Fitting 35 Inch Tires With NO LIFT on a Mojave

[@wusaint]

Just bought my 2023 Mojave about 2 months ago and love every minute I'm in it. That suspension really makes a massive difference in how it feels compared to other models.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Oh for sure!

[@WildCampingAlberta]

You can build any jeep to feel that way lol

[@wusaint]

@marcbeauchamp1479 I know this and if you plan on upgrading your Jeep you'd be better off buying a Sport trim. But I don't want to. I've wrenched all my life. I'm old and don't want to anymore. I wanted something that was what I wanted out of the box. I'll probably never even do an oil change on this thing. My body is broken and beat up.

[@pjfan173]

Just bought a 2023 Rubicon with only 3K miles on it and saved a ton from buying new. Couldn’t be happier.

[@forcemotoring1551]

That’s awesome! Someone else mistake is you gain! Congrats

[@mikekosar6135]

Nice Mohave..!! 35’s look great

[@forcemotoring1551]

Thanks

[@tjshine7444]

That looks awesome. I just got a 21' Mojo same Stingrey color, and am anxious to get started building it up.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Hey thanks! You’re gonna love it

[@thomaskrutulis2289]

Beautiful spec!! You won’t miss the fenders especially on the gray. Plus they take all the beating from brush. I did see a guy color match coat them with line x. That’s pretty badass! Good luck

[@juststeve1539]

Man, I just picked up a '22 Gladiator Mojave. It only had 12,000 miles and was $1,000 below Blue Book, which was about $15,000 less than original sticker price! I absolutely agree that their loss is my gain. This thing is friggin SWEET! I think i'm gonna go with 35s on mine as well.

[@forcemotoring1551]

That’s awesome! You’re gonna love it! Definitely do the 35s make sure you go with a 4.5 backspacing on the wheels. Gives it the perfect stance

[@thegentlemansarmory8881]

Love the videos. Very entertaining and some of the best how-to videos I've seen on the tube, and trust me, I've seen a LOT. Keep it up.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Wow thank you

[@jamesdumas6602]

I test drove a new 24 Mojave off road over in the Oscella National forest, tire pressures was 37 psi, I thought it rode real harsh, causing the brand new Mojave to rattle. I ended up buy a new Willys, that also comes with a Rear Locker and with 32 inch Firestone Mud Terrain tires for about $16K less than the Mojave. Just yesterday the wife anf I took our brand new Willys on the same trails. The Willys rides a lot smoother over the pot holes and the rough areas than the Mojava did. Also, the Willys comes with the same higher front fenders like the Rubicon and Mojava.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Nice congrats on the new jeep! 37 psi seems really high we run 35 on the street and between 15-10 on the trails I would say for a back road at a higher speed 20 psi would be best. But yea not sure why you had such a bad experience my Mojave is the smoothest factory jeep I’ve ever been in.

[@FunHax-cu8lh]

Thanks for this, im about to buy 2024 model now 🔥🤝🏽💯 good pick Gladiator W Mojave

[@forcemotoring1551]

Hey thank you

[@tjshine7444]

I hope you waited until Dec, b/c they are $15k discounted right now!

[@chuyvargas1016]

Nice Mojave but at 4:52 was interesting unsure what the background noise maybe the tires slipped 😂

[@forcemotoring1551]

Lol had to re watch it hahaha I think it’s the whippers but damn that got me loling

[@BetaBuxDelux]

Dang! Mine has cloth seats, but I’m liking the leather you’ve got.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Hey thanks. PRP makes a nice seat cover you can customize if you ever wanna change. Plus we are a PRP dealer and get great pricing 🤘🏻

[@travelingsulls]

The wheels look great. I have a 21 the safe color. Did you ever get the name of the powder used?

