Fishman Fluence Modern vs. Classic Pickups SHOOTOUT! [4K]

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Today I’m doing a quick shootout of the Fishman Fluence Modern Humbuckers against the Fishman Fluence Classic Humbuckers! Which set of pickups do you like best? Let me know in the comments!
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Fishman Fluence Modern Humbuckers Demo:
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Fishman Fluence Classic Humbuckers Demo:
• Fishman Fluence Classi...
TIME STAMPS:
Bridge:
Modern
Voice 1 = Active
Voice 2 = Passive
Classic
Voice 1 = Vintage P.A.F.
Voice 2 = Classic Hot Rod
Neck:
Modern
Voice 1 = Active
Voice 2 = Passive
Classic
Voice 1 = Vintage P.A.F.
Voice 2 = Clear, airy chime
Full Mix:
01:21 Modern - Voice 1
01:32 Classic - Voice 1
01:42 Modern - Voice 2
01:53 Classic - Voice 2
Distorted Guitar Only
02:06 Modern - Bridge Voice 1
02:16 Classic - Bridge Voice 1
02:26 Modern - Bridge Voice 2
02:37 Classic - Bridge Voice 2
02:47 Modern - Both Voice 1
02:57 Classic - Both Voice 1
03:08 Modern - Both Voice 2
03:18 Classic - Both Voice 2
03:28 Modern - Neck Voice 1
03:38 Classic - Neck Voice 1
03:49 Modern - Neck Voice 2
03:59 Classic - Neck Voice 2
Clean Guitar Only
04:10 Modern - Bridge Voice 1
04:21 Classic - Bridge Voice 1
04:31 Modern - Bridge Voice 2
04:41 Classic - Bridge Voice 2
04:52 Modern - Both Voice 1
05:02 Classic - Both Voice 1
05:12 Modern - Both Voice 2
05:22 Classic - Both Voice 2
05:33 Modern - Neck Voice 1
05:43 Classic - Neck Voice 1
05:53 Modern - Neck Voice 2
06:04 Classic - Neck Voice 2
Tones: Peavey 6505+, Line 6 DT25, Two Notes Torpedo Live with Lancaster Audio Cab IR of a Carvin Legacy Cab
Guitar: Schecter Hellraiser C-1 with Fishman Fluence Modern and Classic Humbucker pickups (Drop C Tuning)
Bass: Squire Jaguar Bass with EMG PJX pickups (Drop C Tuning)
Drums: Superior Drummer 2.0 with Metal Machine EZX
DAW: Pro Tools 11
Video Editing: Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017
Camera: Panasonic GH4
Lens: Sigma 17-50mm F2.8 with Metabones Speed Booster XL 0.64x
#FishmanFluence #GuitarPickups #GearDemo #Moderns #Classics #Metal #Djent #ProgressiveMetal #SchecterGuitars

[@johnqpublic2013]

I've played for 40 years. "The Industry" is trying to "split hairs" in pushing products. Nanoscopic comparisons between products are futile. Frank Zappa said it decades ago... "Shut up and play your guitar." "The Industry" has been trying to sell the "Holy Grail" of tone for decades. A good amp, a good cab, a good guitar, good pickups, and lots of practice is the secret sauce. Plain and simple! Period! You younger generation of guitarists are led to believe if you keep dumping dollars to purchase the next latest and greatest product is the road to nirvana, (not the band). The world of guitar went from analog to digital, back to analog, then back to digital. Some guitarists know exactly what I'm saying.

[@GerryTrevino]

I guess I really missed the point of a guitar pickup shootout video by showing the differences between two products so that consumers won't HAVE to dump dollars into a product that might not be for them instead of basing it of the mentality "Shut up and play your guitar". What was I thinking?!

[@RTMvideos]

ok boomer

[@veglord4481]

Why so snarky? The guy makes an honest point. Its easy to get too into the gear loop.

[@RTMvideos]

@@veglord4481 Generally speaking his point may be correct, however it comes across as very condescending given that it's just a video comparing two different sets of guitar pickups. The whole point is that people who are interested in these pickups can determine how they sound WITHOUT buying both and dumping tons of money into the endless toan road.

[@GerryTrevino]

@@veglord4481 Not trying to be snarky (okay, maybe a little), but while I totally get this guy's point, I feel like this is hardly the place for that. That's like if I went to a car dealership and started going up to each costumer and telling them that they were stupid for trying to decide between Car A and Car B while imploring that a bicycle can do the same job just fine. Not once in the video did I claim that these pickups were better or worse than anything else on the market or that focusing on gear is going to make you a better guitarist. Like, sorry for letting this free content disappoint you...

[@ayecapn]

I do not understand why you don't have more subscribers. I needed this video today.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thanks man, I appreciate that! If you'd like to help out, share this video with a friend! 🙏🏼

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[@bgrumbine]

The riff you’re playing here is dope man. I’ve got a set of the classic open cores and I’d like to get a set of the moderns too. This is by far the most in-depth demo and comparison of the two sets available that I’ve found and it’s been immensely helpful.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you for the kind words! Glad I was able to help!

