First problem on the 2024 KTM 500 EXC-F. 2,600 Miles 80Hours

[@corybass4713]

Yeah. Great vid thanks. I have been trying to solve my problem with my 350 xcf with clutch drag and haven’t been able to solve it.

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@corybass4713 Thanks! Have you checked the indexing on the spring retainer?

[@Coaltrain87.]

Mine just started doing this im.glad I found this video thank you

[@advsquared]

I have a 350 excf with 550 hours on it and have go through several sets of these, they are definitely a wear item. The Recluse ones last a lot longer than the KTM oem ones. You can usually tell they need replacing when you hear a lot of transmission noise/rattling under certain loads. It seems odd that replacing them would change the clutch pull as it is not part of the operation of the clutch basket or clutch plate. All they do is dampen the clutch basket from the transmission.

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@advsquared I questioned it as well. Changing the fluid and reverse bleeding had no effect on the lever pull issue. Clutch pack looked fine and has time left. Changed the dampers and it was good again. Perhaps they squash down a bit with wear.

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@advsquared Still #2 position on the washer.

[@dhc8guru]

How did the dampers cause the dirty fluid?

[@dustinhoover3157]

They didn't. I checked the fluid because of a change with lever pull and engagement. The fluid was contaminated from hydraulic system internals, but the level was good. Replaced fluid, which did not correct original issue. Moved on to the clutch assembly for inspection. Found dampers to be worn. Replaced those, checked operation again, and the original issue was corrected.

[@ridemfast7625]

Bought a 500 and will change fluids with Bosch 5.1 fluid.

[@JackStrawfromWichita1]

Thank you

[@tommygrigg58]

Thanks for the info

[@stevedickerson3437]

Thanks for the vid! You said manual, I just bought a new 24 500 EXC, Does the manual not come with the bikes anymore ?

[@dustinhoover3157]

Your paper work should have a QR code to download the owners manual. However, the procedure's for clutch internals is not in the owner's manual. You will need to get the repair manual for that.

[@stevedickerson3437]

@@dustinhoover3157 Thanks so much! Ive had 11 KTMs since 2001, this is first one that didnt come with a manual.

[@jim1997330]

Does KTM fix the PDS swingarm wear Issue ???? 2024 version looks little bi different ~~

[@AdvancedTennisFoundation-ph9zo]

are those Mofun Amazon mirrors? Do you like them?

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@AdvancedTennisFoundation-ph9zo Double Take is the brand. Yes, they are quality.

[@thehennessee8082]

Good to know!! Do you use the KTM repair manual??

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@thehennessee8082 Usually yes. Definetely for torque specifications.

[@louisdoucet1498]

I owned 1 Ktm and now have 3 betas, all have zero issues. Why do Ktm owners put themselves in this situation, I much rather ride then fix my bike.

[@dustinhoover3157]

The Beta hype continues to pop up. Maybe there is truth to it. There are certainly some key selling points. Though I have heard from a reputable source, that the Beta's have been known to experience electrical issues. For me, it will be a time will tell situation.

[@louisdoucet1498]

@@dustinhoover3157 You are correct about the electrical issues and they are improving however they are minor and will not leave you stranded.

[@motionfactoryracing5914]

Just need to upgrade those stock footpegs now; )

[@calebw7177]

Unrelated but since you have vast experience on the same bike as me, I’m going ask anyway. Did the get ecu fix the flameout stall issue entirely? I went the dynojet, exhaust end cap, and reed removal route. My bike has more power and seemly better throttle response. However I still have the flameout issue, at low speed or when I’m clutching in and out on throttle. Only really happens in first gear riding. I also picked up some declaration popping with the dynojet. Didn’t know if you were experiencing any of these things with the ECU. My dynojet was also from tacomoto. The response from them was to confirm idle was at 1900rpm and just keep riding it. They never confirmed nor denied if this was normal for the dynojet.

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@calebw7177 I have posted some first impression video's about the GET ECU (stock as well), and doing a little bit of testing. I have a playlist for the KTM 500 talking about some of this, and I am working on several more follow up reviews. Though just to recap, I did not feel that my bike had a serious flame out issue even when stock. I seem to have an uncommon opinion on this, but my bike was only cutting out when I would try to rev it while stopped in neutral, from idle. The GET ECU did correct that, and I have a demonstration in my inital impression video for the GET ECU. I avoided a piggy back tuner because I didn't want a partial correction, I wanted a more complete tune. The symptoms you are describing might be related to that.