[@forcemotoring1551]

Moody grey by prismatic

[@jayharman9322]

Can you send a link for this tire? I looked on Nitto site trying to figure out the same tire. Ty great video

[@forcemotoring1551]

They are called the Nitto trail grapplers. Very common tire

[@fchrisb804]

Solid Cinematics. 😁

[@forcemotoring1551]

Thanks

[@marcusbeau]

love it, a friend has same 35 no lift, but not the sweet mojave

[@forcemotoring1551]

Nice

[@andresgarciaespinosa7697]

y que bien asi con sus refuerzos De! Azero! lo mejor;! de la máquina total excelente bella:! saludos!

[@forcemotoring1551]

Absolutely

[@allthecommonsense]

Solid video ✅

[@forcemotoring1551]

Hey thanks

[@shedever_designs]

Gray looks nice with gray. Sick.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Thanks!

[@tburrows357]

Any update on the Mojave? There’s a 2023 on the lot local and I test drove it yesterday. I’m really considering it if the dealership gives me a good deal.

[@forcemotoring1551]

We’ve done a couple update videos one is on the channel now another drops on Friday. But love it! Rides great and super happy with it

[@Grant-m4z]

Maybe I missed it, what is your new rim size, width, offset, backs pacing?

[@forcemotoring1551]

17 inch wheel 4.5 backspacing

[@Grant-m4z]

@@forcemotoring1551 Thanks, do you know how wide they are? I really like the stance they have!

[@forcemotoring1551]

9”

[@Grant-m4z]

@@forcemotoring1551 Thank!

[@joellyons890]

Big thing is Mojave you can engage rear locker in 4hi

[@forcemotoring1551]

Good point forgot to mention that!

[@steadysunGRT]

perfect setup!

[@forcemotoring1551]

Thank you

[@vertstang123]

I was torn between that and the Rubicon, I went with the Rubi for two reasons, 1) exactly what you mentioned, the resale, and 2) the front and rear lockers. In some ways the Mojave would be a better choice for me as I don't do any heavy rock crawling, but those two things tipped the scale.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Either way you can go wrong. Congrats on the new Jeep brother

[@LongRangeDesertGroupX]

I ran into the same issue, was on the fence between the Mojave and the Rubicon, I really wanted the Gobi tan and happened to find a 6 speed manual Rubicon with the Saddle brown Leather that looked good in Gobi and the Front and Rear locking diffs and sway bar disconnect slightly edged out the Mojave. Plus I dont know why I like the vented Rubicon hood vs the hood scoped Mojave hood.

[@tonymmalone]

Looks awesome!! Just working a deal on a 23 Mojave today

[@forcemotoring1551]

That’s great you will love it

[@Roc900]

Do you have to recalibrate to compensate for the 35’s?? And I hope you go with the AEV Full Bumper or Rugged Ridge Venator Front Bumper would really complete the build.. My2Cents

[@forcemotoring1551]

Technically you would to have to for the Speedo. It’s not real noticeable tho. Probably got with a Genright aluminum. Stuby tho, we don’t like full length ones

[@WAVE_ZERO]

I ended up getting a Rubicon because of the bullet proof 4:1 transfer case, the Mojave automatic transfer case has had some issues so far.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Congrats on the new rig. No issues so far with the Mojave transfer case 30,000 miles in.

[@jeffstone7912]

I’m planning on buying a Mojave. My plans are to give it mild lift and some taller pizza cutter tires. A couple of LED lights facing forward, one facing backwards. Possibly a wench.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Nice man I think with just a spacer lift you could fit up to a 37 without any issues

[@wtpence4731]

Looks great ! Think I'm going to stick w/stock wheels and go w/11.50's/35 so to Not keep mud down the sides.

[@forcemotoring1551]

I hear ya. For us it’s important to have a bit of tire poke so that what hits the trees or rocks first and not the body or fender

[@forcemotoring1551]

I hear ya. For us it’s important to have a bit of tire poke so that what hits the trees or rocks first and not the body or fender

[@michaeljordan6090]

I have a 22 slate gray Mohave and just put 35 inch Toyo open country AT3 on the stock rims, trying to decide if I should add a stabilizer bar.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Like a new sway bar? Or a steering stabilizer?

