The presentation of the bill IS a sign of severe mental health conditions of the authors.
@electronicshaman7 ай бұрын
seems they're happy to do anything to stop tobacco use as long as it doesn't interfere with the tax they get from the sale of tobacco 🤔
@Timic83tc7 ай бұрын
Yup.
@pymats7 ай бұрын
16.6% of teenagares are not regular vapers, another lie
@Timic83tc7 ай бұрын
Pure lies
@MilesDuHeaume7 ай бұрын
The Govt has been so lazy in reasonably regulating vaping, (they should have acted 3 years ago) now that it is a Crisis - there will be thousands of addicted kids having to turn to cigarettes, (FED Tax $8 Billion p.a.) if these Total Prohibition laws actually work. The Media has been complicit in ensuring the narrative is about Kids and Harm - and that's all there is to the story. What we have now is ludicrous, a total ban on the sale of vaping goods while continuing to allow the sale of highly-taxed, proven deadly combustible tobacco goods.
@pymats7 ай бұрын
major threat to popuation health, lie
@Toey697 ай бұрын
As Senator Canavan previously said it’s the Australian Government that is addicted to nicotine & the taxes it creates.
@pymats7 ай бұрын
yes kids are vaping because of the black market which you are fueling
@pymats7 ай бұрын
WHO corruption 101
@jamesstyles97926 ай бұрын
Good someone else can see what is happening. Good on you.
@magstar74oze7 ай бұрын
As an adult I’m sure we can make our own choices and don’t think it is up to politics to make them for me .yes I agree with keeping it out of reach for children. But like tobacco tax it and only sell to over 18 .just like the laws that are in place for smoking and alcohol. As an adult I think it be up to us to choose what we want Wetherby drinking, smoking or Vaping it’s part of Being an Adult having choice's not being dictated what we can and can’t do
@Timic83tc7 ай бұрын
Too bad
@milro08177 ай бұрын
What an absolute guess, has no idea what he's talking about, regurgitated scare tactics and rare obscure fringe anomalies. Brought to you by big tobacco $$$.
@nasgothus7 ай бұрын
Over 200 chemicals in vapes? Omg! I bet cigarettes have less than 200 chemicals, yes?
@bee6697 ай бұрын
Yer, the same chemicals found in the air we breathe, just at negligible levels.
@pymats7 ай бұрын
at last count around 7,000 chemicals in a cigarette
@Larkful_Dodger7 ай бұрын
Yes, including Formaldehyde used to preserve dead bodies, yet found in vape vapour (also in food and produced by the human body), but at fractional levels compared to cigarettes. The dose makes the poison.
@pymats7 ай бұрын
marketed to chilldren, lie
@bee6697 ай бұрын
This is literally Simon Chapman pulling the strings.
@elli4817 ай бұрын
Yeah so the smoking rates have fallen from 16% to 10% because people have taken up vaping. How can they say its a public Health menace? Do they not see that adults will take up smoking again and that will absorb any tax revenue gained from the cigs by having to pump it into the health care system to deal with the smokers. It boggles my mind.
@pymats7 ай бұрын
seizures, lie
@jesslanceford7 ай бұрын
I'm epileptic and have been vaping for 4 years... I haven't had 1 seizure in those 4 years LOL complete 🐂💩
@pymats7 ай бұрын
oral health issues, lie
@pymats7 ай бұрын
smokes still sol in 40,000 thoughout the country
@pymats7 ай бұрын
agressively promoted to kids by the industry, lie
@Timic83tc7 ай бұрын
Meanwhile alcohol has flavouring Dont see them coming for that.
