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[@JoelMatton]

The papers that the co-driver ("passenger") is holding have directions on them, basically telling the driver how sharply to steer. They have driven the route together multiple times ahead of the race, and the co-driver has written down how sharp the cures are and how far apart they are etc. Then during the race the co-driver is basically sitting there going "two o clock", "9 o clock" etc to tell the driver how sharply to steer and in what direction. As far as I understand it the drivers more or less blindly follow those instructions, so their lives are in each others hands.

[@DenUitvreter]

I think we saw a miscommunication or pace note error in the penultimate clip, the crash head on into the corner banking.

[@Paltse]

One could call them pace notes.

[@cyrilleleb.8563]

​@@DenUitvreter No. The brake broke. That's what he says (in french): "fuck, the brake, no, no". And look at his right leg which tries to brake unsuccessfully.

[@n0body550]

@@3dge433Why do people like you keep misinforming people that the numbers mean gears, its never been that except from maybe 5 drivers in history wanting it that way. The numbers are literally just the speed of the corner.

[@3dge433]

@@n0body550 how is it misinformation if some drivers use that system

[@swordmonkey6635]

"Those people are way too close!" Me: **laughs in Group B**

[@bonovoxel7527]

SAME VIBE 😂😂😂

[@portechella]

😂😂😂😂 I had to replay that part

[@Phaevryn]

"Oh those people are way too close". Oh you sweet summer child, what you saw there was not even slightly the worst back in the day.

[@thomasbeirne8213]

Just two days ago, a clip in my YT feed showed some drunk boyos taking turns lying in the road near a jump, with the cars going over them. Perfectly safe, as long as the car is going at speed...

[@bakersmileyface]

​@@thomasbeirne8213You need to watch Walter Rohrl's pov camera footage of group B rallying.

[@AdamIsMyNameO]

Summer child?

[@ClarenceBeeks1]

@@AdamIsMyNameO It means that she is sweet, innocent, and uncorrupted. ie didnt watch Group B where they would try and touch the cars.

[@sopcannon]

group b the good old days@@ClarenceBeeks1

[@Shoomer1988]

If you want to see more then you might enjoy "Group B: When Rallying Got TOO FAST" It's when a variant of the sport got so crazy they had to ban it.

[@specracer28]

Oh yeah group B rally was truly insane. Rally4 spectators are tame compared to Group B Group B was rally with no rules

[@HT-io1eg]

I went to see group B. 2am, minus 5C, forest stage south wales. Pitch dark, then the marshal’s whistles, then noise, fire, lights, engines blipping to keep the turbo spun up, stones flying, then pitch dark and everyone cheering, laughing. I can remember it clear as day though it was 40 years ago

[@akyhne]

So modern day spectators are idiots, for not wanting to die? ​ I don't miss that era a bit. Modern rally is faster, way better built cars, and no spectators, to get in their way.

[@matsv201]

Really a spectator sport.. specially in Portugal.

[@John-jr4dj]

Group B was beyond all reason, so many people died. As a spectator racing sport though I don't think it will ever be equaled again.

[@MeFreeBee]

The co-driver has "pace notes", a set of notes on every bend and jump on the stage which he constantly delivers to the driver.

[@module79l28]

0:40 - Welcome to WRC in Portugal. Our spectators' behaviour "killed" Group B but they didn't seem to learn anything from it and kept behaving the same way in the following years. 6:45 - The driver said "no brakes, no brakes!".

[@AHVENAN]

Well I disagree with singlehandedly, the final nail in the Group B coffin came shortly after when Henri Toivinen crashed and died

[@RetroGamingSweden]

"Use GPS" made me laugh out loud at 5am in the morning.. In a fun and playful way. Try to imagine the GPS trying to keep up.. "In 200 meters turn le... in 100 meters turn le.. in 20 meters turn le.. You know what.. I quit!"

[@MKitchen75]

yes that would be funny at rally when you drive 200 km/h and gps is yelling you wait wait wait XD

[@tegneren]

Gps: "You went sgraight through that bush back there, lets recalculate for ten seconds." Ten seconds later: "oh, that bush is now two km behind us and you missed about 25 turns and are now coming to a dead end in a school zone. Good luck"

[@Aoiichi]

You know what i love about this channel ? That when asks , for someone to posts the answers , yall do so with no bs . At least as far as i have seen. So thank you.

[@Shoomer1988]

Road cars with better engines is the understatement of the year.

[@alan-]

The engine is still restricted to 4 cylinders, 2 litre displacement, and typically an inlet restrictor of around 35mm diameter.

[@Shoomer1988]

@@alan- But the actual performance is not even on the same page.

[@cyrilleleb.8563]

​@@Oi.... According to the rules, these racing cars have to be “based on” basic road cars. Of course it's more complicated than that, but she got the idea.

[@bakersmileyface]

Depends on where you're rallying. Many rallies literally are road cars with roll cages. That's how almost everyone starts their rallying career after all.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

@@cyrilleleb.8563 They are based on a regular cars. Everything else than the body is changed.