[@michaeljordan6090]

@@forcemotoring1551 sorry steering stabilizer

[@brisketbaron]

You going to lift the Mojave? I have this same setup pretty much. I’m thinking the Evo 2.5 enforcer stage 2 w/ the 2-3” extensions and Teraflex quick disconnect kit with the Apex disconnects.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Probably not cuz I don’t wanna go any bigger with the tires. I haven’t really wheeled it much and probably won’t. Just hit more backroad camping type stuff. Maybe in a couple years when I decide to really go bigger with it and wheel more I would do the 74 weld portals and 40s on the stock suspension and axles and see how that goes

[@morningdrums]

I was thinking of getting the majave over the rubicon. I would this do all off road, over rocks including? Is their a rack to put over the bed to put the spare tire? I'd like to have that.

[@forcemotoring1551]

They do fine on the rocks, again it come one inch higher then the rubicon so better clearance. Unless you are really doing some challenging trails you rarely need both a front and rear locker. And let’s be honest if you are doing technical rock crawling in a gladiator you are gonna want at least 40s and that would require new axles anyway

[@Dirtroadoverlanding]

Love this package! I have the high altitude on order right now. Should be here in a couple of months. Sting Grey and same color seats.

[@forcemotoring1551]

That’s sick I’m sure you will love it

[@robertschmitz6805]

I have a '20 sport s, no lift, on 35's. 86'd the fenders. No problems at all

[@forcemotoring1551]

Nice

[@updowning4590]

I have a 22 Mojave. Manual, cloth povery model, lol. I have been eyeing an 11.5 width 35 on stock rim. Lots of success online with that pizza cutter look/clearance on stock Mojave rims/suspension. It has occured to me though that i have a set of nice 20inch American Racing truck rims lying around, with correct lug fit, but 45mm backspacing as for another project initially. Sounds like if i put about a 30mm wheel spacer in it, i'd be same fitment as you on the 35x12s with 15mm backspace. I did not catch your rim diameter. Not doing any serious trails with it, but no mall crawler either so sensitive to 20s not offering up same offroad capability/protection, bit similar sidwall height as stock. What was your rim diameter on new wheels? Am i on the right track?

[@forcemotoring1551]

I’m not a big 20 guy for a couple reasons, tires are usually weigh more money, and like you said you have a lot left side wall so off road can be tough. I think the fitment would work to clear them but I bet you could get hood money for those wheels if you wanted to go to a 17. The wheels on the Mojave and most of my vehicles are 17 because you have a lot of tire options and it gives you the most and on the sidewalk while still being able to fit over modern brakes.

[@dannysavagedraftguru]

What brand tires and wheels ? Price ? Think I read you sell them

[@forcemotoring1551]

Yes we are a dealer for both nitto tire and dirty life wheels. Send me a email and I can give you a quote for price including shipping.

[@michschi]

WHAT IS THE OFFSET ON THESE WHEELS?

[@forcemotoring1551]

4.5

[@berndog509]

I own the same Mojave!!! Got fuel rims though. 35s r nice.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Awesome Jeep isn’t it

[@mtbtrailhunter9311]

what are the specs on the wheels? backspace, offset, (17", 18")?

[@forcemotoring1551]

17x9 4.5 backspacing

[@mtbtrailhunter9311]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@ipstacks11]

Is that a 75 Series Land Cruiser in the shop? Your excited about a Jeep and you have a 75 series Land Cruiser? I'm confused. Maybe that's a Prado or something? Lockers and winches before power coating wheels, in my book.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Hahaha yea that’s a 75 series land cruiser from Japan. It used to be a fire truck over there is you can believe it. It’s a customers getting a bunch of work done including a custom rear 4 link. I guess you haven’t seen my other Jeeps haha the Mojave is really just a daily driver slash camping rig. It comes with a factory rear locker and if I get it into a spot where I need a front locker I’m on the wrong trail in the wrong Jeep. We do have some videos coming out on it tho with new bumpers and yes the front will have a winch haha

