Whiting rig setup | Simple DIY Paternoster & Running Fishing rigs

[@winderdoon1]

Alan, I am an aged Whiting fisherman having grown up around Port Phillip Bay. Your tips on rigs and techniques are clear and effective. Best wishes

[@fishingmad]

Thank Jon, I greatly appreciate you taking them time to pass on some positive feedback. Have a great day.

[@metallical87]

I definitely like your dropper loop far better than the traditional way as yours you know what length you will end up getting....also love how you explain everything in fine detail and not rush anything!! Best tutorials so ive seen so far!!

[@robk481]

Thanks for the video ! Helped me make my first rig, very well explained and filmed 👍

[@fishingmad]

Glad it helped!

[@alessimessi761]

The second rig I am 10000000% using tomorrow, I cannot wait, thanks soooo much Alan, u are so helpful, cannot wait to get out there now! ❤️❤️

[@fishingmad]

Awesome, Im really glad you found it helpful. Once you master doing these its much cheaper than buying premade rigs and they work really well for local species of the pier or boat.

[@PurplePatchFishing]

Looking for a guide to tie a paternoster rig and of course I found it here....... Thanks Alan 💜🎣

[@chrisdoran7596]

Well done Allan simple and effective. I prefer the way you do the paternoster rig. There are now pink and green tube and beads. I had a size 1 star sinker on the bottom targeting whiting and flathead. 😀🎣👍

[@connorslothyhugs929]

Trying to learn new knots and ways to set up rigs and this is so helpful 😂

[@fishingmad]

Glad it was helpful!

[@666percentfishing]

Great video. I love targeting KGs, and I have spent many hours mucking around with the best rig for them. All i can say is red tubes, beads, even sequins are all good options for attractants and i believe the whiting respond well, especially with bloodworms and gulp worms.

[@Doodsy1975]

Good idea to make some rigs when we can't go fishing. I need to do this.

[@fishingmad]

Yeah exactly what I was doing. Cleaning reels, respooling reels, creating my own new rigs and stocking up on some lures and plastics waiting for the green light to get back out there soon.

[@poochythefirst7749]

you're the best man - I have always struggled to create my own rigs and even I have managed to put a few together very quickly this morning thanks :)

[@fishingmad]

Glad I could help! Good luck with the rigs. Plenty of other helpful vids on the channel and a few good rigging vids coming.

[@anthonyspiteri8942]

Thanks Alan 👍,any fishing tips from you are always welcome mate. Good to watch and learn 👌

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Anthony. Those paternoster rigs are also perfect for flathead and pinkies at Campbells. You will clean up with them. I usually have one out whilst also flicking soft plastics. Hopefully it was helpful.

[@Hydroforcepressurecleaning]

Awesome and simple to understand video!

[@fishingmad]

Glad it was helpful!

[@damianlarsen3672]

Nice and neat finish on your paternoster rig. I will certainly give this one a go. Thanks for posting

[@fishingmad]

Fantastic, Thanks Damian. I hope it helps.

[@damianlarsen3672]

@@fishingmad I have tied a few of these paternoster rigs now. It is so easy. Can't wait to see how they go when isolation issues are resolved

[@Kate-vr5ud]

Thanks for this. Very clear but straight forward info for a newbie to fishing 😁

[@fishingmad]

Your very welcome, lots of how to vids on the channel that you should find helpful, aswell.

[@Wazza722]

Very good detailed explanation on the dropper rig!

[@fishingmad]

Thanks! 👍

[@hcmate]

Hey mate thanks for taking the time to make this vid. Helped me out heaps! :)

[@fishingmad]

Glad it helped!

[@Potatoesgonnapotate3]

Your a terrific teacher mate cheers

[@billbennett6398]

Nice rigs and plenty of different knots for me to learn, thanks

[@fishingmad]

No problem 👍 Glad it was helpful.

[@AngusMacKinnon-xm5ko]

Many thanks Alan. Excellent instructions!

[@fishingmad]

Glad you enjoyed it !!

