Group B: When Rallying Got Too Fast | First time watching, mostly stressing | reaction

First time watching Group B, when Rallying got too fast and my heart can’t take it + a literary and music recommendation. Leave your recommendations for more sports to check out on the channel!
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[@RadeticDaniel]

Famous female driver related to the video: Michelle Mouton She drove the Audi Quattro in group B, some of the footage was possibly her racing. Mouton is currently in the FIA and was responsible to organize initiatives to enable more women to have equal opportunity to compete on speed regardless of gender =)

[@Afther]

Yes!! checkout Michelle! also known as "the black volcano" and the only woman with a pikes peak title "the queen of the mountain"

[@DenUitvreter]

I remember her as just one of the 3 top drivers of that time, she earned her seat in the best car by the stopwatch, not for marketing reasons or something. I don't remember her not getting opportunities because she was a woman or being frowned upon or joked about. The stopwatch isn't sexist and she wasn't the first, Pat Moss in the 50's or 60's was a well respected rally driver too. Same for Formula1 of the 70's and 80's btw, and car racing in and since the roaring 20's. Women have been driving cars since the first car and some of them very fast, just not too many.

[@jonnyso1]

UP ! Check her out, she's a badasss

[@RadeticDaniel]

@@DenUitvreter there was at least one interview of Walter Roehrl saying it was outrageous to let her race, because motorsports was no place for women. And later in that publication he was quoted for saying the other male drivers should forfeit a stage if necessary to make a man champion, so long as it was to deny her a title. And although you are right about the stopwatch itself, we've had W Series and other initiatives to show what happens to women in motorsports with sponsors withdrawing support in the first rumours of a relationship for example. Society, unfortunately, isn't as objective and fair as the stopwatch is =)

[@pettking7137]

I just would like to add she won the 24h of Le Mans with a female only team

[@patrickdeporte289]

Hi there are female drivers; one called Michelle Mouton drove an audi quatro in the 80's and she won several races. She was French.

[@spodule6000]

Also the Simmonite sisters.

[@DenUitvreter]

She was a World Champion contender. One of the big guns in the sport for a few years, but she only made it to 2nd place in the World Championship. Only just 2nd in a season long battle if I remember correctly.

[@patrickdeporte289]

She's a legend@@DenUitvreter

[@tripsixx5802]

I’m a bit young and an American race driver but I’ve absolutely heard of Mouton! My family has German roots so for the females Sabine queen of the ring RIP she was one baaaad b behind the wheel!

[@omargj1]

Michelle Mouton "is" ( not was) since she is still alive. There is promotional Audi video from last year with her driving an old (80's) Audi Quattro "against" Lia Block driving the Audi S-1 Quattro e-tron Hoonitron, a "prototipe" modern version of the iconic Audi Quattro but electric, in San Remo, they both talking and with some aditional old videos of Mouton rallying days with Audi. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIbPc2tml7J5d9U

[@antivanti]

“They are only bushes to us-only trees; if we think these are people, we cannot drive” Walter Röhrl

[@ianbasson8367]

Michelle Mouton was a highly respected lady driver.

[@HT-io1eg]

I went to the U.K. WRC in ‘85 and ‘93

[@brucelavoie7333]

One of the more famous professional drivers is Sabine Schmitz who was called "The Queen of the Nurburgring. She was a part time racing driver who had done thousands of laps around that track. Unfortunately she passed away from cancer in 2021. One famous video of her is from her appearance on Top Gear when she drove a minivan around the "Ring". Other famous female full time race car drivers are: Janet Guthrie (Indycar and Nascar), Shirley Muldowney (Drag racing), Lyn St. James (Indycar), more recently Danica Patrick (Indycar and Nascar) to name a few.

[@RadeticDaniel]

Sabine is one of my favorite racers of all time!

[@retropaganda8442]

We're talking about Group B Rally here, not rodeo shows, so that would be Michelle Mouton.

[@CrazyhorseDK]

yeah rest easy Sabine

[@InquisitiveBaldMan]

Finland is one of the legendary Nordic countries for Rally. Lots of drivers came from Finland. BTW drivers are good from day one in Finland as they have one of the hardest driving tests. It includes, rally like car control tests, on low grip surfaces, so perhaps the endless list of great finish drivers shouldn't be surprising. The Swedes were also heavily involved and this is where the ice rallys were normally.

