First-Time Doberman Owners Confess Their Biggest Mistakes

[@alphadog2133]

My biggest mistake as a first time owner was getting 2 Dobies at the same time.

[@atomicbrothers8600]

It’s worth it to have them together for company, but yeah trying to teach 2 dogs at same time🫣

[@alphadog2133]

@@atomicbrothers8600 ikr

[@DobermanPlanet]

So sorry to hear this, but it's totally understandable. Having two to raise is twice the amount of work and can really take a lot out of you trying to give them both the best.

[@alphadog2133]

@@DobermanPlanet absolutely

[@staciarupp522]

I did this as well. 2 sisters. But they are my babies 🥰

[@Blackhairmlssimp]

OMG! thanks for putting that urinating issue out there! My dobbie Laika is 2 1/2 yo and was spayed at little over 1 yo didn’t have an issue with her until 2 months ago, she started having incontince issues peeing in the floor, bed, couches and it happened when she was sleeping or when she is scared. Tomorrow I will take her to the vet since we first thought it was fear pee.

[@oldirondemolitionderbyvideos]

Our first doberman was completely potty trained as yours is, but also experienced urination issues and it was due to spay incontinence (started about the same time as Zeta, a few months after she was spayed). She was put on a medication DES (diethylstilboestrol) and she started out with a pill every day, then every other day and ended up that a pill every 4 days controlled the problem (we just had to find a medication schedule that helped with the problem so it took some adjusting). You should look up information about spay incontinence and what they can treat it with. I'm sure there is something that can help. What a pretty girl you have too

[@jennygInspired]

Same but mine was fixed by doggie estrogen

[@Kari-jm5gs]

True

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you for taking your time to write this suggestion! Very insightful and it's great to know you found something that worked well with your Doberman. Gives Michael and Jackie some hope!

[@starlakelsey2782]

We started out same way but as years progressed the Proin ended up being used every day. We could not go every other day but could do 1/4 dose every day then we had to gradually increase over time when break through leaking started again.

[@MultiChillidog]

yes, agree, this was my immediate diagnosis when they mentioned her incontinence while sleeping and that she had been spayed. There are nerve endings that have been severed during the surgery (as happens in all surgeries) which send signals to her brain, that are currently not functioning, in time the nerves will grow back, and this problem will usually go away eventually, but medication maybe be necessary until this happens, and she gains control again of her bladder. Also limiting water intake especially leading up to nap times, and bed time, will help

[@doberbrat17]

My female Doberman has the same issue due to urinary incontinence! She began having this issue when she was about 5 years old and is now 10 years old. The only thing I have found that helps her is Proin. It’s been a godsend! She would get so embarrassed when she would wake up and find pee around her. She would jump up and go into panic mode! I get your frustration bc I have been there. Good luck in finding a solution that works for you and Zeta!

[@lindseyhamilton1002]

same thing happen to me too!

[@Evolved-Tradez]

yep, the leaking thing can be helped with Proin. I started my doberman with 25 mg, but a year later had to move up to the 50mg dose. Annoying that the price of this med had gone up like 50% or more over the past year or so ordering online. I recently found out that I can get this prescription filled at costco cheaper than online sources I have come across.

[@petebrooks1223]

I'm rowing the same boat as you two. I have a now 3yr old red, Lucy. She spent her first year and a half with no rules or training. So I basically have a puppy still. I've learned a ton from John's channel. Thanks again. Dobermans are just not like any other dog. A genius brain and an amazing physical ability. When paired with the right owner, they are the perfect dog.....period

[@eppyz]

Have a 3 1/2 month old Female Dobie, and she is biting everything, my ankles, wrists, it just gets overwhelming. We are just now beginning professional training so hope to learn some tips. I feel like I am the only person that didn't do the ears or cut the tail on their Dobie...Makes her look different than everyone else's I guess :) Wish me Luck!! My first dog ever at 50 yrs old haha

[@TheTrutheverytime]

Never to late to have a dog and don’t worry when the pup change the theet won’t bite no more make sure every time she do say no ! And push away

[@strausd02]

I had the same issue after I had my Lady spayed. She was 8 months old Personally I think when she was spayed the muscle was damaged...the spinchter muscle was weakened. I took her to the veterinarian and she was prescribed a medication that tightened her spinchter muscle. She took the medication for 8 years? When she maxed out on the dosage MGs. I took her off the medication and decided to managed the leakage issue myself. The side effects were potentially too harsh, for me to continue her on them. What was surprising that Lady seemingly knew what was happening. I prepared two beds..with plastic and absorbent towels. Plastic next to the ceramic tile and the hardwood floors in her beds. A layer of plastic and then the absorbent towels. Each bed was made the same. I put one in the bedroom with me, and the other in the foyer in the front living area, so she could watch the outside. In the kitchen breakfast nook, I made a pallet for Lady with an absorbent bath sheet. I folded it so that it would be very soft and her urine would quickly absorb it. Lady loved to watch me while I was preparing foods. Where ever I instructed Lady where to lay down, she would do it As long as she could see me, she was cool. I only had to tell her once where to lay down. At age 8, she knew to do exactly what I told her to do. She was so loving and devoted to me, she obeyed me completely. In the daytime she laid in her bed in the front foyer. I had to change her bedding generally twice a day. At night she laid in her bed, in the bedroom, with me. When I was in the kitchen she should lay on the towel in the kitchen nook. When I wanted to share a treat, I knew she wanted to taste what I was cooking, I would place it in her special plastic bowl and give it to her. Once she finished it, she would bring the bowl back to me. She would not whine or beg for anything. She would come and stand. She simply expected to taste what I was preparing. Once I forgot to give her a taste of what I was preparing, she got up and came into the kitchen and barked at me. I said, "Lady, what is the matter, do you want to taste this...do you want your taste!" Her little tail began wagging profusely. She was telling me that she wanted her taste. I didn't make that mistake again. Once Lady adjusted to the resting and sleeping routines, she never attempted to get on the couch, lay in the floor where there was carpeting. She only laid on the floors with ceramic tiles and hardwoods. I made a solution of 1 part clorox, to 3 parts water, to spray the areas where she slept or laid down. If I would forget to freshen or refresh her bedding after she had leaked on it, she would stand at her bedding and whine and bark. She would be telling me that her bedding was dirty. If it didn't smell fresh, she would not lay down l. I did her laundry three times a week. I make sure that I put lemon texize in her laundry. She loved the fresh lemony scent. What was so important about our relationship is she wanted to always please me. She was uncannily protective of me as well. Therefore, I made her life very comfortable. Lady transitioned at age 12. It has been about two years now, I still miss my buddy. I have another Doberman, a male, and I can tell you he is no Lady. Completely different personalities. Yes! He possess the traditional Doberman attributes, but, he isn't my beloved Lady.