[@kennychall]

thank you allen top job matey, ya never to old to learn, take ya time and enjoy tying some rigs before ya go and catch a feed of whiting, caught 6 nice whiting this arvo yummie dinner on the way,

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Kenny👍 Hope the rigs help. Yeah cant beat a good feed of whiting thats for sure

[@llewellynwallace7723]

Extremely helpful Thanks for the Tutorial

[@fishingmad]

Glad it helped

[@alanreynolds8843]

Love the vid . Connects us fishos in lock down .THANK YOU . I love the ability to bring together superior components & to make a rig for the fish of a lifetime .i'm sure you will inspire others .

[@fishingmad]

Thank you so much for the positive comments !! Im hoping vids like these keep other local anglers entertained until we can all go back to fishing soon.

[@mr_j83]

Very nice and knowledgeable video. As beginner I learned a lot right here in Melbourne! Thank you👍

[@fishingmad]

Awesome, glad to hear it. Lots of other helpful content on the channel as well.

[@chriscorrigan4428]

G'day mate. Bloody good and easy to understand video. Just watching makes me want go and start putting a few rigs together. Thanks heaps. I'm new to saltwater fishing so this has been a great help also watched a few of your other vid's as well. You make it all look easy. Can't wait to start.

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Chris, thats really great feedback. With some practice you'll be making your own rigs easily. Good luck out there

[@jtk0762]

Thanks again on another demonstration. I’m on holidays in kalbarri wa. Wish me luck👍

[@fishingmad]

Awesome, Good luck out there. Hope you get plenty of them

[@-jijiyo-8825]

thank you sir! simple yet very helpful *thumbs up

[@fishingmad]

Glad it helped!

[@stephenbray4624]

Very neat thank you for this and for a very nicely explained video

[@alexcastas8405]

This was very helpful. Thanks!

[@lennytheleopard]

Excellent - as usual. Thanks

[@darryljohnston1284]

The black background shows the knots very well cheers

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Darryl, its always helpful to have feedback like this. Thank you !!

[@jasonsensenberger3287]

No it doesn't

[@karenmurray3098]

excellent video , love this basic skills stuff

[@fishingmad]

Glad you liked it! Thank you

[@garrynorth6199]

Great rig explanation, thank you 😊

[@fishingmad]

Glad it was helpful!

[@algendy2011]

Very informative video Thanks heaps Al

[@fishingmad]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@angeloalogaras6555]

fantastic mate as always!!!! take care

[@fishingmad]

Thank you !!! Much appriciated

[@kbfishingadventures604]

Really great upload got everything I need to make this going to give it a go ✌🏼😎🎣

[@fishingmad]

Fantastic, I hope the video helps you catch plenty of fish creating your own rigs.

[@michaelhoppe1311]

Nice vid man glad to see you are still making content even though there is a lockdown

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Michael. It sure has been challenging to come up with content. Hopefully these helpful vids provide some good value for those watching. Cant wait for the lockout to be finished so we can go back to fishing !!

[@pinoamenta5640]

Lovely thanks Alan. very helpful.

[@fishingmad]

Thanks, your very welcome

[@Daniel-bs1zx]

Cheers Al! Another top quality video my man

[@fishingmad]

Thanks very much Daniel !!!!! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@IDontTalkToCops]

Awesome. Thank you 👍

[@CorbinLanham]

Great rig 😊 thanks very effective

[@MrWee05]

This was so good Thank You!

[@fishingmad]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lewiscroft6235]

Love the work Alan

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Lewis, Great to hear from you. I hope your going well !!

[@lewiscroft6235]

@@fishingmad I saw your face on a fishing monthly magazine. Small world aye. I'm the Marine Marketing manager at SAPL. Learning the market and trying to learn how to 🐟 fish as well 😁. Have a great festive season .

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Lewis, you have a great festive season to. Great to see you have expanded SAPL to marine aswell. It sure is very different market segment to moto. Great to see the FMM magazine cover doing the rounds.

[@SusheelSRaj]

Superb this great

[@fishingmad]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@philipgfishing]

Easy done! Thanks !!!!!

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Philip !!

