FIRST TIME Watching Doctor Who: The Movie

[@Justinfication]

Subscribe or you will be thrown into the eye of the tardis

[@kyrauniversal]

You earned it without the threat.

[@lio1234234]

Just wanted to say, the eye of harmony has been mentioned many times since :)

[@iaintverysmart]

The doctor getting shot in the first few seconds that he enters america is hilarious.

[@Justinfication]

That scene had us dying haha

[@worthybutter2004]

Bro forgot to check the Tardis scanner for danger outside💀

[@hazeltree7738]

@@worthybutter2004 To be fair if he landed in America that's like bothering to scan for lava in a volcano or water in the ocean

[@tinkertaylor97]

The Eye of Harmony does show up again in 'Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS' and also gets a mention in 'Hide'. The Half human does get a cheeky nod in 'Hell Bent' when Me suggests the hybrid could be half time lord half human and questions why the doctor spends so much time on Earth and his reply is "does it matter".

[@Justinfication]

I must have forgotten about those mentions, thanks for the reminder! Definitely a lot of interesting concepts in this film!

[@JonathanElliotMay]

Also, this movie was successful in the UK, just not in the US. The 8th Doctor’s run was continued with the audio dramas by Big Finish. The mini episode Night of the Doctor where 8 regenerates into the War Doctor, he name drops his companions from the audios. If you want to experience more of 8, I highly recommend you listen to them

[@BigNWide]

And if you're not sure about the 8th Doctor audios, try "The Chimes of Midnight" or "Human Resources", both of which are some of McGann's amazing stories.

[@Whatsgoingonnnnnn]

Paul McGann was born to play the doctor, he understood perfectly and his energy is perfect

[@Justinfication]

I agree!

[@ValueNetwork]

The 7th Doctor, an infamous and dark strategist, a chess master who’s always 3 steps ahead of his opponents and planning every move that he does… getting Shot completely out of nowhere after he crashes his ship is peak fiction, I’m sorry. It’s the funnest death that they could’ve given him!

[@910luk]

Justin... There's literally an entire episode of the 11th Doctor set in the TARDIS that revolves around the eye of harmony exploding

[@Justinfication]

@@910luk I KNOW I KNOW PPL KEEP REMINDING ME IM SORRY I FORGOT 😭😭🙏🙏🙏

[@910luk]

@@Justinfication no forgiveness for the absent minded whotuber. what are we supposed to do? admit you're a human being and that you forget stuff? uncceptable!

[@ItsArcticVision]

@@910lukforgetfulness is not tolerated in this fandom!!!!

[@reallysmallfrisby]

The Eye of Harmony pops up in Classic Who before this, it's also shown in Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS in series 7 as an exploding thing frozen in a white space. Love this movie even if it's very silly, I've watched it loads. I think this movie struggled in America because it's basically 80 minutes of straight doctor who lore drops, also there was some big American sitcom finale at the same time or something? Enjoying this series of first time Doctor Who watching, although face cams would be good to see more reaction.

[@Justinfication]

I did have a face cam in my 7th doctor first time reaction! I'm sure that's something I'll do sometimes when possible, the camera isn't very good though. And that does make sense, it was quite lore-heavy for a new audience. Thanks for watching!

[@Jansenbaker]

Actually, the exploding thing was the "engine" of the TARDIS. The Eye of Harmony was the star kept on the verge of becoming a black hole in that episode. In lore, it is said that there was a central Eye of Harmony on Gallifrey that would beam power to the Eyes of all TARSISes, and gave them time and space calibration by reference. Somehow the Doctor has been able to keep going without it, like fueling up at the rift in Cardiff.

