Fishman Fluence Modern Pickups Installed in Jackson JS22-7 7-String + Recorded Some Riffs

[@LloydBuckmanGuitar]

Ordered my Fluence pickups and Hipshot Locking tuners today. Hell of a good deal on a project 7-String guitars. Love how I wasn't even close to the only one who had the same idea when buying it - lol

[@Dgsterx]

Neither was I, just one of the first ones to do a video of it lol. I'm still pretty happy with how it turned out. Good luck!

[@NAguitarist]

And with that, I just decided on which pickups I want in mine. Thanks for the video showing how easy it is.

[@Dgsterx]

Thanks for watching! I have the Fishmans in 2 guitars now and I love them. Enjoy and good luck! 🤘🏻

[@NAguitarist]

@user-kr1hh5wh9o they have arrived and maaaaan I thought some of the wiring would be harnessed together. Noooope. *Ralph meme* haha, I'm in danger.

[@markdemars7366]

I have those in a six string JS22. With the locking tuners and graphite reinforced neck it's been a beast.

[@GnarLyDc]

Man this was so good

[@markolivares6943]

Very cool project and it came out incredible.

[@Dgsterx]

Thanks for watching! 🤘🏻

[@shinraorg]

These fishman are massive, they were installed on my Keith Marrow MK7-MKIII and was the same process.

[@markus_m4rk]

Nice vid. Thinking of swapping out the bridge on my js227. Ive tried different IRs for recording but still get that horrible compressed and bitty tone when playing full chords from the stock pup. You can definitely hear the improvement with chords sounding full and dynamic with the fluence.

[@didymuskvist]

I'm considering doing the same for my Dinky.

[@ToneD5150]

Well done!👍✌🤘

[@wasslewis2244]

I want to do this with my js22 6 string. Such a sick sound ! Nice vid and sweet axe. The necks on these are so nice🤘

[@Dgsterx]

Hi! Thanks, I appreciate that! I own 2 of these JS22-7's and for the price they are great starter 7S guitars. The Fishman's were a great upgrade, I would highly recommend it just for a fun project!

[@kevinmyles6369]

Killer video! Well done 👍

[@Dgsterx]

Thank you!

[@AndreasKnutsen]

I wanna do this to my RG8! How did you fit the battery? o: Considering the rechargeable battery from Fishman 🧐

[@Dgsterx]

@AndreasKnutsen Hi there! I had no problem fitting the battery in the back cutout. However, this guitar only has 2 pots (1 Tone, 1 Volume) and the switch. If you've got a 3rd pot it may be a little tighter but it can be done. I have EMGs with a battery in my Ibanez RG, but that one also only has 2 pots.i think you should be able to make it fit, just be sure to wrap it with electrical tape or some other nonconductive material for electrical protection. The rechargeable batteries look cool, but I've never used one so I have no idea how they fit

[@blacktigerorganization]

Yeah I was going to buy a new guitar but once I find out it's all about hardware I'll stick to my 7 string Jackson

[@estradacastillo7934]

Hi! The guitar have enough space in there for the battery of the pick ups?

[@trys10studios]

Sick af.

[@diode86]

It constantly drains the batteries. They last for about 3 days until sound starts to cut and then it's gone. Like the circuit is not closed after the cable gets unplugged. No idea what to do anymore. Maybe the stock 3 way blade switch needs to be changed since on diagram i noticed it's the different one, with different poles.

[@blacktopphil]

Did you wire your pickup selector according to the diagram you used? Having a heck of a time getting mine working.

[@Dgsterx]

Yes, used the stock Jackson pickup selector that came with the guitar and wired it as stated in the diagram in the video. I did have the pickups backwards initially and had to swap the wires on the selector, but other than that didn't have any issues. One of my comments on this video I sent a Google Drive link with some close up pictures for reference. I will try to find that for you

[@blacktopphil]

@@Dgsterx thank you so much!

[@marzbitenhaussen]

i paper sanded the edges of the pick ups a little instead of the guitar, the edges for the pick up mounting screws are squarish so make those rounded and it fits fine

[@Dgsterx]

Nice! That's sounds way easier than what I did haha. I wouldn't have even thought of that as I would worry about damaging the pick-ups. Glad that worked out for you, do you have any pictures?

[@blacktopphil]

Thank you for this! Mine are arriving tomorrow!

[@Trohawkk]

same guitar here, ill have to do the same!

[@christopherdoucet4112]

What tuning did you put this in?

[@1-eye-willy]

i want to put some of those in my ibanez gio 7 string, i hope i dont have to route mine like that

[@Dgsterx]

I hope so too, I actually wasn't expecting that when I started the project. I have an Ibanez RG with aftermarket EMGs installed, so it should be much different than those. I'm sure it can be done. Also, someone else in these comments said they were able to do this without routing by sanding down the corners of the pickups themselves (instead of the guitar) and they were able to fit them in the factory cutouts. That had never occurred to me, and may be the easier route, just make sure you don't ruin the finish on the pretty pickups 😊

[@peroon6669]

Great... just a shame there isn't a before and after sound comparison...