[@rafa_v1.0]

Nice! I ran across this looking for the biggest tires on a Mojave without a lift. Great job thank you! Late last year I got a black 2022 with a manual transmission, which I love. I didn't go out thinking I'd be getting the manual, but it's so easy to drive. It sat on the lot for a couple of months and they dropped the price, I imagine no one wanted a manual so I decided to grab it. It had 8 miles on it and got it several $K under sticker. Tough to pass up under $50k. It's a pretty basic package but it comes with a lot as is. The only thing I've done to it is spray a Line-X liner on for $700. Now I'm looking at the larger tires, a wench and that's going to be all I do with it aside for some minor add-ons. It's an awesome Jeep to own.

[@forcemotoring1551]

That’s great! I highly recommend a nice 35 inch tire

[@JesusCruz-qe3kw]

I realy like your new set of wheels and tires, aren't this set of wheeles and tires too heavy for the 3.6 engine? Your Mojave looks awsome, Thank you for sharing,

[@forcemotoring1551]

You barley even notice them. The transmissions in the JL and JT are so much better then the old jk ones that you can barley even tell. Keep in mind it’s not a big jump cuz the Mojave comes stock with 33”s

[@dannysavagedraftguru]

Can you fit 35 on Willy’s with no lift ?

[@forcemotoring1551]

Not without a lot of rubbing. I would recommend a spacer lift for it

[@statenmorgan962]

I think a Mojave with the Aux switches would be better than a Rubicon. Then just add a front locker. Best of both worlds if you don’t rock crawl.

[@forcemotoring1551]

100 precent

[@JasonParham83]

Yup. That's what I did. The Rubicon has aluminum knuck s to the Mojave steel, the frame is reinforced more, the control arms are beefier, and of course the hood. I knew I was found to regear anyway so when I regeared I just added a front locker, front RCV's, and Chromoly shafts in the rear.

[@CaptVII]

@@JasonParham83 The Mojave has cast iron knuckles, not steel. Definitely more heavy duty than the standard aluminums.

[@choicemojave6655]

As someone said, you can make a Mojave like a Rubicon, but not vice versa. Love mine but accessory fitment seems to be a recurring theme.

[@Record-Speeds]

Thats funny, I got my 2023 Gladiator with 10k on it as well. I'm still wondering why someone would put 10k on something and then get rid of it

[@forcemotoring1551]

That’s awesome. Always good to get a deal

[@jamesdonelljunio5550]

Love your build! What headlight did you put and how are they at night?

[@forcemotoring1551]

Not sure, they were on it when I bought it. They are nice and bright but I don’t like the halo ring so I will change them out for something more oem

[@samson7x]

I dig it. That made a huge difference. What size are on it from factory?

[@forcemotoring1551]

33s come in the Mojave from the factory

[@Matthew5457]

What are the rim specs? Backspacing has such. Thanks!

[@forcemotoring1551]

17x9 with a 4.5 backspacing

[@ashleehs]

Any thoughts on swapping out the stabilizer bar? Curious as to if you have any steering drift with the 35s?

[@forcemotoring1551]

Yes I think one of the pass through ones like the falcon would make any Jeep handle better. Also a steering box reinforcement bracket would probably be a good idea as well.

[@bobbyg7552]

Would that same tire go on the stock wheel and not rub?

[@forcemotoring1551]

It would fit height wise but when turning at full lock would rub. You could use spacers but I would recommend a aftermarket wheel with the right backspacing

[@bobbyg7552]

@@forcemotoring1551 Thank you, what backspacing do you think I should use?

[@OldManButtercup]

Well now I know what to put on my 23 mojave. My plan is line-x over stock fender flares, with a diamondback bed cover, and now this tire/wheel setup. Nothing extreme. Great video. 👍

[@MrJAV1987]

What is the offset on the wheels? And any rubbing at all?