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[@vocalead]

Thanks for making this and including the clean tones, I don't understand why every other reviewer thinks playing on full blown distortion is going to demonstrate anything at all about these pickups, even FIshman didn't bother doing a thorough demonstration.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you for taking the time to watch one of my videos! Yeah, gotta have the clean tones too. Maybe Fishman will hire me at some point to make some demos for them. 👀 If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@cchavez248]

The pickups were closer in sound to one another than I would have thought! That said, I prefer the sound of the classics because they were sweeter with the clean sounds. The moderns were a but tighter in the low-mids which seemed to be a bit snappier for the djent style, but the cleans had the "brangy" clang that all other high-output pickups seem to produce using clean amp settings. Since I don't play djent, the classics were much more suited to my tastes and playing style! thx

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you for watching! That's actually a great way of describing the pickups, I hope you ended up enjoying the Classics. If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@JeighNeither]

Yeah, the modern clean tone has that stale quality active's can be bashed for, although I've never had them in a guitar to hear w/my own ears. The classics though, if you get the SS single width for a Strat HSS configuration, the tone is phenomenal. I got them because I had to swap out my Strat body to an ultra light wood because of back problems & was told the more steady & powerful signal from actives would negate the resonance you can get with Paulownia. Holy wow, did I mistakenly walk into the best tone I've ever had. I have that chime-y bell like clean tone, & then I can fool around & crank out metal. Dream come true.

[@michaelkasper5058]

Dude you are an absolute freaking legend, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on some Fishman's for a custom build and this was exactly what I needed to make sure I'm getting exactly the right pickups.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thanks for the kind words and for watching my video! I'm curious though, which set did you end up with?

[@michaelkasper5058]

@@GerryTrevino I'm going to put a Classic on the bridge, and a Modern on the neck :) Then with push/pull tone pots and a three-way switch, I get 6 great options: Modern1, Modern2, Classic1, Classic2, Both1, Both2. Plus with two volume knobs, that gives me a zillion extra ways to mix both of them. I love the cleans, and I ran your raw DI files through my custom processing setup on my DAW and it sounded fantastic for the distortion, so, I'm excited about that.

[@GerryTrevino]

@@michaelkasper5058 Oh cool, that sounds like it's going to be such a sick combo!

[@michaelkasper5058]

@@GerryTrevino Yeah, it's gonna be awesome! I want something flexible and I love the Classic cleans, so, using one of each seems like the best approach

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[@MarkTiarra]

I think I'm feeling the classics more.

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@MarkTiarra]

@@GerryTrevino sounds great!!! Listening to second chance now.

[@GerryTrevino]

@@MarkTiarra Thank you so much!

[@cironicholas526]

I spaced out for a bit and forgot I was watching a pickup demo. Just sat there enjoying the tasty riffs. Subscribed

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you so much, that means a lot!

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[@MikaTarkela]

So cool to finally find a video of the golden Fluence Moderns! I'm thinking of purchasing them for a 7-string headless custom which is being built at the moment and I'm so excited! Both pickups sounds good for different applications. The clean parts were beautiful!

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you! Hope your 7-string headless custom came out great!

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[@mcshreddy7125]

Absolutely perfectly done shootout! Sick riff too. Thanks a lot for making this. Both sound great, but for me it's the classics all the way. To my ears the moderns are relatively tight, which can definitely be a plus, but I love the messier sound of the classics on your first riff, and I think they seem warmer and richer on the clean tones.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you for the kind words! I also personally prefer the Classics!

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[@SteveKuhMusic]

They both sound great But honestly I cannot tell that there’s a big difference.

[@henriquemontalvao8492]

Me neither. I'd go with the classic for the looks.

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@jellyfishinterrupted8085]

same here, it seems that distortion reduces the differences to the 'feel' of the player, not the one listening

[@3badthebad]

not in the distortion but there’s a massive difference in the clean tones

[@SO-bp2uc]

I wonder if there’s a big difference in output

[@charlesclark4475]

Thx for being in C. Thats what I am set to and I wanted that exact sound

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@Virtual-Media]

Really wish Fishman would come out with a set that had that Chimy Punchy sound of an EVH pick up.

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@epicphonelilly]

this has to be the best A/B comparison i've seen for these pickups. in the 6505+ and the hellraiser i would go for the modern set

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you so much!