[@rowdyrager-9403]

I got my first doberman. She is definitely a handful. But I love her

[@carlaspidell4667]

We experienced the same thing regarding our Dobie unintentional urinating. Went to numerous vet visits, they prescribed a medication to strengthen her muscles, thought maybe she was spayed too early, helped a little, took urine cultures, then our vet had us stick with urinary science diet, and we could no longer give her treats to train, her treat became ice cubes. We purchased a small countertop ice maker from Target. In all honesty, we were bummed, used treats to train, our Dobie was food motivated. But, sticking strictly with her food, nothing else, and her ice cubes helped immensely, there was the occasional leak, but far less than before. Unfortunately for us, our Dobie passed at 5 years old due to DCM. We currently have a one and a half year old Dobie who is super sweet, but like you,r family, she gets overly excited when she sees my granddaughter, who's 17, she wants to jump, nip a little, I'm correcting as soon as it happens, it's a work in progress on that issue. Good luck regarding the urinating issue.

[@jamesaguipo4328]

Hello, I am getting a Doberman puppy in 2 months time. And I am watching all your videos to learn more about how to take care of a Doberman puppy. Thanks a lot for making these videos solely about a Doberman. Won't look around anymore all info is here on this channel.

[@JustinAEgan]

When 'bed time' comes up. Always! take or allow your Dobermann (or make it a habit) to let her/him do a 5 - 10 minute run or walk perimeter check..through the back yard. it kinda sends a message...this is the '5' minute warning to urge a bladder break. I also say the same phrase - finish. Do not allow dog back into the house ...until you witness at least a #1 or even better, both a #1 and #2. The point of the ritual soon becomes a habit for the dog. Again, this becomes a prerequisite. "Last call"... I strongly suggest you actually do the walk around with your dog - but make sure to keep your distance, so the dog will focus on what you want it to do, You hit the big "3"... Verbal cue, Time cue and Routine of last walk around (surveillance cue). (as any Dobermann owner knows) - they hate getting wet, so - its best if you share the misery by actually walking with the dog - if the weather is rain, snow, etc. (I keep an umbrella by the door ...just in case)!

[@stormshadowctf]

Glad to see the honesty. Dobes are two hand fulls.

[@debratower171]

Hey guys you're doing great!!! I am a doberman for lifer and I am now reaching my 60th year... the only advice that I could give you is perhaps change her nappy spot after she has had all her drink and she is tired maybe if she is in a spot not so comfy she will be more alert and able to wake up and feel that she has to pee I know you are monitoring her water intake which is great that is the only thing that comes to my head that I would try with my dog I wish you all the best all my support and I will keep watching oh one other thing... when your dog reaches 3 years old she will be a completely different dog it is like something snaps in their mind and all the sudden they become the perfect Doberman😍

[@debratower171]

So yeah The Best Is Yet To Come

[@SlaughterHausD]

Friends got their 2.5 yr old Dobe spayed and she got incontinence too. Surprised the vet didn't give you the warning speech. It happens to females sometimes. I have left all 3 that I've had over time intact. Latest research is showing that holding off until Dobes are 3-5 years old before for males and females for a multitude of reasons.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you for sharing this with everyone, Don!

[@courtneyy3104]

Yup mine is spayed and on a incontinence med now.

[@cathyba5113]

Thank you very much for the video. It was very interesting

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thanks so much, Cathy! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ghowells5433]

Beautiful dog and you are doing a great job with her. It’s great seeing people taking the responsibility so seriously. We had a Dobie which we lost just before Xmas. In her last year she had the same problem with weeing on her bed which the vet fixed with a dosage propalin which worked but needed us to buy every month

[@DobermanPlanet]

So sorry for your loss! Glad to hear the Propalin worked, but no doubt that was an expensive necessity to purchase every month.

[@ghowells5433]

Through the vet very expensive but online it was a third of the price about £30 per month based on a 30kg Dobie. Hopefully won’t be needed, stunning dog though and it does get easier

[@santouche]

Our dobie, now almost one-year-old, peed in her sleep as a young puppy until she was about six months-old. It was very mysterious and frustrating, because we'd never had a dog that did that. Vet said it could be a plumbing problem, and to just try and mitigate it as best we could, keep an eye on it. Eventually, she just sort of grew out of it. This was before spaying, and she hasn't had an accident since. Best of luck!