[@diode86]

I just got them today but i didn't know there were 2 versions. I got the soapbar ones. I will need to widen the wholes to be able to place them, right? Is that some possible problem? Thank you in advance.

[@Dgsterx]

Hi there! I'm sorry to hear that! Oddly enough I made a similar mistake. I bought the humbucker style pickups like the ones in the video, but originally I planned to put them in my other JS22-7 that has soap bars in it. I couldn't really figure out how to make that work, but luckily my second JS22-7 (the one in the video) takes standard pickups. I was able to install them in there, but still had to widen the pickup slots. If the Jackson has regular pickups, but the Fishmans are soap bars, I'm sure it's possible, but it will take a lot of widening. I was able to do this fairly easily as the plastic pickup rings cover where I widened the slots. There are no pickup rings with the soap bars, so you have to be extra careful when widening to make sure it still looks clean when you're done. If the Jackson has soap bars, and the Fishmans are standard, that's the dilemma I had and I don't know how to make that work. I had to use a different guitar all together. Hope that helps!

[@diode86]

We finally made it somehow with Fishman moderns. Now to slow down your video to be able to wire it properly and it's giving us a headache lol. Thanks for the video again :D@@Dgsterx

[@danielpicon8012]

What fishman fluence modern pup model did you get? I see they have several versions, trying to understand if there’s a version that would actually fit. Don’t have these carpentry tools :D

[@Dgsterx]

Hi! I specifically bought the Fishman Fluence Modern 7 String pups (non-soap bar type). My understanding is that they have the "soap bar" and Non-soap bar styles to accommodate different guitars. However, I got the right set and still had to make modifications as the stock Jackson pups were slightly smaller in size. Unfortunately I don't think it's possible to put these in this particular guitar without the modifications, the only other guy I talked to that did this had to mod as well. Some of these Jacksons have the soap bar styles in them, so perhaps that experience may be different. However, I have not seen the FFM 7 String pups in that style. My recommendation is to get a cheap $40 Chicago Electric Dremel from Harbor Freight, that is what I used and it ended up working out great. I hope this answers your questions. Good luck!

[@vexedpixels]

These guitars do not fit capped humbuckers without modification. To get one’s that would fit, you’ll need their “open core” pickups, or from any other brand, an uncovered pickup, or to remove the pickup cover

[@giannispapazogloy5978]

Can you put Fishman Soapbar version in this guitar, if you don't like the pickup ring?

[@Dgsterx]

I suppose if you are able to widen the slots enough and keep it nice and clean then yes. My Dremel work wasn't the cleanest, so at the end the pickup rings covered some of that up. However, I'm not at all a professional or expert so I'm sure there's probably better ways to do it. I don't see why it wouldn't work if you have the right tools

[@footfingers5523]

Just installed fishman fluence open core in my jackson js22-7, stuff dont drop in easily. Did a little sanding on the pickup cavity and the pots holes to make them fit snuggly.

[@Dgsterx]

Nice! Well done! I definitely didn't expect to have to sand out the cavities either but it ended up working out in the end. This 12 min video actually took me about 2 weeks to finish 😂

[@footfingers5523]

Oh, i thought you did it in a day. Lol. I just cleaned and rewired my toggle switch, there’s this crackling sound when switching pickups or push/pull the tone and volume knobs this evening. Works great now. Fishman sounds great!

[@Dgsterx]

Awesome! They do sound great. This was my very first pickup swap, and I was only able to work on it and hour or two in the evenings, so it took me a bit. I made a lot of mistakes lol

[@PsycReaper]

I was thinking about getting them for my dot studio, it's a semihollow body though. I don't know if that'd make a difference

[@Dgsterx]

I've never worked on a hollow-body guitar before, but based on the picture below it doesn't seem like it would be too difficult. In fact, I had to spend a fair amount of time widening the pickup sockets out to make them fit. Looking at the Dot, it looks like you would only have to shave back some edges, at the top if at all, to get them to fit. It looks like less work than what I did in this video. Otherwise, mounting the pickups should be the same. How do the electronics/wiring look in the back of the guitar? Is there an access plate like solid-bodies? www.jazzguitar.be/forum/attachments/guitar-amps-gizmos/26877d1452301410-epiphone-broadway-file-1166-jpg

[@Dgsterx]

Looking at more pictures, I think the wiring would be much more difficult on the Dot due to the hollow body and no rear access plate. I can't really say what would be involved in that process, unfortunately

[@JediJingleMaker]

I am getting ready to put them in My Schecter

[@Dgsterx]

Nice! I'd love to hear how it turns out!

[@danielpicon8012]

Hey man! I got started with this project finally. Same guitar same pickups. I followed the one tone one volume diagram but the guitar still doesn’t work. I would imagine that the issues is in the 3 way pickup selector as that part is not clear on the diagram, I was wondering if you could tell me how you could connected the wires there. Cheers!