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[@michaelinglis567]

Absolutely love my modern 7's. I have started to play that guitar with moderns more than my schecter with a JB/59 set. They both sound great but when you get the Fishmans set up with all the options selectable from toggle switches and a lightly heavier string gauge then normal they just sound so fucking good and can do ANY tone. They only real drawback to Fishmans(if you have them set up right) is that being active they don't play well with my fuzz face and treble booster that I built. Those older style pedals really need a colder signal. But the Fishmans work amazingly well with all my other effects. But with the Fishmans you really don't need a boost. The preamp built into the pickups is the boost. The tone I get from the Fishmans in my Ltd going into my Marshall DSL100HR is perfect in every channel. I just roll back the volume a bit and the tone a tiny bit and the roll up the volume when I want a boost. They honestly sound and feel amazing to play. But I hated them the first year I had them. It took a lot of getting used to what worked and what didn't but I mainly just needed to put a bit heavier gauges on that guitar and tune down a semitone to Eb (Bb on a 7). With my regular gauges (10-48 with a 68 for b) the Fishmans sounded thin. Not bad just not as good as what I knew they could sound like. So I tried out a bunch of gauges until I came up with the perfect set that sounds so fucking good with the moderns, and they really can get any tone now(yes it was a pain in the ass havong to try new gauges etc. but it was 100% wothout a doubt worth it and im sure anyone else would agree if they got to play a foshman equipt guitar set up corre tly for fishmans).The gauges i use now for the 25.5 scale Ltd with Fishman moderns are 105, 14, 18, 26, 38, 50, 68. But tuned a half step down/Eb (Bb for a 7 string) the tension is very very similar to the tension youd get with a 10-48 set in standard tuning on a 25.5 scale guitar. Anyways I just wanted to share my experience. I think that Gibson scale guitars (24.75") like lee pauls would be PERFECT for Fishmans cause you could use slightly heavier gauges and still have normal tension in standard. Plus Les Paul's are warmer sounding guitars. Both of those factors make Les Paul style guitars perfect for fishman pickups. You could use regular gauges on a fender scale (25.5") guitar with Fishmans for sure. It's not a bad sound by any means it's just a tiny bit thin (the hf tilt can help with that) but its not as good as Fishmans can sound like with the ideal scale length or gauges. I wish I knew that at first so I could have set up my guitar properly for Fishmans to begin with. They literally sound so good now that I'm upset at the fact that I missed out on a whole year of great tone cause I didn't know that my regular 10-48's on a 25.5 scale wasnt ideal fir fishmans. I'm certain there's people who get a great tone with Fishmans on a 25.5 scale in standard with 10's. Again it wasn't a bad tone at all it just wasn't as good as I now know they can sound.

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@PrakharSrivastav]

Thanks for sharing your experience . I found it very valuable

[@ecumenicalheretic]

Both worked great with distortion, but I actually enjoyed more the clean tones from the classic on the bridge and the modern on the neck

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@Hollywood14895]

I bought the moderns on accident! Wanted the classic but to be honest I can get a classic sound out of the modern set! There awesome pickups! I have Emg Zach Wylde and another with the Emg Hetfields ! The fishmans sounds a lot better! Nice video!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@luxserpentis]

Fantastic video! Wish there were more reviews like this one being made where I can test which product sounds better through my own setup.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you!

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[@beatboxbill]

The other video comparison of the Duncan's vs. Fishman Classics made me buy a set of the Classics. My main rhythm tone has been Voice 1 (Bridge) to an ENGL Savage preset by Leon Todd on the AXEFX. I'm so thankful for you guys on KZbin helping out other musicians find their right tone.

[@GerryTrevino]

Wow, thank you.That means a lot! That sounds like a killer setup. Thank you for helping out KZbinrs by watching their videos!

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[@calibporteous452]

You been on here for 5 years with content like this and only have 2.7k subs?? Straight up crime😶 #subbed

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you so very much!

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[@creatio1]

Thank you so much for the vid and the DIs - that was the best idea you could have 😁 It helped me so much with my decision ❤ cheers!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@creatio1]

@@GerryTrevino I surely will 😁

[@GerryTrevino]

@@creatio1 Thanks! 😁

[@DearlyDeparted]

BEST A/B video. Thanks for making me feel better about picking up some classics!!

[@GerryTrevino]

Thanks for the kind words and for watching my video! I actually prefer the Classics over the Moderns!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@AudioBoi1]

Cleans with modern sounded much more linear and clean, while classic sounded a little resonance-y

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@kodyepidemic]

Big early BFMV vibes from the riffage.

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@dr.dawshy8211]

It would be awesome to compare the Will adler Signature fishman pickups with the classics, there is no a video with a direct comparision, because they sound passive but with definition, but i dont know who wins in the "passive" tones

[@GerryTrevino]

That's a great idea for a future video! Thanks for watching. If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@cjjams7930]

Also my wolf like ears detect a slight more crispy sound from the classics, while I feel the moderns have more of a mids fuzz sound coming through imo

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@dr.dawshy8211]

If i want that power of active sounds and definition, but i also want the sweetness and punch of a pickup like the JB of seymour duncan, what pickup would you recomend?

[@GerryTrevino]

The Classics hands down. Thanks for watching, if you liked this consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@Zombie_13x33]

after watching many videos and re watching this particular video ive decided i really like the mids on the classics voicing 1. the moderns are sick too but seem more bassy with less mids. im by no means a pro but just a hobbyist lol.

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[@flooptydoo1178]

I just bought a Schecter C-1 on craigslist. This is the perfect video - thanks!