[@InquisitiveBaldMan]

Also the Swedish rally was literally last weekend. Next weekend is the Safari Rally in Kenya. This is also a legendary rally returning to the calendar. I think it spent about 30 years on the calendar previously.

[@MKitchen75]

I started driving car when I was eight.. I drove with my dad on private road or field to get used to handle car before going to taking driving test when I was 18..

[@MKitchen75]

And Im Finnish :D

[@esaedvik]

More to do with a lot people (mostly country folk) also driving as a kid on ice, karting etc. hobbies too. Current world rally champion, Kalle Rovanperä, drove a rally car at like age 8.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Simpler explanation is that Finns and Swedes just have money to fuck around and trash cars, probably less cops in rural ares and tons of ice with snow.

[@module79l28]

0:20 - Those were the portuguese rally fans in the 80's, the gravel clips you see with a sea of spectators in front of the cars are from Rally Portugal. 5:25 - That was Rally Kenya. A scene like that could only happen in Africa. 😄 10:52 - One small correction to the video: there were 4 deaths in that accident, not 3. Three spectators were killed on site and one of the injured died later on in the hospital. One thing Scott didn't say in the video is that the drivers who went past the crash alerted the organisers at the end of the stage and asked for the stage to be cancelled but the FIA delegates didn't let any emergency vehicle onto the stage until the last car went through. The major teams didn't immediately pull out of the rally like he said, they held a meeting at the hotel where they were staying and they wrote a protest statement against how the FIA handled the situation but the FIA ignored the protest, so the teams decided to pull out of the rally. The FIA (or should I say, its president) didn't care much about the safety of the stages and that was what eventually caused the Group B's demise.

[@Sellyei]

One of the most famous female drivers in Rally is Michelle Mouton. She drove with a lot of different cars, but her biggest success was, when she was driving for AUDI, as she was of the drivers that were driving the first ever four-wheel-drive AUDI cars. She is labelled as "The Rally Queen" and was inducted in "The Rally Hall of Fame" in 2012. There is a documentary film made about her called "Queen of Speed". She is now in FIA.

[@nigelleyland166]

Plenty of female rally drivers, the two best known most successfull were Pat Moss, sister of F! driver Sir Sterling Moss and Michelle Mouton who drove the the Audi Quatro featured in this video, the only demale Group B driver I believe.She was also a Pikes Peek winner.

[@StewartEvans52]

Louise Aitkin Walker also was a superb driver

[@gisbrei]

The Fear and Loathing movie is great, and, as far as I can remember, stays true to the book. It is wonderful to see, not only Depp and Del Toro, but the whole cast playing such bizarre characters. Gilliam was the right person to direct this movie

[@ploed]

Definitively can recommend the movie.

[@rickybuhl3176]

Looking forward to the Mouton video. "Strong female role-model" ✅ nah we didn't have them in the 80s lol Woman's a bloody legend!

[@RadeticDaniel]

About 9:40 in the video you gestured something went over your head =) Imagine you are going on a long hike and take a backpack with 2 big water bottles and a dozen cereal bars. This will help you have more energy to go the distance and improve your hiking pace compared to managing dehydration and tiredness. Now imagine you have the exact same backpack for a 100m sprint... not exactly Usain Bolt performance 😂 The backpack is the supercharger. On slow pace it helps you do better, on high pace it drags you backwards =) That's the analogy we used in a SimRacing group I was in a while ago ^_^

[@mhh7544]

I saw these cars live when I was a teen, RIP Henkka and Sergio, my rally heroes.

[@rikleblond1698]

Congratulations on getting to a 100K ;)

[@NoProtocol]

Thanks so much (:

[@mirandahotspring4019]

Rallying has been big in New Zealand for years and we've produced a few good drivers. Some say its because we like to drive fast and have crap roads. The World Rally Championship was held here first in 1977. The WRC teams voted Propecia Rally New Zealand "Rally of the Year" in 2001. The 2007 Rally New Zealand ended with the closest-ever finish in the history of the World Rally Championship. After over 350 competitive kilometres, only 0.3 seconds separated the winner Marcus Grönholm and second-placed Sébastien Loeb.

[@Bjorgolf553]

I worked with a girl white dad was the mechanic for the Ford RS2000 (the one who hit the spectators in Portugal). Her dad told her that when Joaquim Santos got into the team box, he was in shock. He said that he lost control of the car when he tried to avoid some spectators and the crash happened to fast he couldn't even react. I believe he stoped racing for a couple of years after that.

