First reading of Therapeutic Goods and Other Legislation Amendment (Vaping) Bill 2024, 21 March 2024

[@Timic83tc]

This bill will worsen mental health conditions.

[@norbertzillatron3456]

The presentation of the bill IS a sign of severe mental health conditions of the authors.

[@electronicshaman]

seems they're happy to do anything to stop tobacco use as long as it doesn't interfere with the tax they get from the sale of tobacco 🤔

[@Timic83tc]

Yup.

[@pymats]

16.6% of teenagares are not regular vapers, another lie

[@Timic83tc]

Pure lies

[@MilesDuHeaume]

The Govt has been so lazy in reasonably regulating vaping, (they should have acted 3 years ago) now that it is a Crisis - there will be thousands of addicted kids having to turn to cigarettes, (FED Tax $8 Billion p.a.) if these Total Prohibition laws actually work. The Media has been complicit in ensuring the narrative is about Kids and Harm - and that's all there is to the story. What we have now is ludicrous, a total ban on the sale of vaping goods while continuing to allow the sale of highly-taxed, proven deadly combustible tobacco goods.

[@pymats]

major threat to popuation health, lie

[@Toey69]

As Senator Canavan previously said it’s the Australian Government that is addicted to nicotine & the taxes it creates.

[@pymats]

yes kids are vaping because of the black market which you are fueling

[@pymats]

WHO corruption 101

[@jamesstyles9792]

Good someone else can see what is happening. Good on you.

[@magstar74oze]

As an adult I’m sure we can make our own choices and don’t think it is up to politics to make them for me .yes I agree with keeping it out of reach for children. But like tobacco tax it and only sell to over 18 .just like the laws that are in place for smoking and alcohol. As an adult I think it be up to us to choose what we want Wetherby drinking, smoking or Vaping it’s part of Being an Adult having choice's not being dictated what we can and can’t do

[@Timic83tc]

Too bad

[@milro0817]

What an absolute guess, has no idea what he's talking about, regurgitated scare tactics and rare obscure fringe anomalies. Brought to you by big tobacco $$$.

[@nasgothus]

Over 200 chemicals in vapes? Omg! I bet cigarettes have less than 200 chemicals, yes?

[@bee669]

Yer, the same chemicals found in the air we breathe, just at negligible levels.

[@pymats]

at last count around 7,000 chemicals in a cigarette

[@Larkful_Dodger]

Yes, including Formaldehyde used to preserve dead bodies, yet found in vape vapour (also in food and produced by the human body), but at fractional levels compared to cigarettes. The dose makes the poison.

[@pymats]

marketed to chilldren, lie

[@bee669]

This is literally Simon Chapman pulling the strings.

[@elli481]

Yeah so the smoking rates have fallen from 16% to 10% because people have taken up vaping. How can they say its a public Health menace? Do they not see that adults will take up smoking again and that will absorb any tax revenue gained from the cigs by having to pump it into the health care system to deal with the smokers. It boggles my mind.

[@pymats]

seizures, lie

[@jesslanceford]

I'm epileptic and have been vaping for 4 years... I haven't had 1 seizure in those 4 years LOL complete 🐂💩

[@pymats]

oral health issues, lie

[@pymats]

smokes still sol in 40,000 thoughout the country

[@pymats]

agressively promoted to kids by the industry, lie

[@Timic83tc]

Meanwhile alcohol has flavouring Dont see them coming for that.

[@MichaelRees-ku9wi]

What crap. When I was smoking I was taking my asthma medication during winter now been vaping for over 8 years and haven’t had any medication since

[@matthewspencer7849]