[@forcemotoring1551]

They are -12 and no running what so ever even when hitting bumps at full turn

[@JoseROyola-dn4zw]

Brother...I really appreciate this video. I just bought a 2024 Mojave and was wondering on lifting it or not. You just saved me some money on a lift. That size of tire/wheel is more than what I need and it looks just perfect. Is there anything I need to add to it or would it be fine just the way you presented on the video? Thank You.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Hey man glad to hear. We’ve been driving the Mojave for over a year now on that setup and it’s just perfect. Rips around town and down the highway like stock and on rougher stuff and off road no bumping or rubbing. I can’t think of anything to add as far as suspension

[@22jeepmojave75]

Do I need to calibrate my transmission by changing to 35”?

[@forcemotoring1551]

Nope no need

[@jacksonhallett9358]

🔥🔥🔥

[@kentac1911]

0 or -12 offset?

[@forcemotoring1551]

It’s a 4.5 backspacing

[@Guitarsdetectors]

Sting Gray is this best! That’s the color of my Rubicon. .you need to be taking that Mojave to the desert to really let her stretch. You can only bomb so much in Rubicon county. 😂.

[@work3229]

Anybody has the link to buy this rims? I have a 22 Mojave planning in swapping for this and sell the stock wheels and tires once swapped

[@forcemotoring1551]

Hey, what state do you live in? We are actually a off road shop and can drop ship to any state in the US

[@wilheimreis8272]

i was happy with mine,til I eventually found out I cant supercharge it..Still debating to put 35s on it as well.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Yea the Jeep motors don’t like boost at all. You won’t even notice the 35s

[@joewolfe642]

The frame is not thicker, the brackets from the B pillar rearward are. Also the knuckles are cast iron if i recall correctly. All the suspension stuff you can do far better in the aftermarket - I wouldn't give up a front locker for that imo - but to each their own.

[@johnrenehan7406]

You can do "much better with aftermarket" suspension - at what cost approx $$??

[@joewolfe642]

@@johnrenehan7406 Depends - do yo want added lift ? Do you want cast iron knuckles - RCV's ? You can almost build one from scratch with aftermarket stuff.

[@mikebromelow8514]

The whole POINT of the Mojave build is that it soaks up all the chatter bumps AND can take big hits. Trust me, you aren’t going to find anything in the aftermarket that will rival the Fox internal bypass shocks on this. All you’ll do is loose the plushness as a trade off for taking big hits which this can already do well.

[@croneous]

The Mohave also has a differently geared transfer case for higher speeds

[@JohnBrowningsGhost]

Yes it does, you can clearly see the extra plates welded on aft of the B pillar to the spring mounts in the media releases on the mojave

[@mgmaier75]

What was your reasoning to go 35 instead of 37? Mojave Looks great!!

[@forcemotoring1551]

Without lifting it or changing the fenders 37s would rub for sure. I bought this as a “daily driver” type build and for auto Mets to borrow or rent out while their rigs were being worked on. I have a Jeep on 40s a truck on 37s and my wife’s Jeep on 37s just wanted to try something more “ practical” that being said if you were thinking of going 37s I would skip them left it 3 inches and go to a 38.

[@mgmaier75]

I’m toying with the idea, don’t want to change suspension but raise it enough to keep stock. I was thinking 1.5 spacer lift with 37 not sure if that will be enough or shock extenders

[@claychitwood]

I run 37’s before I put my 3.5 lift on my Mojave no rub….

[@stephencarbajal5657]

​@@forcemotoring1551the mojave has the same high line fenders as the rubicon therefore 37's don't rub on the fenders one bit. I have a 23 Mojave rolling on 37's, my theory is buy twice cry twice buy once cry once😂 tires and wheels aren't cheap

[@stephencarbajal5657]

​@@mgmaier75buy the 2" AEV spacer lift with the shock extensions and you can rock 37's with zero rub, I've been rocking that lift for 10,000 miles I didn't want to waste the suspension (shocks) but once they get some miles on them I'm going to purchase a different lift kit.

