What do you think about the sound of Full Ceramic Bearings?
@pacman_172 жыл бұрын
full ceramic sound is tolerable. those micro bearings in your tatula 100 sounds the worst LOL
@Swimbait_fishing2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like crap, but if it improves performance then worth it
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
I think it's the bearings vibrating. Maybe I should try the new roro ones with the o rings
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
I like the sound when casting, I don't like it as much reeling it in :(
@Swimbait_fishing2 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing I think full ceramic bearing have a tendency to make noise, probably still make noise even if you stopped them from vibrating
@HomesteadOnThePreserve2 жыл бұрын
Morning Jimmy. Two things I discovered while fishing the Kestrel Elite with the OEM bearings. 1- Setting the spool tension to the tiniest hint of play (moving the spool side to side you can feel it move but you CANT hear it) the brakes setting exactly doubles the weight of the lure. Using a 2 gram lure works perfect with the brakes on 4. A 5g lure works perfect with brakes at 10. I think KastKing did this on purpose because the reel is good for weights up to around 5grams. (since the brakes actually go up to 11 ((listed as MAX)) that would be a 5.5 g lure) Using settings this way, I can cast a lure, NOT touch the spool and when the lure hits the water ill only get a loop or two of overspool! 2- Remember there is also a centrifugal braking system inside. Even if you set the BRAKE to minimum, the centrifugals are still slowing down the spool at its higher RPMs so removing magnets MAY not make a difference or at least not a negligible difference. Thanks for focusing on the Kestrel, i'm loving this reel and of course any videos you create using it.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the testing and insights. I also have a tiny play on my spool. But maybe I should do one more click and try again. Now I have the roro bearings In, it's been nothing but fantastic fishing. Used brakes at 1 for the EPF swim and on a 1/32nd Oz jig. Hope to get that video out next week as I got 2 videos ahead of this one! Cheers mate
@HomesteadOnThePreserve2 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing Awesome, looking forward to them my friend!
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Thx! Nab your bearings yet?
@HomesteadOnThePreserve2 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing Yup! Installed a set of ABEC 7 rated hybrid ceramics from the company named "ABEC357" I did a video comparing the OEM's, OEM's flushed and the hybrids. Just finished uploading it on my channel.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Nice. There's a lot of bearing factories that makes abec7 rated bearings. I have gotten some from Zoty before. Worked great overall, but they don't have micros
@MBPFishing2 жыл бұрын
That is one heck of a reel even before the upgrade.👊👍😄
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. Insane reel that can cast so light and barely any backlashes
@TheHunterFisher2 жыл бұрын
It’s honestly disappointing to see so many negative comments shutting the Kestrel down… BFS is ALL about modifications. That is literally it’s sole foundation of where it came from Japan. Unlike other bfs reels that big companies have produced, the Curado bfs specifically, this reel is performing great in the lightweight ranges stock. The only mods you absolutely should need to do is clean the bearings, while the Curado bfs to come even close to the kestrels performance you have to buy a $100 spool and new set of bearings… that puts a Curado that is competitive with this reel at $290-$320… This reel is quite competitive with $280-$300 reels, not Shimano budget options. There’s absolutely no reason to go with the Curado bfs over the Kestrel in my honest opinion. The price on this reel is very much justified seeing that it IS the lightest reel in the world, the lightest spool in the world. An overbraked system? Not a big deal really, but Shimanos slightly lower priced reels need multiple upgrades that make that put the price/performance ratio much more over the kestrel. It’s simply not smart to choose the Curado over the Kestrel and I haven’t even put my hands on it yet, video evidence is enough.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Well said Hunter! I think I have been harsh on my review so far, but It was intended as KastKing does a wonderful job listening. Although I may hit em hard with my comments, I really like this reel. And you know that I have play with many reels at this point. I think bearing upgrades is definitely something that all BFS folks do as well. All of my Japanese reels have aftermarket bearings, whether they are Roro, SDS or Hedgehog Studios. If we can fiddle with the brakes or have KastKing make some changes, Perhaps the stock bearings are not so bad. After all, my two out of the box casting videos, the distances were in all acceptable ranges. After doing the trout magnet and counting the number of cranks, it was actually pretty impressive. I hope you get the opportunity to try the Kestrel soon! I would be happy to send it down if you need it.
