Five Survivors That Are Knockoff Versions of Other Players

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...
/ idoled_out
Music: Silent Partner - New Tires

[@mallowout]

i haven't watched the video yet, but i imagine this list as an entire list of 'coach' knockoffs we've seen through the years

[@narayanan3287]

One way to get more likes in a comment is by saying that I haven't watched the video yet and predicted the obvious

[@gerstein03]

Well you're half right lol

[@SchmergDergen]

There were way more Tony and Russell wannabes.

[@jross123]

I was going to say Tony and Russell. I mean Tony is just the Russell that can win.

[@Dark_Aeon]

I can't think of a single Coach knock off... Maybe Philip?

[@kristentheactuallpc5540]

Coach's "bizarre combination of arrogance, insecurity, delusion, and sincerity" is literally Survivor Michael Scott. Tell me I'm right. Ever since I've made this connection I can't see Coach without thinking about Michael bahaha.

[@aaronvargas7617]

This is too accurate omg lol

[@SchmergDergen]

Yeah that’s what I heard in the Evolution of Strategy and I can’t forget it.

[@IdoledOut]

This is way too accurate 😂

[@owens7944]

@@IdoledOut Sooo... new video idea, then? 😁

[@addi543]

Coach just answers the question, “What if a character from The Office was on Survivor?”

[@corksauls9403]

A season of Hantz’s is something we certainly don’t need, but deep down something we all very much want. How messed up does a family have to be when Russell is your most sane member?

[@Gashnaw]

Hanz*

[@SchmergDergen]

Survivor: Hantz Down

[@limerysmouse6005]

I have to imagine they live in a beaver hut like the one in Narnia

[@kellydaunis]

@@Gashnaw It's Hantz, not Hanz. smh

[@Gashnaw]

@@kellydaunis You are correct, I have a friend who's last name is Hanz. I thought that was also how Russell spelled his name.

[@55ehdiwarldl97]

right when Wardog appeared, I knew we'd see his throwing attempt

[@AA-dd3we]

I hope if I get on Survivor, I will never end up in an Idoled Out video with kazoo music cheerfully making fun of my challenge attempts

[@juliejustdance]

Always have to bring it up

[@teresawatson1038]

@@AA-dd3we unless your throwing the challenge

[@SamuelCulper-h6s]

Wardog, ugh. he threw like he was not using his dominant hand!

[@penndawt]

Almost the entire cast of Pirate Master were doppelgangers of former early-to-mid 2000s Survivors.

[@IdoledOut]

True. The other one besides Louie that stands out to me is Jay. He's very Lex-ish

[@penndawt]

​@@IdoledOut Nessa was Parvati. Either Laurel or Kendra were either the Courtney/Flicka type. Joe Don was basically Bobby John. Cheryl would be Debb Eaton. Sean would either be a Burton/Shaun/Alex type. Azmyth would actually be closely related to Ace, though Ace came after him, Christian was Sekou, and Jupiter would be Cecelia. Christa resembles Heidi or that girl next door archetype. The first boot could've been Coach before Coach.

[@SpanishFly120]

@@IdoledOut I sometimes got the idea they wanted Nessa to be some kind of Stephenie clone at times, before just being like "okay, nevermind, that's not happening".

[@lightningmonkey706]

Joe Don looks like Bobby Jon and Jamie had a child.

[@penndawt]

@@lightningmonkey706 Exactly.

[@sw7665]

I always thought the main difference between Russell (who I can't stand) and Tony (who I love) is that Tony is having so much fun without being unnecessarily mean just to be mean. And he didn't have the strong sense of misogyny that Russell had (I can't imagine him talking about Trish or Sarah the way Russell talked about the women in his alliance). Watching Tony run around the island like a kid with too much sugar out past his bedtime was so entertaining. Joe was so bland compared to Ozzy and Malcolm. I remember thinking he seemed nice enough in WA, but that might have just been compared to most of the other guys in the season. Sebastian was just annoying.

[@rokeYouuer]

Tony also has a certain degree of moral consistency that's lacking in Russel. He kept his promises until someone betrayed him, with the only exception I can remember being when he planned on blindsiding Woo, which he seemed genuinely remorseful about. Russel meanwhile burned bridges like there was no tomorrow. Edit: I forgot that Tony also blindsided Trish, his closest ally in the game. But I guess you can consider that a "necessary evil."

[@freddytang2128]

Tony was incredibly charismatic and charming. Joe came off as like the annoying kid at school doing dumb things to get attention. Wardog is like the guy that think he is way smarter than he is, and think every single vote need to be some last minute blindside

[@chiefrief221]

@@rokeYouuer why Tony is a winner and nobody would give Russell one cent let alone a million dollars.