[@GerryTrevino]

Nice! I hope you love it. Thank you!

[@livemusic200]

My C-1 was my daily player for nearly 2 years before I got my PRS. That said, I still come back to the C-1 regularly.

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[@martinemesguitar]

The classics now have a third voice, a single coil tone.

[@GerryTrevino]

That is correct!

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[@brianburke808]

AFAIK, *all* the fluence have the option for single coil via a solder point except the abasi models, which have a quick connect for single coil.

[@jhmusic1]

@@brianburke808 The coil splitting tabs at the base of the pickups are different than the 3rd voicing. When you use the tabs to split the pickup it's just splitting the pickup, north or south coil, in whichever voicing is selected, so you're getting half a pickup in voice 1 or voice 2. Voice 3 is a separate voicing made to sound exactly like a real single coil and differs a pretty good amount from a split voice 1 or 2

[@brianburke808]

@@jhmusic1 That's interesting. Are you sure about that? I have the abasi models, and the "3rd voice" single coil tone is definitely a straight up coil split, else Fishman programmed in a volume drop and some 60 cycle hum :D. The "voice 3" marketing hype on that model seems to be just that. The pickups are great, though.

[@ericvalverderosado2046]

I think I keep the modern bridge and the classic neck, the bridge got the attack I need for rythim distorsion and the neck have the roundness for cleans...will make the perfect match

[@GerryTrevino]

That sounds like a great combo!

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[@davidleonreyes]

For my money, it'll have to be the classics. The moderns sound very nice on a clean setting. But the classics bring it on the distorted channel.

[@GerryTrevino]

I really like the Classics too!

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[@krimsworld]

Greg Koch demonstrated the selling points of the Classics in 11 minutes of mostly talking. You've demonstrated the selling points of the Moderns in under 5 minutes of no talking. Well done, sir.

[@GerryTrevino]

Haha I appreciate that! 🙏 Thank you for watching, if you liked this consider checking out my recent video on my live rig, I do a LOT more talking in that one. 😅 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ep-0d6FpnJpgaqMsi=SyzV-xGRjb295EmI

[@eph_kni]

Thanks to you, i'm gonna get the classics since the DI's sounded best with my 5150. but first i'm gonna watch that Fluence Classic vs Seymour Duncan video. oh! a suggestion: would you be down to do a Duncan Slug comparison?

[@GerryTrevino]

Awesome, yeah the Classics are great! I'm actually selling the exact set that I demoed in this video if you're interested! reverb.com/item/47544316-fishman-fluence-classic-6-string-humbucker-pickups I would totally be down to do a Duncan Slug comparison!

[@sebastianxu9084]

That’s some high quality content dude! Love the dirty tones from modern and cleans from classic....tough call;(

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you! Right? Both are great!

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[@HimothyOHooligan]

This video is done really well. Good shit.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you so much!

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[@sunnys3325]

Great comparison vid man! Thank you!

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[@Tognar]

The differences aren’t dramatic. Do the differences come across more in feel while playing the different PUs and voicings? Suggestion: Add a driven amp, crunch tone and roll off to clean. That’s the test of a good pickup if it can clean up well without loosing highs.

[@GerryTrevino]

The Moderns have more of an immediate response to them while the Classics have a bit more of a sag feeling.

[@jayseb]

Hard to say as the sound of the video isn't that great to start with (with respect - so much compression). Listening in my studio didn't help either. Maybe next time.

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[@Excellerator420]

I still wish I could find someone with a Keith Merrow pickup in a hellraiser. I like how the classics even out the brightness of the hellraiser but also like the tone of the moderns since it brings out deffinition on the low end. I'm thinking since the Merrow's were designed with his signature Schecter they should be perfect for the hellraiser but that price tag is a rough gamble lol. Room mate put the Will Adler's in his Schecter Demon and they sound perfect in that setup. I might just have to bite the bullet and try it.

[@GerryTrevino]

Hopefully one day I'll be able to demo the Keith Merrow pickups, but until then I doubt you'll be disappointed. Fishman pickups are pretty incredible!

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[@robbysipahutar944]

Hey thanks man! This is great! IMHO I would sacrifice the gains of the modern for the cleans of the classic. Now I know which pickup to get for the upgrade of my Ibanez RC720. Subscribed!

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank YOU! Glad I was able to help out!

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[@ricardadn]

Molt bé, moltes gràcies!!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@Zombie_13x33]

Sick riffs man

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@GanthardBlack]

Were the moderns in this video the ceramics or alnicos

[@GerryTrevino]

Ceramic in the bridge and Alnico in the neck! If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@luckyspook8407]

Great demonstration! Both sound good. I have a schecter with modern set, looking at the new 2020 charvel/jackson axes with open core classics, probably will get one with classics just for a change.Keep rockin!

[@GerryTrevino]

Oh, awesome! Yeah, I actually put the Classics back in one of my guitars recently and I think I like them more than the moderns. Thanks for watching!

