FIRST TIME HEARING TAEMIN - Guilty

[@Doinita.]

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[@Irene-cb3wx]

Saw someone say "it's likeTaemin is singing the part of the abuser and dancing the part of the abused and I can't believe how hauntingly beautiful it is " Very interesting if this holds up..

[@h.vgavriel5838]

I'm obsessed with this song. I have always love Taemin solo songs, specially Advice, but Guilty ? Oh man, this song hit me hard ! Right in the heart .

[@ELLA456-j3k]

Same here like this song hits different ❤❤❤

[@kimberlimays533]

Me too I love it

[@bluerains2906]

당신의 리뷰는 멋지고 재밌어요❤ 리듬을 잘 이해하는 몸짓과 표정이 음악의 흥을 더욱 느끼게 합니다

[@arle_91]

Taemin is the king of soloists, we really had to wait for him to come back to witness real music and art. I would give an award to this song as everything... mv, vocals, dance. He is the best soloist ever. mark my words. react to his album pls

[@bea_hae_tae9392]

Taemin has talked about the literature that inspired this concept: Erotism: Death and Sensuality by Georges Bataille and Demian by Hermann Hesse. Love that Taemin decided to do things his own way with his own colors. I don't see anyone else doing this concept, or even the way in which he does it. Just stunning! Great reaction KING-TPOP-ART

[@kaienefarias]

TAEMIN IS PURE ART. PERIOD

[@mochawilliams5996]

Actor Lee Taemin is back! King of TaePop ❤

[@harriettholmes539]

This is true art.

[@teeluh1]

The director of the MV posted a picture of taemin in the crown and said abraxas, so i am guessing it is meant to mimic the feathers on abraxas. Great reaction!

[@aapjm]

im an army for 8 years i love them for life but Guilty is the song of the year. periodt

[@valoriec]

You need to watch the trailer for this MV because it has different scenes, and at the end of the video here where he's alone, in the trailer he's snatched away and it seems he's reprogrammed or something. The trailer is almost an epilogue and a prequel at the same time. It's involved, lol. Taemin is just a master at his art.

[@caleec]

Jimin and Taemin are friends. They are similar in many ways. Both incredible dancers, true artists, angelic voices and kind hearted. BTS is the only group i ever watch but i knew taemin because of Jimin and now i’m so into this song and i wish they’d do the dance challenge together.

[@V4l3g0]

Thanks for check him out, he is amazing and sometimes I feel he should be more recognised.

[@JoSedunary]

Taemin is such a talent... and one of the nicest humans on the planet along with it... He was recently on Suchwita with Yoongi QoFy... it was a great episode... Thank you for another awesome reaction...

[@ishort0967]

☺️‼️

[@CTKApoBangpo]

Loved this episode, with Jimin dropping by. Their friendship is so wholesome. I wish we would get a collab.

[@JoSedunary]

@@CTKApoBangpo I know right ? Taemin actually reminds me a lot of Taeyang (BB).. so I'm hoping one day Jimin will get to do a collab with Taemin also... we may have to wait a while longer though....

[@mialai-carlson4169]

Thank You for checking out Taemin's recent comeback! FYI Taemin dropped a Dingo Killing Voice recently, the vocal ad libs for Guilty were immaculate, just as good or better LIVE then the soundtrack. Please check out his Killing Voice if you can, you will love it!

[@llllIIIIIIIIlllll]

태민은 사랑이지.

[@ninawilliams5676]

Subbed, liked and hit that bell for the God of kpop taemin. Thank you I u so much for this great reaction.

[@ishort0967]

Thank you for your support and appreciation ☺️‼️

[@rurisam6590]

Taemin always release masterpiece ❤

[@marcelacaceres4397]

Taemin es arte

[@sofiaVargas-o3i]

King Taemin 👑 , Ace kpop!!!

[@ethelralte1024]

Taemin king of K-pop is back ❤

[@agatho_loves_music]

You caught Taemin's actual message so many times in spite of mistranslated lyrics. Amazing! Check out my properly researched info packed GUILTY explainer and you'll understand what I mean!

[@faireefairee]

Thank you. That was a good piece of detective work, and super mind-blowing.

[@amandag1337]

The album is great if you get a chance to listen!