[@DobeMom]

The incontinent issue is probably due to the spaying. I had two females who had been spayed before 1 year of age (at the suggestion of my vet and the breeder requirement) and they were both incontinent. They had some joint/bone issues too but I'll just focus on the incontinence. This will most likely be a lifelong issue for your pup. It was for both of mine. Your vet will probably suggest Proin which in my opinion is a cardiac death sentence for your dog. Avoid it if you can (but do your own research). The way I managed this was by covering all the furniture. Mattresses were covered with a waterproof mattress pad (washable). I made a sofa cover that had a waterproof backing so that when she leaked it wouldn't get on the sofa cushions. I eventually bought a sofa that had washable covers. One of my females had a major surgery at age 3 and was fecal incontinent for a period of time after that (not sure if it was related to the spay but...who knows? incontinence is incontinence right?). So happy that didn't last too long. I currently live with my fourth Doberman also a female. I was VERY lucky to find a breeder who did not require spaying or neutering. After 22 years of spay incontinence I decided not to spay this female. She's almost four. She's very healthy and she is NOT incontinent. Your pup is beautiful. Wish you the best.

[@M00s3r]

We were told the same thing about our bitch (that it was the spaying), it wasn't. It was colon cancer pressing on her bladder, we didn't find this out until it was far too late of course.

[@jennygInspired]

Proin was an absolute nightmare! She looked so anxious and was going to have a heart attack. Dog estrogen fixed it 100% THANK GOD, it sucked so much! Peeing in her sleep, peeing when excited, etc.

[@DobeMom]

@@jennygInspired Same here. She had rapid heart rate, rapid breathing, agitated after two doses. Took her off immediately. Didn’t try anything else. A couple of years worth of crazy leakage but then was able to quit my job and worked my schedule around taking her out every couple of hours to pee. I felt sooo responsible for her incontinence. I spayed her. It was my fault. Her vet admitted it was spay incontinence. She should have advised me. WTF.

[@gailscibelli9148]

@@DobeMom yup, can't depend on the vets to give you good info on spaying and neutering. You must research yourself. As far as I know Europeans DON'T spay or neuter their dogs at all.

[@DobeMom]

@@gailscibelli9148 If I have to do my own research why do I need a vet? Seriously. I’ve also read that Europeans don’t spay and neuter unless there’s a medical need. My current girl will never get spayed. NEVER.

[@karoltaylor3383]

We’ve had two Dobermans with the urine leakage problems during sleep. Both of them were spayed at six months. I have since learned that you shouldn’t spay them until two years and that is what we are doing with our current Doberman. Apparently the organs are better developed at two and therefore the ueretha not as easy to nick during surgery. The other dobies were treated with daily medication that really helped with the leakage. Good luck.

[@appaloosatexas3254]

Michael and Jackie, you did a great job for being first-time Doberman owners! Beautiful dog. It sounds Zeta is suffering from incontinence due to the lack of hormones from spaying. This is very common in some breeds and Dobermans are one of them. All female Dobermans I had suffered from it. It can occur weeks, month or years after spaying. My dogs took Incurin (a synthetic estrogen) or Proin (activates the sphincter muscle at the urethra to prevent leaking). One of my dogs took as little as one Proin every three days (you start on a different schedule and then taper down to whatever is effective) and another one had to take both meds daily to prevent issues (in her case it never got resolved a 100%). I suggest you discuss the best option for your case with your vet. Good luck!

[@judycraven2210]

Hey! Are you a fellow Massachusetts person? If so, where? Loved your video. She a beautiful dog! ❤

[@michelematter7996]

I had the same thing happen. My vet said it is very common in German breeds. Medication helped with it.

[@piccadillyline9765]

1 in 5 spayed dogs get this condition. After an exciting time outside or over stimulation they fall asleep. They have no control over the urination part when asleep. Try to build in a bit of time to wind down. I had this with my Dobie Zoe. Yep, it is a pain cleaning up afterwards, but it worked for me. Wind down time after a few weeks no problem. I also had her checked for a UTI and nothing. Also taking her out before sleep or nap, time to do what she needs to do helped. Good luck and preserver, she is a great dog.

[@bobbiec2365]

One of my dobes did the pee while sleeping. It ended up being the start of degenerative myelopathy. I was told is not uncommon in Dobermans even though it’s not super prevalent. Acupuncture and chiropractic adjustments helped manage symptoms until things were too far progressed. I also put a diaper on her. Not disposable but a washable one. Wasn’t perfect but it did help. Also if you haven’t already, you may want look into wobblers or any other neurological problems.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you for your suggestions, Bobbie! Acupuncture and chiropractic are things that no one else has suggested yet, as well as the diaper idea for naps. Your sharing is much appreciated!

[@firetog_]

My Dobie had incontinence after she got spade at 8 months. Apparently they shouldn’t be spade until age 2. Look in to a med called propalin. It’s for dog incontinence. I had her on it for her whole life and just had to increase the dosage every couple of years if she started to leak a little bit. Once on the meds I never had a major issue until she became geriatric, at which point it was full on incontinence. At night I had her she sleep on a canvas bed with a mesh center, so any pee would go through the mesh into a aluminum tray. Quick and easy to clean, just hose the bed and tray.

[@jenniferpearce2523]

I had a Doberman that was incontinence at the age of 2. We adopted her at the age of 2 so I don’t know when it started. Prion helped greatly at first. And then a little blue pill (can’t remember the med name) really worked. We always made sure she was laying on a pad just in case she leaked. She lived a great 13 years. Sounds like your pup may have incontinence.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Ah so sad to hear that. Thank you for sharing your insight, Jennifer!

[@rover4812]

I’ve had to Doberman’s in a row that I’ve been incontinent. The first one was a three year old rescue, so I don’t know when it started. My Doberman now is nine years old and she started around four years old. My first Doberman was on an old-school incontinence medication every day of her life until I lost her at16 years old. My Doberman now takes Incurin every day, but it works like a charm.

