seen do this.
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 2 күн бұрын
Well, it's reality. NEW 2025 Toyotas, Fords, etc. have been shipping since June!
@masonryjoe
@masonryjoe 8 күн бұрын
Hate to break it to ya but thats a scooter LOL ! Looks ok , Time will tell if its reliable .
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 8 күн бұрын
No, scooters have direct CVT drive without a gearbox. The Wolf 125 will require a motorcycle license.
@masonryjoe
@masonryjoe 8 күн бұрын
@@thegreatoutthere No, the Honda click 110 cc has the same transmission, very common in Asiaon many of the scooters.
@droptuned83
@droptuned83 20 күн бұрын
Chinese, so thats a hard pass.
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 19 күн бұрын
As opposed to the made in China and Taiwan Honda/Yamaha/KTM/BMW/Harley motors, microchips, wiring harnesses, etc? Without your Chinese computer and phone you would be forced to submt your uninformed comment via US Mail!
@MediaBrainwashDOTcom
@MediaBrainwashDOTcom 17 күн бұрын
I remember saying that about Japanese goods not so long ago. Chinese copy bikes are great.. just replace the parts you break with genuine honda parts. Also, tighten up all the bolts the children laborers missed.
@geraldburmeister9637
@geraldburmeister9637 15 күн бұрын
@@thegreatoutthere Hell why don't we just send all our money to the ccp because we already buy so much crap from them. Heck why don't we just raise the white flag right now. And your calling somebody uninformed smh. We're selling ourselves down the river and you sound all for it.
@Madmamba458
@Madmamba458 Ай бұрын
Rember fellas it’s not a Honda it’s from china big difference u get out deep in the woods and bike breaks ur screwed
@freeman48083
@freeman48083 21 күн бұрын
Any bike that breaks deep in the woods and you're screwed 😂 Granted, the Honda may be less likely to break because they're built like an appliance.
@thegreatoutthere
@thegreatoutthere 14 күн бұрын
Zonsen builds many times more of these small motors than Honda! Most are sold into 3rd world countries where they are expected to run with little or no maintenance. As opposed to "toys" in the U.S., these small motorcycles and scooters are often the ONLY form of transportation for the family or business!
@LazyLarryinFlorida
@LazyLarryinFlorida 7 күн бұрын
@@freeman48083 what did you do when your washing machine broke down? Appliance?
@freeman48083
@freeman48083 Күн бұрын
@@LazyLarryinFlorida I repaired it. I'll put it another way: I'd prefer a fun Italian roadster over a Japanese minivan. They both have their place, but if it's discretionary spending, I want fun.
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