[@yasminebecha1987]

The hole album is insane🔥

[@kathyk3918]

Love this song!!!

[@ishort0967]

☺️‼️

[@genevievehiguera6162]

New album from Taemin 🔥 Be sure to check out is LIVE PERFORMANCE of " Rizzness". One of the best live performances by anyone ever! No Cap! 😱😱😱🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💙💙💙

[@marinal.]

Hi, i am back. Good reaction, ty. So glad u checked this one out. Good song. On 1st listen I felt strongly like crying. The tears were held in though the whole song though. But at the end i had to wipe my eyes. I just want to hug Taemin. On my 2nd listen i read the lyrics. And after i wondered was my reaction all in my head. There are layers here upon layers. Loved the fits and makeup. Some of the subject matter was an issue for me. I know Taemin had lots of mental health issues in the military. Based on the teasers I thought he would talk about it. And it looks like he does in his own way. I really want to hear his views on this song and album. I watched Suchwita ep. w. Taemin right after this. Glad he is back giving us headaches, lol. Perfect vocals in my opinion. The feathered headband is a Native American thing for me. I feel it has an important significance. The lyrics had nothing to do with the images in the MV. I think this is way over my head and i will watch some reactions to see what others think of Taemin's msg here. Feels based on imagery. Great choreo. The dance practice was good too. =0p Borahae. -NY USA 2019 Army💟 Loved that long skirt. He looked so good, dang. I also was getting examination. After a few reactions i am thinking he is showing military and psych mental health area. Like a mix of places. I was thinking were ppl saying he was guilty of making them feel attracted to him? Does he feel guilty about something? Lots of thoughts going through my head. I am so glad u watched the teasers. The more i watch the more i think that he is combining the military facility with a mental health facility. And we know he suffered in the military and asked for a transfer. So it seems he is portraying his struggles here. @ireneserrano4570 said on 10/30/23 I'm still confused about the exact meaning, but again, there could be different interpretations as with his other songs. But from the visuals i get the feeling it refers to abuse, it can be at so many levels. It can have psychological and physical or both, you can suffer it under your own family, friends, at school, at work, in love relationships... Then who is the perpetrator? many times you can be trapped by those people, even in a group or the society, you don't even realise but by the time you realise you have been actually abused THEY are gone, who can you blame exactly? I have gone through my own dose of abuse, and after years you realise but you end up blaming yourself too, as if you hadn't known better but then you allowed it...😢 Also the images of classroom and rooms with beds, and a kid surrounded by a group...Taemin is watching him from the door as if he was watching himself as a kid... also at the end those kids in school uniforms, all spread around, one grabbing the legs of an adult that grabs his leg, bleeding... South Korea also has buIIying as endemic.. at schools (kids also teachers committing suicide as they can't either find understanding or help by their surroundings, on the contrary they are treated as the outcast and weirdos) also at the workplace, in the Military, in university... Their social rules, their stratification and obsession with seniority, comparing their ages, wealth, possessions, their marks, everything... the social pressure on kids and in general on everyone to be better, the most xx the most xx...). The crazy mix of their traditional values and the contrast to the monstruos capitalism that devours all traditional values... traditional collectivism versus wild individualism... @pamela-623 said on 10/30/23 this is an amazing comeback, so artsy so taemin, shawols had lots of interesting theories, my favorite being that this is an interpretation of the struggles in military enlistment, young men being taken, examined and given a gun, i find it so fascinating @princesssunshine79 said on 10/31/23 From what I have picked up here and there, I THINK, don't quote me, the song is about training at an extremely young age in a very exploitive industry, his horrible experience while doing his military service, and his own mental health. Again, I am not positive about any of this. But, for Taemin, it makes a lot of sense. Especially the last two bits because his 2 years away was a nightmare that really messed with his mental health and depression. I hope this helps a wee bit. 😁 @sumim2192 said on 11/1/23 Just a note, In July (I think), Taemin updated his Instagram bio with a famous quote from Hermann Hesse's famous novel Demian “The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas.” I think his outfit with the feather hat represents the god Abraxas. @prisonbreakd said on 10/31/23 The way he does dark concepts is so amazing to me. I think if you think about how guilt feels, the video/song represents it perfectly. The way he moves through the corridors and outside, and the choreography feels like he is out of control, and being suffocated by the situation, he is overwhelmed and struggling to understand up from down, invisible and visible hands push him around. You can't help but feel sad or sorry for him, despite him singing that he's done something horrible. And I think it's because, unlike in "Want", he is not proud or embracing it here; his pain, struggle and guilt are obvious. It's haunting. To me, the overall story of the video was that love (and life) is not always cutesy and sweet; it can come with a dark side, conflicting feelings, being intense and too much. You can do things you regret, and it can spin out of control, you can be aware of doing something wrong and not know how to stop, you can want things that are not good for you or someone that you care about. You can hurt people and be aware of what you are doing but not know how to do it better. You can love the wrong people, make mistakes and feel... well, guilty. It's just a very painful side of human experience that we don't like to look at because guilt and shame go together and make us very uneasy. @pandakholin said on 10/31/23 9:55 Yep. Rian, Simeez, Noze and Rozalin. They’ve been Taemin’s backup dancers since Criminal. Also here is Suzy Hong and Kim Haeun. Only the best of the best for Taemin. @lunemaline1338 said on 10/31/23 Taemin has spoken before how he regrets debuting so young in a very exploitative industry, that mixed with how hard his military enlistment period was for his mental health I see this being about him kinda losing his innocence and being thrown into violence. the shot of him looking at one of the dancers that kinda looks like a younger version of him having fun with everyone else to him being in this medical room and being moved like a puppet, forced to hold a gun and being stripped of his individuality by wearing this school uniform. That’s what I love about Taemin’s music and MV’s it starts to make you think and theorize, he’s super creative. @schuylernefcy3466 said on 10/31/23 Other note, It's like Taemin is singing the part of the abuser and dancing the part of the abused and I can't believe how hauntingly beautiful it is. @bea_hae_tae9392 said on 11/3/23 Taemin has talked about the literature that inspired this concept: Erotism: Death and Sensuality by Georges Bataille and Demian by Hermann Hesse. Love that Taemin decided to do things his own way with his own colors. I don't see anyone else doing this concept, or even the way in which he does it. Just stunning! Great reaction, thanks for giving so much love to his work.