[@Dgsterx]

Hi Daniel! No problem, below is a Google Drive link to a close-up picture of the Jacskon 3 way selector switch. I essentially just wired it the same way it was originally wired with the stock pickups. drive.google.com/file/d/1_8hGmcfeW5TElw5svHJCQuj6U758GZ8I/view?usp=share_link In short, the 2 white wires that come from the pickups are connected to the 2 outside pins on both sides of the 3-way. Each wire is connected to 2 pins. The blue wire comes from the volume knob, grounds on the case of the switch, and is connected to both of the middle pins (see highlights in picture). I believe this is just a ground, it's only blue in my guitar because that's the color of wire I had on hand. If you don't know which white wire is which pickup, be sure to leave yourself plenty of extra slack in case you have to swap them. I only briefly mentioned it in the video, but I wired the switch backwards (the selector worked opposite directions) and had to go back to swap the wires and re-solder

[@danielpicon8012]

@@Dgsterx hey man thanks for getting back to me so quickly with the picture and extra info. I will get back to this project on the weekend but I can already see that I might have missed something there in regard to the pickup selector. Fortunately I did route the pickups correctly as far as I can tell. I will keep you posted! Perhaps I’ll make a video of my own! Cheers!

[@Dgsterx]

@@danielpicon8012 glad to hear it. Good luck, feel free to let me know how it goes!

[@danielpicon8012]

Yeah I think I also reversed the pickups on the switch xD kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ6spWNjgbNoaKM

[@Raigzz]

Did you have to make a cavity for the battery?

[@Dgsterx]

Hi @Craig Hazel ! No , I did not have to make any modification to the rear cavity. I added some padding to the battery and it still fit in the existing cavity without issue.

[@jlwzqw2008]

Do they make a solder less like the plug and play

[@Dgsterx]

I don't believe so. I know EMG makes some like that, but I've never seen that on the Fishmans unless they've added it recently

[@kofmatt]

Do you think this would work with the 8 string Jackson

[@Dgsterx]

Hi there! I'm not 100% sure on that. I would imagine that the process may be similar, but you will want to make sure to get one of their 8-string sets that will fit the guitar, either standard or "Soap bar Mount" www.fishman.com/fluence-8-string-pickups/

[@talla7615]

wait is it passive?

[@Dgsterx]

No. They are active. I install the battery wiring towards the end

[@changeme9952]

9.5 mm?=)

[@ryanmatte2710]

If possible, would be able to send over a pic or screenshot of your wiring, just having a bit of trouble with it

[@Dgsterx]

Sure thing! Below is a link to pics of the finished wiring. However, I had a little trouble too in that I had the 3-way switch wired backwards in these pictures, so I had to switch the 2 outside white wires. The pickups were just backwards when I flipped the selector switch, but they still worked correctly. It's kind of hard to see everything from the pics, but I hope these help you figure it out drive.google.com/drive/folders/1b7H10SjXxslQ6YDYBG_L11DPsC4ZS4ya?usp=share_link

[@ryanmatte2710]

@@Dgsterx 🎉🎉🎉 you are a lifesaver, guitar works perfectly now! Thank you!

[@Dgsterx]

@@ryanmatte2710 very cool, glad to hear that! If you record anything with it, feel free to come back and share. I'd love to hear how it sounds

[@343guiltyguitarist4]

Doing the same thing rn.

[@mrGrowl2843]

Can't find a wiring diagram for 2 volume's and 1 tone

[@Dgsterx]

Hi Maks R! No problem, I found it. Here is link to the wiring diagram for the Matt Heafy signature set - 2 Volume, 1 Tone. It's almost identical to the other Fluence sets, so it should work for any of them. www.fishman.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Matt-Heafy-2xVol-1xT-BNT-Toggle-9V.pdf

[@mrGrowl2843]

@@Dgsterx Thank you a lot! Another question, can I make it one volume and two tones instead of 2 volumes and one tone?

[@Dgsterx]

​@@mrGrowl2843 Happy to help! I'm not 100% sure on that one, but below is a link to ALL of the Fishman wiring diagrams. Some of those are 2 Volume/2 Tone setups. I'm sure it's possible to leave out one of the tone knobs and cross connect the 1 remaining tone knob to both pickups. I'm not sure exactly how to do that, but I'm thinking if you look at some of the 1V/1T AND 2V/2T diagrams you might be able to figure out how to combine them into a 2V/1T setup. Hope you figure it out! www.fishman.com/support-fluence-wiring-diagrams/

[@boostxXxpower]

Got them on my same guitar lol, except went ringless

[@Dgsterx]

Nice! Can you share a pic of what that looks like?

[@boostxXxpower]

How do I share the pic w u? I def got some pictures

[@Dgsterx]

@@boostxXxpower you can put them in something like Google Photos or Imgur to share a link or if you want you can email them to me - [e-mail]

[@boostxXxpower]

I sent thru email, lmk what u think

[@Dgsterx]

@@boostxXxpower my bad, I mistyped my email in my last comment.. sorry about that. I didn't get them, can you resend? I do want to check it out! [e-mail]

[@bullymaguire8458]

It's good but i stick with the stock pickups are great !! It's just the ears issues

[@beetleborg4171]

Meh I’ll stick with EMG

[@ronaldjosephweech2444]

Doogster! 😂😂😂

[@Dgsterx]

Yo! 🤘🏻