[@Traski]

I had a classmate, who drove rally in young driver's class. He had the safest car in the whole group and was a really talented driver - yet, it didn't save him. He drove too fast into a 90° turn, rolled the car 7 times and completely wrecked the car. He passed away in the ambulance, during the ride to the hospital. Rally ain't a joke.

[@yugimotobutjacked3231]

Sorry to hear that, how far was the drop? I'm only asking out of regard to standardized safety equipment in competition. Rally is certainly a dangerous sport, but in the modern day it's far more dangerous to go to some rally events then it would be to drive in them.

[@Traski]

​@@yugimotobutjacked3231 He drove onto a corner near a ledge, not very high - but with the speed, it was enough to put the car airborne and for him to lose control once hitting to the ground. The sharp corner lifted the car while turning, and it rolled. Two drivers came to the scene, with helicopter and ambulance in tow. They had to cut the roof off, but it was too late. Again he had the safest car in the series, but with those speeds you never are completely safe.

[@davidburke2132]

Those papers are called the “pace notes”. They have notes that the passenger, called the “navigator”, reads out just before they get to the relevant part of the road so that the driver knows what’s coming up and how to drive it. It gives things like severity of the corner, direction of the corner, any jumps, water, etc. and it reduces the risk of driving at these speeds compared to doing it totally blind.

[@NoProtocol]

Thank you for explaining this!

[@zawilious]

Basically, while driving at such speeds and dirt slippy roads, the driver has to start the Reaction before even the Action occurs while planning for the next move ahead, So the passenger acts as a buffer map loading the terrain details coming ahead

[@thomasbeirne8213]

@@NoProtocol I'm glad I refreshed before commenting :). An example navigator callout, "200, right, 3". 200 meters, right turn, 3 out of 5 sharpness. And he's calling out non-stop. Doesn't often lookup. I couldn't do it.

[@davidburke2132]

@@zawilious indeed, being a navigator is a real skill. If the navigator takes their eyes off the notes they’re likely to lose where they are on the page. They need to feel where they’re up to through the movement of the car rather than by sight so that they can concentrate on calling out the notes continuously.

[@elpanfis]

@@NoProtocol Haven't seen anyone noting that the pace notes are given to the navigator by the driver while they "recce" or run at normal speeds in normal cars on the route, the navigator anotates everything to the style of the driver. Then a few days before race they run on the actual rally car at higher speeds 1 or 2 times to adjust pace notes so they can go full speed on race day. These are stages and they are chronometered individually separating cars by 2 minutes (give or take, depending on dust, rain, etc) so they normally don't find themselves with other cars unless someone had a problem like the ones that crashed.

[@erka001]

No way they could go this fast without the co-driver telling them what is coming up. Best motorsport ever.

[@AIPerson-yy1uv]

They have a map and writing with all the turns and they say it in advance, usually 1 move ahead of another.

[@kevin982]

The guy in the Citroen was Sebastian Loeb. Probably the greatest rally driver ever born.

[@kevin982]

@@Mojova1 Not a lie but my opinion. Marcus Gronholm was also a great driver but an individual person can choose who is the best and I did say probably. I really like Seb so for me, he comes in on top. You, you are biased unless it's not Marcus you are talking about. 😁

[@kevinjones3900]

Loeb if only he changed cars to really show it off . He is a car god but only did it with one manufacturer.

[@madrooky1398]

Walter Röhrl. Everything else is Kindergarten. "When accelerating, the tears of emotion must flow horizontally towards the ear."

[@AngelinaJolie734]

Around the year 2000, I was spectator on a rally in France. I was near a bump where every cars where taking off and landing randomly. Only two cars didn't take off. One of the driver was the young Sébastien Loeb before he became famous. He was the only one who lightly pressed the brake pedal to slow the car down just enough to keep it on the ground.

[@IparIzar]

Ogier is up there

[@camh1149]

They are ultra beefed up, street legal cars. They race against time. The copilot reads what is called ''pace notes''. The pilot and copilot work in almost perfect symbiosis to get from point A to B. World Rallye Championship (WRC) is very big everywhere in the world, except in the US to be honest. I think that Isle of Man is a once per year event, whereas WRC is an all year competition.

[@thomasbeirne8213]

They tried it here, years ago, with Ken Block. But, because there is no stadium to sell tickets and merch, and it's personnel and equipment heavy to televise, it didn't gain much traction here. Fan base was too low in the U.S. for the networks to invest in coverage. Shame, really. This, this is real driving. Not the NASCAR and F1 stuff. But, they have stadiums and TV deals.

[@davidholden2658]

Isle of Mann TT is once a year but there are other road racing events that are very similar, particularly in Ireland.

[@camh1149]

@@thomasbeirne8213 I completely agree with you. Although I am a huge F1 fan, I must admit that WRC drivers are the real badasses.

[@thomasbeirne8213]

@@camh1149 Yeah, thx for that. I admit F1 is way more interesting then NASCAR, but unfortunately it, for whatever reason, isn't huge with the NASCAR race folk. Which means, no fans, no ratings, no MONEY, no coverage. I will say, I believe Schumacher is a legend. Shame that.