[@ishort0967]

Wow! 🔥. Great performance …great reaction ☺️❤️‼️

[@shadow_sigyn]

Loved your reaction! The feather headpiece represents Abraxas from 'Demian' by Hermann Hesse. (spelling mistake)

[@Keke88]

It truly was spectacular.

[@marinal.]

@thespianoge said on 11/5/23 Some initial bullet points: I definitely think The Rizzness is a diss track to the industry. My interpretation of Blue is that it’s about/for Shawols. The pearl-aqua ocean of fan lights. Taemin’s variety is huge and I highly recommend going through his discography. He’s a stunning, creative, chameleon like soloist and I love his soft, soothing voice that can grow to an impressive belt. It could be interesting to go though his discography in order to see his growth, but ultimately I’d recommend Never Gonna Dance Again Act I and II (both have some of my very favorite songs and I honestly can’t pick between the two…) I’m not the hugest fan of his debut Ace based mainly on my personal taste. He’s incredibly involved in picking the songs, though isn’t a songwriter himself as a rule. Taemin has specifically said that this is the beginning of his “Act II” in his career and basically life in general from what he’s said. And now…you wanted to read a think piece on the MV. Boy, do I have one for you. Pardon the RIDICULOUSLY long essay. I have been meticulously and obsessively dissecting this video since it came out. cracks knuckles I have three main theories. I’ll talk about this later, but he experienced a traumatic military service and it could be speaking to that. It could also speak to being taken advantage of by the industry as a child, especially. And as a queer person who kind of finds queerness in everything, I felt gay conversion camp vibes from the time I saw the first trailer. There's also the book Erotism by Georges Bataille that the director recommend he read in preparation for this comeback. It’s about the intersections of sexuality, religion, death, the sacred and the profane and taboo. (Which has ironically basically been his brand from the beginning, more or less.) There’s also the quote by Herman Hesse that he's mentioned in interviews even before enlistment from the book Demian. "The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas." People think that the feather crown is a nod to Abraxys, which is supposed to be a heretic god, both God and Satan, without a binary. I found the lyrics somewhat at odds with the MV, but maybe to condense the most basic thesis is wrestling within oneself with their guilt, warranted or not, until one finds their way to set themselves free. They evolve like the bird fights out of the egg to destroy their prior world to find their inner god, both good and bad, the radiant and the taboo, but it’s on their own terms, like in Demian. For the queer theory: At the beginning he's wearing Homme Girls boxers (he's actually worn them before and they're HEAVILY featured in his album photo book) from the beginning. It could mean some sort of secret queerness kept under wraps. Then he graduates to a denim skirt but with a cross necklace, perhaps still trying to convince himself that he could return to the comfort of conformity, and finally, a skintight floral "feminine" look. Coming into his own personal expression, claiming it after the flaming arrow hits the target. To go further down the rabbit hole, my queer headcannon saw the brief scene featuring two young people in an intimate moment in a room off the hallway, walking in on something forbidden, which he quickly left at 21 seconds. The person on the left is the person in the long sleeves featured at the 36 second mark. Some people read it as young Taemin, with old Taemin looking at himself as a child, which totally makes sense. Except when I first saw it, I read it as an androgynous girl and was kind of confused about her significance. So I could be completely wrong but I read some queerness into that brief scene as well. Or it’s just Taemin looking in on his younger self in early sexual experimentation. In the original trailer, there were a bunch of kids playing in the creek. Some were male and some female, but they were indistinguishable from each other. I even didn't clock it