[@cynthiagardiner121]

I love your new video.

[@fishingmad]

Thank you, plenty of new stuff on the way too

[@asavkoyt]

Very helpful. Thank you!

[@fishingmad]

Glad it was helpful!

[@tezzaskayakfishing]

Great vid Alan, helpful as ever Sir 👌🎣

[@fishingmad]

Thank you kindly Terry !!!

[@jaredbuttigieg]

Awesome video Alan 👍. I will definitely be making a bunch of these to pass time.

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Jared. Glad to hear it !! Also these are much cheaper then buying premade rigs.

[@chrisdoran7596]

Simple, uncomplicated and very effective. Perfect for your bread and butter fishing. Well done!😀🎣👍

[@kevanhess2105]

Well demonstrated. 😊

[@heathbonnici6972]

Great Video, very helpful

[@fishingmad]

Thanks heaps, glad you enjoyed mate !!!

[@heathbonnici6972]

@@fishingmad Sure did, keep them coming !!

[@fishingmad]

Will do !!

[@djinn201]

That's great thanks.

[@fishingmad]

No worries! Glad you enjoyed it

[@mudhafaraldwood8992]

Good video. Thanks

[@fishingmad]

Glad you liked it! Thank you !!

[@leightonsmith1197]

Best video l have seen

[@fishingmad]

Thank you !!

[@jasonsensenberger3287]

You should use thicker dark line to show your knots as you explain. As it's hard to follow the line as you tie the knots

[@robwooly]

Love your show, and tios, may I ask why is it 50 cm of leader...why not 30 or 20 or 10? can you give details kind regards. Rob.

[@Mickey_vee]

What a great way to do a pananosta, I’ve always made loops in the line and attached the hooks to the loops but it gets tangled so often.

[@fishingmad]

Your welcome, Thank you !!

[@themossypottery]

Love your simple explanations...why would the red tubing and bead improve catch chances? Cheers.

[@fishingmad]

It just acts as an attractant and the change of colour can grab a fishes attention. Its really personal preference whether you need them or not. I have had occasions where the rigs with the beads were getting more catches.

[@Hahehhwgajshah72726..]

I double the line,make a small loop,twist it twice then fees the big loop through for my patternosters.Then I cut one of the legs off and attach hook with uni knot. Any reason you use unlocked blood knots?I find they let go under tension on big fish and would always lock them.I use uni knots solely now. Great work.Keep it up.

[@Nigelgf]

Thanks for this mate -really easy to follow. If trolling from kayak - do you recommend this set up ?

[@fishingmad]

Hi Nigel, i generally troll soft plastics and hard body lures, rarley troll baits unless targeting kingfish. These rigs work great when anchored or drifiting for pinkies, whiting, flathead, redfin and others

[@Nigelgf]

@@fishingmad thanks mate

[@LiveLife-gl4he]

Hi Allan great and clear video on whiting rig, what is the size of running sinker u use? Is size 1 too small /light? Cheers

[@fishingmad]

We generally go as light as we possibly can, this will be determined by the tidal flow and depth. If I'm fishing somewhere that's 3-5 meters deep and not to much tidal flow than size 1 is OK, it means the fish feels less resistance when they strike which is good. If your baits aren't getting to the bottom than go slightly heavier.

[@-ShootTheGlass-]

Thanks 👍🐟

[@fishingmad]

No problems, your welcome.

[@paulokeeffe362]

Hi Alan any lessons on reading a sounder ? Paul in Wa

[@fishingmad]

Hi Paul, all of our detailed instructional content is found on the FishingMad members Website.

[@imozzie]

J hooks find need to be active to set , I use 2 rods so I use worm hooks or small circles, knot I prefer is the Snell as it applies pressure self setting = just pick rod up and wind in 😉

[@whippee2]

excellent video, thanks. Have you used circle hooks on your running sinker rigs?

[@fishingmad]

Yeah you can use any sort of hooks on both the rigs created. I generally do either baitkeeper, long shank or circle hooks.

