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Fitting a Split Charge Relay - Self built DIY VW T5 camper conversion

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I bought a split charge relay kit from a company called Simply Split Charge in the UK. You can buy the entire kit via eBay: ebay.eu/2xWlec3
Here is my (slightly unconventional) installation video.
Any questions or comments please post up and I'll aim to respond to everyone. Also feel free to share wherever appropriate.
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Do not try this at home - All electrical work should be undertaken by a trained professional, not a monkey with a wrench!
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@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had any accidents when working on the electrics on your van? What important tips can you share with others?
@longhairmullet
@longhairmullet 6 жыл бұрын
Yep THIS IS the detailed installation that none of the other vids show, how to wire things up through the automobile. Drill holes through dash, pull in through glove box, pull cables around, up and under to final destination. Wheew, I needed this missing link! There are as many different set ups as there are vans know, but this shows more detail of how it will all need to be routed throughout the van. Great to ‘’SEE’’ the work that goes in!
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad it helped! :)
@CampervanAdventures
@CampervanAdventures 7 жыл бұрын
Lolol I've watched most of your videos,my vans finished now but little jobs your doing or are planning on doing take me back.....I keep meaning to do a video on my van plus putting up my vango kela 3 awning(once it stops all this rain)lol,I've had my van since last august so on a time scale not to bad......I love all the good feedback when people see it and know I've done the whole thing myself,puts a really big smile on my face......just need the nice weather now to 😊 enjoy.All the best,Paul
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 7 жыл бұрын
+Wolfburg T5 Sure is fun!
@paulatherton4670
@paulatherton4670 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. I fitted mine yesterday. Installed it within an hour. 👍
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 3 жыл бұрын
Great!
@Sunkennn
@Sunkennn 5 жыл бұрын
Just a little comment on the routing of the cable. It is not a good idea to have a cable with high current running next to sensitive electronics such as the stereo, it is very likely that it could cause interference and noise coming from the speakers. Maybe not an issue in this case but a heads up for anyone doing something similar. You would be better of routing the cable straight down from the grommet and under the floor mat as far away from speaker wires as possible. Other than that, nice and helpful video.
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks pal, no issues with mine, but yes, try to avoid that folks!!
@ZetecinsideMotorsport
@ZetecinsideMotorsport 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your excellent video. I was struggling to find the place where the cable passes through the bulkhead and your excellent video pointed me in the right direction. Thanks again.
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you've found it helpful 👊🏼😎
@russwalker675
@russwalker675 7 жыл бұрын
Top vid, keep em coming! A tip for the connection of the terminals.. i would solder the terminal to the cable. The technique would be to flux the cable, put on the terminal and heat it up so the flux dissolves and cleans, you can then feed the solder cable in to the terminal through the small hole while its hot to seal the connection
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 7 жыл бұрын
+Russ Walker Thanks :)
@russwalker675
@russwalker675 7 жыл бұрын
I see your son soldered the lights for the units so principle is the same.. top work on the van! Looks a peach!
@MrPaddy1000111
@MrPaddy1000111 6 жыл бұрын
Not a bad install, whip to halfords and get a proper grommet for where that cable passes through the metal panel though. Ive seen them arc weld themselves if they rub through and cut through things like a plasma torch!
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, its on the to-do list, got a box full of grommets now!!
@dannyire1
@dannyire1 7 жыл бұрын
great video man, i was dreading this as i know eff all about electrics but having watched this it seems a lot simpler and straight forward. cheers man happy camping
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@stripfix1979
@stripfix1979 7 жыл бұрын
Great work mate.. Just watched all your vids straight through.. I'm just getting ready to start my t5 conversion and your vids have made me a lot more confident so many thanks.. Also I live in sussex so not too far.. Will give ya a shout if I get stuck lol
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 7 жыл бұрын
Once you get going it all falls into place. Good luck with your conversion!
@elizabethestevez6184
@elizabethestevez6184 2 жыл бұрын
If I want to run solar at a later date I am thinking I miggt be better going for a CTEK split charger but am assuming wiring will be the same principal.
@Kiestaff85
@Kiestaff85 7 жыл бұрын
nice one mate great help! seemed daunting at first but now seeing this vid on how to feed it all through is great. cheers and keep up the good work
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback!