[@MrBanaanipommi]

The car was rs200 not 2000

[@Bjorgolf553]

@@MrBanaanipommi dang, mixed them up 😅

[@oddpoppetesq.3467]

5:39 ish, dang... Dudes leg nearly got taken out 😂 the joys of rally spectating 🥰

[@fuselpeter5393]

Jutta Kleinschmidt is a successful female driver from Germany that won in the Paris Dakar Rallye. She also raced in many other categories.

[@Pyllymysli]

Michele Mouton! The Queen of Speed! One of my favorite sports stories overall. She drove during this insane group B era, met a lot of doubt, belittling and even ridicule, and she shoved it up all of their asses by just being that frickking fast. To this date she is working around motorsports and females in motorsports. She is a true rally legend!

[@ClashClash89]

3:53 "what about the ice" well... they had spiked tires, if i ain't mistaken. and the drivers, ... are good examples of the fact that madness and genius are often 2 sides of the same coin... If you haven't seen much Rally-stuff, you might wanna check out the "Dakar rally" (former "Paris-Dakar Rally"). They are racing bikes, quads (for a few years by now), cars, trucks, UTVs and "classics" (pre 2000 vehicles) through the desert. I'd argue that it's not only a race with a long and proud tradition (since 1977), but also *breathtakingly beautiful*, seeing fat Rally-Dirtbikes tearing through the dunes of the sahara (till 2007), atacama (2009-2019) and Saudi Arabia (since 2020), from a bird eye perspective. The whole event takes about 2 weeks, and consists of off-road rally-stages, and regular road transit stages (which aren't televised, cuz they are not racing on those segments, and even get penalties if they drive too fast). this is a nice short video (4 min) of the bikes in the early 2000s. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGPKgqCbZ7p8eqcsi=C6SleRIxADrzU7k2 that video brought a tear of joy to the corner of my eyes, more then once... And a big plus point for you, would probably be, the fact, that there are way less spectators at the dakar rally stages. So less anxiety and pucker-factor ^^) Also worth a look: - "Red Bull Romaniacs". Just hard-enduros shredding through the carpathian mountains for 3 days. Technically, very demanding on the riders, and open to amateurs. Good example on how demanding the race is, is the "prologue" event in Sibiu, where they build a tough-as-nails trial-course in the city, so that people can watch live and in person. And there are female riders in the field as well (Sandra Gomez being one of the more noteworthy). full recap of the 2023 event: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn-2kH-BmMmMbpIsi=q_RtYkBvGa-2e0Qg a female perspective on the Romaniacs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqnckmCso9KWma8 (mostly talk, very little racing, hardly worth a reaction video imho) - "Red Bull Erzberg Rodeo" again Dirtbikes, and only a weekend, but they drive through an old iron mine, straight up and down the walls of that pit ^^D Also open to amateurs and including female riders (if i ain't completely mistaken). 2-minute video, including the massive dirtbike convoy of race-participents and fans through the neighbouring village: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6vclJt3q7Njqposi=mxxx70aaW929QWf3 25-minutes of Jonny Walker's PoV: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2TQfGubhayLbpYsi=VV4CWH7DWsUKnDDD

[@dmouse451]

There are many good short docs on Michelle Mouton(Grp B Audi) , but you might like a long form doc called "Queen of Speed" 2021 (1.5hrs) - Also see her Pike Peak run or "Dance to the clouds"

[@hugovilag]

There's the sound of these cars. Nothing comes close. I'm incredibly lucky to be able to see a few of them every year at some historical events. If they decide it's time to hammer it you feel it in your bones. The S1 E2 quattro and 205 T16 are unbelievable under full acceleration, no video will ever do justice to them. Just hope the Delta S4 confirmed to attend this year's Rallyspirit gives some beans to that monster.

[@seijika46]

The Monte Carlo Rally used to be amazing back in the day as drivers would start at far corners of Europe and converge in Monaco making it a test of endurance as well as a race. Also, a surprisingly dangerous 'sport' near my old home is Cheese Rolling - both men and women do it and its gotten a surprising number of international victors.

[@antivanti]

Michelle Mouton was a very successful female rally driver. The video on how Audi took their car to Pike's Peak Hill Climb in the US after Group B was ended is great. People laughed and said 4WD was too heavy and they'd have no chance...

[@arnepietruszewski9255]

The movie "Fear and loathing in Las Vegas" is awesome. One of Johnny Depp's best roles. Lot's of other star actors too.