@TheHunterFisher2 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing I myself have surprisingly not done a single bearing upgrade but I’d love to soon. I think that out of the box this reel is definitely worth $220 without bearing upgrades, which I’m glad because you yourself know that I was nervous that this reel was not gonna hold up to par on price and performance. Out of the box, this reel is so much more worth it in comparison to the $200 or less Shimano options, in my opinion. I’d rather buy a DWU over any of those shimanos because it is way better value. I believe I have one on the way to test, it’s just taking a bit longer than I’m assuming😂I think you can know what I mean with that. But there is a Kestrel on its way to me still.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
the DWU is amazing. Even the newer version that doesn't have the dynamic braking. If other CDM brands don't step up, Tsu DWU will hold the crown for the best budget performing UL BFS Reel for a long time. I can't wait to see what they will do with the Kestrel BFS (non elite version) and perhaps what would replace the OG Zephyr BFS Reel. We, the BFS Community, have always provided feedback to KastKing. Don't be too disappointed with how other responds as comments are better than no comments!
@TheHunterFisher2 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing I think it’ll hold that spot for a good while. Really it could improve in terms of bearings or braking. I’d like to see something challenge it. Or maybe a budget round reel option be really good. I think my gripe with the comments is that the comments on this video are disproportionately negative. They act like they absolutely ruined every good possibility of this reel when the reality is overbraked is still way better than under in my opinion.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
bearings were not bad! Definitely could use micros, but that's where enthusiasts can come in and do their mod. Out of the box, the stock bearings/brakes can handle all the light stuff that I wanted for my typical fishing environment off the kayak, so I am happy :). now for stream, i think i'll have to grab me some of those roro bearings!
@pacman_172 жыл бұрын
Important lesson for KastKing, zero brakes needs to be no braking at all. People will get very picky in that $200+ range
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
I like how you worded that. Going to borrow that In my finalized review of the reel after my roro bearing testing.
@bicalijd_pierfishing96522 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend happy fishing Saturday I like those ceramic bearings
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Thx! It's loud huh?
@bicalijd_pierfishing96522 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing yup 👍🏼🎣 I love how far it cast
@TheD510addict2 жыл бұрын
Hmm. 170ish for Avail Microcast spool plus HH micro bearings for SLX BFS, or Kestrel ran stock? 1/20th oz and up.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't be fair comparison. Both must have the bearings to be fair. I would have to play more with the Kestrel to decide. Haven't tried roro bearings yet. Will after breakfast
@davidblevins10272 жыл бұрын
I gave up on removing the side plate bearing, I can't get it out. Seems mine is super tight fit. Even getting under it and pulling outword I can't get it out.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
I hate FTB braking style plates as it's always hard to do. But don't give up if u do have the roro bearings. Find a local reel tune up guy. They can knock it out for ya
@FishiganMilligan Жыл бұрын
Very nice! I'm going to have to get this reel. What's a good entry level rod option to go with it for a new BFS guy?
@rawrfishing Жыл бұрын
Depending on what you want to throw, Tsurinoya got the best quality for the price and can be found at www.baitfinesseempire.com if you are in the US. I highly suggest checking the lure weight ranges of each rod to see what works for you.
@christopherlee46132 жыл бұрын
Looking at how insanely easy you cast it, could seriously look into it. Since its made with Magnesium and graphite... looks good but your bearing upgrade sounds like a DC reel not getting enough eletricity....🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 stay safe an tight lines Jimbo... happy fishing with the Kestrel... I have 4 Kastking BFS reels at the moment...
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Thx man. Definitely casts pretty far and accurate. I think braking issue needs to be addressed, but it's still casts in all good ranges. Got the roro bearing on and gonna go back out this morning!