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[@user-pz1ib2qt8v]

nice comparison

[@newbyguitarofficial1142]

Super good video man

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you my dude! 🙏

[@thepowerofshazam]

Jeez, they both sound really good but overall I’d go with modern set; they have more oomph BUT that vintage hot rod voicing on the classics was pretty sweet, too!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@FrancisMetal]

distorted are very similar, but I listen a bit of difference ONLY when you activated both together.

[@GerryTrevino]

Interesting, I hope the video was at least a little helpful! Thanks for watching.

[@FrancisMetal]

@@GerryTrevino thanks to you!

[@surfrby8876]

Nice demo ,I m currently looking at a guitar with this set in them , haven’t had a chance to play it yet, I found a subtle difference between the modern and classic, both are good , now I know these handle High gain and have beautiful cleans but how are they with hard rock and crunch ? Tone is always in the players hands and tweaking knobs , but these are really interesting

[@GerryTrevino]

Thanks! The Classics are really great for the most diversity. Voice 2 can handle the hard rock/metal stuff, but Voice 1 will be great for those crunch tones since they're voiced after a PAF sound. I hope that helps, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@glytch5]

I am so confused... when you go to purchase a modern humbucker, some say alnico, and some say ceramic... I thought these were active pickups? and I thought they had changeable voicings? Can someone make me understand this.

[@GerryTrevino]

To sum up your questions...that is all true haha. Typically when you buy the Fishman Fluence Modern set, it comes packed with a ceramic pickup and an alnico pickup (typically the ceramic goes in the bridge and the alnico goes in the neck, although you can put which ever one in what ever pickup position that you'd like hence why they sell them separately, that's the way I had them set up in this video). While it's true that you need a battery for these pickups, calling them straight up active pickups really does them injustice since they also offer other types of Fluence models such as the Classic Humbuckers and the Strat set. It you think of them as powered pickups and that the battery is just there to power the technology, I think it makes much more since. And with that technology, these pickups can offer different voicings. The Modern set can switch between an Active voice and a Passive voice, while the Classic set bridge pickup can switch between a Vintage P.A.F. voice and a Hot Rodded voice and the neck pickup can switch between a Vintage P.A.F voice and an Airy Chime voice. All the different sets of pickups that Fishman offer can vary between what the voicings can be. I hope that helps! If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@cosmicsea7]

I like both. The Moderns have a bit more bass to them, and the Classics have a little more bite in the mix, mids are more present. Would love to also hear how these sound with leads to see how much sustain they can carry.

[@GerryTrevino]

Maybe one day! I'm terrible with leads though...

[@cosmicsea7]

@@GerryTrevino its okay. Your rhythm sounds very tight. :) Maybe later you can invite a guest to demo the leads?

[@GerryTrevino]

@@cosmicsea7 Thank you! That actually sounds like a great idea!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@prophetsbourne1136]

Thank you for doing the direct comparison!! I’m trying to decide which to buy and you helped me decide on the Classic! What is the difference between the Classic and the Classic Open Core Humbuckers!?!

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank YOU for watching my video! I'm not 100% sure, but I think that they're only aesthetically different, other than that, I think they're the same! I hope that helps, if you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@vincechook]

Awesome video and comparison

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you so much! If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@cjjams7930]

Oh hey fellow schecter brother thought I recognized you haha

[@GerryTrevino]

Hahaha hey there!

[@JuanFernandez-vy8fd]

i like the n1 voice on the modern and the 2nd on the classic

[@GerryTrevino]

Hmmm, that would be cool if we could combine both of them somehow! Thanks for watching!

[@JuanFernandez-vy8fd]

@@GerryTrevino men, how would you rate the schecter blackjack sls elite fr with the fishman's? Have you listened to it? I actually own a schecter blackjack atx c1 fr wich got 2 blackouts (i am quite happy with it) but i think i need change

[@GerryTrevino]

@@JuanFernandez-vy8fd I haven't played that exact guitar myself, but I'm sure its great! If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@the.real.hamburgler]

Can you do lamb of god tones on the classic? I wanted to get the willie adler set but i dont like the color.

[@GerryTrevino]

Voice 2 on the bridge pickup can definitely handle some metal territory! If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@marcelopescuma]

Didn’t notice a lot of difference... but great video!! Thank you vm

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you for watching!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@paulsayed]

anyone try to mix and match the classics and modern? Like maybe classics on the neck, modern on the bridge?

[@GerryTrevino]

That could be a sick combo!

[@R3TR0R4V3]

Great idea.. If they weren't so damn pricey, it would be more feasible, but with sets at $350 a pop (+ or -), it's expensive endeavor having to buy both!

[@GerryTrevino]

@Marcus Cromwell Sounds like a sick combo!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@catcancrunch7260]

Great comparison upload, can I tell the difference? No to be honest?

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@entity9588]

The Moderns on the first example sit in the mix better for sure. Moderns are better in the other examples as well IMO, especially the clean tones.