[@Furkward]

Actually Tony was sexist or said sexist in Cagayan calling the women lazy and saying their weren’t do anything but we hadn’t seen any of that footage because Tony won and they can’t have a winner being sexist in modern survive so they cut that out. The person who lost Tasha is the one who said it was Tasha and is the reason why she didn’t vote for him at FTC. I 100% believe this with her lazy Morgan was and I think we saw some of it with him vs the women like Kass, Morgan and I damn see it with Jefra

[@freddytang2128]

@@Furkward calling specific women lazy isn’t sexist though. What if those specific women WERE lazy? It’s like if there’s 3 men on a season and a woman said oh those guys are lazy, would that woman be labelled a man hater?

[@josephmanning3179]

What makes Debbie so great is that she is this natural evolution of Coach knock-offs to the Angelena arch-type.

[@juniper665]

My favourite Ryan moment is when Jeff tries to make an analogy with Ryan about relationships and Ryan just immedidately goes "I've never been in a relationship..." and Jeff reacts like hes a little taken aback but totally understands why and responds "...Ok!"

[@penelopsian]

"If x is The Room, then y is Sharknado" is an eloquently precise comparison and I love it.

[@RandomRex6]

I know it was briefly featured at the start, but given that Terry has gone on record as saying he wanted to go on the show because he was inspired by Tom, I'd think it would be worth a larger shout-out. Hell, he's on the same season as Danielle, who's much a Stephanie knock-off in the same way. Was it really coincidence they were put in charge of dividing the tribes? On RHAP's recent season countdown Rob even referred to Panama as "Bizarro Palau" where the hot mess tribe somehow succeeded instead.

[@lloydm95]

Thats super fair and i agree. Its a shame Deitz never got his real second chance cause my dude is an absolute Treasure. Heres hoping for a third bvw season with terry and his son.

[@abbyrose6660]

I fail to see how Danielle is a Stephenie knock-off. The only thing they have in common is being young, athletic females. It’s like calling every young and attractive woman post HvV ‘Parvati 2.0’

[@lloydm95]

@@abbyrose6660 they both filled the same role and had a similar cocky attitude towards people in the game. The only difference is Stephanie has a commanding presence while danielle is more of a follower. They 100% casted her thinking she was another stephanie.

[@abbyrose6660]

@@lloydm95 i still think its a stretch. a person can be the same archetype as someone else, but that doesnt mean theyre a knock-off. idoled out even says so in the video when he mentions how david and christian fill the nerd/fish out of water archetype but theyre not knock offs. at the bare minimum, danielle mightve been cast to fill stephenies role but that doesnt make her a knock-off.

[@Lsaldana92]

I agree with this about Danielle because people forgot they were both pharmaceutical sales reps and apparently Danielle had a big personality off camera and Jeff would ask her everyday are you going to give us that personality.

[@caleblake4405]

It should be worth noting that Krista, Tarzan, Vince and Debbie, Joe and Wardog actually set out to play like the players they ripped off. Ryan wanted to play like Todd, and Phillip considered himself his own man.

[@SpanishFly120]

As strange as it may sound, I actually don't think I ever thought of Ryan as a Cochran clone until this video. And I remember watching Pirate Master and actually liking it. The sad thing is with just a little bit of tweaking to the Mutiny system (make it so they only need 1 Officer for it to work, and the Officer becomes the new Captain), and a second season, I'm positive the show could have totally been turned around.

[@kellydaunis]

I actually like Pirate Master, too. Also, I agree about Ryan.

[@johannalouw9979]

Okay, but honestly this is my favourite video you’ve ever made. This is so funny. I’ve thought this about players, where they’re just knockoffs of others and labelling them as “wish version” is so fucking funny. Thank you. 🙌🏼

[@lizziefryingpan6187]

There were a bunch of Parvati knock offs too

[@edendorra7231]

sHeS LiTeRaLLy pArVaTi 2.0

[@LeoLeoLeo12P]

At this point, I don't even know how many Parvatis 2.0 we've got...

[@uglyaniimals]

who is a parv knock in your eyes ? i feel like a decent amount of people have been *compared* to parv but that's kinda different

[@IdoledOut]

Shout out to the OG Parvati knock off Misty, who somehow predates Parvati

[@zeaferjones1404]

The problem with being a Parvati knock off is that Parvati has no shame whatsoever. I think woman like Michele and just recently Cassidy Clark are similar to Parvati in the way they strategize and being beautiful woman. However, I think being smelly on an Island sort of takes the flirtiness away from a lot of the woman while Parvati doesn't care.