[@martingray8350]

Nice video thanks what where those hooks please

[@fishingmad]

Mustad extra long shank in size 6. They have a pic of a whiting on the packet. Hope that helps

[@martingray8350]

@@fishingmad thanks

[@ryansheen523]

Hey mate, love the vids but im curious. Is red the best colour tubing/beads you have found to use?

[@fishingmad]

Ive used a few different colours. Prob a toss up between lumo and red.

[@Piratepeteoo]

hi Alan have you tried putting pompano floats on your rigs tubing then beads a small pompano float at the top the hook eye ,,,im thinking of trying it down here the Whiting mite like it ,,, im in south Australia by the way mate ,,,its idear im ,,, play around with it may work i think it will work ok ,,,

[@fishingmad]

Hi Peter I haven't, but I think its a great idea. It may prevent the rigs from tangling up and have better bait presentation. Great tip, ill look into it

[@Piratepeteoo]

hi Alan i think it will attract fish more and move the baits around better you can still use the beads and red tubes as well the more red the better the hook trace, s can be made a bit longer 25cm,s mite be good

[@dandyflyswatter]

Hey awesome tutorial, will be trying it out. I recently fished at Flinders for whiting and no matter how I set up my Paternoster & Running Sinker I had problems with the notorious weedy carpet bed around the Flinders Pier. I tried a massive gap between the sinker and the closest hook to it, didn't solve the issue, I was wondering if there was anything you recommend other than a float setup - And if I were to set this up with a float what would it look like

[@stevejones9636]

Hi Alan can I ask what was your whiting rod you just showed thanks

[@fishingmad]

Pretty sure it was my Savage Gear 1DFR 1-4kg rod. 7 foot 2 in length. great for whiting.

[@stevejones9636]

@@fishingmad I just brought the new stealth 1dfr 1-4kg hopefully it will go good on the beach for whiting.

[@fishingmad]

Awesome, its perfect for whiting, so light and whippy.

[@bobking4031]

When you loose your hook and fish you will realise when doing a blood knot it pays to lock it by passing the tag end back through the loop then pull it up. I find it better when using red tube and bead put the red tube closest the hook with the bead on top it makes a diffrence

[@robhezza1307]

Would you recommend a running sinker rig or a paternoster rig for fishing in Western Port Bay, typically in the north arm area, using 1/0 black magic KL circle hooks?

[@fishingmad]

Id start with a paternoster as the tides are strong and that will ensure the baits are down the bottom

[@karinagraham2729]

What strength is the green line...and what type...ill be showing my partner all your rigs there great thank you .

[@fishingmad]

Hi Karina, im glad your enjoying the content and finding the rigging vids helpful. In this video i used different color lines just to make it easier to follow. Typically for whiting I would be using anything from 6-12 lb leader. You can use this rig for a whole range of species and just change the leader strength depending on the fish that your targeting. I hope that helps let me know if you have any other questions

[@karinagraham2729]

Thank you very much .well worth subscribing keep up the great work .can I suggest doing a how to video on the" pinky method fg knot" I believe your follows will love that as I noticed u only had one with a tool assit.

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Karina, Yeah im working on a heap of technical vids at the moment, some of which will go into our members area and the other on the youtube channel. Lots of rigging, setup and technique tutorials Thanks

[@DylanFieldFilms]

awesome! would these rigs work well for bream? or would they be spooked by red tubing and beads?

[@fishingmad]

Hi Dylan, I find a light running sinker works best for bream. have a look at this video which shows how i setup for bream kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXSYY6V_d8iqn8U cheers

[@bruceclarke513]

@@fishingmad m

[@YangLin-o7p]

Hi Alan, I am just wondering how heavy the sinker is for paternoster rig? I have a 25g sinker, is it too heavy for this? My rod is 4-8kg

[@irondrinky4056]

Hey mate i've watched lots of your knot videos and i notice most use a swivel. Do you fish all of these with mono main line? to my understanding it's not the norm to run a swivel with brain main line, rather an FG knot or the like. Any info would be appreciated mate

[@fishingmad]

When bait fishing will often use a swivel to the fluro leader as this helps the rig stay very strong. Otherwise whenever doing any soft plastic or lure fishing always braid to fluro using a FG or double uni. Sometimes bait rigs I will also use braid to fluro

[@jobygeorge5100]

What sort of bait we need to use with this rig to catch Whitings from a pier?