[@calebw7177]

@@dustinhoover3157 man thanks for the reply as always. I watched the initial impressions video on the ECU. Didn’t know if you noticed anything after more ride time. My problem is 100% flame out and not stall. Sometimes rolling down a hill using engine breaking the bike will die. It will also die if I’m clutch in and trying to pick the front tire up over a log or giving a quick burst of throttle off a ledge so the front end doesn’t dip. Since the dynojet isn’t providing the desired results, I was just trying to confirm a ECU is the solution before spending the dough. I probably won’t be going the tacomoto route for the future just based off of the lack luster customer support. Especially since they market the dynojet as the same solution for 1/2 the price. The way they pitch it is that it only thing you are missing out on is the map switch and the traction control. Both of which I don’t care about. That’s why went the dynojet route to begin with.

[@dustinhoover3157]

Gotcha. So far the only gripe I've had with the GET is that it seems to start a bit slower than I remember when stock. As in "fire up", not a cranking issue. I have mostly overlooked that due to the several benefits of the ecu. There is a good chance it can be corrected in the app I just haven't got there yet. Maybe you can try to return the power commander?

[@robsonenduro3316]

nice but kinda early, mine 500 exc-f from 2017 at 610 hours still on original rubbers and clutch.

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@robsonenduro3316 Yeah, I was bit surprised. I have come across some riders saying they are getting less than what I did. I don't feel that I am riding the bike hard, but I have rode alot of miles on pavement.

[@robsonenduro3316]

@@dustinhoover3157 what exact symptoms you had because of these worn rubbers? noise?

[@796andy2]

didnt the smcr's go thru this a couple years ago ?

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@796andy2 From what I am comming across, this appears to be a common issue. Though as more information comes in, it seems that miles/hours to failure vary significantly. This is my first KTM and I decided to keep track + report as I go. Good, bad, or indifferent.

[@7nash974]

can you do a "how to" video on this

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@7nash974 Yes I will make one.

[@7nash974]

@@dustinhoover3157 Thanks!!!!

[@7nash974]

@@dustinhoover3157 Taco Moto installed the ReKluse Kit on mine when they did my build so I would also be interested how long your new ones last since your are putting on miles much faster then me...:)

[@noneofyourbusiness5433]

A wear part??? I've been riding for 30 years and never needed to touch a clutch and I flog the shit out of them. I have a 300 and I've never seen these damper things.......sounds like more KTM bs just making the bike more complicated than it needs to be. So does this mean your clutch goes to shit every 80 hours? What a joke..........

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@noneofyourbusiness5433 I'm not happy about having those wear so soon either.

[@Eg-tl2js]

It was a $50 fix and you act like the clutch exploded and took the engine with it...

[@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf]

Why didn’t you bring it in to the dealer to have fixed on warranty?

[@realpremier]

no warranty on sportenduros, atleast here in europe. 30 days or so..

[@scottc4433]

We have a year in Canada . I had no issues for 2 years then my fuel pump got weak . Never quit just lost top end power .

[@mattyb7736]

KTM have a "warranty" Try claiming on it.......that's a different story.

[@scottc4433]

@@mattyb7736 probably depends on your dealer

[@schiessco]

Clutch dampers are a wear item, just like tires

[@xseal053]

You want to install the recluse clutch dampers, with the stock clutch, much more robust.

[@dustinhoover3157]

They were replaced with Rekluse dampers.

[@jamesal0]

Dampers have nothing to do with clutch take up point. Your master or slave cylinder had / has issues. Hence the dirty fluid. I'd take your bleed kit with you on the next few rides.

[@dustinhoover3157]

@@jamesal0 One would think so. However, what I did not mention is this video was that the fluid replacement was done one day, and the dampers were replaced two days later. There was no noticeable change with the fluid replacement. When the dampers were replaced there was a noticeable change right away.

[@rafaellastracom6411]

Amateur night at KTM.