[@jennyalpaca7544]

My Doberman puppy took SO long to potty train. He was probably close to 6mths when he finally seemed to get the idea to go on the pads (house trained) but I realized it’s because he was so DISTRACTED playing he would forget to go potty or make it on time and would just go after jumping off the bed if he was playing on top. So after speaking with a trainer she said to take him after a bit of playtime even if he didn’t seem like he wanted to go and that finally helped! I wonder maybe if with Zeta she’s so sleepy or tired that she doesn’t go? So maybe wake her up in between naps? Like if she naps for 1 hour wake her up in 30mins?

[@DobermanPlanet]

Interesting suggestion, Jenny! Could be possible!

[@wolfprowler]

Our Lab had the peeing problem and it was actually a lack of water during the day. Happened a few times and realized she wasn't drinking enough. Apparently it happens with females a lot more than males.

[@DobermanPlanet]

That is interesting, Joshua! Thank you for sharing that lack of water could be the concern, not an excess of it. Interesting!

[@jaddenmp]

I got my Doberman yesterday and what was I thinking lol I thought I was ready but these dogs require a lot and the size of them. Cages etc. are not gonna be cheap haha but it was def worth it

[@scottlyttle5586]

Regarding the urination.. my mom's dog has what seems to be the same issue.. the vet identified the problem and prescribed a medication that prevents it from happening. I don't know the name of it, but can find out. My Mom reduces the medication level to try and get the minimum level of meds to keep the problem at bay.

[@kethdom9070]

Our Dobie girl developed hormone issues at the age of 6 yrs and was prescribed RX to counter-act the urination issues. Ask ur Vet to ck out your girl's hormone levels. Liked your video too. We just lost our 2nd Dobie on Jan 17th; he was 14 yrs, 3 months. Unfortunately he developed cancer thru-out his body and ultimately it was a mass in his lung (lung cancer) which finally got him. The next Dobie girl we get, we're going to try Ollie wet food which is all natural and chemical free. Good luck w/ your baby girl too. Katherine

[@courtneyy3104]

You've been through alot! You are great parents to her. Hang in there.

[@SY-jz7hk]

Our 1 year old is doing the same thing. We believe it's spay incontinence. Actually working with the vet this week to try medication to treat the issue. It's very common in female dogs.

[@amarindersharma7740]

Looks like a difficult Task.. with responsibility of family, 2 kids, heavy work schedule … my dream of a doberman seems to be in waiting now.

[@gailscibelli9148]

Yup, ALOT of work. Don't let anyone kid you.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Yes, they are a lot of work. Just like having a 3rd child, Amarinder! But very much worth it.

[@gailscibelli9148]

@@DobermanPlanet I use that child analogy all the time. Makes people really think about what they are undertaking. I knew what I was getting into and it was still hard. It was a period of adjustment for me. 😂 It's all good now! Most of the time. Lol Gotta have a sense of humor.

[@Jav202x]

Same here, I’m disappointed 😢

[@jimh6521]

I had the exact same thing happened with our young female Doberman, where she would just randomly lose her bladder in her sleep. It took the vets quite a while to figure it out, but it ended up being bladder cancer. I hope this isn’t the case for you, my recommendation is to have her thoroughly checked out,

[@brzoza007]

Regarding your #1 frustration.. We experienced similar behavior with our baby. It started when she was around 6yr old. We couldn’t figure it out. Eventually our baby was diagnosed with mast cell tumors. Long story short, could accidental wetting be associated with any health condition?? Who knows. All I can say, at some point we put her on certain diet involving products from Pet Wellbeing. It helped her a lot with wetting

[@brucehall8570]

I saw that you made a dog area with fencing, is crushed stone whats best for the ground, i ask because im about to make an area for my dobermans, they have torn up the grass and made alot of mudd lol, i have heard cedar chips work, what do you recommend

[@edengarden6811]

We are at 6 months now and our cute puppy is being a little monster now haha. Puberty hits hard. It can be so frustrated. I am a dogcoach but it is though. The pulling on the leash is crazy, working on it every single day. Same thing, when he knows people, he is doing crazy stuff 😅 like people coming over, it's time to he a crazy doggo

[@jennygInspired]

My vet insisted she get spayed at 6 months and i wanted around 9-10 months. He claimed they were completely booked up due to covid and six months was only available. She was having incontinence issues around a year and it sucked!!!! Peeing in her sleep, when excited, etc. Proin was prescribed and an absolute nightmare! She looked so anxious and was going to have a heart attack. Dog estrogen fixed it 100% THANK GOD, it sucked so much and finally fixed and without the side effects.

[@gailscibelli9148]

These vets are something else. Why don't they do what is best for the dog. Glad my vet never pushed neutering on my dog. He said wait til 4 or 5 years. But after doing alot of research I probably won't neuter AT ALL.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Oh no! That is so sad. Thank you for sharing your experience with Proin vs what worked long-term. Your insight is very helpful!

[@TheRealDilara]

My female doberman became reactive around 9 months old (she’s 11 months now), she’s super friendly to everyone off leash, but on leash she barks at dogs and people and anything else that moves. It came out of the sudden, we don’t really know what caused it. It’s not that bad anymore, as we’re training to distract her outside. Did anyone go through the same thing or know a solution or how we can train her to get rid of that behavior?

[@gailscibelli9148]

She is going through what they call THE FEAR PERIOD. It happens between 8-9 to 11 months. Very common. Go on Joel Beckman dog trainer channel. He talks about it often. You can look up his video on KZbin about it.

[@emmie65]

Almost the exact same situation as you with our female, became reactive a few months ago on leash and she’s nearly 1 now. Really difficult to deal with 😢

[@TheRealDilara]

@@emmie65 I’m sorry to hear that! How do you work around that issue ? Do you feel like it got any better or is it still as worse as when it started ?