[@azizuladnan2957]

You know what I'm impress the fact that it take place in New Year's Eve 1999, towards 2000 given the fact that it was aired on 1996!! I mean the TV News in this movie is even look realistic. One of those newcasters/anchor line said "Can you believe it? Two thousand." when she is like 4 years early saying it before the year happen~

[@purpleduke3193]

If you want more of 8, then I highly recommend his audio stories, where he's become very prolific. They have my favorite opening theme, composed by James Bond's David Arnold, and have some of the best Dr Who stories out of the entire franchise. They're nice to have on in the background while your doing something else, and his earlier ones are free to listen to on Spotify if you're in the UK (specifically his stories within the first 50 of the monthly range as well as his first season with companion Lucie).

[@Comicbroe405]

8th Doctor is goated & has done some absolutely insane shit in the lore. Definitely check out his early Big Finish stories.

[@Justinfication]

Which of his big finish stories/packs do you recommend I get first?

[@Comicbroe405]

@@Justinfication So basically to start with the 8th Doctor Main Range stuff (1st one is Storm Warning) and after you're done with that move to Eighth Dr Adventures (1st one is Blood of the Daleks). I haven't heard all of them but from my research MR is similar to ClassicWho's style & EDA is similar to NuWho's style.

[@acalman]

He has like 14 seasons in audio

[@monocle_mage9273]

@@Justinfication The main range run started before NuWho so for a time it was arguably the most "current" Doctor Who storyline. It also feels quite a lot like a bridge between Classic and NuWho. Storm Warning is, in my opinion, a really good first story that introduces the new companion, but the quality of the stories does fluctuate a bit early on. Also it's pretty clear that the stories are geared towards people who know classic who. That being said "Chimes of Midnight" is an all time classic and definitely worth checking out. The Eight Doctor adventures aired on radio around the time when NuWho had just started and has a format more similar to that. It even has season long "story arcs" similar to the ones in NuWho. I personally think that it's a better jumping on point and doesn't really reference main range stories. Though personally I do prefer the longer classic format. The two parter "Blood of the Daleks" is the beginning of the season and a good starting point. Both the first 11 Main range stories with McGann as well as the first Eight Doctor Adventures season should be available for free on Spotify so they should be easy to check out. BBC audio also has the first Box set of "Classic Doctors New Monsters" which feature a stand alone McGann story set during the Time War (The Sontaran Ordeal, which is weird since Sontarans debuted in Classic Who). If you eventually want to buy some stories from Big Finish I recommend keeping an eye on their sales as they pretty much always have one or more going on (and as especially the newer releases can be quite pricy, it definitely pays to take advantage of them). The first three seasons of EDA recently got rereleased so you can buy them as collections so that might be something to keep an eye on. I always feel a bit weird when people say we were robbed of Paul McGann as the Doctor or that we got so little from him in the role. I mean, I get it, I too would have liked him to get more stories on TV, but he has such a long and rich run on audio, around 170 stories currently, that it feels weird to talk about him as if he was some kind of weird unknown.

[@thesquire9966]

@@Justinfication There's loads to choose from. Big Finish started their 8th Doctor run in 2001 and it's still going strong with no signs of slowing. His early stuff is in more of the classic series format, (25 minute episodes, 4 episodes per story) then after about 2005/6 they switched to the more modern format (45 minute episodes, you know how the modern show works). Both eras make use of story arcs and character development and such, so obviously the most satisfying thing would be to just start at the beginning and go through them all. That being said, if you're skipping around, highlights of the early era include "The Chimes of Midnight", "Seasons of Fear", "Embrace the Darkness" and "The Natural History of Fear". Part of me also wants to suggest the trilogy of "Neverland", "Zagreus", and "Scherzo" with the warning that they're literally a season finale, the 40th anniversary special, and then the next season opener, so going into them without context could be interesting. For the more recent stuff, I'm going to suggest 2015's "Doom Coalition". It is a full season of 16 episodes (each episode is an hour long), sold in 4 volumes (so you can't really purchase individual episodes), but it's very good. You really get a feel for how Paul McGann would work in a full season of the modern series (and if you like it, there's more 4-volume seasons after it, including one set during the time war). Alternatively, since 2022, the 8th Doctor run has been a lot less serialized, so you can just grab a single boxset (3 episodes) without it being part of a larger arc. From those, I particularly liked "What Lies Inside?" and "Connections", but you can't really go wrong with any of them. You may also find this tool helpful: tardis.guide/stories/?_sort_=date_asc&_media=audio-drama&_range=doctor-who&_doctor=eighth-doctor

[@TimYertle]

dane and alex: justin every 5 minutes: that's a really nice shot!