[@fishingmad]

Pipis, squid or mussels are great bait for whiting. This vid might be helpful for you kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2ipeWqNbZiVmdE

[@deepdropfishing-L]

You are the best i love you

[@stefanobalduzzi982]

Hi mate, thanks for your video. Just a question. Do you use for the line braid or mono and in which size. Thank again

[@fishingmad]

Mainline i usually use braid generally between 6-10 lb. However as its for fishing with bait it can be cheaper to use mono again 6-10 lb. Braid is much more important when lure and plastics fishing but i tend to use it for most of my fishing.

[@grawmebrown9759]

Hi, Im working away at the moment so can only buy tackle on line, what size sinker are you using?

[@fishingmad]

Pretty sure it was either a size 1 ball sinker or size 2 ball sinker. Cheers

[@grawmebrown9759]

@@fishingmad Thanks Thanks

[@rcs7602]

what ocean surf you fish at that will hold that small weight? I need min 2 most time 3 sometimes 5 oz weights

[@nolixss694]

Hey mate, any pretence on having sinker at swivel vs sinker down to hook?

[@fishingmad]

I tend not to have the sinker down near the hook, my reasoning for this is it add resistance when the fish takes the bite it may feel the resistance on not get a clean strike. not to say it wouldn't work but that's what I've always thought

[@nolixss694]

@@fishingmad yes I agree, I only do that to use it for when using a small sinker (size 0-1)as I’ve found fish don’t feel it but then when using bigger then that I always have it behind swivel.

[@nolixss694]

@@fishingmad I also found when drifting with sinker behind swivel I get the leader tangled around mainline, would you know how to combat this?

[@fishingmad]

Yeah 100 agreed, and that strategy works awesome for species like flathead and snapper just to get the bait down but using small sinkers so there isn't much resistance.

[@fishingmad]

This will happen occasionally ( not much you can do about t really. I don't tend to find it to much of a problem.

[@tonykourounblis1854]

Your paternoster rig was good but running sinker rigs out fish on whiting 10 to one is it only me

[@peternohlmans4588]

on the running sinker rig ,,can you use a dropper rig above the sinker ,,,,so the sinker runs in the middle or is that no good

[@fishingmad]

Yeah you probably could. I personally haven't but wouldn't see it causing to much of an issue. Most times your fishing for whiting in quite shallow depths

[@peternohlmans4588]

Hi Alan keep you and your family safe mate,,,, here we go again ,,,,

[@peternohlmans4588]

hi Alan you and your Family stay safe over there mate ,,,,,,here we go again ,,,,,,

[@jakcity3214]

Hey mate What size sinker you use in the video for the paternoster rig ??

[@fishingmad]

Its just a very small sinker , sorry im not 100% sure what the size was. It was the smallest borm sinkers they had

[@peternohlmans4588]

HI ALAN HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE ALL SAFE FROM THIS COVID 19 CRAP MATE

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Peter!!! yeah we are doing all OK. Looking forward to finally getting back out there.

[@peternohlmans4588]

thats good to here mate stay safe you guys

[@fishingmad]

Thanks !!!

[@bradcomeadow91]

Does braid to swivel work fine ???

[@fishingmad]

Yep it sure does, 99% of the time im using braid on my mainline. If you watch the last whiting video I did youll see the rod and reels which have orange braid on them

[@fishingty3517]

hey mate just got a kayak after all this mess is over where would the best spot for fishing in the bay would be?

[@fishingmad]

Thats fantastic to hear, congrats. So i can be more helpful roughly what area are you located ? then I give you some good specific spots. Also what kayak did you get ??

