I hope the rest of the sled is as high quality as the doo. I went in to look at some 2021 Kaos sleds and all 5 had extremely loose steering stems. It was about as tight as the steering column on a 20 year old craftsman riding lawn mower when you yank on it. It clunks up, down, and front to back.
@Jdplayz-bq4ys3 жыл бұрын
no they have great quality from what i have seen
@Cappyow3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like builder error aka the mechanics
@mrbillybob4443 жыл бұрын
Yeah that can really depend on the dealer putting it together. They are shipped as kits
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
If you expect a Poo to be anywhere close to the Doo if build quality your vastly mistaken. The Matryx is worse then the Axis.
@gregsouther72933 жыл бұрын
@@mrbillybob444 they come fairly complete in the crate. Skis and windshields are about the only thing not attached from the factory. The setup guy is usually the lowest position at most dealers so a lot of the time they don't properly adjust things.
@stevelikesgummybears16623 жыл бұрын
This channel has done wonders for my understanding of riding overall. Any tips for those working on mountains with say early 2000 500s? Would love to see a "working through it" vid. 😄
@leftyeh64953 жыл бұрын
My tip... Don't. It's worth the money to have a sled that won't kill you. I have a EFI water cooled 500, and an RMK 800. Guess which one goes ice fishing and which one goes to the mountains? I tried it, it sucked. I was stuck non-stop, and killing myself where the RMK goes without even thinking about breathing hard. If you just want to cruise the trails, it'll work most days. Off trail and you'd better bring all your buddies to dig with you.
@stevelikesgummybears16623 жыл бұрын
@@leftyeh6495 it's what I have available to use at work. Bout 3 yrs riding all on ski resort property. I discovered this channel after getting stuck in the flats on a work road in 4+ft checking the lift line. Trust me, I know it ain't ideal. we have groomed terrain up here in most situations but sometimes you gotta get to that lift tower. Any extra knowledge on downhill control in general is appreciated.
@gumballer1333 жыл бұрын
@@stevelikesgummybears1662 What are you riding exactly?
@therealjessejames1113 жыл бұрын
@@stevelikesgummybears1662 lol just tell them to get you a nice 174 turbo. no more stuck :)
@Rickydbaby3 жыл бұрын
Factory tether! SOLD!
@9The0Unknown73 жыл бұрын
-looks at my 2008 summit- yup, definitely was a factor.
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
😂 Doo has had that for umm? 20 years?
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
For sure, we have been asking for a tether for years.
@joshpitts72563 жыл бұрын
What's a Doo🤔 new hair setup🤷♂️
@kwmiked3 жыл бұрын
Teather kinda sucks, why they call it a magnetic when its more of a click on with plastic fingers then magnet. Its got a bit size magnetic. I took mine off and went Durapro on my trail sled. Now thats a magnetic teather! 👌
@kenbouchard62673 жыл бұрын
As usual NXT Level give the right information and excellent feedback! Thumbs up ! On another note for Polaris , A snowcheck programm is order in advance and give a chance to a manufacture to figure their inventory And be more efficient, well 24 hours after the new 2022 release , I tried to snowcheck and their are sold out ! How this can happening ... Not impress by Polaris .
@andrewlight67863 жыл бұрын
Such a good looking sled and they sound awesome!
@chrisborns59723 жыл бұрын
I was hoping it would be this good can't wait to see the details
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
Us too. Its better than we were hoping.
@kenchiison45703 жыл бұрын
Sure hope they did something to their bottom end. A tether? We've had those for decades on doos.
@leftyeh64953 жыл бұрын
850 had a design flaw for 19, fixed for 20 and 21. All warranty claims got a new bottom end casing which tells you they figured it out and fixed it. Tether was a $40 part that took 10 minutes to install. They were taking advantage of that extra $38 for a majority of the RMK's sold.
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
@@leftyeh6495 are you kidding?? The 21’s have been having nightmares with their bottom ends. Just go ask a dealer that sells both.
@208SledHead3 жыл бұрын
Polaris dropped a bomb on the industry. So amazing. SUPER stoked on the 22' lineup - and SUPER stoked for you Dan. So rad that Polaris continues to support you and your fellow athletes. Couldn't happen to a better guy
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
Huh? They are a little late for that. This is lame and LATE. Just another typical copy cat.
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
For sure, we are so lucky to have a partner like Polaris. These new sleds are going to be so good.
@208SledHead3 жыл бұрын
@@ianstuart7395 You're obviously another BRP troll. Do you girls have anything better to do with your lives than troll Polaris every year during this time??? Grow up.