[@Justinfication]

LMAO TRUE

[@iansmith9279]

The Movie is starting to get more love,from what I can see (via reactions). Its very easy to find fault with, and justifiably; but it's also very hard to dislike as a piece of entertainment - and McGann is simply excellent! Going forward, you need to watch (if you can get hold of it,because it's not so easy now) the first Dr Who episode:An Unearthly Child; And it's basically compulsory to watch Genesis of the Daleks, if you want to be considered part of fandom ;)

[@Justinfication]

Genesis of the Daleks reaction will be coming soon! But yeah, weird bits of lore and slight corniness aside, this is an incredible movie. I really enjoyed it!

[@jokkemursula8731]

​@@JustinficationI'd recommend not watching Genesis in one sitting. It's very good, but even the best 6-parters can sometimes start to feel a bit... long when viewed that way, especially if you're not very used to the style and pacing of the era. Two or three parts at a time is generally a good amount. This is just a recommendation though, so do whatever feels right. It's not like there are any strict "rules" for this.

[@binrotheheretic8174]

​@@JustinficationThe lesson of Classic Who is basically, if viewing figures are important for survival of the show - don't schedule it for transmission against Coronation Street or in this case against the VERY last episode of (original run in the US) Rosanne iirc - you'll lose... Also similarly probably not midnight on Friday in the UK ??? Really hoping for an 8th doctor & Lucie 'bleedin' Miller spin off - Paul doesn't look any older in his mid 60's - but Sheridan & Paul might be too busy even if it got greenlit... The Big Finish stiff though is fabulous.....

[@channyh.221B]

But ... we've seen the 8th Doctor again, didn't we? You must have seen 'The Night of the Doctor' and he's showing what a great Doctor-Who-run he could have done, if only given the chance. Though what a great reactions from you and your friends, thank you for sharing and thank your friends for willing to participate.

[@Genideb]

He also was in Power of The Doctor as guardian of the edge

[@Justinfication]

Thank you for watching! And yes, we do mention the night of the doctor!

[@mjm3091]

8:20 To be fully fair he has been the Doctor for the long time between two series and he got a lot of audio material, which at least for him is mostly considered canon (he even references his companions during Night of the Doctor). He also does have further appearances, namely during Flux. I do feel like they totally should bring him back as like 16 or 17 Doctor, Tennant style for like anniversary mini-series or something. Or just bring him as his original self in multi-Doctor story. He is still one of the youngest living Doctors right now.

[@j.diamond6014]

i need more of this series, group reactions are the best!

[@Justinfication]

More on the way!

[@Blazing_Ninja]

Can i just say, i LOVE THIS SERIES!! I first watched the movie a few years ago, but you guys’ reactions were so funny 🤣 KEEP IT UP!

[@kyrauniversal]

The TARDIS console is at the bottom of the crystal on top. In the episode, The Doctors' Wife, the dress the human TARDIS wore has a huge resemblance to that structure. With what the Master did to make it crash, take the insinuation however you wish and be haunted like I am.

[@dwfan91-]

I actually love this movie lol edit: the half human thing is actually a hold-over from the books. in the 90s there was a range called the virgin new adventures that basically bridged together the events of the show and the tv movie and they were all basically hinting that there was something special about the Doctor. In the last book of the range, lungbarrow, it was revealed that he was the Other- the 3rd of the 3 original founders of Gallifrey and basically created time lord society. It was then hinted at the end of that book that the companion Leela who stayed on Gallifrey after the events of Season 15 was pregnant with the Doctor and that she would be his mother which was an alley-oop for the TV movie which then revealed he's half human on his mothers side. I personally... don't like the twist. I get why they did it, it explains a lot of things but I just don't like it. still good movie though

[@Justinfication]

Yeah, there are a lot of strange ideas in this film but I was still pleasantly surprised, I honestly went into this not expecting to love it but I really did enjoy it. I think Paul McGann makes a phenomenal Doctor and his performance was incredible. The writing had a hint of 'corny 90s American movie' but it was basically great. Very sad now that we never got a full 8th doctor series.

[@TheKoshi]

this movie is so burned into my memory from when I was a kid. the doctor being shot as soon as he left the tardis is so funny. also we stan bruce the ambulance driver.

[@Justinfication]

Such a good movie and what a way to begin it.

[@alexray03]

that alex guy is so cool

[@Justinfication]

Very true

[@JonathanElliotMay]

5:22 some hospitals in America do oddly enough actually have viewing galleries for surgeries. Mainly for the the board of investors but yeah, it’s weird.

[@azizuladnan2957]

Nice. We get a new follower to join out cult- I mean fandom. Yes, fandom. But in a sense... it kinda like an experiment. Each newcomers that you brought into this show, whether directly or indirectly, might see different things for their first time watch-a-long. I mean 60 years of this show, they are many things that they can started with. For me, if I want to invite someone to watch this show, I will let them react to 'Doctor Who | Universe (60th Anniversary)' by The Confession Dial. that video is superb! You should check that video out if you have the time~

[@Justinfication]

I'll take a look, thank you. And that is all very true, there are many many options with this incredible show. I loved this film!

[@damienkakoschke3099]

Wow, you tackled the Dr Who movie! (absolutely true, all the fans, pining for the cancelled Old School TV show, adored this new TARDIS console room - and yes, you guys were also right, (impressive for non dr who fans), this was intended as a pilot for a proposed british/american co-production of a rebooted TV show (kind of like now).

[@LilacLily17]

I’m forever grateful to big finish for seeing the potential in 8 and giving him so many amazing audio dramas. It would be an absolute shame if this and night of the Doctor were his only appearances

[@everett3031]

this was too fun

[@Justinfication]

beware fungus john

[@StephenWhittaker-g5g]

There is an Animated 8th Doctor serial called Salda. the original Shalda was the 4th Dr but did not air as It was not finished due to BC strikes, so it was remade for the 8th Dr, however They made an animated version of the original 4th Dr Story too. as an interesting aside the story for this and City of death were written by Douglas Adams and not to waste the script for Shalda he rewrote the 2 as a book "Dirk Gentlys Holistic Detective agency " which as made into 2 TV series the latest stars Elija Wood. (Douglas Adams was most famous for The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy)

[@ThePonderer]

Personally I think this movie holds up big time. I adore it, and I wish we got a whole two seasons of Eight and Grace.

[@brucebatmanwayne3654]

Legitimately my favorite movie ever 😭😭 Paul is my FAV Doctor!!! If you like this I highly recommend any of his Big Finish audio dramas!

[@Justinfication]

I'll give them a go, thank you!

[@brucebatmanwayne3654]

@@Justinficationa good jumping on point is his first audios which are free on Spotify, as well as the new Audacity stuff (the upcoming third box set has a story written by the films writer!)

[@chrispy3369]

It's cool that you literally have both target audiences that were intended for this movie. A british lad who has seen Doctor Who and an American who doesn't know a thing about what the hell a TARDIS is.

[@YoungButRetro]

Probably not the best idea using the BBC iPlayer version since that was edited to cut approximately 1 and a half minutes of footage during the gunfight.

[@alexray03]

we still had fun so it honestly doesn't matter

[@YoungButRetro]

@@alexray03 still a great watch though none the less, didn't mean to sound like a prick lol (my autism gets in the way in regards to these things)

[@alexray03]

@@YoungButRetro hahahah don’t worry i totally get that as im autistic too it was such a fun watch and now that i know that version exists i might have to find it lol

[@YoungButRetro]

@@alexray03 There are two main versions, this one (Broadcast/iPlayer/VHS) and the Blu-ray/DVD. The TV Movie was edited down due to the Dunblane Massacre taking place months prior.