[@fishingty3517]

@@fishingmad i got a berkeley 2.9 but i would be going out with a couple of my experienced mates i live just out of melbourne in the eastern suburbs cheers

[@fishingmad]

Thats wonderful. Im sure you will love it. Most of kayak fishing is done on the west side around Altona, Werribee and Geelong. On the east side I would definitley be thinking of targeting blackrock, stkilda, mount martha, port melbounre. some amazing fishing spots around there. Blackrock is great for snapper, squid flathead, stkilda great for flathead, snapper, snook, mount martha exceptional for squid and salmon, port melbourne amazing for snapper. I hope this helps. Im hoping to build a massive kayak launching page in the coming months to give more specific launching spots

[@fishingty3517]

fishingmad thank you so much helped me heaps and that would be awesome if you started up that page i would be definitely watching all the vids but really thank you so much

[@fishingmad]

No problems, your very welcome. Let us know how you go once these fishing restrictions are over.

[@jumpfall1989]

what bait is the most effective? cheers

[@fishingmad]

If your targeting whiting than watch this it covers all you need to know kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2ipeWqNbZiVmdE otherwise if your targeting species like pinkies and flathead you cant go wrong with pilchard or squid

[@issyb7394]

Another awesome video Alan!! How come you use two lines to make a paternoster ? And why’s one a different colour ? Cheers

[@fishingmad]

Thanks for the positive comment. I was using different colours just to make the video easier to understand. usually I would be using the same leader. I find using 2 lines to make the rig is much tidier. I have another way of making 2 dropper lines using the one piece of leader but then the lines where the hooks are become doubled up which is really messy and i think the strike rates are less. I hope that helps, let mw know if you have any other questions.

[@issyb7394]

fishingmad oh I see but do you use 2 lines the same ?

[@fishingmad]

Yep, would usually be exactly the same leader for the line and 2 droppers. I generally use about 12 pound leader for each part

[@teddykara8628]

How do you use the running sinker rig in the water?

[@fishingmad]

Just cast into the water, the running sinker will move up and down the mainline freely allowing the bait to move naturally. Its a very effective way of catching many fish species.

[@teddykara8628]

@@fishingmad thank you so much bro

[@fishingmad]

anytime !!

[@jono999s]

get in

[@fishingmad]

Thanks !!!

[@Fishingwithsteve]

So much cheaper making your own rigs, i been doing the same.

[@fishingmad]

Agreed, I enjoy making them too. Plus you also get to choose what strength leader, what size and brand hooks and customize it to your exact needs. ill have plenty ready to go once we can start fishing again. Whenever that might be.

[@bailey_the_robloxer8076]

Me: let’s turn up the volume to hear him better Intro: DELEDETE DELETEDE Me: *turned deaf*

[@twohands_can]

Cool video, if I had a dollar for every time you said "ok" , I could buy a new rod and reel :p

[@fishingmad]

Thank you. Good tip, i didnt realise but ill work on that for the next rigging video.

[@purpleturkey1792]

Wanker ... ok

[@Shauno119]

Wow lol

[@FloridaRaider]

then to save it, wrap it around a piece of foam pool noodle

[@fishingmad]

Great idea !!

[@agusdaniel6539]

The fish just fooled by red tubing ? Emm..

[@fishingmad]

They say the tubing imitates a worm or bigger bait which attracts fish. Its also nice for clean presentation and less tangles. You dont have to add it.

[@darrenb66]

my fingers are too GD big haha

[@fishingmad]

Yeah it can get a little fiddely

[@BobJones-pr1sp]

Perhaps use line that can actually be seen

[@AngusMacKinnon-xm5ko]

Hi again Alan. Can I ask please, would you use a float with the paternoster rig and how does the float attach to the line please?

[@fishingmad]

Hi Angus, No id never use a float with a paternoster rigs. These rigs are usually made for species like whiting, flathead, pinkies. For Float rigs check this vid out kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6vWlniCntSlqdE

[@AngusMacKinnon-xm5ko]

@@fishingmad Alan, you are a true gentleman mate. Many thanks indeed for your kind advice. PS: Happy and Safe Easter to you and your family mate. 🐟🐟🐟🐠🐠🐠🐟🐟🐟🐠🐠🐠

[@fishingmad]

Thanks !! Happy easter to you and your family aswell