[@GerryTrevino]

Nice observation! If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@entity9588]

@@GerryTrevino Sure dude. I'll check you out on Tidal

[@GerryTrevino]

@@entity9588 Thank you so much!

[@entity9588]

@@GerryTrevino You're welcome man and that is a killer EP! Love every song on it. Def gonna check out your other stuff.

[@GerryTrevino]

@@entity9588 🙏🙏🙏

[@ChetM0NEY]

Great video! Been looking at these pickup for the last year to put into my minarik! Hope you get a lot of traction off this video! Are you able to mix the two pickup sets?

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you! Absolutely you can! The Fishman Fluence pickups are similar to EMGs in that you can swap them out for different pickups since they use a connector system.

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@ShapeShifterPB]

Hey man Ive got a question. I'm trying to pick between the tosin abasi and the classics for a good Architects tone. What would you suggest?

[@GerryTrevino]

I would go with the Tosin Abasi set. I feel like that would be great for achiever those use single note riffs and such! Thanks for watching, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@joseeeemartiiiin]

Are your Fishman Fluence Modern pickups ceramic or alnico or mix of both? Thanks! Great tone btw🥶

[@GerryTrevino]

The set comes with one of each and typically the Ceramic goes in the bridge and the Alnico in the neck (like I did for this video), but I've had some great results with the Alnico in the bridge! Hope that helps. Thanks for watching, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! bit.ly/3dKJ6Fi

[@joseeeemartiiiin]

Thanks man!

[@Danny.B82]

Which pickups do you prefer ??

[@GerryTrevino]

I prefer the moderns!

[@GerryTrevino]

If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@colebertram8482]

I'm interested in using a modern alnico in the bridge and a classic in the neck ? Would that work ?

[@GerryTrevino]

That would totally work, I've actually done this myself! I really liked the Alnico in the bridge, but I was eh about the Ceramic in the neck. If I were to get a pair of moderns again, I'd probably get them both Alnico. Hope that helps, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! bit.ly/3dKJ6Fi

[@colebertram8482]

@@GerryTrevino that's really good to know. I own the moderns in ceramic and I like them a lot . I enjoy the voicing but ive always said these would be the best pickups if they were just dialed back slightly . So I defo want to try the alnicos. Thanks a lot I'll check that out.

[@GerryTrevino]

@@colebertram8482 Thank YOU for watching!

[@JoelEnVrac]

Needed to listen many times to compare but for me, listening with Sony MDR1000X the result is: Modern Active > Clasiic Voice 1 > Classic Voice 2 > Modern Passive Unfortunatly, the saturated effect you're using is killing the spirit of each mics. Can't hear a lot of diffs. Had better diffs with other videos for overdrive.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thanks for watching, sorry this video disappointed you.

[@JoelEnVrac]

@@GerryTrevinoIt's ok as in clean mode I can hear a lot of differences ! 👍

[@rhitosparsha]

Hey Gerry! Great comparison. I had a question for you that is somewhat related to this video. I'm about to go for a custom 8 string build soon, and currently deciding between different pickups. I was initially planning to go for the DiMarzio Ionizers, but was told that Dimarzios have a huge wait time currently so unfortunately can't get them. After considering all the factors, I have narrowed down my choices to the *Seymour Duncan Alpha Omega* set, and the *Fishman Fluence Modern* set. Since you have experience with both these sets, how do you think they would compare? I intend to play music that is similar to Periphery, Monuments, etc., but some versatility would be great as well. I want something that is tight and articulate with a good amount of dynamics. And also, since the Fluence Modern set has blades instead of individual pole pieces, they can be used in a multiscale guitar as well. Whereas the Alpha Omega can't be used in a multiscale. So my decision to go for a straight or multiscale is dependent on the pickup choice as well. So where do you think both the pickups stand in terms of my needs? And also I heard that the Fluence Moderns eat up batteries very quickly in comparison to say an EMG set. Is that true? Apologies for the long comment and I'd be grateful for your insights. Cheers!

[@GerryTrevino]

Hey there, thank you for taking the time to watch one of my videos and congrats on your custom 8 string build! In my honest opinion, as far as versatility goes between those two sets, I'd go fo the Alpha/Omega set. The Moderns are wonderful as far as being HD versions of the EMG 81/85 set, but the Alpha/Omega are much more versatile. Now, being that you need soap bars for your build, I'd say go with the Tosin Abasi Fluence set. They are very modernly voiced and should get you what you need as far as tones go. I prefer them much more over the Moderns. While I don't have a proper demo of them as of yet, I do have them in a few of my guitars and used them for the entirety of my solo EP. As far as battery goes, I don't think that's true that they eat up batteries quickly. They seem about the same to me! I hope that helps. If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@rhitosparsha]

@@GerryTrevino Hey man! Thanks a lot for the detailed answer! Thanks for your suggestion about the Tosin set. I looked at some reviews and I really agree with your thoughts about its versatility. I really like the sounds, and the split coil voice is sick. And since they're actually somewhat cheaper than the Alpha Omega set, I might end up going for them. And yes, I have listened to your EP already (from the Helix patches video) and liked it a lot. I like the tones you were getting, so knowing they were coming from the Tosin set is awesome. It'd be great to see a walkthrough of them at some point. And on a related note, would love to see more long-format videos from you soon. Thanks again!