[@gregorturner4753]

@@thomasbeirne8213 there is an american rally comp but it gets NO coverage. Ken Block nearly won it 2022 before he passed away. in fact his year is in a documentary on youtube showing how he went preparing and competing in the different events.

[@ShavoSoaDer]

One of my favourite sports, number of fatal accidents is surprisingly low considering how dangerous it looks. Cars have upgraded suspensions, engine components, wheels etc. and especially on top level, have very little in common with normal car.

[@volundrfrey896]

Yeah when you start following it you realise how amazing the cars are because there really should be more fatalities. Hats of to the engineers making the cars as safe as they are. Even what's considered a mild accident in WRC where they just drive on would be devastatingly fatal in the safest normal road car.

[@gooshie3]

Yeah, that first accent was Irish ;)

[@jacobthibodeau6685]

Those papers have a list of every turn and feature on the track. There is a number (1-6 ) with 1 being the sharpest secondary to a "hairpin" turn. There also is a verbal system they use to tell the driver when and what kind of feature or turn is coming up too like which side of the track to hold after a turn or jump and things like that. Unlike other racing events with Rally you dont know the track and the only time you do the full track is during the actual race, so you have to reply on your co-driver to get you to the finish line.

[@ragerancher]

That's not quite correct, rally drivers will have driven the track before the actual rally and it's part of what informs their notes. However they have so many stages they have no hope of remembering the route until they have done it a few times.

[@dennisjardine5416]

The papers are called pace notes where the navigator ('passenger') calls out directions as to what is coming next since the drivers don't practice the track before hand.

[@robbarnwell1853]

The larger rallies have 'recce' days prior to the main event whick allow 2 runs through a stage to make and amend the pace notes, max speed 50kph. Even then there has to be a skeleton safety radio net set up through the stage, I used to do it for Rally GB/RAC Rally.

[@lystic9392]

Basically they go so fast, and it's so tough to see, that when I tried a 'realistic' rally game I really needed the call-outs to even make sense of what I was seeing and what was happening. Like, you often cannot see a turn properly and definitely not beyond a turn or a jump. But I guess rally drivers would know every bump and edge from the top of their head. For me it was like: Well I think he said I should take the jump on the right... I live! I did have a proud moment when my family wanted to try it too, because it looked easy, and they couldn't get past the first turn. ^_^ But honestly, I think the video footage from inside the car is by far the most impressive and intense. And especially when they don't crash. It goes so fast! And the paths are so narrow and unclear and uneven. I have gotten a lot of respect for rally drivers through that game.

[@ShaimingLong]

Out of curiosity, what game was that?

[@lystic9392]

​​@@ShaimingLong I had to look it up. It was DiRT Rally 2.0? I used a pedal and steer setup with very strong force feedback, and turned off all assists. And when I crash my desk light and stuff would fall over it was really cool. But when it came to the tracks with ice on them I couldn't get through and I eventually gave up. There is a lady rally driver on KZbin who can do it with her eyes closed XD If you look up Rally driver chasing down ghost on DiRT Rally 2.0 WRC, you will see her do tracks with ease. She makes it look so easy.

[@ShaimingLong]

@@lystic9392 Thanks for checking! I was hoping it was some quality niche game I hadn't played before - though I haven't had a steering wheel since the late 90's with Need for Speed 2 on PC. I also turn off the assists when I can in games, it's gotten to the point when I play Forza Horizon 4 or 5, I actually can't control cars properly with assists on! I love the cross country and dirt races, even if the physics are on the loose side for a sim racer. I'll look up that lady, I was decent at DiRT, but definitely not that good!

[@chetcarman3530]

The "Passenger" is the "Co-Driver" or "Navigator," who has "Pace Notes" on his lap. He reads from the Pace Notes to the driver how far to the next turn, jump or obstacle, left or right, sharp or easy, what to watch out for, how fast, what gear, etc. They've driven the roads before the event, taking precise notes of every detail along the way. The Co-Driver's life is in the Driver's hands, he/she can barely glance up & knows where they are mostly by sound and feel and has to stay calm no matter what at speeds WAY over 100mph on those narrow roads you saw. They get little of the credit from the public at large, but are virtually the eyes and brain in the driver's ears and the driver is the limbs, hands & feet. 💥💢💯

[@kennethdaniel3889]

I truly enjoy your channel since I first subscribed. I don’t know what to expect next and you have a variety of different content that’s introduced and your reactions are genuine once again. Keep up the gr8 work. ❤

[@jasonguest5820]

WRC or 'Rally' is a point to point race, something like 200miles broken up into 'legs' or 'stages' and it takes a few days to run them all. The driver does not know the course and ideally has never driven any of those roads before. The co-driver gets to 'scout' each stage and take notes about all the turns, using a much slower car, this is the only course information the team will have besides the weather. The cars all run the stages single file, passing another car means they are going awful slow.

[@NoProtocol]

This was the explanation that I needed, thank you!