[@TheRealDilara]

@@gailscibelli9148 thanks for the tip! I’ll check it out

[@dudenadog3493]

You’re Flipping hilarious, entertaining and 100%

[@ToddFather798]

I had a friend who's Doberman that had the same issue and turned out his dog was diabetic. They started treatment and the issue started to decrease over time and eventually stopped.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thanks for sharing this! Someone else in the comments said diabetes was the cause of their Doberman's urine incontinence while sleeping as well!

[@tamiboelter5491]

oh I can't wait!!

[@debrapampuch8967]

We have a doberman that is now 8 yrs of age... she also is spade and started with incontinence issues. Our vet indicated that spade females can become incontinent while sleeping due to the nerve and muscle control that could have been compromised during the spay operation. We tried numerous alternative herbal and plant based hormone supplements that unfortunately did not work. We then went to the Prion 74 , but be caution when using this medication it does have side effects. Our girl would become very anxious, panting, etc. I cut the pill in half and now give it once a day in the morning and all the side effects have subsided and the incontinence is now under control. (there has only be one or two accidents while on the medication but as you stated in your video allowing them to go out and air themselves after water consumption helps to tone down any accidents) Our girl is about 100 lbs and the half dose of the Prion seems to do the trick. I hope you find this helpful and if you decide to use this medication keep an eye out for any side effects.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you for your suggestion, Debra! Learning from other's experiences is very helpful. We appreciate that you took the time to share!

[@twistedpatriot]

As some have said it is incontinence. Sometimes spaying too early... or spaying at all can cause this. I have a 1 year red female doberman right now. I am waiting until after her second heat (coming any time now) to spay her.. probably wait till about 18 months. She still could become incontinent but less of a chance I guess.. there is medication that really works well to mitigate it. Beautiful doberman guys..

[@pierreduy8838]

OMG Zeta is adorable and so gorgioso! Never spay before 24 months, or you risk incontinence issues. Ideally, just have the tubes tied. No reason for radical hysterectomy!

[@daveherskowitz3884]

My male 3yr old has an issue called reflex dyssynergia Basically he has flare ups that happen randomly where his urethra goes through spasms and he strains to pee and sometimes has accidents in the house as a result too. I treat it with Prazosin, but he still has the random flare ups sometimes. Not sure it sounds like this is what Zeta has, but may be worth looking into? Anyone else’s Doberman have a condition like mine?

[@DobermanPlanet]

That is interesting to hear, Dave! It could be what Zeta has and Michael and Jackie will likely be looking into that diagnosis. Thank you for your insight!

[@theirishninja8199]

I’m a first time dobermans Owner One this I will say is DONT encourage stupid crying and noise for attention once they learn to manipulate with noise you will have trouble 😂👌🙏💯☘️also don’t spade your dogs because the vet says so At least let them mature abit before playing god 👌🙏💯☘️I’d deffo say unnecessary spading is a big part of dog problems today My girls 10 going on 11 this year still think she’s a puppy to a degree as fit as a fiddle Never even considered spading her Because it would have played with her natural personality 👌🙏💯☘️never had a litter and too late now which I’m abit pissed about as she is truly amazing and I would have loved to psss her individual genetics on for the best of the doberman breed 👌🙏💯☘️big up DOBERMAN the best breed on earth

[@Nancy-yf6mw]

Urinating while asleep I found with one of my Dobie’s was affiliated with their Dog Food (Science Diet). A nephew had the same issue with his Siberian Husky . He Changed dry foods and corrected the problem. I’m not saying Science Diet is bad food....it’s just to Rich for some. I’ve used Science Diet with other dogs and had no problems. So maybe try that. We had gone thru 2 couches before changing foods. Good Luck !!!

[@christineford9287]

Yes my 2 year old doberman peas in her sleep also ...shes like going through the change at two instead od like us in our 40's and 50's. I am giving her through my vet a pill once every 12 hrs called PROIN. VANTASTIC RESULTS. NO MORE PEA IN BED OR ANYWHERE ELSE.. BUT SEE SLEEPS WITH ME so if she gets off the bed we go outside immediately...she may be on this pill for life. ...HOPE THIS HELPS

[@michaelgrogan3224]

WOW.....I'm at that crossroads now with spaying my 21 month old Euro female. My breeder recommended waiting until at least 2 heats. I did. Now, after this potential problem, I'm a little worried. My last female 20 years ago never had this problem so I'm curious.....what appears to be the percentage of Dobes that get this malady after spaying? My girl was easy to house train and never has a problem...unless she gets sick. She has a great bladder for long durations but I can't imagine having to clean pee up every morning...especially since she likes to sleep in bed with us!

[@rickmeisch643]

I have a 8 mo old who also jumps up on me too much and am hoping it is better as she gets older. I see mine is like your dog in that she likes to have you hold her bone while she chews it away and that then become a very quick job. My Dobie a female is so quick at peeing when she wants that it took me 4 mos. To see her fast signs for her need. I block off the carpet rooms with boxes that are two ft high and have had great success for those areas which leaves tile floors easy to clean up if I happen to miss her cues. If a job is a mistake I show her the clean up towel and she is quick to agnowledge the mistake along with low key words and good words for encouragement for the outside jobs she will do.

[@DobermanPlanet]

So glad you've found a way to cope with the quick bladder of your female, Rick! Cleaning up the mess can be such a hassle - especially on carpet.