[@dougj7295]

The crowds with the dynamics of how these cars handle is insane. It's the kind of event you want to expericence live just one time

[@Ned-Ryerson]

"you" definitely excludes me!

[@Alex.The.Lionnnnn]

Plenty of spectators got injured, and some killed. It was utter insanity. Can you imagine if someone tried to set this up now?!?

[@fenreg1]

I think it was either Mouton or Rohrl who said of the spectators in a documentary years later that "you have to pretend they are not people, they are trees. And of course, you don't want to hit the trees" I'm just old enough to have seen the second-last Group B rally there ever was, back in November 1986 - I assume my dad didn't let 8 year old me get quite as close to the action as some of these people did...

[@Mortimuss]

Races are broken into stages. The technology developed in racing is astounding. It’s shocking how many innovations have been developed in auto racing. Not without a lot of tragedy.

[@_BangDroid_]

Everyone saying Michele Mouton, yep that's one. I think she might be sad to know her name is basically the only name people can recall when asked about famous female drivers, considering her mission. But it's the same thing as other sports and Bill Burr said it best.

[@mornestreams9825]

Your videos are pretty legit. I like your quest for knowledge! Keep it up

[@dlions9068]

You should see some group B on board videos to see what the crowds look like from within the car. Those drivers were 20--30 meters away from a wall of people, flat out. Group B was brutal, but that's part of what made it so special.

[@houghi3826]

20 - 30 centimetres. If that. Many tried to even touch the car

[@Trusteft]

I remember watching on TV the news about both the final deadly accident and then the announcement of the ban of the Group B. As a kid I was disappointed. To this day the Audi Quattro remains my favorite rally car.

[@mrbusto7]

If you enjoyed this topic, Jeremy Clarkson has a segment from The Grand Tour that tells a more in-depth story about the rivalry between Lancia and Audi that's really well done. The full clip is on KZbin here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIuck5yHebuNibssi=cHT8nxzP0odn6hjf (though it does have hardcoded Portuguese subtitles). Highly recommend!

[@heros2110]

I drive an 80s car and one from 2014. It's remarkable how far they have been already in the 80s.

[@akcars7363]

Michelle mouton known for her Audi days known as the queen of quatro. Her Peugeot days were her best

[@paiute6911]

Actually WRC Sweden was last week. The drivers were operating during heavy snowfall. Next is the Safari Rally Kenya 28-31 March.

[@LucvValen]

WRC is not real rallying, even though it's rally sport. Group B was real rallying.

[@adamcichon6957]

​@@LucvValen i will annoy you so much right now, hahaha.... Group B wasn't true rallying... True rallying was at 1960s and 1970s, rally routes were several thousand kilometers long and led through several countries at once. The most insane was 1968 London Sydney marathon, 16,694 kilometers (10,373 miles). That was true rallying, ha ha ha.

[@MrGunnar69]

@@adamcichon6957 I'm going to annoy you even more. Real rally is when I'm late for work.🤣🤣🤣

[@adamcichon6957]

@@MrGunnar69 been there... done that... not impressed... it's not worth the hussle 😆

[@derrickmurithi3319]

The Safari Rally is one of the greatest rally circuits in history. We enjoyed spectating growing up.

[@nigeldepledge3790]

A little context might help here. Rallying started out as a time challenge on public roads. It wasn't about who could go faster; it was about who could finish closest to a target time. However, at some point (maybe in the '60s?), the concept of special stages was introduced. These were stages fitted in between road sections where the intent was to record the fastest time through the stage. Thus, to win you had to be fast in the special stages and precise on the road sections. The navigator (often now called the co-driver) had the task of working out the best speed and route on road sections in order to hit the target time at each checkpoint as accurately as possible. However, through the '70s, the special stages took on more significance, because they started to draw in big crowds. The crowd control issues on some rallies (Portugal was the worst, but the same type of crowd behaviour would be seen on other rallies in southern Europe; not so much in places like Sweden, Finland or the UK) was something that the drivers repeatedly complained about; and something that the respective authorities could not fix or chose not to fix. This problem already existed in the '70s, but Group B attracted more spectators to the special stages, which meant the problem got worse. For the drivers, it was awful - they wanted to drive competitively, but were also aware of how close they had to pass to the crowds at speed. In some places, it became a point of pride for spectators to actually touch the car as it went past. In the Group B era, the road sections were little more than a formality : you had to reach a checkpoint by a certain time, but the accuracy with which you paced your journey was no longer measured. You could still be knocked out by arriving late, but there wasn't any noticeable penalty for arriving too early. It was all about speed on the special stages. Incidentally, in his video, Scott calls it "racing", and Americans seem always to have called it racing; but you'd never hear a European call a rally a "race" in the '70s or '80s. This is because it isn't a race in any but the loosest sense. It's more accurately a time trial, run in stages, with road sections in between, but it differs from a time trial in that the road sections also (used to) matter.

[@ruk2023--]

I think you would enjoy a video about the pacenotes rally co-drivers make and use to navigate the stage. The instructions will be something like left 1 or left 6 (6 being a very tight curve and 1 being an easy one) and the driver uses these notes to control their pace rather than any real visibility of the road ahead.

[@operator0]

Driver 61 is a former Formula 1 driver. He's currently part of a team attempting to build a course where he can drive a Formula 1 car upside down. In case you aren't aware, Formula 1 cars can create so much aerodynamic force downward that they could, in theory, drive upside down if the speed is fast enough. Every racing fan has wondered if it would be possible to create a course to do this, and now it looks as if someone with very deep pockets is going to try, and Driver 61 is going to be the driver.

[@HeavyPhoton]

Hey, I am from Portugal and rally was a real thing for us in the eighties and nineties. Unfortunately, several accidents happened. I know Sintra and its mountain range. Windy roads. When I was a kid, we spent summer vacations picking pear and other fruits to get some cash together to buy an old car, that we took turns at night (because cops). Best female driver? A good friend of mine. She beat my record on the track with a slightly modified Datsun 1200cc. Same we all used. Michelle Button, yes, awesome driver, but there are unsong heroes still around. Those were the days.

[@HFrizzler]

The sound of that Audi 5cyl... amazing

[@IanDarley]

Legendary female driver - Michele Mouton world-class driver - well worth checking out, my teenage crush.

[@antivanti]

There are different types of stages in Rally. Special Stage - A route on closed roads where they race the clock Transport Stage - They have to drive between special stages on public roads Super Special Stage - Any special stage that differs in characteristics from the other stages of the Rally. Very short racing stages in arenas with parallel tracks and jumps and stuff for example

[@JohnyAngelo]

80s were crazy like this in motorsport you had Rally group B without limits and also Formula 1 was the most limitless at the time... crazy times.

[@wilgarcia1]

A race is divided in to stages where they aren't even all the same day.

[@-a6833]

I'm just gonna repeat what the rest of the comments say, Michele Mouton :) She might have no championships in her name but she drove several very clean races, also she has several victories in her name.. There's a short documentary on youtube where they interview her present day and they look back at old footage of the acropolis rally in greece, it's super interesting.. It was before my time, but I've seen some old rallys and the acropolis rally particularly stood out

[@klaus2t703]

Women in rallye: Jutta Kleinschmitt as first woman won the Rallye Dakar. She also had a female co-driver Tina Thörner.

[@Lightkie]

Nobody else mentioned her or liked your comment - strange! At least you got noticed by No Protocol.

[@guido69x]

Im from Portugal!My arts Teacher was one of the persons on the crowd that got hit!Gotta had his knee caps removed!Check the good old Rally de Portugal Sintra ;) Cheers from Portugal

[@antivanti]

Supercharger vs Turbocharger: Different types of air compressors to push air at higher pressure into the engine meaning more oxygen to burn more fuel and thus more power. Supercharger is mechanically driven by the engine which means it produces boost even at low RPM but looses efficiency at higher RPMS whereas a turbo uses the pressure from the exhaust to drive it so only starts producing boost when there's more exhaust at higher RPM but doesn't lose efficiency.

[@Mike-rw2nh]

This marvellous channel of yours has just touched on one of the craziest periods in motor sport. 👍👍👍

[@stresslesspropertysolution466]

The cars went on to be used in Rally Cross which was safer for both driver and spectator, definitely worth a watch.

[@scottdebruyn7038]

FYI... Super charger and turbo charger both do the same thing... increase the air pressure at the intake of the cylinders making more air (with it's contained oxygen) enter the combustion chamber on each stroke of the pistons. This does require more fuel to keep combustion mixture correct for the most complete burn and maximum power. They refer to this increase in pressure as 'boost'. The difference between 'super' and 'turbo' 'charging is the way the pressure is obtained. A super charger drives an air pump with a belt off the crankshaft of the engine directly while a turbo charger uses the exhaust gasses coming out of the engine to drive a turbine directly connected on the same shaft to drive a second turbine to compress the air. Both can boost the engine horsepower output 50-300% depending on the engine's displacement, engineering and of course its durability, as, 'blowing up' an engine becomes quite easy. 😲😁 'Turbo lag' referred to in the video is due to lower exhaust gas speed and pressure at low engine speed not providing as much energy to drive the turbine. So, when you first 'punch' the throttle, the turbine isn't spinning as fast and doesn't produce as much boost until the exhaust gasses start to increase with the engine speed. This produces the 'lag' as the turbine 'spins' or 'spools' up. Pretty simple, in that it's just shoving more into the engine to burn to get more power out, yet while complicated in making that work without destroying the engine by demanding too much of it.

[@AboveSomething]

I've been obsessed by the song "Letter from America" by The Proclaimers lately.. such a banger!

[@adarael]

You know, this channel is so much fun because it's always something new and different. But I legit did not except a Group B video. So fucking insane, and it was how I fell in love with Rally racing.

[@stefanwiechmann4808]

A famous female rallye driver was Michelle Mouton (hopefully I wrote her right). She drove one of the Audi Quattros 😊

[@mikeymoo1291]

these guys are the real talent. They could all do F1. Not many F1 drivers could do this though. I remember seeing David Coulthard in the passenger seat once. He wanted to get out and walk home and turned down another invitation.

[@gordowg1wg145]

Yes, there are two types of stages - the first are road stages which join the second, which are special stages. For the first, which are open, public roads with normal traffic they have to drive within the speed limits, obey road rules, etc, and are given a maximum (and IIRC, a minimum) time to get from one special stage to the enxt. For the second the roads are closed to traffic, and several 'course cars' are driven through to check for any problems of people that shouldn't be on the roads, then the competition cars are sent through at 1, 2 or 3 minute intervals with the time taken for these stages added up, plus any penalties, for an overall time that decides the winner and other placings.

[@rustug75]

Racing: Sabine Schmitz was a German professional motor racing driver and television personality. She was The Queen of the Nurburgring. 80's music: Talking Heads (Watch any live performance from the concert film "Stop making sense"); Siouxsie and the Banshees - Cities in Dust; Killing Joke - Love Like Blood; Nina Hagen - Unbeschreiblich Weiblich.

[@Robin6512]

I grew up in de 80’s with class B rally! What great times

[@rogerholder5731]

Louise Cook is a British female rally car driver and she has a KZbinr “ cookie and cars “

[@lindacooper9567]

Michelle Moulton. She was an Audi driver and as far as I'm concerned she was world champion, and beautiful too

[@CD-Gaming]

Michelle Mouton was a huge name in Rallying, but you also have Sterling Moss's sister, Pat! There's a couple still doing the rounds today, in fact, I think there's a lady competing this season, if I'm not mistaken! And you got nothing of how crazy the crowds got, they would often reach out to physically TOUCH the cars as they drove past, at one point, in Services, theyactaully fished out FINGERS from the Delta S4's air intake! There's a guy online, a Brit, who covers motorsport stories called Aiden Millward, he has this lovely image of some bloke in Argentina, missing three fingers, but grins like a lunatic whenever Group B is brought up! Also, one thing that he didn't cover, there were actually three things that killed Group B: the crazy spectators, the ludicrous length of the stages and and how difficutl the cars could be to drive! The true cause of Toivenen's remains up for debate to this day, he'd been ill, so they don't know if he were even still conciuos when his S4 left the road! Also, the Quattro's front end heaviness came from how far forward the engine actually was, they joked it was so far forward it sat half a mile in front of the headlights! Also, you should see the concept cars they came up with for Group S, Group B's mental little brother!

[@Calilasseia]

Your next mission, should you choose to accept it, is to watch footage of the Isle of Man TT. Motorcycle racing on public roads at 200 mph plus. Sometimes the riders take the corners at 160 mph, with lean angles greater than 45°. The circuit soans the entire island, including a mountain stage, and is around 38 miles long. The race covers six laps of that circuit, and the fastest riders cover one lap in under 17 minutes. In one hilarious clip, on board cameras fitted to Michael Dunlop's racing bike pick up a helicopter in the distance carrying a TV crew filming the race. As you watch, he catches up with the helicopter. Bear in mind that because the race is run on public roads, there are lamp posts, litter bins, trees and the walls outside people's front gardens to crash into. Make a mistake at 200 mph on this circuit and the undertaker has to reassemble you. But the maddest of all is the TT sidecar racing. Watching that might just be a tad too much for you. But if it isn't, watch the sidecar passenger use his buttocks as a brake pad at 160 mph.

[@timp8843]

Reminds me of the dirt roads when I was young. I always loved going fast!

[@pmenzel86]

Fun "fact" (nobody is sure if it's true, but it may well be): fans used to try to touch the cars as they went by, to the point that mechanics reported finding fingers in air intakes!

[@lalilulelo1989]

You're right, 80s music goes very well with this 😂 There is a video I like here on youtube called Group B - The Age of the Supercar

[@itsmebatman]

80ies racing was wild, not just in Rally. Formula 1 also had some crazy stuff going on, so did endurance racing. And then there was power boat racing. All of those were incredibly dangerous. But they really pushed the limits back then.

[@kd5ctt]

Charlie Christina Martin is a female racer in England. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is both an amazing movie and book.

[@goaway152]

Beautiful Woman with an even more beautiful mind. never gets old watching you learn and learning with you. ^-^

[@Crespwnian]

Sweeeeet was hoping you'd look at a video about Group Bm it's something i grew up with so it's cool to see people revisit this some what "forgotten" Era of racing

[@EdMac40]

I actually have zero interest in racing videos, but I will always watch any vids to which you react, especially those that make you smile. For instance, at 9:44 of this one, I can pretty much see all 48 of your teeth. (I know. I know. Don't say it.) As many others have noted, your smile can light up a room. As always, love ya.

[@donallmccrudden4812]

Congrats on 100k:) michelle mouton, shes a very respected but under rated driver, true legend of racing, shes definitely worth checking out

[@robertlonsdale5326]

Pikes peak is in America. Michelle Moulton was a talanted women.

[@MrLarsgren]

group B was out of this world. your face expression says it all. you look like you spotted a unicorn XD and that pretty smile... perfect.

[@skillaxxx]

I've been waiting for (this) Group B content since the previous rally video, thank you !!! Also: Michele Mouton, the fastest woman alive 💪

[@NoProtocol]

I was curious as to if there were female drivers! Watching a video on her now

[@skillaxxx]

@@NoProtocol She's amazing, especially given the time period, she was even so close to winning the WC in the hardest rally class ever. Missed out on it due to technical failure 3 stages before the end...

[@markbayles7840]

The BBC did a really good documentary on group b, definitely worth a watch

[@Maya_Ruinz]

The Audi Quattro has one of the best sounding engines ever, with that air pressure sound coming from the turbo it sounds incredible.

[@tonyscott56]

Yes, the course is a series of 'stages', and each 'Rally' is usually (if not always) maybe up of a series of stages, all run over a period of time, each with sometimes unique requirements (like 'stages 1-2, no working on the car between stages'...2-4, 1 hr repair/tune time between stages' and so on. It's a very cool and unique form of motorsport. Enjoyed the video!

[@charlielynes]

A genuinely nice video. Fantastic topic and an excellent presentation. It makes a refreshing change from the usual overblown Brah! Presentations. Chapeau 💚 🙏

[@TheAlja]

Female drivers, Michelle Mouton was a good rally driver, Sabine Schmitz was the queen of the Nürburgring. Checking her out is worth it. But there is a lot of footage, as she was driving tourists around the track and there are countless videos of that, not all in great quality. BMW unscripted is nice to get to know her.

[@wimleybuckets]

The street car rule was abused, too. (I paused early, maybe it comes up in the video.) But one of my favorite cars of all-time, the Lancia Stratos, was a beast in Group B circuit. But it really didn't belong there by the spirit of the rules. They did make a street version; but only a handful were made-just under 500 of them. And they were as bare bones as you could get. The street version was really only produced (and literally engineered backward from the rally version) so the racing version would qualify.

[@mrPCEmilkman]

I was lucky enough to see group B twice in 1985 and 1986 during the WRC Olympus Rally. They raced in the woods behind my house in Capital Forest, Washington State, just outside Olympia. There were even a few road stages through downtown Olympia. I still have a ton of photos I took of the rally, my parents had bought me a Kodak Disk camera, lol. It was quite the experience.

[@ispbrotherwolf]

Hi, I have Subscribed for some time. I like your way to look at different topics. Like in this, you understand how much physics is into Rally. Keep it up, best regards from Sweden

[@rudymorganti7155]

The good old days. Great reaction young lady.💯❤️🇮🇹

[@hexcrab7344]

I just loooove your intros, actually thank you for them.

[@user-qy9bf7wd1j]

Yes there are also female Rally Pilots like Michèle Mouton, Catie Munnings, Christine Giampaoli Zonca, Jutta Kleinschmidt, Molly Taylor, Burcu Çetinkaya.... Depends on the Rally , there are regional rallies, , national rallies , and the world rally cup , the world rally cup is mostly over and across europe , but can also sometimes be on other continents as well, yes the WRC has to drive very different regions and different stages, also some are on a parking lot called special stage or in the night There also special rallies like rally tour events Paris to Dakar for exsample. There also Rallies where you are only allowed to drive one type of car like only small fiat or only old timers or only trucks, or only buggies and so on.. some are mixed , the WRC is the highest class and regulated , in the WRC they drive like in the formula one on full weekend more stages in a location after that somewhere else in the world over whole year like formula 1

[@nunosilva5440]

"dividing the red sea" ... yeah!! we , portuguese, are nuts ... :P ... and i still remember the Santos accident on the news when i was a kid....

[@Britcarjunkie]

Dunno if anybody mentioned it, but one rule of rallying, was that for each make & model of car to be raced, at least 200 identical (right down to the engines) cars had to be sold to the public! These were some great times in auto racing: Group B, IMSA GTP/Group C endurance cars, the World Touring Car Championship, the turbo F-1 years... Another series of videos that you'll find to be hilarious, was when Group 44, Inc., took some Audi Quattro sedans, hired some rally drivers, and entered the SCCA Trans Am series...🤣😅😂

[@ShawnHinck]

Engineering explained has a lot of good videos on F1 and the engineering that goes in to them, as does driver 61, but engineering explained’s video on the F1 v10s is an amazing watch talking about how they got them raving up around 20k RPMs

[@rikardottosson1272]

Stage is a section of road. There are also transport stages where you see rally cars drive at the speed limit between special stages. (I.e. as you are in traffic to get to the next stage to spectate, you can be overtaken by a few race cars)

[@egr0eg]

You've wondered about driving on ice, the tyres have small metal studs(spikes) providing required traction

[@charlesf2804]

This makes me think of "more is better, forget the possible problems" somehow. The race (no pun intended) to build faster cars doesn't appear to have taken the risks for negative outcomes into account with the lighter weights and increased power of the cars. I can't think of many race- or car-related songs; the only ones coming to mind are Aretha Franklin's "Freeway of Love" ('80s); Deep Purple (again) with "Highway Star" ('70s); and "Little Deuce Coup" or "Fun, Fun, Fun" by The Beach Boys ('60s).

[@adamcichon6957]

People are saying that Group B was true rallying. They are wrong! True rallying was at 1960-1970s, the route of one rally was several thousand kilometers long and led through several countries at once. And the cars were, in fact, almost stock. There was no roll cages, just bit better brakes, shocks, additional lights, bucket seats, aviation 4 point harnesses, some co-driver instruments... That was true extreme rallying. The longest rally was 1968 London - Sydney marathon, 16,694 kilometers. Rally of three continents: Europe, Asia and Australia.

[@Baiko]

Modern rally is incredibly safe, if you think about how fast they're going through country roads. Comparing to 80s, when there were 13 fatalities of either the driver or the co-driver, there has been 5 total fatalities since the year 1990. 2 individual spectators have died in that same period.

[@johnyoung9822]

One of the best group b rally drivers was a woman called Michele mouton and her female co-driver were formidable

[@icetech6]

Thanks for doing rally videos... i still watch WRC, it's easily the best racing in the world..

[@jeffreyalston8647]

Michele Mouton arguably “IS” the greatest rally car driver of all time. And I believe she has the most wins of any woman in motor sports.

[@GiampietroDiSanto]

The clips are from Italy, Monte Carlo, Sweden (the snowy stage), Finland, Portugal. Group B was the apex of engineering but it went too far: too much power, too light cars and no safety rules whatsoever for either the drivers or the crowd. Lancia produced a monster: Delta S4 (4 WD with some 800 HP in the most extreme configuration, a crazy 100hp/100kg ratio) was so fast that it's speculated that when tried on the F1 circuit of Estoril for testing, it made a lap time comparable to some F1 cars of the time. Now imagine such a beast on gravel or snow and you have an idea of how difficult and dangerous it was.