[@jasonguest5820]

@@NoProtocol You're welcome! People will probably point you towards "Group B" next which is the most insane WRC ever got. The class of car was eliminated after a few years due to horrific fatal crashes. The machines were simply too fast for the kind of courses they were racing on, the cars were not far off from F1 in speed.

[@akyhne]

​@@jasonguest5820What are you even talking about?! Close to F1 speed? In what way? A 0-100 race? Sure. But anything besides that, no. Even 1990s WRC got faster, than Group B cars ever were. Group B only still has the upper hand, in top speed, with top speeds around 225 km/h. You also totally neglect, that it was only in the last few years, Group B got that crazy. In the first seasons, they had 300-350 hp, and no 4 wheel drive.

[@elpanfis]

Both driver and copilot (navigator) do drive the courses in a single car to make the pace notes that will allow driver to get max speed. In some like WRC events repeat and most stages stay almost the same so some crews are familiar with them, specially factory teams that run all events. There's some iconic stages around the world, like Ouninpohja in Finland, Monte Lerno in Italia (Sardegna), etc.

[@Snarge22]

I had the tame USA version of the rally Ford Sierra Cosworth 500 called the Merkur XR4ti. It was a very good car that I really enjoyed for a good 160,000 miles.

[@PeterRobertsson]

The side kick is the map reader....and constantly instruct the driver.... :-)

[@Plague_Doc22]

Congrats on 100k! WOuld love to see you react to more sport stuff. Basketball feels like an undertapped market.

[@runeingebretsen8378]

1:44 the ford sierra RS 500,made 224 hp on a 2.0L engine and the weight is 2685 pounds.

[@ShaimingLong]

What I've never really been able to wrap my head around is how these drivers become so skilled, given most mistakes will wreck the car. Just how many cars have some of these drivers gone through to be able to control a vehicle so precisely on very poor terrain? Not to mention the beating their body's take from the G forces and jumps! To say it's awe inspiring would be an understatement.

[@volundrfrey896]

One popular theory behind why the northern countries are so good is because they get the opportunity to drive a lot on snow. It means you'll be "at the edge" at lower speeds and when you crash you hit a relative soft snow bank instead of a concrete block or a tree. Growing up on the Swedish country side I have a lot of friends who totalled their cars at a young age playing around on gravel backroads. I didn't but I sure came close a few times.

[@ShaimingLong]

@@volundrfrey896 I can definitely see how that provides 'Rally drivers to be' a solid advantage, assuming they actually learn how to keep the car under control in such conditions. Plus I have to assume the quality of driving instructors is better due to having to make sure students can handle the rural roads and bad weather. Although I still struggle to see how people manage to go from good at keeping a car controlled in bad weather to being able to do crazy long drifts down super narrow roads or slam a car around a hairpin corner while barely seeming to slow down. I don't get how they can master those kinds of maneuvers without having a graveyard of cars behind them. The amount of practice and skill it must take to get to that point is nothing short of incredible!

[@madrooky1398]

"If you see the tree you're driving into, you're understeering. If you only hear it, you have oversteer" Walter Röhrl

[@barryevans791]

I remember watching a video where Lewis Hamilton went out in a rally car and he was bricking it. The rally driver was surprised and said "you travel around a track at up to 200 mph, why are you scared" and the reply was "I don't have a cliff I can drive off". Rally cars have a limit of 200bhp and have to be road legal with a certain number of commercial models sold to qualify. It is a 2 man team, the driver and the co-pilot. They are allowed to drive the track once before racing, where the co-pilot takes notes (which is the papers you asked about). The co-pilot calls out the turns as they are coming up and the drivers job is to take the track as quickly as possible to run the fastest time.

[@davidholden2658]

If you like Baxter Dury you really should listen to his father Ian Dury. His album New Boot sand Panties is a classic (Baxter Dury appears in the cover photo) but he's best known for Hit me with your rhythm stick.

[@BuzzaB77]

the papers are the notes on the directions of the track. The drivers are driving 'blind'. only the co-driver has seen the track, they get to make notes on the directions and severity of the turns , and they the driver relies on the accuracy of that info for the rally. Tracks are not circular, they are a linear run through a forest/village/desert with different start and finish points.

[@gcs6215]

The joy on your face...is priceless.

[@edonveil9887]

Have we ever seen Ms Ptotocol this emotional?

[@tbv_shorts]

Most modern top flight WRC cars put out 500bhp+ from turbocharged 1.6 litre 4 cylinder engines with additional electric motors to provide extra power when the battery has charge. the papers are pace notes which are uber important to let the drivers know what's coming up GPS isn't really an option compared to a good co-pilot as they are describing the conditions 3-4 turns ahead and not just where to go but road conditions, jumps, water, where there are overhanging rocks which corners are safe to cut and which aren't etc. Rally racing is popular in most of Europe, Southern American countries like Mexico and Chile and in Australia and new Zealand too. I love rally, but love bikes more, its my dream to go to the TT, its way more dangerous to spectate rallying though, though its improved a lot from the 80's, The group B cars back then were next level and the fans were out of their minds. Running 500-600bhp with 80's brake, suspension and safety tech, the cars were monsters and paved the way for some of the best cars ever produced.