[@loriw2661]

Zeta is beautiful!🐾❤️🐾

[@tinaosullivan6451]

2 dobermans at the same time is a very busy schedule I know, but you got it I'm sure hang in there❤

[@cindykusk4102]

The leakage while sleeping is very common after dogs get fixed. The vet says it has something to do with hormones, low estrogen I believe. The vet put our Dobie on Stilbestrol, started with 1 a week, still leaked abit, now on 2 pills a week, one on Monday, one on Thursday, problem fixed. Easy peasy. We do bloodwork once a year to make sure she's good go on the pills.

[@laurent1486]

I am having the same issue with my Dobby in her sleep. All on the couch, the floor the mat wherevershe's falls asleep. My husband is upset, and I tell him she doesn't realize. The vet gave us bladder support chewables but hasn't really helped. We sent her urine out for tests and waiting for results. She is 3 yrs old

[@tracyhoudashelt3693]

I adopted a 4yr old spayed female with this issue. She is on Proin for urinary incontinence.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you for sharing that, Tracy! Your insight it much appreciated!

[@belindaguzman450]

My male Doberman has been growling at my 5 year old but only when my son goes to pet him not all the time tho he gets plenty or exercise stimulation twice a day he’s certainly very protective toward my son if we’re at the park and I’m sort of confused on why he’s doing this only thing I can’t think of is pack order in our home ived watched ur videos on that he’s certainly last to come in the house and he waits and stays while we go in he waits for his food until I say that he can eat. This is breaking my heart

[@AprilCunningham]

Did you do the ear taping yourself?

[@Kamino5]

hey, I dont have a Doberman ( cause im under 18 and my parents dont want dogs) but for future, what you can recomend me what I need to do, to be for good owner of Doberman ( if I have some mistakes in my english, Im sorry Im not from english speakin country), thanks for ur recomends ))

[@lesliemason6016]

We got ours at 2.5yrs old. But leaving him homecor pinned up with his bed or without lead him to eating shoes,shoe string, bedding, and baseboards on the house. So we must make sure he EATS and has peed before even leaving for 30min. Now he can be left anywhere and not eat anything. He was very shutdown when trying to dissaplin or grab his collar to get to move out of the way. Anything "new" that isnt something we do at least 5 times in a row he will fight the activity. He doesnt like to eat out of his bowl either so he will touch his nose to the kibble and whine at me. I have to hand feed or put on the bed to eat. Not sure why. I had a prb of bed wetting with my german pincher where she was a baby but i stopped after 2 weeks. She had tapeworms everywhere and walking pneumonia. Once it was gone she was fine. So maybe tapeworm pill her (doesnt hurt them if they DONT show up in tests so better safe than sorry). They have diapers you can put on her before her nap time if not found. An internal ultra sound can show the urethra valve not completely shutting off so when it reaches a certain level she wil just drain. I have kidney disease and stones and have heard every story sitting in the waiting room. This requires to put a camera up inside whle they sleep and it wil show the duct open or close or stay open. It's a very quick surgery and very common in females accross ALL MAMALS. It has something to do with the formation of urethra in utero. That sounds like the prob. But could be the duct to the ureter or kidney or all 3. Strengthen the pelvic wall with squats is what humans can do to help. But always requires a surgery because it will get WORSE as she ages. Please dm me on insta if you need more info @ leslieslooks

[@KiethOfficial]

love from Philippines

[@jamesfowler7962]

Your vet should prescribe PROIN 50 mg, my vet prescribed for my female dobie after being spade ,it's a daily med but no more accidents ,it's a miracle

[@catherinemarineaubrunet5618]

My doberman to pee while she sleep but only when she is super tired she is two years old now and it still happen when we do more exercices then normal

[@DobermanPlanet]

Someone else said the "overly tired" thing as well. Worth thinking about!

[@starrgirrl3]

I had a hound mix that had that urinary issue. I found it happened when she drank a ton of water after hard play. It did worsen when she got older and she had to wear doggie undies. I think she had poor bladder control. Just a fluke thing. I know it can happen with people too.

[@Spiritdove64]

think about how all this works on human children dont forget to praise good behavior. Im 64 and over the years owning a lot of dogs. I learned that you always think what they will do not what they wont do and I knew the fence right off was not going to work.

[@johnmessina3716]

Proin or incurin for incontinence.

[@lostaroll]

We have had several female Dobies and Proin has hoped most of them.

[@vleavy]

Hi. Thanks for the video. Spot on! Regarding her incontinence, this is an issue after spaying for some breeds, but don’t be distraught. I’ve had many. The one that had the biggest issue with this was one of the best Dobermans I’ve ever had. We simply put a diaper on her in the house. I know it sounds like OH NO, but your girl will feel so much better when she doesn’t think she’s disappointing you all the time. It’s not her fault. If she could fix it, she would. She can’t. But, you can make life easier for both of you by using a diaper. My girl was a very svelte, tall girl with very long legs and tiny butt. We found that women’s Depends size small worked better than bitches britches one other dog diapers, because of her length. It only took a day for her to adjust. She would literally turn around at get into position to get her “diapie” on. That was the command. Diapie :) I’ve had Dobermans since the 70’s. Yeah I’m old. I can’t imagine having any other breed. The incontinence issue is just something that goes along with having a spayed female. Not all, but they are more prone to it than other breeds of dogs. I’ve had both males and females, currently have both. Females are just a tad easier, in my opinion. I madly love both! Males can have health issues when neutered, but that’s a whole different topic and one you can research if you ever get a male. UC Davis has a labyrinth of research information on their website with a search tool. Good luck! Give the diaper only when inside a try. Our female wore one inside starting at age 3 (when she was spayed) She lived a happy active life for 13 years.

