Fitness Testing for a Junior Cyclist

[@andrewrjacobs]

Great to see you back at it. Would love to see a recap of the trip. Highs, lows, what you would do differently next time. Commentary on the racing, how it compares to racing back home and what can we do to improve our local racing scene. It looked like so much fun!!!

[@JoshNishitani]

agree with you. 100% vo2peak is definitely trainable, my first year of running I recorded a vo2peak of 57 ml/kg/min and a couple years later got 72 ml/kg/min, I probably won't get much higher but my lactate threshold numbers have been improving gradually

[@michaelquinlan4817]

Loved that thanks for sharing. Fitness nerding is one of my favourite things and cycling nerding is even better!

[@ashcameron7677]

Haha that Jos kid dropped me up Boddington hill last Saturday. He was looking strong.

[@gac4460]

Good to see Phil again, use to race with him mid ninties, decent climber, all round top bloke

[@gabebikes]

This is a really awesome video! Cool to see where you ride/loop.

[@CharlieCarbsandCycling]

Vo2 max also obviously changes massively if you can lose 3-4 kg

[@XX-is7ps]

Its a flawed metric, it would be more accurate if calculated against lean body mass rather than total body mass. In isolation it means next to nothing, since it doesn't consider other physioligcal factors such as fractional utilisation. As Jesse points out, basing decisions just on vo2max is a pretty bad idea. Its what they call a "necessary but insufficient" factor - that is a high vo2max power is important but its not sufficient on its own to guarantee high performance.

[@nerocoaching]

Yeh true. My suspicion is they actually want the power data, but asking for riders power data is pointless because it could all be made up or inaccurate. So telling riders they need to get a VO2max test gives them a better chance the power they are seeing is accurate. But they are chasing their tails anyway because there's limited value in a one off test...

[@mrwezbo]

@@nerocoaching Seems strange, couldn't they just go through his strava/intervals/TP to quickly look?

[@nerocoaching]

Yes but there’s no guarantee his power meter is accurate (it is, but they can’t assume that)

[@mrwezbo]

@@nerocoaching What would happen then though? They are impressed with his fake power, he goes overseas to the team and gets absolutely smoked on the first and subsequent rides - seems like he (or anyone that would do this) is only cheating themselves in reality? Is this a common issue team scouts see?

[@zwtvchannel]

While testing has its merits and very good for certain things VO2 really isn’t the b-all end-all for performance. My VO2 is ok but my threshold abilities a helleva lot better.

[@XX-is7ps]

Vo2max acts as a cap for threshold power as a percentage (fractional utilisation) so it does hinder your threshold development to a certain extent

[@levihone3740]

how do you gain interest from teams like jos did?

[@DISCOhooch]

Dear friend. Can you please analize new Zwift Academy 2022 workouts?

[@alexiosfenerlis6233]

dope video! Is the garmin estimate close to accurate? mine currently says 75 so i'd like to believe it is

[@LoranMaes]

I saw a study that says if it estimates between 45-55 it's quite accurate, but above or below that, it's not accurate at all

[@alexiosfenerlis6233]

@@LoranMaes Very interesting! can you tell me the name of the study? ill be doing a vo2 max test soon so Ill be able to verify myself

[@kilianbader9786]

Mine reads about 10 ml/kg lower. Tested 68 Garmin shows 58

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Cross bike! 👌 #crossiscoming breh! I now use the 1 min ramp test to get a decent FTP estimate of MAP. Have gone to a lab before where the ramps were 6 minutes. Can take 45 to 60 minutes to finish that test, you'll be dead for days. Results in racing > test results 👈👍

[@jfreck]

Do they want to see any lactate testing ?

[@chriss6971]

Do the teams ask for ideology of the riders to give an indication of what drives them or is it all physical aspects they are after? Seeing as genes expressed are dependant on how you live what you do it seems changeable imo.

[@nerocoaching]

Yes most teams interview riders (the good teams at least) before making any decisions, they need to fit will with the ethos of the team

[@wheaty8350]

what sunglasses?

[@Richz2]

Having a test done can also find out how your body uses fuel ie fat/carbs which can be useful.

[@nerocoaching]

Interesting to see, I question how useful it is for road cycling though. Fuel utilisation is a firstly a reflection of general aerobic endurance (experienced endurance athletes overall will have higher fat oxidation regardless of diet) and in the short term it can be massively influenced by diet, so it's a tough one to make use of. Having lactate tested in the sub-maximal steps would be useful if we planned on repeating the test down the track

[@chrisvanbuggenum871]

Welcome to the hood Jesse.

[@marcus_velo_9970]

hope he goes well. what role will epo have in increasing v02 as that's the real potential they're looking for. (euro teams). I hope you prepare him for that reality.

[@LoranMaes]

Dumb comment dude.

[@jono1457-qd9ft]

Wouldn't it be better if Exercise Physiologists explained to young athletes that EPO doping won't make them faster?

[@marcus_velo_9970]

@@jono1457-qd9ft except it will make them faster as we all know.

[@kors3y]

What are Dr Phils’ numbers ;)

[@nerocoaching]

He's racing Masters Nationals in a few weeks, we will see!

[@einarhays]

🙌🙌

[@deadly0078]

im 74v02 max and a 315ftp and 22 years old.

[@nerocoaching]

Thats strong, you could be getting more out of your FTP with that VO2max value though

[@deadly0078]

@@nerocoaching True I'm gaining strength. Hoping to win some races and be pick up by a team hopefully.

[@deadly0078]

Its the legs the burn out quicker than the heart rate.

[@TheMASDrummer]

i think youtube shadowbanned you

[@nerocoaching]

nah just average quality videos recently 😩

[@Bangbangpolas]

You seem angry in this video again