[@j0hnn13K]

Rally is a timed event, so there is some time between one car and the next, these are production cars... sorta, heavily modified with powerful engines build by small teams and factory teams. There are many different classes in rally, usually categorized into weight or horsepower, to keep an even playing field. The codriver with the papers is basically the first navigation system used in cars ever, his directions make it possible for the driver to go down these narrow roads that quickly. The spectators are a special breed, even though these days they are located in far safer spots, most of the footage you saw was from the rally group-B class, the craziest rally class there ever was, people regularly got injured badly (or worse) and that class has been banned due to that (and other reasons, mainly the dangers). Do check out rally group B, it's insane what these cars and drivers did, and how ... "lacking in the brain department" some of the fans were.

[@bjcbjc6133]

You should check out group b rally racing the cars were so light and fast it got banned... unfortunately there was also some deaths

[@akyhne]

They were too fast, for the time. Even in the 1990s, WRC cars got faster.

[@bjcbjc6133]

@@akyhne and still today.... Because of the new regulations

[@loutsont2985]

"Imagine the calculations the drivers have to make to decide when to turn the wheel" - well, No Protocol, that is hitting the nail on the head right away. They have to do everything about 15 yards in advance!

[@peroskarstorholm4196]

Both Sabbath and the Dury tune is amazing! Check out Baxter’s dad Ian’s stuff too, especially his first album; ‘New Boots and Panties’ which is a british classic. You can easily hear they’re related. Enjoy 😊

[@guystewart9554]

the passenger is giving directions. the event is divided into stages and the object is to complete each stage the fastest. Yes they are nuts. Rally racing takes place all over the world except possibly the US.

[@nizze6855]

Rally cars is standard road cars that have been modified to maintain peak performance in the most extreme driving conditions including, of course, jumps.

[@nathanreeves9408]

Nice reaction! You are right about them racing against the clock. The passenger reads out the pace notes that tell the driver what turns are coming up and how sharp it is etc. They do a rece (practice) beforehand to make the notes. The course is normally run over a number of stages. Each stage can vary in lenghth, and they will usually cover a whole area over a weekend depending on the type of rally. The times are added up over the course of the event -fastest person wins. Definitely check out the Group B Rallying other people have mentioned. You might also want to check out Michele Mouton, female group B rally driver.

[@michaelgrabner8977]

"The papers" are the road instructions= the term is "pace notes" which the "Co Driver" has to tell the driver in order to inform him what comes next.. that includes the actual road surface (if the track has changing road surfaces which many Ralley tracks do have) the pace for that actual section they are in, when to break or to accellerate with the gear number + end speed and how the next curve to take looks like including the info if it is an "unseen curve" or a "open seen curve" and how many degree it is bending with the info in which gear + end speed that curve has to be taken... All those infos are delivered in different ways team by team= meaning driver and co driver are a well practiced team having a personal code language for all those informations how ever that might look like ...for instance for curves some like to get the gear number + actual degree number others like to get the gear number + a clock face number instead...all what matters the info is = rightly timed + short + precise at the same time = So a good Co Driver is as much as important than the driver and can also make the difference of winning and loosing Instructions could sound like : "long straight five /two ten, asphalt" "down three /one fifty, leaning right closing" "break two /eighty, unseen nine o´clock into loose gravel" Those 3 commandos/instructions do mean = 1. "This is a long straight asphalt road to take in the 5th gear with the speed of 210 km/h" 2. "Now shift down into 3rd gear = doing a "motor break down to 150km/h" because the road is slightly bending right more and more and more" 3. Now pull the foot break and shift into 2nd gear down to 80km/h in order to take an unseen curve bending left with 45 degree into a road with loose gravel as surface

[@jeanackle]

- Raced against the clock, on public roads (closed during the event ofc); each car starts about "a couple minutes" after the previous. - Each rally event (race) lasts several days (roughly one week), divided into several parts called Stages, each stage somewhere between say 5 and 15 Km long. - Cars are STREET LEGAL (current top class are hybrids with turbocharged 1.6litres, IIRC), with steel roll-cages among other mandatory safety measures. The cars namely have to be driven themselves (as opposed to being transported by another vehicle) out of race, between stages, among normal traffic, dollowing normal driving laws. - It's a two persons sport. The passenger, called Navigator, reads out loud notes of what comes ahead on the road. It was also the navigator who has previously compiled the notes, during the early (non timed) phase of the event. Impossible for the drivers to go that fast on those roads without the navigators. - Very popular in Europe (rivaling Formula 1), also very popular everywhere else, with races on every continent, including North America (in Mexico).