@2wheelsrbest327
@2wheelsrbest327 5 жыл бұрын
Wow ! what a find !. When the better weather arrives I intend to do this and was actually living in fear of doing it. But now with such clear and precise instructions particularly as I didnt know about that hole behind the battery it doesn't look a too difficult job. Hope your going to do another one fitting the cupboards ha ha. So great to finally find a video that gives clear instructions without some fancy music booming in the back ground ( probably an age thing on my part ). Thanks a lot and you've definitely got another subscriber.
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great feedback! One thing to note is to fit a rubber grommet in the metal plate behind the battery. It's the one I drilled through. Also there are a couple of videos on the units! Thanks for subscribing 👌🏼
@jakemuk
@jakemuk 7 жыл бұрын
hi mate, nice vids, you should ideally use a hydraulic crimper for those size crimps, as it forms the perfect bond inside,
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 7 жыл бұрын
+FishingAdventure Thanks, i just bought a ratchet one, didn't realise you could get hydraulic ones! #doh
@brokenrat2176
@brokenrat2176 4 жыл бұрын
As a matter of interest. Did that van have a smart charge alternator? I believed a split charge didn't work with smart charge. My T5 is 2004, but not sure if it has smart charge. Alternator has free run pully on it though.
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 4 жыл бұрын
Mine was fine on a 2005 T5, but I believe later ones (fitted with smart alternators) need a different split charger
@IgotQuestions.
@IgotQuestions. 7 жыл бұрын
How powerful can be the leisure battery ? Is there any danger for the alternator of is to powerful ?
@Trentmatthews
@Trentmatthews 3 жыл бұрын
I am building a leisure battery/ secondary battery system for my Volkswagen van. I’m wondering if I can use a lithium battery, for my secondary battery, even though the battery for my vehicle is not.
@paulloom9876
@paulloom9876 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful as I need just this information.
@marknewton2240
@marknewton2240 5 жыл бұрын
Do you need the positive and the negative to be fed from the car battery to the leisure battery? Or just a positive?
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Basically the positive from the vehicle battery and leisure battery both go into either side of the split charge relay. The relay is grounded to the chassis via a grounding block, the leisure battery is earthed to that block. The vehicle battery is obviously already earthed in the engine bay. Hope that helps mate.
@the1truegooner519
@the1truegooner519 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously this vid is a few years old but hey worth an ask! I have done the same setup but I'm at connecting the batteries up which one do I connect up first and which terminal first? Thanks
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 4 жыл бұрын
I connected up the leisure battery first and always connect the earth/negative (usually black) AFTER the live/positive (usually red)
@the1truegooner519
@the1truegooner519 4 жыл бұрын
@@GDUBTV great thank you
@112bergo
@112bergo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you great video, looking for a video like this for ages. keep it up pal
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙌🏼
@airborneoptics3176
@airborneoptics3176 7 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, love the videos always help me gets idea of the task at hand before jumping straight in! Hope to see a video soon of you doing the electrics from the battery for lights and 240 sockets as that's where I'm stuck at with my conversion Any suggestions in the mean time? Cheers again
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 7 жыл бұрын
+Airborne optics Ive fallen behind a bit. Hope to have a video of the electrics done soon!
@Lwhite1989
@Lwhite1989 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, was really dreading this job but this has put my mind at ease. One question, how difficult is it to remove the trim around the gearstick? Cheers
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback, really appreciate it! From memory (I can't quite remember 100%) it wasn't that hard. I think I touch on removing gear knob trim in this video, from approx 1min 30secs, check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX-5gntupqeUkKs
@jameshockley7547
@jameshockley7547 7 жыл бұрын
Love the vids! Very helpful as I'm just behind you in terms of mods so following closely. Top job and Thank you! Keep em comin....
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh thanks for the encouragement dude, hope your conversion is going well :)
@collie9874
@collie9874 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video pal..love it...you explain very well which is what I need.. thanks
@ryanllewellyn2071
@ryanllewellyn2071 5 жыл бұрын
Was the 12v/100ah leisure battery sufficient enough to run multiple devices, lights and a fridge? I’m looking into buying one now so any help is appreciated. Thanks
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
It was ok for about 2/3 days on a full charge without using electric hook up. Depends on how cold you have the fridge and how long lights are used for. Lots of variables. Get 2x 100Ah batteries if you can!
@elizabethestevez6184
@elizabethestevez6184 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Sprinter and ran x2 130 AH and never ran out of piwer, had 260 watt solar too.