[@Texasfinalboss831]

If you don’t rock crawl, yeah, it’s good, but if I could have a Jeep gladiator I’d personally say nah! I want a rubi cause I wanna rock crawl one day!!

[@forcemotoring1551]

I hear ya but if you are gonna rock crawl a gladiator your gonna need Dana 60s and 42s anyway so maybe go with a sport. They are just so big they don’t work well on the rock crawl trails

[@mikerudnick1562]

I just bought a Rubicon 2024 for 10000 under list

[@forcemotoring1551]

That’s awesome! The deals right now are insane!! Back when I got mine it was peak shortage time

[@romeropostali520]

4:53 bud just lets one rip. Wow. That musta required a wipe. Then just keeps sneaking them out every couple minutes 🤷‍♂️

[@forcemotoring1551]

lol dude it’s the wipers

[@allthecommonsense]

Omg I haven’t laughed this hard in weeks.

[@tonysilva5558]

You can put 35's on a Rubi with no lift.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Yup yea can do it on a lot of jeeps. Doesn’t mean it won’t rub. Also the Mojave is 1 inch higher than the rubicon.

[@tonysilva5558]

@@forcemotoring1551 Not sure what either one of your pointless points have to do with my statement that you can put 35's on a Rubi and no it wont rub. I didn't say a thing about other jeeps. Try to focus...

[@reyaleman]

Ok I think I’m buying a Mohave 😅

[@forcemotoring1551]

Sick

[@sprocket374]

I dig the Mojave but some day youll have to replace the shocks. I hear that could be thousands of dolloars. That in itself scares me away from it.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Totally agree but if you’ve taken a ride in a stock jeep and a jeep that has nice shocks, you would upgrade your shocks on a Rubicon after they wear out as well. Nothing stays stock forever right haha

[@mkbmj]

I had a Mojave, the shocks were way too soft for me. Dumped it, now have a Rubicon - the only part I miss is the hood. But I’ll get one soon enough.

[@forcemotoring1551]

Maybe we could swap I like the rubi hood better

[@mkbmj]

@@forcemotoring1551 absolutely!

[@ryweebs4395]

The shocks on the rubi are extremely soft, makes hwy driving borderline dangerous. Mojaves are 2xs as firm and feel great.

[@Mike___Kilo]

My people pronounce "Mohave" as "Moh Jave".

[@forcemotoring1551]

Love that

[@janlestersanjuan]

37 in tires much better

[@forcemotoring1551]

For sure it’s a bigger tire but when you have two Jeeps on 40s and a tundra 37s a 35 is a much better choice for a daily driver

[@janlestersanjuan]

@@forcemotoring1551 okay thanks for the info 💯

[@CRFfred]

I guess if you want to race down the backroads but not my thing. Would rather have a diesel rubi. Same frame reinforcements, steel knuckles and low gearing. The orange and grey = barf

[@forcemotoring1551]

👍🏻

[@ssaepa1]

Buy a cheap car port

[@forcemotoring1551]

Yea for sure, I was making a joke foreshadowing the fact that I bought a new shop. Check out the video about it. Also have a whole series of building out the new shop, I think you’ll like jt

[@ssaepa1]

@@forcemotoring1551 new to the channel, congrats on all the above

[@itsme-un6bs]

kek...

[@forcemotoring1551]

Total kek…..

[@davidwebster3510]

Horrible video lots of wrong information

[@forcemotoring1551]

Thanks so much man appreciate you taking the time to have a positive comment on someone’s trying to do something with their life. What color is your rubicon?

[@allthecommonsense]

Uhhh like what? You can’t leave a comment like this without at least 1 or 2 examples.

[@Silentt141]

Came here to see about 35s with no lift on my rubicon, left with good info and my rubicon fanboy feelings a little hurt 🥲

[@forcemotoring1551]

Hahaha rubicon is great the Mojave is just different. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