[@leoandrews1696]

Make it a habit to -Check your boundaries on a weekly basis. Never assume that your oh so expensive fence is dog proof. - Always praise good behaviour, especially outside of ' training. ' ( incidentally, this also works for cats, birds, children, spouses, neighbours, infact anything with a heartbeat. ) - Never ignore peeing in the house, especially when your dog is relaxed/asleep. This is a completely different problem from housetraining. Contact your vet. There are lots of different drugs to help with incontinence and if they brush it aside - find a different vet. We use Propalin, which is Phenylpropanolamine Hydrochloride 50mg/ml, and have been using it for years, with the appropriate vet testing to ensure that she remains healthy. - accept that training will be a life long process. Everyone wants an intelligent dog, until they live with one and then, all of a sudden it becomes a problem when the dog uses said intelligence to out wit the humans in their life. Good luck.

[@starlakelsey2782]

My female had this issue when she turned 5. If I had known then what i know now I wouldn't have spayed her for at least several years not the one heat cycle she went through. She was on low dose of Proin from age 5 until we lost her last year at 10 1/2. First she leaked slightly then it was when she slept. She couldn't help it. I hope that helps and I hope other female dobe owners reconsider spaying at a young age. My vet even tried to avoid it by letting her have one heat. My new female will not be spayed. Ever. After talking to more than just one breeder that both have been at it for decades...none of their females ever had this problem. None of their females developed cancer from not being spayed either. I'll just keep her away from in tact males and put her in a Suiticle when she is in heat. Twice a year is no biggie compared to being on a med the rest of her life. A medicine that we really do not know what other side affects could be caused.

[@rebeccastokes4403]

My Bella has the same problem, she only pees when she is sleeping. It is from her getting fixed. Nothing that can be done for it. I put diapers on her (which don't stay on very well with her tail) waterproof the mattress and give her incontinence bladder control which helps also. Can't get mad she can't help it as as mine. Good luck

[@stormshadowctf]

My biggest mistake was not believing that ecollars were ethical. They are a definite plus to have for this breed. Dobes are so fast, they'll get into trouble before you can react.

[@gailscibelli9148]

Prong collars to. Used properly a life saver. Literally. Lol. I couldn't afford at 70 years old to have my big male Dobie knock me to the ground. Wouldn't be good.

[@stormshadowctf]

@@gailscibelli9148 agreed

[@atomicbrothers8600]

By the time all is said and done I spent probably $10,000 making my backyard capable of containing my crazy girl😂😂😂. 6ft chain link that she loved to dig out if. Finally had to get the invisible fence installed along the bottom so she wouldn’t stand there long enough to dig out🤷🏼‍♂️. Gotta love ‘em!!!

[@gailscibelli9148]

Invisible fence is a WONDER!!!

[@DobermanPlanet]

Oh man! You certainly had to shell out some money for her. They are too smart!

[@jennygInspired]

Honestly. Get estrogen--it fixed it 100% did 2 tabs for a month, then decreased to 1.5 tabs for a couple weeks and stable on 1 tab. I tried 1/2 tab and it was insufficient. I had the same exact issue.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you for suggesting this! One other said that it helped their dog as well.

[@dalestrubberg6087]

Have your vet check for hormone deficiency. Had a Dog do the same as yours leaking pee . After being spade. Our vet was a old schooled gentleman. He ran a test and gave us some little pills had to give them for rest of her life . After taking them she never had the problem again. We don't allow our dogs on the furniture because of situations like this. Good luck Hopefully this helps.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thanks for your thoughts, Dale! So glad you found what worked for your Doberman. Do you remember the name of the pills she took?

[@alpereira7112]

My 1st Doberman was a female who developed the exact same medical condition.

[@Two_Buck]

Gorgeous. You are doing a great job.

[@staciarupp522]

I've had the peeing thing happen with both my girls for years. And all you can do is frequent potty, I take mine every 40-45 minutes. And at night monitor the water intake otherwise you'll definitely have alot of wet stuff.

[@playfultree4572]

I definitely went overboard with the amount of toys my puppy has as well. So far she's been happy with a rope toy and a chicken tied to a string and leaves the other toys in the abyss. Yet, she's over here destroying her bed while I'm secretly hoping she starts destroying her toys so i can make some more room.

[@Spiritdove64]

Pumpkin seed oil stopped me from going at night.. wonder if it help a dog I know they can take it I think Female dogs who pee in their sleep are usually spayed females, ages 2 years and up. It happens due to a lack of estrogen, wonder if its hormones. I know it was before she was spayed of course they do have doggie diapers if nothing can be done. My female had to have them when she was 13 at the end of her life due to incontinence . Easier to change a diaper once a night than having to shampoo the couch

[@johnsun8642]

.. my cat made a lot of noise at night he was miauwing so i woke up many times then i yelled he be guiet and then he was quit.. then after some time i heard him again and i thought i am going to walk over and see.. so i walked there where he was and he was sleeping and miauwing in his sleep.. so then i knew he was dreaming and he was miauwing in his dream.. and i felt sorry for yelling at him be quit when he was dream miauwing.. so i gave him many kisses that night.. i think your dog is also dreaming in their dreams they replay their memories and possibly when she does that she is dreaming about being outside and in that dream she takes a pie.. anyways i have many cats the rest of my cats only make a lot of noise when they are awake but they are awake often at nights so to get sleep i sleep when they sleep.. and also they create a daily mess yes they go to the toilet on the floor almost daily i have cleaned up their pie and shit for many many years but i love them so much that its worth it..

[@benz310.]