@puppapump
@puppapump 6 жыл бұрын
What split charge kit did you buy? There are a few versions (Medium, Heavy and Pro)
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
Mine is what they are now calling the pro, think I went for the 7 metre kit as mine is a LWB
@PJ-vs8dy
@PJ-vs8dy 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always, they're really helping me do my first conversion. Just starting to do this split relay job and I cannot find how to get the centre cover off under the gear stick. I don't want to just pull as I have a tendency to break stuff like that. Any tips ?
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 7 жыл бұрын
+PJ FPV There is a small notch un the underside where you put a flat head screwdriver to push in a retaining clip and it slides off
@16vastraturbo
@16vastraturbo 4 жыл бұрын
Is that not good for the van battery tho when the vsr stays on when you turn the engine off??
@percy3815
@percy3815 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Any reason you didn't route the cable up the near side A pillar??
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 3 жыл бұрын
None at all, basically didn’t know what I was doing! On my T6 I routed it up the A-pillar 👍🏼
@Crutchley-Mack
@Crutchley-Mack 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man, nice job! Did you check to see if you have a smart alternator? Some modern vans have them and require a different split relay system to avoid damaging the leisure battery.
@16vastraturbo
@16vastraturbo 6 жыл бұрын
How many amps are you getting at the leisure battery as it said on the battery max charge 20 continuous amps
@gman1087
@gman1087 6 жыл бұрын
Wheres the best place to locate the relay...near the battery up front? Or the leisure battery in the back?
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
You want to fuse within a couple of inches of the main wiring that connects to the car and lesiure batteries. The relay it doesnt really matter where its located (as far as I'm aware!)
@juliewah3236
@juliewah3236 6 жыл бұрын
Great videos my T5 brother from an other mother, just a couple of Questions; the step, does it just prize off ( any tips) and in your video of the Sargent EC160 you said you where going to see if you could still run the built in charger along side this VSR..... any update on that ? The reason for asking is I would like to use the EC160 to charge my leisure/VW battery while on hook up.
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
+julie wah hi, step has several push clips, just prises off. The EC160 is able to charge your leisure battery still whilst on hookup
@elizabethestevez6184
@elizabethestevez6184 2 жыл бұрын
So GDUB TV, nothing from this split charger has to be wired into backnof the existing EC160 unit, it is just literally wired from main battery to leisure battery. I also want to use the EC160 if on hook up, which will becrare once I have solar, second aux battery and power inverter set up.
@distortedvision5000
@distortedvision5000 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just a quick one, does the - pole run straight through from car battery to leisure battery?
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 4 жыл бұрын
The positive from the VB goes to the split charger, the positive from the LB goes to the other end of the split charger. Both the VB & LB are earthed to vehicle. Hope that help 👊🏼😎
@stephdenis9744
@stephdenis9744 5 жыл бұрын
What fuse rating did you put in between the starter and leisure battery? I have a 12V 75AH Starter battery and 110Ah leisure battery. Cable size 16mm or 8mm. I am trying to figure what fuse rating to put... xD
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Usually a 25amp fuse, within a couple of inches of the battery
@alexanderchafer4462
@alexanderchafer4462 5 жыл бұрын
Have same van as you but black how long was the cable so I can put it in the same place as you
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a 6 metre wiring kit from Simply Split Chargers. Had less than a metre left after doing other bits. Hope that helps 😎👊🏻
@johnbanham1722
@johnbanham1722 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid but its redundant technology with a smart alternator, be interested to know how your leisure battery stood up?
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Still going strong!
@antandbecksc
@antandbecksc 4 жыл бұрын
@@GDUBTV Hi, I believe I have a smart alternator in my van 2015 Transit, I bought same relay kit as you, some say I can't use this relay because of smart alternator, I'm not sure what to do, any advice would be great, thanks Paul .
@raglanrodeo
@raglanrodeo 5 жыл бұрын
Top job. every detail covered.
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's usually the aim, glad I managed it on this one!
@martinb1363
@martinb1363 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have any problems with this kit??
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 2 жыл бұрын
None at all mate
@toppertruthio
@toppertruthio 5 жыл бұрын
so in my renault trafic this should be dead easy cos the battery is under the passenger seat
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds much simpler!
@elizabethestevez6184
@elizabethestevez6184 2 жыл бұрын
Same in my Crafter.