[@RadeticDaniel]

The importance of the navigator reading out pace notes is because unlike racing circuits that are about 6km long on average, going to 28km long in the longest in history, rallying stages dwarf those distances and are still raced like cross country travels. Rally names or stage names used to be from city A to city B. The most famous of all was Paris-Dhakar, which later became Rally Dhakar when Paris stopped being the starting point. Just check in which continents they are and we all can see how a driver would never remember a full course in the first few years in the career

[@SteffenvanderVaart]

Hi NP, Steffen again! Dropping in to tell you that a notification like this immediately puts me in a "chillmode" state. I fetch some iced tea, grab a blanket, get cozy and enjoy your content for a good few minutes. Then I vibe to your music recs for another 10 minutes. Please don't change this format you're running if you can help it! Cheers from NL!

[@NoProtocol]

Steffen, thanks for saying this! Glad I could be part of your chill moments. Hope you like the music (:

[@dougoneill7266]

The accent in the first bit of clip sounds like Ulster Irish, could be County Donegal, Could be one of the 6 Northern Ireland Counties. The Rally is probably 'The Rally of the North' here in Ireland

[@kylemenos]

Your right it's Irish but not northern. As someone who's visited Ballyshannon for the Rory Gallagher festival many times they take on the Ulster accent more in how they speak/ He sounds like 'the Viper' from that stupid TV show Hardy Bucks with the long S in Sssstyle. Probably western and definatly a culcy given he says 'her' to refer to the road.

[@diehandgottes6721]

Yes, you should think carefully about where you position yourself during a rally and avoid certain bends - I think many people are looking for the thrill.

[@dirtbikerman1000]

Basically Rally is you driving to work when you are late 😂

[@JIMRECURVEGUY]

I have done navigation (passenger) in a rally car race. The specifications for a well put together car include: tires of a performance brand, a roll cage, a high rev camshaft, special intake and or turbo for mass air flow, suspension upgrades for a tighter or less bumpy suspension for the turns. As navigator I tell the driver in approximation when the turn is coming and what degree it is. There is usually a course that you go round and round a few times maybe 10 to 15 depending on the length of the course and there are others to where you go around 2 or 3 times, few are long range rally races that I have seen while in Europe.

[@kurtnelle]

hahaha. they just kept going. Wow!

[@Jacques.dAnjou]

My father used to do that sport and I was 4 and sitting in the back seat. Can you imagine that? I bet today that’d be illegal. Greetings from the Netherlands!

[@alvaro6522]

Ohh!! Lucky guy!! Cheers from Spain!!!

[@Salkoni]

5:15 passenger is a navigator,and reading the actual road from that paper ,and driver should be listening

[@aidan404]

If you’re interested in rally you should do a vid on Michele Mouton

[@DenUitvreter]

Yes, she was a great driver.

[@onlyonewhyphy]

5:18 - The copilot job is to say aloud what's coming up, on the track. He has every corner and more written down in coded form and tells the driver what to expect and how likely best to approach the situation coming. Rally is an unusual combination of things that makes it, and simply watching it from the side, an experience that embodies so much of the nature and psychology of men. Lots of things do this, but few like Rally. You are not safe. Not even close! Now: Get to the end and do it fastest. Some would lean toward Motorbikes, but I'm not personally into Fetish Wear and Straddling throbbing, vibrating things............

[@making_randoms]

Alot of these clips are from the 1990s. Rules for course layout regarding spectators are tighter now.

[@AHVENAN]

"Can they just use GPS?" That made me laugh so hard! Aint no GPS in the world that can give directions quickly enough to work for rally, they're going down extremly tight and twisty roads at over 100 mph, the diorections need to be on point and quick. Aso they don't just say "in xx meters, turn right, they have grades for how sharp the turns are, wether they need to watch out for obstacles in or on the side of the road, they warn the driver of every single dip, crest, jump or anything that can effect how the car behaves etc etc, it's a system and almost an artform that has been finetuned for decades, and each driver/co'driver team have their own ways of doing things too

[@thseed7]

You should check out the Pike's Peak Hill Climb. So insane. The same type of driving, but at 14,000 feet with no guard rails

[@rocketbunnysti6344]

"when in doubt flat out " collin mcrae

[@johanvanaelst8976]

Good to see you've discovered rally, the world's best drivers imo. Going down the rally rabbit hole you'll soon discover group B rally of the 80's. Better buckle up! Btw, it's safe to watch rally, you don't have to stand so close. It's just that many spectators are insane.

[@berbold]

That accent is not from the UK. It's from the Republic of Ireland. Sounds like the south west area.

[@Heldermaior]

If you want a treat, look for Sebastien Loeb's rally driving. He isnlikely the best motorsport driver ever and his dominance in the World of Rallying was absolute. If there ever was a driving God, he was it.

[@fortheloveofkitties702]

Why aren't you engaged? Or married? Those are rally cars. Very dangerous. Like Fast an the Furious. There was game for the Jaguar, called Rally something.

[@jazzochannel]

8:01 "never saw a car overtake.. is a time to race?" yes. they race huge distances. the winner is whoever has the best time. a single rally race consists of multiple legs, possibly, but not necessarily in different countries and through different terrains.

[@71Splinter]

rally spectators are nuts, when there is a jump they have been caught trying to lay under the bumb in the road. but there is one clip of colin mcrae going through hundreds of spectators and they are just about getting out the way in time.