I had peeing issues with my Doberman as well. Limiting water consumption and not leaving the water bowl around the house helped. In my house we have set times for water. Breakfast/ with water bowl out/limited. Lunch with water bowl out/limited. 6pm Dinner with water bowl out/limited. Last walk outside 8:30pm. Some people may not like that but in the wild water is scarce and food as well. Giving a dog a buffet removes the animal from its natural instinct. Dog perspective: why should I do anything if I know my water is out and food is given freely. Make that girl work for her food. 🥂. If it’s really hot outside or he is exercising a lot that day I give him more water. Other than that nothing else. I don’t give my dog water till full either because one thing I learned is a dog can eat and drink past fullness. Limiting his water worked beautifully. I also dont get my dog excited on first sight of me or when I arrive from work neither does my wife. I don’t even say anything. Good luck. 🥂 cheers.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you for sharing your circumstance and recommendations, Ben!!

[@lincolnmark8656]

My last female Doberman also wet herself while sleeping. She did it her whole life. And we could never figure out why. We started putting sheets on the couch with pee pads under them. Now my new female puppy doesn’t do that but she does pee when I come home and she gets real excited. She is 11 months now.

[@DobermanPlanet]

It is a puzzle to figure out for sure. Doesn't seem like there is an easy solution, but a lot of people have left great suggestions!

[@lauradorr6558]

Smart as hell

[@marietheresesundvold2201]

Thanks for shearing your mistakes ❤ Understand your frustation! I have a male that pees inside. Wake us up early,sleep beside us. Need to be in one room, not the hole house, to not pee,when we leave the house.

[@MrSa458]

I don't have a Doberman yet,but I want one I do plan to get one So anyways God bless everyone who comes across this comment 🙌🏾🕊✝️🔥

[@gailscibelli9148]

Do your research. Dobermans are a handful.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you, Marcus! Maybe someday you'll be able to own a Doberman. They are a lot of work, but also a lot of reward!

[@MrSa458]

@Doberman Planet okay brother I can't wait to get a Doberman 🦮

[@strausd02]

Yes! You are right. They are strong willed and difficult. However, once they bond with you, and see you as "Top Dog" the leader of the pack, they will follow your lead. It is your job, to train them properly. They are highly intelligent and motivated and easily to train. They love to please. Treat them well.. The are loving and highly stimulated. They need lots exercising and interacting. They will return that love, by caring and protecting you. They will have your back....They can read situations of danger...If they think that you are in danger, they will let you know. They will position themselves between you and the danger...

[@tiffanyhurst143]

mine sleep pees too but not all the time keep me posted

[@ShadowGunner1]

My puppy schooled me. She would bark or scratch at the door for me to take her out. Made training easy. I have a mastiff. She has a pee problem and was on proin, but it isn't working anymore. Looking for an alternative. Any ideas, anyone?

[@DobermanPlanet]

There were a lot of great suggestions in these comments, if you want to take the time to read them. Dave (in another comment) suggested Zeta's issue could be "reflex dyssynergia. Basically he has flare ups that happen randomly where his urethra goes through spasms and he strains to pee and sometimes has accidents in the house as a result too. I treat it with Prazosin, but he still has the random flare ups sometimes." Might be worth looking into for your Mastiff as well!

[@GeoffreyRobinson-c3f]

The peeing = urinary continence is a known problem after spaying too young. Happened my first bitch. Luckily there is an easy fix. Medicate with an estrogen. The medication I gave was stiboestrol. A bigger dose initially, titrating down to lowest effective dose. Had to be continued life long (12 years for Faye), worked a treat.

[@lindseyhamilton1002]

My female Doberman had incontinence because i spayed her before 2 years old. She started her peeing at 4 years and continued until she died at 9yr. I had her on Pronin /$70 a month for 5 years!! Very costly!

[@matthewjay660]

Kisses and cuddles to Zeta Dobie. 💋👋🏻

[@catherineprice6275]

Have you tried teaching her to go wee on command? Then when you think she is in a deep sleep wake her up and tell her to go wee. Might grow out of it too 😊

[@ishouldbesleeping1354]

My 8 month old Dalmatian, ate a light 💡 Bulb today. 🤦‍♀️

[@alexbaker8548]

It’s because of getting her fixed, it doesn’t happen in all dogs but in some dogs they lose control of their bladder and they don’t feel themselves pee it’s not anything you can fix unless you want to put her in diapers.

[@victoriamaclean4218]

She has spay incontinence!! It requires an ongoing medication. The valva opens while sleeping. It shouldn't be a source of frustration!!! It's a medical condition. It happened to mine before spaying. After spaying it got worse. If your vet doesn't know what med to give, find a new one. We dealt with it for 13 years. To use this as a frustration point is very upsetting. Sweet girl has ZERO knowledge it's happening. Please... please get another opinion. 🙏

[@gailscibelli9148]

People really need to research the spaying and neutering of your dog, IF you chose to do so. There can be quite a number of adverse effects from spaying and neutering too young.

[@hannahandrainn]

I agree. 8 months was way too young. Also, and it may upset people, but she needs to be a little more lean 😳 Maybe look into raw feeding as raw fed dogs do not consume so much water. Get bloods done to rule out diabetes and thyroid.

[@victoriaamon7402]

DIABETES CHECK?? I had a Doberman with the same problem. I went through numerous vets before a coworker (who was a vet took my dog for the weekend and took all the records and said BAM BAM needle in a hay stack he had diabetes. We got on human insulin and viola all the peepee sleeping went away immediately. Just saying it’s worth the test!

[@DobermanPlanet]

That is interesting, Victoria! Thank you for sharing that that is what you discovered was wrong. So glad the insulin fixed the problem!

[@vanessafinney1809]

I had that same problem due to me spaying my girl Dobie too early... I started giving her isoflavones once a day and she stopped that.. as her hormones and lady parties weren't fully developed. So I no longer spay my girls until after their 2nd heat cycle ..

[@DobermanPlanet]

Great tips, Vanessa! Thank you for sharing part of your story!