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
@@208SledHead 😂. Just amazed at what Polaris fan boys get excited about. Heck I got a whole new BRP owned brand of sleds to check out. I could care a less about what Poo does, I stopped caring years ago when I used to ride Poo until I bought my first E-Tec. I said I would try Poo again when their engines catch up, still waiting 13 years later.
@208SledHead3 жыл бұрын
@@ianstuart7395 You're right. You COULD care less about what Polaris is doing because you're here - paying attention to what Polaris is doing. Grow up.
@backpackertoo3 жыл бұрын
Now just put that motor in the XCR and than we’re talking!
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
Man would that be a good time :)
@woodyo.95673 жыл бұрын
I see your used to the axys chassis. The key isn't there any more. Lol nice machine!
@casen17373 жыл бұрын
Those are some sick sleds Dan !
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
For sure, we are pumped.
@kadecooper2463 жыл бұрын
It will be cool to see how the Boost compares to the aftermarket turbos. Performance, Price, weight. Also what aftermarket does with the factory turbo.
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
Or with the already existing Doo turbo that Polaris just copied.
@kadecooper2463 жыл бұрын
@@ianstuart7395 you don’t develop a factory turbo system in a year. So don’t think they copied Skidoo. Plus if you compare the Summit Turbo to the Boost you will end up comparing sleds instead of turbo systems. I’m more interested in the turbo system then the sled.
@drifter56823 жыл бұрын
@@ianstuart7395 like the 800 twin skidoo copied doolaid drinkers this isn't a copy you doing only has 3lbs of boost the poo has 9 the doo is nothing but a altitude compensator 🤣
@johnelliott38963 жыл бұрын
I'm still rocking my 2008 IQ 700 I'm thinking a new Khaos is in order next year!!
@loganpickett16713 жыл бұрын
That is a cool sled. I just have a hard time getting so stoked about it because Doo has already been doing a lot of those things. So it makes me think that Doo still has the leg up on Polaris. However, that sled does seem like a monster and I am stoked to ride one to compare to my Ski-Doo factory turbo. One question that I do have. Is it as heavy as the Ski-Doo turbos? Mine is like a freaking gun safe hahaha.
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
We don't have exact weights but even with the turbo it will be lighter than the Ski-Doo turbo.
@kevingilchrist87363 жыл бұрын
It amazes me how they can just make improve year after year. Awesome beyond awesome.
@lucasaubin16613 жыл бұрын
You are impressed by the way they follow what ski doo is doing year after year?
@maxerdman41553 жыл бұрын
@@lucasaubin1661 they make it better
@Ry_Pox3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasaubin1661 so everyone is just copying the guys from the early 2007 era and putting turbos on sleds 😂
@lucasaubin16613 жыл бұрын
@@maxerdman4155 I'm not saying that doo or polaris is better. What I'm saying is for the last couple of years, everytime doo comes out with a new feature/ sled, polaris adds it to its line up 1 or 2 years later.
@ryanevans6043 жыл бұрын
With a whopping 3psi like skidoo?
@javyngones3 жыл бұрын
Wish they did something like the skidoo shot
@vincelombardi26693 жыл бұрын
Honestly Polaris killed it IMO. The only thing missing was shot start. We can’t always get everything but let’s hope 2023 they update that.
@kenchiison45703 жыл бұрын
@@vincelombardi2669 .SHOT is yet another ski doo only feature. I believe you need direct injection for it and the 7 year patent won't be up for a couple more years.
@Dpher3 жыл бұрын
Its called your right arm its not hard to pull start a sled lol
@Dpher3 жыл бұрын
A gym pass is a lot cheaper than the shot system if thats an issue
@joshkolden91033 жыл бұрын
Polaris had to save something to add for the next couple years.
@brandondougherty72133 жыл бұрын
Dan, how does the new platform compare to the Axys as far as holding and edge and putting it on its side?
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
The handling characteristics are very similar to the Axys just improved in every way.
@brandondougherty72133 жыл бұрын
@@NextLevelRidingClinics Thank You Sir
@aaronhicks58083 жыл бұрын
Guess it’s time to cash in the kids college funds.
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
No kidding
@chadperley77363 жыл бұрын
Dan can you tell me will my fox float shocks fit on the new Matrix sled? They are the same react front end and same rear skid so was curious. Thanks great video!!
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
We haven't tried to put shocks on the new sled yet but it's our understanding that they will fit with the exception of air shocks on the rear track shock. Polaris moved the upper idler wheels in so the body won't clear. Worst case you would need to get a new rear track shock.