until someone else mentioned it. But once they were in their uniforms, there was a clear delineation where the girls were now wearing skirts, enforcing the gender roles they were previously unconcerned about. I'll also mention a content warning for racy talk. There's also a brief moment in the scene in the bunks with someone holds the head of someone with a baseball cap in front of their fully clothed groin. In the split second moment at 1:45, Taemin’s hand is seen lifting up the chin of someone. They have an Adam’s apple. Finally, the most obvious line that people have latched onto is “loving is a crime.” With the military theory, he ended up having to leave the military proper and go into the public service sector for the rest of the time due to extreme anxiety and depression. There's been documentation of idols (G-Dragon is a good example) being treated extremely badly by other members, even as much as trying to take photos of them in the shower and such. It's entirely possible he had a traumatizing time in there on top of his preexisting mental health conditions. Especially as someone who has been sexualized by being beautiful and feminine since he was literally a child in the industry, this may have made him an even bigger target than just being an idol. So one interpretation of this MV is referencing the invasive nature of an institutional (military) setting. Medical examinations, forcing violence, having a hand help him him hold up the gun to shoot it as seen in the trailer, bunks, etc. With this theory, he would have to walk a fine line because it would be criticizing the South Korean military. Then there’s the theory of being an idol from basically childhood and the ways he has been taken advantage of. He began training at the age of 12 and debuted at the age of 14. There is literally a KZbin video entitled “The Sexualization and feminization of Lee Taemin” chronicling the way adults have been creepy and inappropriate to him since the beginning. The bunks are like like trainee dorms, and he looks back on his old self with sadness and pity. The clinging to the leg of a captor because there’s no other choice. The early loss of innocence, but ultimately coming out empowered by the end. Throughout the MV, he danced in an especially tortured way after depicting memories of invasive manhandling which tracks along any interpretation. There’s clearly a story about someone vulnerable and their journey to self discovery and purging themselves into their empowered "final form.” His hand-under-the-shirt move may have something to do with a secret desire or feeling that keeps trying to get out, perhaps like the temptation of the biblical serpent. Or, as per the title, secret guilt choking him. With the skirt look, there are many keys around his waist. Perhaps this could signify that he already has the keys that he needs to “unlock” himself and they’re all ready for when he’s ready to use them. It could be a reference to his song Advice when he says “you’ll never get the keys to my lock. Like he is the only one who holds the keys to unlock himself, kept safe on his person. In the scene outside in the uniforms near the end, there is the building of extreme anxiety with the inhaler and the gripping and scratching of his legs to try to cope and gather the strength to “burn it all down”/be his true self. The self knowledge that it must be done but he’s scared shitless. One last clinging to authority/the system with they leg, and finally the full acknowledgment that he needs to do it anyway with determination in his eyes. The I think that the lyrics aren’t projecting outwards towards another person, but rather a back and forth with himself, with his conscience vs his base desires. And the lyric “I can walk like that, talk like that, play like that" could apply to all three readings, be it “passing” as queer/cis, appearing to mentally and emotionally healthy, or the training and indoctrination trainees receive to behave perfectly as idols. In livestreams before the comeback, he spoke about how he was going to “walk the tightrope to see how far he can go.” He’s definitely toeing the line with any one of these topics. He and his team are BRILLIANT.