@ichphan2 жыл бұрын
Wish KastKing make a BFS that come out of the box that's decent without modification....$200 and has to making modifications, is it worth it.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Although I am pretty harsh on my review, the casting have been pretty good. If it wasn't for my pain, I think I wouldn't have a problem with the over braking. I think I would still give this a huge thumbs up because it's going torward a right direction. May need a few small tweaks, but I am not going to say it's a bad reel just because I highlighted a few things I didn't like. I will compile a review video once I feel I have done all the testing I can do without breaking it 😂
@TheHunterFisher2 жыл бұрын
Cleaning bearings or replacing bearings is hardly modifications at all
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
lol.. it's a hard modification for FTB style Braking! That one retainer clip is so hard to get in and out!
@TheHunterFisher2 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing I used my fiancés jewelry tools with the DWU! Lol
@HomesteadOnThePreserve2 жыл бұрын
Don't be too hash on the bearing replacement. I replace the bearings in all my Daiwa's and Shimano's and those are $300+ reels. I do wish ALL these companies would put hi quality bearings in the first place and just charge us for them. I just replaced my Kestrel Elite spool bearings to ABEC 7 rated hybrid ceramics. Only cost $40 for the set and the reel is even more amazing. If KastKing past that $40 charge to us (would actually be even less due to buying in mass bulk) the Elite would only cost $260 and be better then the $300-350 hi end Daiwa's and Shimano's. I'm a big fan of anything made in Japan but I gotta give KastKing credit, their made in China reels are pretty awesome.
@RainbowsAndHerpes2 жыл бұрын
What was that rod matey? I’ve been reel keen on a one piece.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
The first one is actually a 2 piece... But discontinued. Tsurinoya Ares C472UL. 2nd one is a 1 piece prototype rod from Matzuo. Should be out next year
@dominiquelavaut90522 жыл бұрын
Bonjour raWr fishing jai visionné plusieurs vidéos sur moulinets kastking kirstel bfs mai il impossible de trouver sur Aliexpress , je voudrais savoir ou vous l avez acheté , merci pour les vidéos 👍
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. I have gotten mine from a small US store called Bait Finesse Empire. The reel will be on Aliexpress probably later on the year after they fulfill all their preorders. It seems like their primary target right now is the US market, but hopefully they will have some on AliExpress for the global market soon.
@dominiquelavaut90522 жыл бұрын
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@noobpyrotech9991 Жыл бұрын
So how do these bearing compare to Roro, boca, or Spool Speed? When I get my BFS reel I was trying to decide which ones to get. I am not worried about the sound, just manly want distance. I know this company will come back eventually. They update their facebook, and orders will have a long wait.
@rawrfishing Жыл бұрын
Micros will never beat full size bearings for distance. I would pass on this if your goal is distance. Especially for heavier lures
@noobpyrotech9991 Жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing actually looking for distance for ultralight lures.
@rawrfishing Жыл бұрын
There is no difference really. if you are trying to make this reel better... remove magnets is the only way to get distance. But you still have the issue of a very small spool. Small spools suffers in dispensing line, thus shorter distances. I would opt for a different reel if you really need distance. or spinning reels
@yaknlife68942 жыл бұрын
How do you know what size bearing kit to get for your reels?
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
U can look em up. Most stores that sells bearings knows or will know. Or you can contact the reel company and ask. Lastly, u can compare bearings from your collection
@엔초비-i4g2 жыл бұрын
What is the size of each bearing?
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
You will hear me say it within the first 60 seconds of the video :) thanks for watching!
@schbrthkumpau2 жыл бұрын
not a big fan of ceramic bearing a bit noisy for me but I have full ceramic on my daiwa tatula type R 😂super long cast 🤣more than enough for giant snakehead
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Definitely noisy. I rather have hybrids. But yeah sounds like a good reel to launch frogs super far
@noahhirtreiter538 Жыл бұрын
Are they better than the roros?
@rawrfishing Жыл бұрын
Loud lol... Feels not as smooth. Distance is okay. Better than stock, not sure if it's better than Roro without measuring.
@panchoarce56882 жыл бұрын
You should try the kestrel sfs i want to order but still not sure .... i own the zephyr sfs a really enjoy it.... i think if you like it or dislike it would help with a decision
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
I currently have no plans on getting that reel. Budget is tight.
