First Oration against Cataline by Cicero

[@cringlator]

Cicero walking in to the senate meeting: “I’m about to ruin this man’s career”

[@user-ge4uk9ui8y]

that's a half an hour roast

[@sergeyprokofiev7186]

No Blackmail, a brilliant Orator.

[@aristophanesghost3839]

I'd bet the farm that Cicero didn't deliver that speech as it is written now.

[@MC-gj8fg]

I can say with confidence that historians could find no connection whatsoever between the origin of the word "brevity" and Cicero.

[@enricosantana9062]

Wimble Don you are a fantastic narrator!

[@Wimbledonchannel]

Thanks Enrico!

[@katerider8217]

Boom. Roasted.

[@Wimbledonchannel]

Slow roasted

[@neomalebana1420]

The Ancient Greeks were cold, man

[@piratemccall]

Greeks?? Cicero is Roman, homie.

[@annawang6967]

@@neomalebana1420 it literally says “Roman” on the screen 🤦‍♀️

[@neomalebana1420]

@@annawang6967 My bad😁

[@SevenFootPelican]

Second, third, and fourth in English? Why is it so impossible to find?!

[@Wimbledonchannel]

He speaks for such a long time! haha, I'll get on to the later ones and have them for you in a bit, I've got 4 kids, so free time is at a premium!

[@ToastyChud]

@@Wimbledonchannel sir, you have a respublic to save!

[@realkingofantarctica]

Hold up!! His writing is this fire???

[@Wimbledonchannel]

Haha yep the man wouldn’t be held down!

[@laisphinto6372]

Cicero was literally killed because He roasted Mark Anthony too much , Cicero wasnt a Warrior or General but i Bet He didnt have any regret Trashtalking Mark Anthony.

[@levinanji9649]

Honestly, the oration usually sounds better, authentic and moving when done in classical latin, Cicero's language.

[@Wimbledonchannel]

Thanks Levinanji9649, but I don’t speak Latin…

[@james_baker]

@@Wimbledonchannel Latin sounds like Greek to me

[@bill9989]

​@@WimbledonchannelHe doesn't either.

[@Wimbledonchannel]

@@bill9989 😂 would put money on that yep

[@radin2538]

14:00

[@Theboneroomreal]

If only we had a politician this brave and well spoken in our senate after January 6th. We would have solved a lot of problems.

[@mat7342]

a modern day cicero would've elegantly argued that januaray 6th was good lol. cataline wanted to redistribute the immense wealth that the patricians had and cicero wanted to keep his money so he proved the wrong things right

[@roman343]

​​@@mat7342 Your point of view of Cicero is a bit ahistorical that doesn't really speak to the nuances of the politics at the time. Cicero was first and foremost about protecting the Republic by all means necessary. Cicero would have been arguing treason for the Jan 6ers

[@vulpes7079]

Your Catiline is about to be arrested. I salute the Senate and People of North America

[@MaxBecker-rv1ix]

@@mat7342 no, Cataline wanted to overturn the government because he lost the consul election, he didn’t care bout money

[@dwl3006]

@@roman343 Cato would have had them all executed.

[@wue5930]

17:37

[@krednevalga1686]

ancient Kendrick Lamar 🔥

[@Wimbledonchannel]

😆👍👍

[@marishamcdowell552]

I need help. Someone in these comments please help I have a discussion post due tonight and I am so damn lost. What is Aper’s argument, who is Aper? Who has the winning argument between Aper and Maternus? My book is on back order so I downloaded a digital version and I am so lost please help

[@darwinrucker8488]

Did you fail?

[@YadiraEscobar]

@@darwinrucker8488 we might never know

[@ToastyChud]

Does anyone feel bad for Catiline?

[@gracchi132]

And after more recent studies have found that there was no such conspiracy and it was likely fabricated by cicero and Cato

[@paulkellerman2603]

No.

[@Creedonator]

Cataline did have it coming, but at the same time Cicero openly boasts about the overturning of the Roman constitution in the case of the deaths of the Gracchi, Saturninus, etc, to justify executing Cataline too. No heroes here.

[@ToastyChud]

@@Creedonator didn’t cicero try to save/salvage the republic later on?

[@Creedonator]

@@ToastyChud He did, I certainly don't mean to say he was all bad. But he was, in my view, absolutely wrong on this issue, namely the execution of Roman citizens without appeal to the people. This was one of the key rights established by the settlement of the struggle of the orders centuries earlier, that no citizen could be executed without the opportunity to appeal to the plebeian assembly. The first time it was violated was when a group of senators gathered a mob and murdered Tiberius Gracchus and his supporters in the streets. A decade later the same thing happened to his brother Gaius and Gaius' colleague Fulvius, only this time the senate voted that it was okay first - the first "senatus consultum ultimum", the senate unilaterally deciding that it had the authority to suspend the constitution and kill whoever it wanted without trial. In this speech Cicero argues that the fact that these crimes went unpunished established a precedent that he could commit the same crimes against Cataline and his supporters. Cataline probably had it coming, but if Cicero was so confident that he was clearly guilty then he shouldn't have had a problem with letting him and his supporters make their appeal. Clodius was a shitbag too but he was constitutionally completely in the right to get Cicero exiled for how he handled the Cataline affair.

[@MrDzver]

I believe his name was Lucius Sergius Catilina, the anglicized name being 'Catiline', not Cataline..

[@HelenBrown-s1j]

Davis Mark Jackson Robert Thomas Helen

[@luismiguelcasal9162]

Lets give a lecture on Cicero and Catiline, and lets call the guy Cataline, it's KZbin so it is a must to be ridiculous.

[@ahman4675]

This is naice

[@lowersaxon]

Wimbledon will never be an orator.

[@Wimbledonchannel]

Hmmmm, yes thank you for your opinion on this topic, oh complete stranger from the internet.

[@enricosantana9062]

Today that would be Cicero throwing the democrats out of America! GOD BLESS OUR REPUBLIC AND GOD BLESS AMERICA

[@marcusappelberg369]

Don't be so sure. The republicans are villains and idiots as well. Sure like your culture, but your politics is a joke. Cicero would laugh at both sides if he were alive today.

[@stevengibson4773]

A shame to taint such a speech with petty partisan politics

[@eliegbert8121]

cringe

[@blackopsguy1023]

“God Bless America” while mocking a heathen and pagan

[@simonwilliams8525]

This comment is particularly hilarious In the wake of a "Republican" president attempting to overturn the result of a democratic election and then incite a mob to storm Congress, murdering a police officer in the process. By your logic the senate should have voted for the immediate execution of such an enemy of the Republic.....

[@NonServiam1312]

Comparing this oration to the way modern day US politicians talk, what an embarrassment.