[@GerryTrevino]

@@rhitosparsha No problem, feel free to ask me questions anytime! Thank you for taking the time to listen to some of my music and I apologize for the overabundance of KZbin shorts lately. I really want to get back into making long-format videos again, butI'm in-between places at the moment which makes trying to accomplish that quite difficult!

[@TheK20sedan]

Which ones did you like more? Are the classics as good as the moderns? Are the classics good enough for metal and to use a Maxon od808 with

[@GerryTrevino]

They're really two different flavors for different applications. The Moderns are definitely better suited for metal music, but that's not to say that the Classics can get into metal territory themselves, specifically voice 2 of the bridge pickup. A Maxon OD808 will definitely help with the classics! It's hard to pick, I love them both! If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@LottimusMaximus]

Weird, I’m a metal guy and I liked the classic the best :)

[@GerryTrevino]

I'm a metal guy too and I also prefer the Classics to the Moderns. Thanks for watching, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@carlosgongil]

Hello, thanks for the video. Which set do think more versatile, for metal, blues, cleans. It's for an Esp Eclipse

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you for watching! Definitely the Classics. If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@m.e.c.j.5125]

Obviously the subtle differences/nuances are far more noticeable with the clean tones. That being said, I'd have to vote for the Classic set. The modern set sounds dull; lifeless; scooped; and muddy. Thanks for the review. I've been researching these since they were released, hoping to put a set of Classics in a EVH Wolfgang Special, i intend to buy soon.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you for watching! I really like the Classics too!

[@m.e.c.j.5125]

@@GerryTrevino A little of topic but, are you Pinoy/Filipino ?

[@GerryTrevino]

@@m.e.c.j.5125 Nope!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@LILJOKER2341]

i personally like the sound of the Classics more, they have more of a clearer/ brighter sound than the moderns. ALSO i love the melodic cleans you played in the video. made me feel all types of sad

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@Titantitan001]

Idk mate I thought the moderns had more of the crisp tones where the classics had a bit more bite. Both of them sound great but I think classics would sound better with this type of music whereas I could see those moderns being amazing for shoegaze and I think they would play nice with some reverb Also bite as I mean they sounded more “gainy” like theres that traditional rasp on the tail end of the signal. I’d love to discuss more. I’m making a decision between these two in the coming weeks.

[@GerryTrevino]

If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@caseywilson3124]

How much work is it to switch between the two sets of pickups? I've got a Jackson now that came with the classics and want to switch them for the moderns

[@GerryTrevino]

It should pretty easy! Fishman Fluence pickups use pin connectors, similar to what you would see in EMG pickups. I hope that helps, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@wallysef5653]

What about a modern / Bridge and classic / Neck ?

[@GerryTrevino]

That sounds like that could be a sick combo!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@Meehtesh]

Which prefer you for all genre,clean tone rock metal

[@GerryTrevino]

The Fishmans

[@radiohead102]

Great video, great playing!

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you!

[@GerryTrevino]

If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@d77sauce]

Yaaaay ty dude

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank YOU dude!

[@megacahh870]

You need more subs!

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@GerryTrevino]

If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@c3N3q]

Nice job with the diagrams.

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you! Consider checking out my EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@Zombie_13x33]

teach us this lick please. i cant do it by ear yet

[@GerryTrevino]

I'm not a very good teacher. 😅 Thank you for watching!

[@Reaper13137]

Yo! Dude what tuning did u use? Do u think the classics would fit for drop A?

[@GerryTrevino]

For this demo, I was in Drop C! Yeah, I'd say so. They're overall pretty tight and not to mention that they offer the Open Core Classics in 6, 7 and 8-string configurations. If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@jacobmarcelino3584]

I was about to comment that 😂. I’m wondering if the clean tones are good in drop a

[@clubpequenotigre5524]

great job thanks

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank YOU for watching!

[@GerryTrevino]

If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@dpark551]

Dude where did you find that Schecter? She's a beaut.

[@GerryTrevino]

I think I replied to your email about this!

[@dpark551]

Gerry Trevino yes you did! Thanks!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@Wargasm644]

Honestly, you could tweak the amp to get them all pretty close. You’ll get a bit more out of the actives obviously, but not a huge difference here. Just my opinion.

[@GerryTrevino]

To each their own! If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@zhudewawiryadi6421]

Do you have wiring diagram for 5 way super switch?

[@GerryTrevino]

Yes! Just note that this isn't for official use. drive.google.com/open?id=1kZ51pZ_bI99vtZCYgBsCv1pXVuGs_Nmz

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@paradiswest4395]

I like the classic tones better.