@SyaidanYakob972 жыл бұрын
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@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Nice! i got some stuff here i need to edit! the ducky duck jr is fun!
@pygmyhorde18212 жыл бұрын
With the brakes set to zero, I can look at a reel like I'm gonna cast and make it backlash... Back to practicing...
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Lol.. Every reel is different. It's easy casting here
@DefinitelyNotABot7132 жыл бұрын
For anyone doing this mod, don’t do what I did.. watch your spring! The spring clip on the side plate went flying. I can’t find it and no one sells one that small to fit the Kestrel. I reached out to Kastking and they said they don’t even have spare parts in stock yet. FML..
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Do it in the bag! Mine flew too. But hard floor for the win 😂 it should be fine with out it. My side plate seems to hold bearings down. So it may not be an issue. If u have any other old reels not in use, maybe check If they fit
@DefinitelyNotABot7132 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing Yeah I’ll be sure to use a bag next time. Hmm I was wondering if during usage the bearing would move (slide laterally) without the clip..
@Swimbait_fishing2 жыл бұрын
Did you check hedgehog? They sell various sizes
@DefinitelyNotABot7132 жыл бұрын
@@Swimbait_fishing No I have not. Let me do that now. For sure 9mm doesn’t fit. Let me see if they have smaller than that.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
I had to pry my bearings out, so maybe it will stay in place.
@casperd63882 жыл бұрын
Why are u a fan of noise bearings
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Who said I was?
@udineudinese2 жыл бұрын
Nice...
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Thx...
@gerlor94252 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the only music to my ear is DC.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
whatever floats your boat :)
@kcrsxtypes2 жыл бұрын
Only music to your ears is money flying out of your wallet apparently 🤣
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
lol! i have never been a fan of DC reels other than the sounds. i just gotten one to play and the distance isn't as great and the braking isn't even perfect. I got used to my daiwa reels and other magnetic braking reels and can bomb casts pretty effectively. But i do wanna try their highest end ones with the more expensive DC module. Gotta try em all!
@hiltoncds75292 жыл бұрын
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@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌👍👍🎣🎣
@predatorarmyfishing59012 жыл бұрын
You need to lub your ceramic bearing 😉better with lub
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Nah I run all ceramic and hyrbrid dry. Lube may reduce friction... But there is still resistance. It's like walking in a pool. Water is super low viscosity... But it still have resistance, thus you walk slower in water than on dry land
@predatorarmyfishing59012 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing i know what you say but a little few thats better... I have ceramics in my zephyr and i Cast dry, but i m wondering for lub, i put just one drop in bearing and Cast was better and distance too 😉i put vaseline oil in.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Maybe for light lures, but i won't be testing dry vs lube at this time. I removed the set of bearings and now using roro micro hybrids. They are amazing
@quanloikid12 жыл бұрын
I returned My kestrel. The ceramics don't sound comfortable
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
oh really? what did you not like about it most?
@quanloikid12 жыл бұрын
I returned my Kestrel. Listening to your reel is painful. Good luck
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. It was a bit louder i guess for the viewers as the mic was right there in front of the reel while my ears were above. I took em out already and installed a different set.
@panchoarce56882 жыл бұрын
I think for the price the kestrel goes for it shouldnt need upgrades....
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Even Japanese reels can still be improved with high end micro bearings.
@panchoarce56882 жыл бұрын
@@rawrfishing i agree but kastking is not at that level in the bfs game ..... im a big kastking person but still a shimano bfs over kastking
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
Their reels are progressing. So give it time. Shimano might be better, but let's face it. They are not here actively growing the market in the United States. But I do hope that reels like the Kestrel will change their minds. I also hope the curado bfs reel have proven that the US is totally interested in seeing more of their bfs products here.
@TheHunterFisher2 жыл бұрын
I think the same goes for the Curado BFS yet so many praise it. This reel dusts the Curado bfs if you just clean off the bearings and oil them.
@rawrfishing2 жыл бұрын
the curado was definitely priced high. it was so close to the Scorpion, which was very interesting. Glad Yen is down and everyone is getting the SLX BFS!