@dataglasses
@dataglasses 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know if there is a minimum size battery to run such a setup? Thanks!
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm not that clear on the smallest size battery. Ideally you want as big as possible so it lasts as long as possible off-grid contact Simply Split Chargers, there great for technical info 👊🏼😎
@dataglasses
@dataglasses 5 жыл бұрын
@@GDUBTV Someone suggested 33hrs would be minimum so i ended up just grabbing a 30 watt solar panel for my two 7amp hour deep cycle batteries, cheers1
@Wheelsinthesky80
@Wheelsinthesky80 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, can running reefer with inverter with simply split charger?
@fyounet
@fyounet 3 жыл бұрын
Hi ! Thanks for the video ! It helps a lot. I have just one quick question : did you connect the (-) pole of the auxiliary battery directly to the vehicle's carbody (sorry if it is not clear :) )
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@elizabethestevez6184
@elizabethestevez6184 2 жыл бұрын
Did that negative pole come with the installation kit?
@boznein
@boznein 6 жыл бұрын
what length of cable did you buy(in the kit) from the main battery to the leisure battery? cheers dude
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I bought a 7metre kit from Simply Split Charger in the UK
@collie9874
@collie9874 6 жыл бұрын
How do I get to ask you a question. I am not in the slightest tech savvi
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
+Collie hi, there’s a contact page on my website www.gdub.tv
@markthompson8511
@markthompson8511 7 жыл бұрын
Hi great vids very informative, do you have any ideas on a hot water source ? Mark from tonbridge
@nedyyden
@nedyyden 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the climate(ventilation) buttons for T5?
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/any0npudod6crKc
@Bornmirri
@Bornmirri 6 жыл бұрын
How fast does the alternator charge up the leisure battery?
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry bud, unknown!
@allanb52
@allanb52 6 жыл бұрын
That homemade grommet is dangerous, when the glue on the pad fails you have steel on insulation, when that cuts you have a possible fire. Please get a grommet. Otherwise good job.
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud, its on the todo list later this month, got some proper grommets now, tons of 'em!!
@grego1111
@grego1111 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, Is the split charge relay and leisure battery both earthed at the same point?
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
These are earthed to the metalwork of the van, both at the same point
@billycostello6485
@billycostello6485 5 жыл бұрын
Good man how many amps are the fuses
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
They each have different ratings. Give Simply Split Charge a call with any specifics. They're a great lot and will happily help with technical info..
@branchsnapper2228
@branchsnapper2228 4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson thanks
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@scandivanman
@scandivanman 3 жыл бұрын
What battery is that ?
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 3 жыл бұрын
It’s this one mate... 100Ah 12V Photonic Universe gel leisure battery www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D8FR3PO
@willywonka4152
@willywonka4152 5 жыл бұрын
Hi just starting to do my t5. Did you use medium or heavy duty cable when installing.
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
I used the SimplySplitCharger heavy duty kit
@mistermister8
@mistermister8 4 жыл бұрын
Did I really see this guy install a crimp with a hammer? Must be a SmartMeter installer...
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 4 жыл бұрын
Guilty as charged!! Have got a tool for it now 👊🏼☺️
@fritzfromswitzerland
@fritzfromswitzerland 5 жыл бұрын
Buy a charge controller... a split relay isn‘t efficient and you could ruin your battery
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will consider it for the next build 👊🏼😎
@corallaroc
@corallaroc 5 жыл бұрын
Hell, I was going to have a go until you said 'if anyone dies'
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
lol, that's not the end goal 🤣
@corallaroc
@corallaroc 5 жыл бұрын
@@GDUBTV Lol. It does look relatively simple but I'm a bit scared of electric. I'm going to order kit and see if I can make sense of it 😏
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 5 жыл бұрын
If you get it all from simply split chargers it comes with some great step by step instructions
@corallaroc
@corallaroc 5 жыл бұрын
@@GDUBTV Yeh, thanks. That's the one I'm looking at on Amazon 👍
@liamdevaney7476
@liamdevaney7476 6 жыл бұрын
Rough work
@GDUBTV
@GDUBTV 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, learning along the way, but it works! ;)
@daxw2460
@daxw2460 5 жыл бұрын
@@GDUBTV need too place rubber grommets around any steel work you drill. Protect the cable in a shroud at floor level. Too easily damaged with vibrations. Foot traffic.
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