[@harriettholmes539]

Check out Ten "Birthday" Official Music Video. Also Ten "Birthday" Dance Practice.

[@marciamuller9598]

A música fala sobre um amor tóxico, que machuca a ele e a pessoa amada, e ele se sente culpado por só ser capaz de amar assim. É para mim o melhor mv lançado em 2023 depois de Set me Free pt 2 de Jimin. São 2 obras de arte. Toda a grandeza do Kpop que não se rendeu as músicas de fácil assimilação que buscam apenas um sucesso rápido e efêmero. Dramático, performático e intenso. Taemin mostra um artista que é pertinente ao cenário do Kpop há 15 anos. 💜🇧🇷

[@GipsySoul1373]

La canción habla de eso, pero el significado que Taemin le ha dado a través del MV y de todo el concepto en general es muy muy profundo. Inspirado en el libro Le Erotisme (sensualidad y muerte) de Georges Bataille y Demian del alemán Hermann Hesse, Taemin expresa vivencias propias. Hay toda una historia detrás de este MV y el concepto realmente una obra de arte y ni hablar de la interpretación de Taemin, vocales, visuales, actuación, coreografía, en fin , Taemin es ARTE.

[@marciamuller9598]

​@@GipsySoul1373 I agree, Taemin is art 💖

[@totydely-br5014]

I guess it could be about the mental repercussions of being in the military and living your everyday life as a tool for a fight between governments in which you have no voice, spending all your time and energy learning the most efficient ways to kill people you do not use. nor do I want to hurt (could the phrase "loving you is a crime" be about having empathy and compassion for the "opposite side" in the war) and the loss of childhood and innocence it would cause. We see Taemin looking very anxious while holding the gun at target practice and even taking it out on himself through self-harm (because of guilt??) he (or someone else I can't say) then sets the target on fire at 5 :20, possibly as a rebel?? Throughout the MV there is also a theme of everyone being in uniform or boring clothes, so this is juxtaposed with super expressive outfits like Taemin in a skirt which could be a commentary on how the military steals your self-expression and sense of identity, since you have to wear a uniform, shave your head and follow orders. The first scene is quite indicative of both the loss of childhood (children's photos drawn on the wall) and the loss of self, as Taemin is sitting in a room full of colorful clothes while wearing a very simple outfit. This is just my theory, and I could be totally wrong, I have no intention of speaking for Taemin, especially when an anti-military concept would be very controversial and would result in a lot of hate for him. That hurt expression is unforgettable. It's a strong shock and stimulus. Taemin was the first K-pop artist I was exposed to (and became obsessed with) and he became my first prejudice (now ult) for exactly this reason. Always with you, Taemin. 🫰😍

[@BlueNightShineeWorld25508]

Taemin for the idea from reading herman hesse demain novel. The premise is that of a shelter where those trapped inside are being conditioned, tortured abused exctra. Until the character he portrays becomes the alpha male taking control of them and setting everyone free by destroying the place.

[@juanwalter]

Hello, I am writing to tell you that before Taemin released the Gulty CD, he participated with Shinee in the publication of the Hard CD. What should you react? This is spectacular.

[@Doinita.]

🤩🔥

[@BlueNightShineeWorld25508]

Yes shinee is still releasing music after 15 years in the Indy as is Taemin. Also each member also has their solo work. So check out shinee's late member Jonghyuns solo work. If you like this song check out the rest of the album. Any questions feel free to ask

[@juanwalter]

Hello, I am writing to tell you that before Taemin released the Gulty CD, he participated with Shinee in the publication of the Hard CD. What should you react? This is spectacular.