[@GerryTrevino]

I'm a big fan of the Classics too! Thank you for watching, if you liked this consider checking out my recent video on my live rig: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ep-0d6FpnJpgaqMsi=7a-HNB4Mmf0Am7H0

[@blainethemono19]

I have the Charvel SoCal Pro 2 with the Classics. They are great for everything except the high frets on the high E with distortion. It sounds like they are SCREAMING hot in all voices unless I take the tone knob wayyy down. Any advice?

[@GerryTrevino]

Because of the clearness that Fishman Fluence pickups offer, sometimes things like the high end can be too much if you're used to things like passive pickups. I'd suggest either adjusting your amp settings or engaging the High Frequency tilt option on Fluences to control some of the high end. Depending on the revision of your classics, this diagram might differ from your set, but this pretty much explains it/shows you how to wire it. www.fishman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Classic_Humbuckers_Rev46_Connection_Functions_V3.pdf I hope that helps, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@blainethemono19]

@@GerryTrevino Thanks for the reply dude! Yeah they sound great clean, I noticed when I use stomps that push mids (Tubescreamer) is when it gets too much. The one video I found on the Tilt seems to cut too much back. I think I'm gonna stick with rolling the tone back and using different patches I go higher. Keep it up man!

[@GerryTrevino]

@@blainethemono19 Anytime! Rolling the tone works too, you can always wire the HFT to a push pull pot or a switch so that you don't have to permanently live with it either!

[@franciscolomeli2765]

EMG Bonebreaker please!!

[@GerryTrevino]

If enough people want to see that video, I'll do it!

[@GerryTrevino]

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[@joesguitarvideos1677]

I liked voice 2 on the classics the best

[@GerryTrevino]

Nice!

[@GerryTrevino]

If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@primoinfernal]

Hi, great videos. Do you think it is a good investment to change the Seymour Duncan Distortion set for the Fishman Fluence Classic in a LTD MH1000FR guitar? Is it worth it? thanks

[@GerryTrevino]

It depends on what you're looking for sound-wise. The Seymour Duncan Distortion and the Fishman Fluence Classics are two totally different sounding beasts, but my money is on the Fishmans currently!

[@GerryTrevino]

If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@Reaper-cd8yj]

What song are you playing on the first comparison??????

[@GerryTrevino]

Idk, some old composition I made some time ago! soundcloud.com/gerrytrevino/fishman-fluence-modern-vs-classic-humbuckers?in=gerrytrevino/sets/youtube-2019 Thanks for watching, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@gngrblls2thwall]

I can barely tell the difference with distortion, but to the extent I can hear a difference modern is a tiny bit better. Clean, classic sounds massively better. Modern clean sounds lifeless.

[@GerryTrevino]

Try downloading the DIs from the description and running them through your own rig! Thanks for watching, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@tbash96]

Hello just stumbled on this video. Was wondeing which you prefer with drop tunings? Ive been running my guitar with Classics jn drop B-C range. Am looking at dropping down to drip A and G#. Thanks in advanced

[@GerryTrevino]

I used to have a set of Classics in a Schecter Hellraiser tuned to drop C and it was glorious! I haven't tried it in Drop A or lower, but I'm sure it'll retain all of the clarity. Thanks for watching!

[@Stretchwreckedem469]

The passive voicings definitely sounded incredible and miles better than the active clean tone.

[@GerryTrevino]

To each their own! If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@Sierra-xi2ty]

What’s the riff?

[@GerryTrevino]

Something I wrote a long time ago!

[@Sierra-xi2ty]

@@GerryTrevino thanks for the reply. The riff is awesome. What’s the tuning if you don’t mind me asking.

[@GerryTrevino]

@@Sierra-xi2ty Thank YOU for watching my video! It's in Drop C. If you like the way I play, consider checking out my solo EP: li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@rifflibrary8681]

Are the modern pickups alnico or Ceramic?

[@michaelshane9726]

one of each

[@GerryTrevino]

What Michael said. The Modern set comes with 1 alnico and 1 ceramic pickup and traditionally the alnico is used in the neck position and the ceramic is used in the bridge position. That's the way I used them for this demo!

[@GerryTrevino]

If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@lo3572]

Amazing demo - only leads are missing

[@GerryTrevino]

Thank you! I'm terrible at leads, but consider checking out my EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@EXISTENCETR]

Modern better sounding for me

[@GerryTrevino]

Nice!

[@mikegroismansimchaevents8946]

Fishman sounds better

[@GerryTrevino]

Heck yeah! If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@stephenvale937]

I wasnt watching this video but everytime heard something i liked, I looked over Md it was the classics. Case closed

[@GerryTrevino]

The Classics are really good and underrated! If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e

[@stephenvale937]

@@GerryTrevino yeah I'm building a Warmoth Koa Jazzmaster with a floyd on at present, think the classics will be a good match for it. Only one way to find out :) Thanks for the link, I'll be sure to check that out

[@GerryTrevino]

@@stephenvale937 Nice, sounds like it'll be a killer guitar! 🤘