@MichaelRees-ku9wi7 ай бұрын
What crap. When I was smoking I was taking my asthma medication during winter now been vaping for over 8 years and haven’t had any medication since
@matthewspencer78497 ай бұрын
I hope when everybody was going to vote during the state primary voiced their opinions loudly and often as they walked past the people handing out the leaflets. For example, I said which one of you guys is actually for legalising Vaping so that we can all reap the benefits as society we all have to speak loudly and often during these events, obviously not threatening people but raising awareness, and also finding out which one of these representatives are going to try to legalise Vaping, or a very least, have the discussions with the people that are higher up just something to think about next time we go to the polls but yes, this is just terrible news and all of it is lies and can be proven just by looking at governments around the world that have legalised it. It's just going to force it underground and if anything kids will be able to get their hands on it, even easier than what they do now, while restricting all the rest of us, forcing us back to cigarettes or forcing us to break the law sad days ahead at least in the short term until they look so ridiculous in the eyes of the Int'l community, they have no choice but to change their ways sadly, that seems to be the only thing that can ever change the minds of our politicians, Eva losing too much money or worse, yet losing Face and looking stupid and right now, we look like one of the stupidest countries on the face of the planet boot Mark Butler out of the TGA heck abolish the TGA, they get it wrong more often than they get it right and anyway look at all of the nightmare we've gone through over marijuana/ cannabis laws all of those people in jail for a bit of pot ridiculous the TGA is just another holdover-over-bloated government organisation from around the same time as the Reagan error, and it needs to be updated or completely reinvented from the ground up it is not fit for purpose and not living up to its obligations to give Australians a healthier alternative not to mention they're not even willing to listen to the scientific evidence from such intelligent people as Dr Colin Mendelsohn, and of course all of his other colleagues from around the world that are all saying the same thing that it is 96% healthier than a cigarette and that's not just them saying that that's what the data is telling them I hate to say it because I honestly never thought I'd see eye to eye with this man on anything but I'll probably be voting for Peter Dutton next time even though I despise him because at least he seems to be a bit more sensible about it if you like your vape then vote for Peter Dutton, but more importantly, write to Peter Dutton's office and remember to tell them you vape and you vote The medical nicotine vape are not fit for purpose Eva they taste like shit and do not satiate your cravings you end up smoking, half a packet of cigarettes as well
@pymats7 ай бұрын
surely he doesnt believe all the bs he is spewing here
@Timic83tc7 ай бұрын
He says it for the WHO overlords
@bee6697 ай бұрын
This speech has Simon Chapman written all over it.
@matttora1067 ай бұрын
Cant wait to vote to get this party out
@pymats7 ай бұрын
public health menace, lie
@nasgothus7 ай бұрын
They're sold next to candy shelves in stores? Omg!
@pymats7 ай бұрын
just another lie, check it out for yourself
@birdman_697 ай бұрын
I can not believe the lies spewed here. I have never felt better since using e cigarettes to cease smoking
@Timic83tc7 ай бұрын
They clearly think it will pass since they are already blocking vape stores online for Australian IP's now. What a bunch of grubs
@tommorawetz29407 ай бұрын
You're dreaming mate!!! Read some science. Wat no Diacetyl??
@Carolsweety17 ай бұрын
Cigarettes and Mark Butler = health menace.
@grantesler59227 ай бұрын
How dumb
@tommorawetz29407 ай бұрын
You're worse than Glantz!!
@pymats7 ай бұрын
you are ignoring your responsibility by spruiking so much crap
@pymats7 ай бұрын
worsen mental health condition, lie
@tommorawetz29407 ай бұрын
So sacking two nsw cops for smashing a 13yr old?
@tommorawetz29407 ай бұрын
ABF yeah right!!!
@leeannekennedy46597 ай бұрын
Always finding another way to control people
@kieransmith17967 ай бұрын
Absolute BS. This guy is a criminal.
@Timic83tc7 ай бұрын
Criminals govern down under.
@billtbodger6 ай бұрын
This bill is simply based on unproven or discredited LIES. While I do not like disposable vapes they have a place as they mean people who get caught out do not have to buy cigarettes. Flavours have always been driven by the adult vapers not the industry or for childrens use. The use of tobacco and menthol flavours only will mean most vapers will not make the switch to a much safer alternative to smoking. When I first started vaping flavours were prohibitively expensive meaning I could only afford tobacco flavours which meant I dual used until the cost of none tobacco eliquids became low enough to be affordable, once this happened I quit smoking in under 2 weeks and have not smoked a cigarette in almost 11years. Flavours SAVE LIVES
@tommorawetz29407 ай бұрын
Nay, nay, nay
@MickDoolan7 ай бұрын
Zero credibility he's selling cigarettes don't forget.
@leeannekennedy46597 ай бұрын
Lies lies lies, health globally went down hill after 2021.
@bee6697 ай бұрын
I watched you this morning- openly lying to the public- Big tobacco has nothing to do with the illegal vape trade in Australia. Prominent in pharmacies thanks to the Prohibitionist prescription model. You must know this. So disappointed.