[@moonlitegram]

It's been a little while since I've dropped by this channel. Not sure when you implemented the music suggestions at the end, but that's a fun and clever idea. Rally spectators are nuts and have death wishes. But I kind of want to experience it at least once in my (possibly shortened) life :D

[@NoProtocol]

Thanks for coming back (:

[@ericbencusmagnusfabricius3499]

Group-B rally was so dangerous drivers went on strikes to demand safety regulations xddd

[@dbell1016]

5:16 Those "Papers" are called pace notes. The driver is driving the course blind. They are actually disqualified if they see the course before the race. All of the navigators are placed on a tour bus and driven around the track. Its then up to the navigator to take notes on how sharp the turns are, any hills or bumps, any changes in road surface, etc. The Driver/Navigator team must trust each other implicitly. The winner is the navigator that took the best notes and the driver who trust his navigator enough to keep his foot on the floor until told to do otherwise. And kids today think skateboarding is an "extreme" sport. Hemmingway was right, "there are only three real sports, auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing. Anything else is a children's game played by adults."

[@ericp1203]

Group B Rally in the 80's was by far the most dangerous sport for spectators. Mostly because the spectators themselves were completely crazy. Hundreds of them were on the track itself, moving out of the way when cars came towards them. Drivers were complaining about not being able to see the road. Here's an example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKXTaWikoaiboJI

[@tattoodude8946]

Basically, rally driving is the art of driving so fast, there is no way to react and thus you have someone tell you what you will have to do before you get there. They are constantly on the edge of disaster and that makes for compelling viewing!

[@SkyForgeVideos]

As far as I understand it the Navigator has and relays instructions on the papers that describe the kind of speed, direction of turn, and what gear they should be in as they are driving cars with manual gear shifting. Kind of like if your gps was trying to give you hints on the best way to drive while giving you the directions to get there.

[@alan-]

Specifically, it's the distance between the corners/crests/chicanes, the direction and tightness of the corner, plus occasionally an additional word to describe and additional feature, such as 'tightens' or 'blind' or 'maybe'. The pace notes never include what speed or gear to use, that's down to the driver's judgement in the moment.

[@SkyForgeVideos]

@@alan- Good to know! Thanks!

[@TheGabrielPT]

Traditonally drivers from Finland are really good in rally (f1 as well). Probably it has to do with the snow there

[@Paltse]

That and the quite rigorous driver's lisence requirements. It's not like you can have one just by going around the block in the same direction once or twice.

[@sparkyfromel]

For a long time the best drivers in controlled insanity were from Finland

[@unwrittenwizard910]

your videos really should be getting more likes, i could just listen to you talk all day, your accent is lovely, and your reactions are pure.

[@tomasvrab]

It´s much safer nowadays. Spectators are officially gathered around tighter corners where the cars must slow down alot, so I´d think the Isle of man is more hardcore. Personally I went to see fast cars and was kinda disappointed to see them all slow. Its tempting to veer off to a straight and hear those engines at max.

[@johnathanmonkeysmacker420t2]

Rally cars are broken into classes ,mostly determined by the CC of the engine or its horsepower . You also have unlimited classes . They usually do things like pikes peak,Dakar and so on where there’s many more straightaways . Rally racing is complete anxiety ,and control of the anxiety . The navigator ,(passenger ) uses those papers because they have detailed instructions of every turn and straight and basically every nuance of the course memorized into code phrases . There’s a whole shorthand . A good reference would be when top gear did a special on rally racing with the goat crew of Clarkson,Hammond and,May . They actually had to utilize the code phrasing to give each other inputs . It failed of course as most things they do. But it gave good references to the why’s and how’s of the lingo . Also races are usually based on time, and other mitigating circumstances .

[@bravoA-su8xm]

best intro ever subscribed

[@R.W.KING_KONG]

A ralley car needs to be a car model which is mass produced. You can work on the car, but the car frame has to stay the same

[@szpynda]

Old and good times.

[@unclelink]

Hillclimbs are peak rally for me, pun intended!

[@dbell1016]

8:04 Yes, it is a timed race. The cars are all racing against the clock, not each other. If one car is significantly faster than another, an overtake may occure, but that dosen't normally happen. The goal is to run the course in the shortest time, making the fewest mistakes.

[@volundrfrey896]

Worth noting is that when overtakes happens it's usually because there's something wrong with the slower drivers car. They're spaced out so it shouldn't happen if everyone cars work as they should. Overtakes can be exiting in compilations but they're bad in the actual race because it's an obstacle that shouldn't be there.

[@antonironstag5085]

The accent in the first video isnt in the UK, its Irish. But I'll let it slide 😉

[@craigmurphy9862]

That first clip was Frank Kelly in the escort, some real Irish rallying to start off, he's worth a watch all on his own.

[@Jack-lk7wk]

You should react to Up to speed on colin mcrae the man was a legend of the sport

[@3thomasdm]

the papers are track notes. the driver is often driving blindly while the 'passenger' is telling what is coming next.