[@alexray03]

@@YoungButRetro thats so cool omg thank you for telling me this!!

[@rodneyrosenberg9435]

The Doctor being half-human is a crazy topic. Most say it’s an aspect taken from the Virgin New Adventures novels, but it was actually taken from a short story titled ‘The Chronicles of Doctor Who?’ written by John Leekley who created a bible which acted as the basis for the original TV Movie which was intended to be a complete reboot of the show. The Doctor’s father was to be revealed as a time lord/time explorer named Ulysses who had a son with a human woman named Annalise, reason for the Doctor being half-human. It would also be revealed that Ulysses is the Master’s father, making him and the Doctor half brothers. You can actually briefly hear the script for this particular part of the story in Paul McGann’s audition tape. The bible further included remakes of classic who stories, including Earthshock, Talons of Weng-Chiang, etc, with new designs and names of the original monsters. However, the bible’s pitch was scrapped for being ‘too serious’ and Leekley was fired, but the half human element still remained in the movie obviously. The romantic plot between 8 and Grace was also an element taken from a rejected pitch written by Robert deLaurentis. The whole rabbit hole surrounding this movie is insane, you can find out more about it on Tardiswiki.

[@Justinfication]

That's very interesting, I'll have to look into it all mor!

[@MrMagicianJr]

Instantly you can see the difference between the british show and this movie that was made in America

[@Nthn1vry]

You should check out Big Finish if you want more 8, he has 20 years' worth of audio stories :)

[@BigNWide]

It sounds as though you're missing some significant lore from the Classic series. I strongly recommend "The Deadly Assassin", which was the first story ever set entirely on Gallifrey. I won't say any more because. . . spoilers.

[@toestealer]

well im not gonna tell u the thing cuz everyone else did, but this was a fun mix of perspective and a good video. how much of classic has your buddy who has seen all of modern watched? ❤

[@alexray03]

the most of the classic series I've watched is the first episode of tales of the tardis and the pyramids of mars episode of tales as well as the reaction to "Remembrance of the Daleks" on this channel (although I don't think that would really count as much). I haven't actually watched a proper episode of the classic series yet although I will probably at some point in the future!

[@dazzycommander3256]

Justin you should watch Doctor Who and the Silurians & Planet of Giants & The Tomb of the Cybermen & The Ice Warriors

[@karapluemer2531]

How did you find the whole movie? Is it streamed anywhere? Cause I can’t find it 😩

[@StephenWhittaker-g5g]

If you are watching Classic Series then Genesis of the Daleks was a game changer (this era of Dr Who was run by Philip Hinchcliffe and Robert Holmes and responsible for Sarah Jane becoming popular. eventually the BBC moved Hinchliffe off Dr Who because there were complaints it was to scary for children (his first season borrows from horror films like frankensteins monster and dr jekyll and mr hyde, ) The thig that bothered people at the time about the movie was the continuity problems like the master being tried on Galliffrey, the serpent thing, the half human thing (sometmes explained as being caused due to regeneration instability), and there was rarely romanc in the original series (apart from the 1st Dr accidentally getting married)

[@ThePonderer]

21:00 this movie wasn’t a success because the marketing was shit and they aired it at the same time as a landmark episode of a very popular sitcom on a rival channel.

[@DexterAMV]

Make them watch the 50th

[@nateowen1064]

It’s a good movie

[@lil_cherubim]

MCGANN GANG UNITEEE!!🎉🎉😂❤❤

[@littlemissmello]

Yeaaaah

[@TheBrainOfMorbius]

Is this Classic Who? I regard it as more sort of 'Classic Who-adjacent'.

[@LewisBuck2005]

First

[@Justinfication]

You win! Congratulations!

[@nathanjordon6950]

This movie is just a series of bad decisions with some really good ideas mixed in.