@motorsportsguy51203 жыл бұрын
that thing is sick! only 700 kms on my 2019 rmk 800 wife said no,,time for new wife..and sled lol
@aaronhicks58083 жыл бұрын
Totally awesome! 💪🏼💪🏼
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
@2WheelKam3 жыл бұрын
New Polaris looks great!
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
For sure. Thanks for watching
@voxpopuli9053 жыл бұрын
I’m a little disappointed the switchback XCR is gone in 2022. I was hoping to see that with the 650
@davidrowley82513 жыл бұрын
The MY22 650 Indy XCR is available with a 136" track, same as the Switchback XCR had in the past. And it's got more HD features & parts.
@andytranter3 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about getting a mountain sled to tow skiers. Perhaps you have some tips, advice, and comments before I go ahead?
@andytranter3 жыл бұрын
@@amog5093 oh, i should have included that I'll be towing off piste, in hokkaido japan backcountry. several meters of untouched fresh through trees, on relatively mellow pitches at least. resale on sleds in Japan is ridiculous, they seem to barely ever lose their value, thus its more effective to buy a new one instead of paying 99% the price for a beat up old one.
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
We are actually planning on a video about this in the near future.
@andytranter3 жыл бұрын
@@amog5093 it's been 10 years since I owned a sled, thinking about getting back into it and want to get stuck less too hence watching next level. But your answer made me realise that there's a very big difference in types of towing.
@andytranter3 жыл бұрын
@@NextLevelRidingClinics awesome! A tip perhaps; My arms used to get too tired behind the sled all day and up hills with ski ropes, so setup a cool cheap harness idea with 2 mountain bike tyre inner tubes and a large carabiner that took only fingers to hold on but can still eject. Bike tyre tubes looped around your waist/butt (not stepped into), loop ends held with carabiner at your front to make a kind of belt you just wear all day. Knot rope to create a loop a few ft from the end. Loop rope end through carabiner, then the knot (creating a pulley system) and hold the end anyway you like (I like to hold behind my back it's quite comfortable) It's so easy to hold all day long, but safe to just let go and it releases and you have some shock absorbtion with the rubber. Recommended water resistant rope, otherwise it ices up, gets heavy, and doesn't slide through knot easily when u let go.
@paulrichey54793 жыл бұрын
Dan in the video you mentioned it had been awhile since you had ridden a turbo. Why did you guys stop ridding turbos?
@mrbillybob4443 жыл бұрын
Weight probably. Most turbos are 4 stroke and heavier
@MrTB3213 жыл бұрын
I’m curious why you use the actual key to turn off the sled. Don’t most people just use the kill switch??? That’s what I do
@buttmuffins41783 жыл бұрын
We all do but it’s likely “not recommend by the factory”, lol
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
Many of the sleds we have in our fleet have electric start and the bigger PID gauge, leaving the key on for extended times could drain the battery so we have got into the habit of using the key.
@rowdytillwedie3 жыл бұрын
Where can i get your klim gold and black helmet 🤯🤯🤯🤯 can’t find it on site
@joeyhoagland8603 жыл бұрын
...they are coming Fall 2021
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
Like Joey said this is a new helmet for next season.
@joshwalters58753 жыл бұрын
What does it push for boost
@trx450rlove23 жыл бұрын
What are the horsepower numbers on this sled?
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
We don't have exact numbers but Polaris tell us that compared to the Patriot 850 it makes 10% more power at sea level and 50% more power at 10,000 feet.
@vincelombardi26693 жыл бұрын
We need to know. Series 7 or series 8 track to snow check a 2022 khaos.
@Johno5303 жыл бұрын
20k for the boost model are they crazy!?
@joshkolden91033 жыл бұрын
15k for the none boosted model, a Boondocker agility kit is 5k to add.. So they are on par with their price.
@FBI_whatchagonnaDo3 жыл бұрын
Paid 15k for a 2021 boosted yamaha sidewinder that's basically guaranteed to last for the life of 2-3 boosted 2 strokes... so yeah, they're crazy. That pricing SUCKS
@jasonhill60743 жыл бұрын
@@FBI_whatchagonnaDo hahahaha take that boosted tank to the mountains and see how far you won't make it. If you seen the places these boosted 850's will take you, and how easily they will get you into that terrain you wouldn't think twice about the extra 5g. No comparison.
@joshpitts72563 жыл бұрын
@@FBI_whatchagonnaDo what's a Yamaha🤷♂️
@therealjessejames1113 жыл бұрын
@@joshpitts7256 who knew they made sleds haha
@brodiewright79623 жыл бұрын
How deep do the treads come standard
@leftyeh64953 жыл бұрын
2.6, 2.75, and 3 inch are all available.
@GoingToPlaid3 жыл бұрын
How is turbo lag being handled? What is the warranty on these?
@pajamatime57503 жыл бұрын
2 year on the turbo. 4 on every other engine of snowchecked
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
We don't fully understand the technology but there are systems (airbox reeds etc) to help with turbo lag and they work. The sled has almost no lag.
@s.a.t4193 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry it will grenade well Before warranty runs out lol. The naturally aspirated ones blow left and right lol. Junk motors and sleds
@pajamatime57503 жыл бұрын
@@s.a.t419 Not sure what engine you’re referring to.... The 800’s of ‘09-‘14 weren’t great but since the introduction of the 800 HO in 2015 Polaris’s engines have been far greater.... A couple hiccups with the 2019 850 intro but the 2020’s and 2021’s have been very reliable. The notion that Polaris engines are grenades is a myth and severely over exaggerated. Usually spewed by a Skidoo fanboy.
@drifter56823 жыл бұрын
@@s.a.t419 keep drinking the doolaid wasn't long ago skidoo 800 blew apart non stop
@9The0Unknown73 жыл бұрын
I went broke watching this.
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
We feel your pain
@KliqDon19833 жыл бұрын
Polaris is always a year or two behind Ski Doo
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
If thats the case we are happy we waited :)
@drifter56823 жыл бұрын
Really so skidoo was ahead when the first big twins came out uhhh no they were way behind polaris rmk started the mountain riding trend not skidoo you must be young
@davidrowley82513 жыл бұрын
You mean like the 650 engine, or Belt Drive tracks, or GPS gauge with group ride & wifi & satellite image view(MY22), or temperature selectable SmartWarmers?
@osquad13463 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by a tapered tunnel
@Ry_Pox3 жыл бұрын
It gets thinner towards the rear of the tunnel
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
Same as Ski-Doo, they gen 4 is tapered as well.
@aaronhicks58083 жыл бұрын
Does the new Turbski run on pump gas?
@dawsonbrown53783 жыл бұрын
Yes
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
Yeah pump gas and the same clutch weights at all elevations. It adjusts boost for elevation so it pretty much makes the same power at all elevations. +10% hp at sea level and +50% hp at 10,000 feet.
@АхилБакиев3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it will cost near 30 kilo$ in Russia, and probably problems with plugs like 850
@badqualityh2o7023 жыл бұрын
How many ponies??
@wasupfool56923 жыл бұрын
Theyre not saying, just 10% more at sea level. They will need it because they need that to catch the 850 Doo. Dyno claims the Patriot has more hp but can't catch the 850 Doo in a race
@pajamatime57503 жыл бұрын
@@wasupfool5692 Really? My 850 patriot stays ahead of the etec every race....
@BLACKDIAMOND-iw7qm3 жыл бұрын
My God i need one
@josephcockroft91483 жыл бұрын
The new ones look like gen 3 doos
@bobthemagicman3 жыл бұрын
"In early 2021...", Yo dude, it's March 1st let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Just say a couple weeks ago ;)
@backcountryshitok3 жыл бұрын
They gave him the machine in nov or dec probably
@stinthedude3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@backcountryshitok3 жыл бұрын
Burants been running this chassis for 2 years in secret
@alekseyzemskov0583 жыл бұрын
💥💥💥
@slangingiron40163 жыл бұрын
Didn’t the stocker Matryx have a shit lot of crankshaft problems? Now there they throw a turbo on it.. let’s see how these hold up.
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
Polaris says the 850 Patriot was developed from the beginning to work with boost so it should be good.
@mr68camero1 Жыл бұрын
👏👏
@SLEDNEXX3 жыл бұрын
Man does he look old now, that new grey hair really changes his look.
@markmielnik10313 жыл бұрын
Factory tether($7.00 from your local Canadian tire). Large GPS screen( So you can try to figure out how your ski doo friends made it so high up when it shows a vertical climb). Awesome boost at sea level( because all mountain sled owners ride at sea level🙄) Nice “BOOST” decal. Come on, lets be honest with each other. These are supposed to be game changing sleds but all I see is Polaris following a leader again. Like they say, I guess there is always next year😂😂😂😂😂
@ronwikeheiser67063 жыл бұрын
How high are the mountains in Saskatchewan again lol
@specializ203 жыл бұрын
Lol this is funny
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
Guys in NFLD. Try to boost their Poos at sea level and they are constantly blowing up, it’s almost comical.
@markmielnik10313 жыл бұрын
@@ronwikeheiser6706 Yup, just proof read my comment one more time. Still don’t see any mention of Saskatchewan so go easy on them Pilsner drinking flat landers👍
@drifter56823 жыл бұрын
3lbs verse 9lbs and your doo is 20lbs heavier power to weight get a grip
@andrewkaul69083 жыл бұрын
So Sick!!
@robb24983 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the party. Better late than never.
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
Its going to be a party for sure :)
@SOS-School_Of_Survival3 жыл бұрын
"lots of storage". Holds one pair of gloves. Im kidding that sled is fucking awesome
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
No kidding, its so good.
@ryangenge59703 жыл бұрын
Polaris always brag and I get that. They do a great job in 1 specific little area. But can they add fit and finish compared to Ski-Doo? The answer is no! Always!
@jefferyyeager79343 жыл бұрын
LETS GO!
@ianmcnichol11113 жыл бұрын
If cat don’t have some kinda boost. I be pissed. Got bring a factory speedwerx supercharger
@vincelombardi26693 жыл бұрын
I hate to break it to you but they have leaked info out and looks like no boost for cat this year. Cat needs boost, and update lighter tighter and smaller body and new smaller seat like the skidoo and Polaris to be on top. I love my 2021 alpha. However just snow check a Polaris tonight
@ianmcnichol11113 жыл бұрын
Ya thinking your right
@gtiguy1992able3 жыл бұрын
Bet they change colors and call it all new
@elvisisalive27163 жыл бұрын
Polaris should include Jean shorts and rainbow pants to anyone that buys that. DOO ALL THE WAY !
@drifter56823 жыл бұрын
No thats what you doolaid drinkers where
@ianmcnichol11113 жыл бұрын
Copy ski doo. How it different. That’s why hope cat goes charger
@danielware43163 жыл бұрын
Skidoo did it first, but polaris did it better.
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
@@danielware4316 😂. Easy when you know what mark to hit. Don’t say that yet, the boost at sea level is going to be an epic mistake. I have never heard of a Polaris turbo at low elevation that didn’t blow up.
@s.a.t4193 жыл бұрын
@@ianstuart7395 They blow up non turbo. Havent seen one make it to 2000 miles yet!
@gtiguy1992able3 жыл бұрын
Cat will put new colors hahaha that’s it
@danielware43163 жыл бұрын
@@ianstuart7395 do you own an apple device?
@jacklavrick20043 жыл бұрын
Has super cool tech but is the ugliest snowmobile ever!!!
@mattpilon78623 жыл бұрын
Just polaris copying skidoo again
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t Polaris ever come up with their own ideas? Goodness they are lame. Lynx have more ingenuity and they are BRP for crying out loud.
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
I think if you look in detail at the turbo design you will find a lot of their own ideas.
@ianstuart73953 жыл бұрын
@@NextLevelRidingClinics let’s just pray that the sea level guys don’t exploit the Turbo, sea level and two stroke turbos do not mix. The guys I know in NFLD running 20’ and 21’ Rmks with turbos have nothing but issues. Especially with fuel, they have to run on race fuel and even then they are just constantly throwing detonation codes until they blow. I DO understand that these are designed for the mountains, however, tons are GOING to make it to the trails and sea level. I really hope that POO took this into account, and if they are rock solid at sea level I will eat my words gladly.
@tommyeriksson32493 жыл бұрын
Yawn! What else is new?
@owenarthur13963 жыл бұрын
I’m pissed Polaris just absolutely copied skidoo and it is not cool at all yes I ride doos but I don’t understand how they got away with this
@NextLevelRidingClinics3 жыл бұрын
can you elaborate on what they copied?
@owenarthur13963 жыл бұрын
@@NextLevelRidingClinics well the factory turbo and factory tether I am happy you Polaris riders have this now I apologize I was heated in the moment
@SeasonalOccupation3 жыл бұрын
I cant imagine you can patent an engine modification, it's engineered completely different than a skidoo turbo. The only "copying" i see is just headlines like "850" and "turbo". In the end good competition between businesses will always benefit consumers so I see no reason to be offended as a sled buyer.
@ninelivescrew6363 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure polaris has been testing this sled for the last two years. And skidoo didn't come up with the idea by themselves! Polaris and skidoo are just listening to their customer base!
@baconmaster2233 жыл бұрын
@@owenarthur1396 the factory turbo thing is only new to the sled game and if you really want to get mad at anyone for "copying" the factory turbo on a sled you need to be mad at skidoo for it because I'm fairly sure cat/yamaha did it a while ago.....