[@minimakgaming571]

The track thing your thinking of does exist its Rallycross, And pace notes still exist in 2024 and probably always will.. GPS wouldn't work they would probably all die, need tunnel vision to survive, I have thought in the past that head up display on the windscreen could possible work, would lose 100+ Kg with copilot and seat removed

[@mistahcahawking]

Rally is huge all over Europe, but especially so in the Nordics and Poland. The location you thought was Italy is Monte Carlo in Monaco, so close, but no cigar. You were not exactly wrong about Rally being driven on tracks, this is however its own category/championship called Rally Cross, RX for short. What you saw here was WRC, or The World Rally Championship, and yes the cars they drive are very loosely based on road going cars, in fact during events they are provided license plate stickers because the cars are driven through traffic on normal roads in-between the different stages.

[@micheldick1736]

The papers his holding are directions, tells the driver how sharp to turn and if their is a hill during the turn, and lets him know when the pavement turns to gravel and jumps and such. Everything happens extremely fast so you need a good passenger

[@jorgdosin5424]

Rally?! The Devil in on the Track and the Time is tik tik tik😈😈😈

[@darrenjones5885]

A couple of songs and a story. Prayer For The Dying by Seal, and You Saved Me by The Winery Dogs. I was 50 when the last of my grandparents died, aged 93. He had collapsed and fallen at 3:00am on a Sunday morning. I got a phone call and went round, giving him CPR until the paramedics arrived. At 6:00am they gave up. I’d known he was gone since I arrived. As the sun came up on a beautiful day I was listening to Prayer For The Dying. “I’m crossing that bridge with lessons I’ve learned. I’m playing with fire and not getting burned.” Around midday I went to see a little friend. She was 15 months old at the time. I needed to see someone with life in front of them and not behind them. What I got was remarkable. She climbed onto me where I was sat, rested her head on my shoulder, and with her right hand patted me on the back. How she knew how I was feeling is beyond me but she did everything right. You Saved Me reminds me of that time. “When sunshine turned to gray You saved me in my darkest hour You stood by me and stayed You gave me all my strength and power.”

[@Vikkalo89]

I'd recommend checking out Formula offroad in Iceland, basicly just roll cages with large V8 engines climbing sand hills. The channel "Jakob C" uploads videos from the competition here in iceland each year.

[@ryansmiley5495]

Thos is my favorite thing 😍

[@getheroutofthetruck]

Top ten Rugby League fights: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnmUXmduj5Jse7c

[@Forbidaxe]

5:13 The foresaid calculations...

[@Andy76swe]

The passenger with the papers is the Navigator

[@raiogxn]

Have you ever heard of the Cool Worlds channel? I know you're a big fan of space, and the man who runs the channel, Dr. David Kipping, is an astronomer and researcher makes amazing theories and concepts as well as documentaries such as traveling to the edge of the universe or what would happen if humanity actually did live forever. It's a channel I feel you would love.

[@ferchrissakes]

The fundamental idea in rallying is that the competitors “rally” to a destination, and whoever gets there last is a rotten egg. Or, really, whoever doesn’t get there first is a rotten egg. Originally, it was just like kids playing with souped-up cars instead of a foot race: no set course or track, and very little besides “get to this spot as fast as possible”. As it became a more organized sport you got the routes, and all the other stuff. Not closed tracks, just set routes on public roads. As others have said, the co-driver is like a fast-talking gps that the driver has to trust implicitly. The driver is essentially steering the current turn on instinct while being told about and lining up for the upcoming ones that he or she can rarely see. And yes, the cars are production cars, but obviously heavily modified (by the rules, they have to be based on a mass-produced model - which meant some manufacturers produced just enough or fudged the numbers to have a model that was great for rallying but made no sense at a car dealership, just because they wanted to win). The punishment these cars take is ridiculous. And finally, yes, the spectators are in mortal danger, though slightly less so these days. As others have said, Group B rallying was the craziest, fewest-holds-barred version. Spectators would stand on the road and jump away at the last instant, typically trying to get a head-on photo of the machine barreling at them. A mix between the running of the bulls and the Red Sea parting. One driver said he simply had to think of the people as trees, not human beings, because otherwise it’d be too scary to drive. One team found a severed finger in the radiator after a race, not sure when they’d picked it up. It’s a spectator-spectator sport IMO; I’m content watching video of others spectating in person.

[@MissCheeseE]

Have you watched Sidecar racing?

[@antivanti]

If there's a track it's rally cross. The cars are based on production cars and how much they can be modified depends on the class they're racing in. If you want to see the really crazy spectator situations you want to look up Group B Rally in the 80s

[@NoProtocol]

I plan to check out Group B next week, I’m too intrigued at this point

[@azar5255]

look up rally B it is old stuff but it was insane... Also you are amazing in so many ways.

[@ttt69420]

Perhaps you don't care, or will ever see this, but I think you would really appreciate the video Ari Vatanen - The Poet of Rallying Yes, it's a little campy, but it's truthful.

[@NoProtocol]

I’ll check it out then, thanks for suggesting (: