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[@Rahuldantu]

Received my Samsung Galaxy Edge 4 14" X1E80100 with an NP940XMA motherboard, about an hour ago. After couple of firmware /BIOS updates and couple of Windows Updates to 24H2 for ARM64), with two 4K monitors, BT Keyboard, I installed Citrix Workspace, MS Office and started working on office stuff. Man, its amazingly FAAAASSSSTTTTT!!!!! I love the experience so far. Installed Chrome / ARM and the score for Speedometer 3 is 26.5. Jetstream 2 score of 287. Connected to 6 shared network drives and the usual. Man I am very happy to have this laptop. It is totally worth it.

[@daddyarnav69]

Hi do you face any problems saying virus scan failed while downloading apps?

[@YouGotPropofol]

Liar.

[@ighayinosayi]

How significant is the battery life upgrade?

[@nyambe]

What are BIOS updates?

[@Rahuldantu]

@@nyambeFirmware same thing ..

[@sasakanjuh7660]

Looking forward to Linux test :) EDIT: Btw, seems like Just Josh is doing it live right now :)

[@ickyteify]

Looking forward to upgrading to a better superior Operating System, Linux. Would like to know what issues and hopefully none in running Linux either on the System Storage or off a USB external drive.

[@damnhatesyou]

Right, I don’t care about windows benchmarks they are meaningless

[@movax20h]

Not everything works on Linux yet. I would wait until kernel 6.11. so maybe 2-3 months for final pieces to set it. Also it is unclear what is the Mesa status (but we should know in few days probably). But Qualcom engineers already merged almost everything, and very few things remain (like external display port support, and some deep sleep / power saving, and possible webcam improvements) in review and works. But most stuff works.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

@@ickyteify I'm also holding out until we know issues with battery, wifi, bluetooth etc are resolved with Linux. No way am I going to be running Windows on one of these babies. Linux Master Race

[@wassim-akkari]

@@LarsRyeJeppesen Totally agree can't run Microsoft abomination called Windows on that hardware!

[@cherryinc.]

I believe ARM architecture is the future of computing. Its energy efficiency and performance capabilities make it an ideal choice for a wide range of applications. Again Thank you so much for your videos(i LOVED this format!!!)❤

[@alvarorq793]

I'm curious if it's going to be possible to work as a .NET developer with Visual Studio, SQL Management Studio, and all the stuff.

[@alejob54]

Yes, both of the applications run in Win 11 arm. Not to build .NET Framework applications but .NET Core and .NET 5/6/7/8. In addition, you can use tools like Vistual studio code and Azure Data Studio for database management. For MacBook M1/M2/M3 you can use VSCode and Azure Data Studio as well, but to host a Sql Server database you can do it through a Docker Desktop instance.

[@roberthuff3122]

'A Swarm of Nerds'! A sequel to 'Lord of the Flies.' Truly terrifying and ultimately self-defeating.

[@rezaulkarim7703]

The Samsung Galaxy book has a X-Elite 84100 model where the Microsoft surface has X-Elite 80100. I think there's a difference between the E84100 and E80100 models in terms of clock speed and boos frequency.

[@deangrande7002]

Speedometer result was 25.4 on my M1 Macbook Pro... still not bad for the older gen which is a couple of years old now

[@RealtyWebDesigners]

30 on my M1 Max

[@FlorinArjocu]

The NumPad is the most useful thing when working with numbers. Removing it is the thing I hate tge most, having design over function. It is a complete hell to work in spreadsheets without it. Microsoft changed the UI. Used to be very simple, when clicking the battery in the Tray Area you had the power profiles there to just click on them. Quite annoying to have it changed. For some reason they have also hidden the extra power profiles, very awkward. Until now, this whole Snapdragon X Elite noise seems to be a bit dissapointing. Even the battery seems to have dropped a few percents in 10 minutes. Right now I am more eager to see the next Intel coming this year, in Q3, it should be quite a bit better than any previous x86. Also much more efficient.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Why don't you get an external wireless numbers pad? That would get you a large, easy-to-tap device. Much better than cramped up keyboard to make smace for a tiny numb pad on the laptop.

[@FlorinArjocu]

@@LarsRyeJeppesen Because it is like a "dongle" you have to carry with you, take care of, connect etc. If it is a wired one it takes a port, if it is bluetooth, it might mess with the wireless headphones etc. I have a huge free space on both sides of the keyboard for some reason (cost cut + "design"), there was plenty of room to integrate it. Sure, a 13'' laptop has a problem, but beyond 15'', you've got plenty of room for that numpad.

[@gordonpearce]

For an interesting performance test you can install Miniconda in Windows (x64) and WSL Linux (aarch64). Then run the same Python test on both.

[@hajjex_9086]

Hey Alex. I have a video idea that I think no one tried until now because...well the chips just came out 😂. As you usually do, you are one of the KZbinrs that try to run and compare unity/unreal engine performance on different machines. An idea came up to my mind. Since we all know that...those new chips aren't quite capable graphics wise, why don't we try using an eGPU? Would it work? And is it going to be cost effective or not worth it at all? Thanks!

[@AZisk]

egpu isn’t supported right now, unfortunately

[@grcigar9911]

Looking forward to future insight into most robust build quality laptop in this new category…i.e. for (pre)teen age students. I know this is why certain chrome devices have been sought after as they can take a beating.

[@thripnixe]

Edge is available for mac , for the most fair comparison you should install Edge on mac and run benchmarks again

[@BrockGunterSmith]

On my old M1 MacBook Pro running Microsoft Edge I get a score of 27.4 to 28.1 whereas in Safari I get 32.4 to 33.3. On my M4 iPad Pro I get 35.5 to 35.8. Interesting range of results.

[@TheRealMafoo]

Thank you for this. I was a little late to the party. However if I was there, I would have asked to see the bios screens on these.

[@ernestoditerribile]

The Lenovo is the most interisting one my girlfriend is still working on a 2022 Yoga 7 14IAL7 82QE009YMH, My MacBook Pro16" M2 Max runs circles around it. I hope the new Lenovo will come a whole lot closer

[@YouGotPropofol]

All this Ai stuff, really ruining a clean OS.

[@eds464]

At the 1 hour 44 min mark you say the battery ( and that it’s not ideal) and it’s estimated at 2 hours left. It’s plugged in to the monitor I think that will contribute to battery drainage.

[@noQuestionsAllowed]

please do ubuntu compatibility and performance tests

[@karmatraining]

What I'm really interested to see is whether these new chips will run apps that require chipset-specific things like SSE or MMX (or CUDA). A lot of "serious" apps out there and a lot of games use those specific technologies and I can't see how an ARM machine could emulate them.

[@CPU-Z]

Different models of the Snapdragon X Elite exist : X1E 78 100, X1E 80 100 and X1E 84 100. The 3 are 12 cores models, but differ in the max clock speed they can reach (in ST, MT@2C, MT@12C). The 84 is the fastest, and at a moment Qualcomm named it "Pro". Thus the "Pro" you can see in cpuz. Now it is possible that QC changed its mind in the meantime.

[@AndreLuizSilva]

When you decided to download chrome, it was already in the 64 bits version, then you switched to 32 bits and in the bottom there was a link to the 64 bits again.

[@martin22336]

Let him cook. He is not giving you an advertisement its a review. Hell yeah.

[@anonymoususer8604]

Have you tried adjusting haptic settings of the trackpad on the Surface? You can configure different clicks in settings.

[@shivanshuraj7175]

Do a cpp build bench with ninja gcc clang msbuild.also do a opengl benchmark.And kindly also consider rust build times

Thank you for this review

[@l.bogdan1360]

I am looking forward to your future test videos 😂. Qualcomm announced that they will release drivers for the linux kernel. PyTorch, LLMs, and compile times for Java, JS are on my list 😅 of demands

[@movax20h]

Qualcomm is upstreaming Linux stuff for this system since last year. They are doing pretty well and are open about it. There is a presentation last month from Qualcomm Linux team.

[@l.bogdan1360]

@@movax20h If it saves me from the pain of maintaining nvidia drivers :)) I'm all in for future linux arm laptops

[@comrade_rahul_1]

For the touchpad to work correctly, you need to complete all the updates in the Settings. It's a windows thing.

[@AZisk]

touchpad worked out of the box just fine. then it suddenly stopped working. now it’s working again after reboot.

[@comrade_rahul_1]

@@AZisk Usually, Windows updates get some type of drivers, download them in the background and wait for a restart to apply update for the touchpad. This is the solution that always worked for me when I'm facing issues with gestures or clicks etc.,. So I suggested it.

[@AZisk]

@@comrade_rahul_1ok gotcha! thanks

[@comrade_rahul_1]

@@AZisk Haha. No mentions 😊. Waiting for your tests on Battery Life and Linux ✌🏻.

[@Ibrahimhoodk-ni1pg]

What's your take on the surface laptop's build quality and overall design?

[@andrewdunbar828]

Windows doesn't have a default locale. They have a policy of "English is just another language". They did this to make sure their l10n/i18n wouldn't be half-arsed.

[@andrewdunbar828]

Which doesn't mean there isn't a mechanism for OEMs to set up the Windows installers they ship to have a default locale for their intended market. Or whether all OEMs use the mechanism if it does exist.

[@ScottGrunwald]

Wondering how Docker Works right now with these new arm machines? Does it run fast and reliable under WSL2?

[@AZisk]

so far i can tell you that it runs :)

[@dmug]

Listening to this while editing a video. I really want to get my hands on one of these to compare against my M1 Max.

[@jikkentomato7751]

Reminds me a of an application that can guess what is being typed by the sound of the keyboard.

[@RA85232]

Just ran 3DMark (Time Spy) on my Surface Laptop 7 (16GB, 1TB), got a 1674 for graphics and 5296 for Physics Score. Total 3DMark score of 1865

[@eltamarindo]

Geekbench 6 below the base M3 MacBook Pro and M3 MacBook Air in single-core and below the base MacBook Pro M2 in multi-core.

[@FullStackDevAndNetworks]

Check if hard drive encryption and recall are enabled and test it with those disabled

[@EZBlast]

Getting my Lenovo on the 24th of this month

[@natieklopper]

Can you please check Android development? Android Studio Canary with a basic Pixel 3 emulator, just compile the basic template “blank activity” project and run on emulator. See if the emulator lags at all, and see if it’s arm based emulator like they use for MacOs

[@c-tech_]

Nice trackpad indeed

[@AZisk]

still having problems with mine

[@RazoBeckett.]

I want to see that running Arch btw

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Linux Master Race

[@lgabss187]

I love the live format

[@movax20h]

Hope we will get 64GB model with high res oled of Lenovo Thinkpad. All promising. Not spectacular, but not too bad honestly.

[@bilalahsan678]

the Apple's unboxing excitement has arrived to PC World

[@atechdude]

Recall got spanked due to security concerns from what I have seen. Something about an issue with being able to get elevated permissions with Token injections and steal all of your metadata that recall OCR's

[@stringbreaker87]

How's that screen on the Surface compared to the Macbook, I have the MBP 16-in M1 pro and was thinking of getting this for some edge AI development.

[@MrW0rDs]

might be a super niche request, but can we emulate macOS with decent performance on this new ARM processor?

[@martin22336]

I was thinking about that. It would be perfect.

[@whitestork3896]

@@martin22336 can you explain why would it be perfect? there's already an arm machine that runs macos perfectly well... it's called a macbook ;)

[@freestyler1369]

If I get impressed I will sell my MacBook tonight

[@AlfredNutile]

Did you get the free TV with the Samsung Laptop 😊

[@AZisk]

i think maybe it’s on the way, just late

[@unique9198]

I saw some one got more numbers by pluging into charge..can you test numbers plug in

[@chrisoracle9210]

thanks for the information :) and amazing experience

[@aaronmurgatroyd5810]

It’s amazing how laboured and long the setup of a new Windows device is compared to Mac!

[@TrioLOLGamers]

The boot time on Mac is slower. So that doesn't tell you anything. Design choices

[@aaronmurgatroyd5810]

@@TrioLOLGamers only with fast boot enabled, otherwise it’s 10x times slower at boot too, even with fast boot windows is only a few second faster…

[@TrioLOLGamers]

@@aaronmurgatroyd5810 you've never seen an M1 Max boot up, it is Def slower even with fast boot enabled. Also you can skip the Setup by creating a disk copy and it will be faster. But that's not an issue. The issue is thinking that these things are real life changers. My RPI boots up faster, but I can only use it for few things. Also in these scenarios what matters is SSD and how the system handles that, not how fast a PC can be.

[@SuperMachead1]

The only time I “boot” my MacBook Air…is when there’s a software update….other than that I just open it up and it’s already on and ready 😊…even a couple weeks later when I go to use it….it still has a 90% charge….these x elites better do that…

[@io_inc]

i've waited so long!!!

[@atechdude]

I wonder what may be lurking in the BIOS settings as well.,

[@PurpleWarlock]

Numpads are life.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Get an external, much much better than a cramped, tiny on a laptop, that also ruins your keyboard. to make space for it.

[@jackkung4681]

Can you code on these machine? Like coding Java, running SQL query etc... I like the episode which is about coding on a M chip Mac. It was very helpful.

[@dmwtr275]

Thank you!

[@uyfdtioo]

Can this copilot pc have real-time guidance conversations with you when you play minecraft or other games?

[@shubhamvyas9459]

Can you please test Blender 3d on these devices.

[@saintkofi]

nice to see qualcomm entering the game but we need an OS for Arm. windows won’t cut it

[@MrFluke039]

i think it good start for windows at least they have better battery life now

[@rinconsebastian]

It would be interesting to test SQL server and SQL management studio

[@OHGOD-v4h]

Hi @AZisk I am about to start a software development career and I have been thinking the best laptop to buy until I came across your KZbin videos, right now I am thinking of buying MacBook Pro M3 and M3 Max. I have the budget for the laptop but I am still confused and I don’t know the one to get. Or should I go for windows? Please I need your help🙏 🙏 I confused

[@CarlosTSG]

The Samsung 14 inch model goes upto 3.8ghz and the 16inch model goes upto 4.2ghz, that's the reason why there's so many different benchmark results.

[@LoganJonesJ]

The 16" only does if you spec it with the X1E-84-100. I spec'd my 16" with the X1E-80-100.

[@AllTimeTech12]

Will it run Linux?

[@movax20h]

Yes. It requires pretty bleeding edge kernel, and a bit of tinkering but it does, including almost all peripheries and functions. I would still wait few weeks for things to be polished.

[@atechdude]

You need to Debloat all of those systems as well Alex.

[@YouGotPropofol]

Where is your accent from ?

[@RealtyWebDesigners]

Glad to see real competition - Forces Apple to keep upping their game. Since AI is the future they should start with 32GB ram and the MAX models should default at 128GB and Ultra 256GB so we can do awesome and FAST local models!

[@damien2198]

I am wondering how they fare compare to Win ARM running on Macbook

[@shubhobrataroy3884]

Test Android Studio if possible

[@MrKar18]

Alex, does the Surface laptop 15 inch come with different SKU of elite than 13. 5 inch? Like 80 vs 84 SKU?

[@descendency]

What did we learn? ARM can't fix Windows.

[@martin22336]

Windows still runs X86 components

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Linux can fix Windows /s

[@az-fy3mp]

it's haven't been even a day. be realistic.

[@sarunas8002]

So what does high performance do to battery?

[@uriahgardner5977]

Oops, ran it in Chrome and it was 29.5. Not really much faster than in Safari. 😂

[@Mbro-dq2do]

Its MORE effort reaching your arm up to touch the screeen and move things or do anything. Mouse is easier and less effort. Id never want or need that on my Macs

[@Davesaintgold]

On my EDGE4 14". multi. processor soores over 14k

[@scientist30]

I'm looking forward for coding programming related tests

[@khusbusVlog]

Snapdragon X ❤❤

[@getsetcode8162]

Run a Linux distro in these machines please.... fuck windows

[@chaostropy]

windows simply menace tbh.. im waiting first class citizen support for linux distros, otherwise im not gonna a spend single penny for this 'adventure'

[@zanylyf]

I think the numpad is totally useless it even makes the laptop look old asf if anybody want to use a numpad can just connect an external keyboard r8?

[@UCcdTp7XpCkVLkaRCsDcifFg]

need desktop version cpu

[@eliasjafaree4907]

Oooo I miss your live😐 you are only youtuber i wanna se his live

[@Mbro-dq2do]

Did they make it the same space grey as Mac??!! LOLOL So many intel laptops look identical to Macs theyre competing with

[@techzone2009]

Snapdragon dev kit

[@darksequence6836]

🎉

[@avijit849]

Qualcomm has the opportunity to replace the Chromebook category altogether with a lower tier processor than x plus. The moment there is a product in the market that isn't too fancy, but gives solid full day battery life and can decently run most applications. It will sell like hot cakes.

[@robinthekidd]

Most laptops are built for the masses, not for you only Alex. Ask someone who enters a lot of numbers in their job or studies how they feel about a numb pad. Where do you rest your hands, on a Bing blank space where the numb pad goes?!

[@AZisk]

numb pad! that’s exactly what i think too

[@FlorinArjocu]

Totally agree. I love my XPS keyboard except for missing the numpad.

[@AZisk]

alright you numb pad lovers, pile on here …

[@jorgerhernandez3647]

Buddy, if you work with numbers buy a NUM (short for numbers) pad. From UX/UI standpoint, there are multiple great shortcut keyboards designed for the task. Buying a numpad with extra features might be even better than just having it. And if you don't care about the brand, just buy a cheap laptop with an accessory and that's it, much better setup.

[@AZisk]

yes, Numpad is good for certain workflows and for those workflows, I would prefer a full keyboard, not a smooshed up tiny version that misplaces all regular keys and still doesn’t give you a full sized numpad. thus i call it a numb pad.

[@atechdude]

Install Brave.. Just say no to Google

[@gdotone1]

Even though it’s slow as all get out, I’m buying one. Why ? Apple cost too much and the screen has that ugly notch in the menu bar up top.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Wifi password was 16 chars /s

[@atechdude]

LOL. If its native its native.

[@freestyler1369]

Microsoft bruh

[@Poetiicjustice]

MS laptops really copied everything about macbook 😂 the industry loves apple

[@sbomaggz]

Ugly Box Squad 🤣🤣

[@EddieFrolic23]

So, another words stick with a MacBook Air or MacBook Pro.

[@oli.2844]

Basically, the chips are DOA. Oh well, you would think that after the 1000th time they try windows on ARM, that perhaps this one cracks the code. Nope.

[@MyRPgaming]

You are getting far more with this at equivalent pricepoint than an Air.

[@MyRPgaming]

​@@oli.2844 Some of us like laptops that perform well unplugged.

[@oli.2844]

@@MyRPgaming sure thing, buy a mac. Not whatever this dog crap is

[@ufukpolat3480]

No thanks, I actually like to have plenty of ram and not have my irreplaceable ssd die prematurely because of constant swapping. That's for cult of apple cool aid drinkers.

[@Mbro-dq2do]

WTF!?!?!? That Samsung scored a 5.99. My 2015 15" Macbook Pro got a 9.23

[@movax20h]

He messed up and was running wrong binaries

[@AZisk]

samsung got 28. i ran chrome 32 to test prism and that got 5.99

[@Mbro-dq2do]

@@AZisk Jesus bro. Mac all day Errrrrr day homie.My loaded M1 Max is unreal still. My VMs via UTM run flawlessly ALL THE TIME.. My old macs I rebuilt get Linux Baremetal. ALL run perfectly.Love your work man. Im learning a lot Thank you much

[@Davesaintgold]

Microsoft machines sucks

[@Bloated420]

Alex you need to learn to use Windows, looks like you're not 'fluent' on Windows.

[@greatrespect1549]

Can you run Android studio. Maybe run some app.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

yes you can

[@hpalvz]

Between 25 and 26 on Speedometer 3.0 is a GREAT score, my desktop Ryzen 7 5800X3D PC gets between 24.5 and 25.

[@adambenk0]

My ryzen 3700x gets 17. Not sure how to feel about it 😅

[@Rahuldantu]

I am replacing a ASUS Vivobook AMD Ryzen 6800H + RTX NVIDIA 3050 where its speedometer 3 score is about 18. I did not realize that.

[@aaronmurgatroyd5810]

My m4 iPad Air got 32.8 in Safari

[@adambenk0]

@@Rahuldantu I dont really think that the score is that important. My 3700x is strong enough for any professional work yet it is beaten in this test by my iPhone 15 pro, which gets 24.5.

[@Rahuldantu]

@@adambenk0 True that - As long as it can take care of my kind of work loads it's fine with me. It must needs to get it done quick

[@terencecoustillas9675]

16 is the result with speedometer with my 16 giga RAM M1 mac

[@feddos4227]

18:27 - as a person who has 4 layouts - let them keep this step