I hope when everybody was going to vote during the state primary voiced their opinions loudly and often as they walked past the people handing out the leaflets. For example, I said which one of you guys is actually for legalising Vaping so that we can all reap the benefits as society we all have to speak loudly and often during these events, obviously not threatening people but raising awareness, and also finding out which one of these representatives are going to try to legalise Vaping, or a very least, have the discussions with the people that are higher up just something to think about next time we go to the polls but yes, this is just terrible news and all of it is lies and can be proven just by looking at governments around the world that have legalised it. It's just going to force it underground and if anything kids will be able to get their hands on it, even easier than what they do now, while restricting all the rest of us, forcing us back to cigarettes or forcing us to break the law sad days ahead at least in the short term until they look so ridiculous in the eyes of the Int'l community, they have no choice but to change their ways sadly, that seems to be the only thing that can ever change the minds of our politicians, Eva losing too much money or worse, yet losing Face and looking stupid and right now, we look like one of the stupidest countries on the face of the planet boot Mark Butler out of the TGA heck abolish the TGA, they get it wrong more often than they get it right and anyway look at all of the nightmare we've gone through over marijuana/ cannabis laws all of those people in jail for a bit of pot ridiculous the TGA is just another holdover-over-bloated government organisation from around the same time as the Reagan error, and it needs to be updated or completely reinvented from the ground up it is not fit for purpose and not living up to its obligations to give Australians a healthier alternative not to mention they're not even willing to listen to the scientific evidence from such intelligent people as Dr Colin Mendelsohn, and of course all of his other colleagues from around the world that are all saying the same thing that it is 96% healthier than a cigarette and that's not just them saying that that's what the data is telling them I hate to say it because I honestly never thought I'd see eye to eye with this man on anything but I'll probably be voting for Peter Dutton next time even though I despise him because at least he seems to be a bit more sensible about it if you like your vape then vote for Peter Dutton, but more importantly, write to Peter Dutton's office and remember to tell them you vape and you vote The medical nicotine vape are not fit for purpose Eva they taste like shit and do not satiate your cravings you end up smoking, half a packet of cigarettes as well

[@pymats]

surely he doesnt believe all the bs he is spewing here

[@Timic83tc]

He says it for the WHO overlords

[@bee669]

This speech has Simon Chapman written all over it.

[@matttora106]

Cant wait to vote to get this party out

[@pymats]

public health menace, lie

[@nasgothus]

They're sold next to candy shelves in stores? Omg!

[@pymats]

just another lie, check it out for yourself

[@birdman_69]

I can not believe the lies spewed here. I have never felt better since using e cigarettes to cease smoking

[@Timic83tc]

They clearly think it will pass since they are already blocking vape stores online for Australian IP's now. What a bunch of grubs

[@tommorawetz2940]

You're dreaming mate!!! Read some science. Wat no Diacetyl??

[@Carolsweety1]

Cigarettes and Mark Butler = health menace.

[@grantesler5922]

How dumb

[@tommorawetz2940]

You're worse than Glantz!!

[@pymats]

you are ignoring your responsibility by spruiking so much crap

[@pymats]

worsen mental health condition, lie

[@tommorawetz2940]

So sacking two nsw cops for smashing a 13yr old?

[@tommorawetz2940]

ABF yeah right!!!

[@leeannekennedy4659]

Always finding another way to control people

[@kieransmith1796]

Absolute BS. This guy is a criminal.

[@Timic83tc]

Criminals govern down under.

[@billtbodger]

This bill is simply based on unproven or discredited LIES. While I do not like disposable vapes they have a place as they mean people who get caught out do not have to buy cigarettes. Flavours have always been driven by the adult vapers not the industry or for childrens use. The use of tobacco and menthol flavours only will mean most vapers will not make the switch to a much safer alternative to smoking. When I first started vaping flavours were prohibitively expensive meaning I could only afford tobacco flavours which meant I dual used until the cost of none tobacco eliquids became low enough to be affordable, once this happened I quit smoking in under 2 weeks and have not smoked a cigarette in almost 11years. Flavours SAVE LIVES

[@tommorawetz2940]

Nay, nay, nay

[@MickDoolan]

Zero credibility he's selling cigarettes don't forget.

[@leeannekennedy4659]

Lies lies lies, health globally went down hill after 2021.

[@bee669]

I watched you this morning- openly lying to the public- Big tobacco has nothing to do with the illegal vape trade in Australia. Prominent in pharmacies thanks to the Prohibitionist prescription model. You must know this. So disappointed.

[@howardpaulins]

WOW!!! Ridiculous!!!!

[@grantesler5922]

Lol

[@tommorawetz2940]

Booooooo