[@ceoofnascar2986]

While I was applying for survivor, I kept thinking to myself “If Ryan Ulrich can get on, I can too” lol

[@reginamachamer821]

5:27 the list of Hantzs bit has me dead 😂 maybe one day they'll do a Hantz vs. Mariano season where it's Russell and his family vs. Rob and Amber and their herd of kids lmao

[@maximaldinotrap]

Do you want Rob and Amber's kids to murder their parents?

[@Lechgang]

I want you to know that my girlfriend and I do Bransteeles all the time as a hobby, and Louie is always a certified guarentee meme pick. It genuinely took me aback seeing him on this list.

[@joemonkeyman4675]

I remember Pirate Master! Joe Don was one of my favorites of that show, so the fact that he was apparently originally on Survivor Guatemala is wild to me and I'm glad that he got cast on *something* at least, because he's really good TV. I'd also argue that Azmyth from that season could possibly have been an Ozzy knock-off?

[@THE1ANDONLYCUBIX]

Now you definitely have to make a video on Pirate Master that definitely triggered a fever dream memory I watched it when it came out when I was 6 with my mom she was a big survivor fan I always remember calling it the survivor pirate season and when I binge watched Pearl Islands years later I was confused because it wasn’t how I remembered it! Holy shit lol

[@danielyesilonis7205]

So glad to see the Pirate Master love! It's up there with with Kid Nation in the "amazing mid-2000s trainwreck reality show that flopped after one season" category.

[@gregoryfuller9736]

Tony is a russel with social game that people actually want to vote for

[@itstheref]

That first Coach season was incredible. Agreed.

[@yugiohlover101]

Oh god Luke you unlocked this fever dream memory of me being new to Survivor and then also seeing ads for Pirate Master and tuning in a few weeks until it got cancelled lol. I definitely remember Louie being Rupertesque and one of the teams being Ulong and losing week after week but I don't remember which one. Would love a video diving into it lol.

[@tvmania2]

The teams were different every week, but what you're thinking of is that the format was that the reigning captain and their two officers were always on the black team, and everyone else was divided between the black and red team at random, and there was a period where the captain and officers were 3 strong guys, so they kept winning and keeping their positions of power, which is most likely what led to the officer position eventually being disbanded and those 3 strong guys being separated.

[@nathan4327]

Debbie Vince Phillip and Tarzan for Coach is my guess Edit: whoa

[@stevenstevenson2943]

"we have coach at home"

[@lowdonator]

I really am surprised as big of a survivor fan i am, have never even heard of "Pirate Master" lol

[@paulokuyo7722]

HHH was the first survivor season i ever watched so seeing Joe's idol play unfold blew my mind

[@JohnnyHikesSW]

As much as I hate to say this, Taj from Tocantins is by far the best example of this. She’s not exactly the same as Cirie but she has roughly the same demographic profile and a very similar skillset (ie Taj is good at the game for the same reasons that Cirie is)

[@Lsaldana92]

It's OK Cirie and Taj are both fun and honestly I want an episode where the two of them as narrator of an episode.

[@solarvide0s]

i do agree that they’re similar, but i think a lot of the initial appeal of cirie’s character was the fact that she was an everyday woman who “got up off the couch” to play the game; meanwhile, taj was married to a celebrity & was literally a pop star before survivor

[@penthousewhippit]

I think that Taj is much more physically skilled than self-proclaimed couch potato cirie. Taj was helping her team win physical challenges and a little socially insecure whereas Cirie is opposite.

[@UlyssesWachowski-vw5vi]

Circe is a harsh, mean, manipulative person (as a character on the show, who knows what she is like in life, not speaking about life), and Taj is a beam of sunshine who has nary a strategic bone in her body. Don’t see it at all.

[@addi543]

I wish Taj had returned at some point, she was hilarious in pointing out Coach’s act

[@antoineharris2176]

If we could do honorable mentions I would definitely put Cassandra from Survivor Fiji as a knock off version of Cirie from Panama. It's not just the fact that they were middle aged African-American women. They played up how Cassandra in Fiji was afraid of the outdoors similarly to the way Cirie was afraid of leaves in Panama. Only difference between the two is that Cirie has a great social game and Cassandra...didn't.

[@eve5724]

I'd like to say Christian from David vs Goliath is survivors best casting ever

[@GeorgeEugeneBarrett]

Naw. It’s Coach.

[@kellydaunis]

@@GeorgeEugeneBarrett It's Christian

[@Mentally_Will]

I really wish that Joe Don guy had made it to Survivor solely because he would still to this day be the only Alaskan to play. Seriously, how has Survivor never cast one of those survivalist types for the show?

[@NealFowler]

The Simpsons Hantz joke made me laugh way more than it should’ve.

[@thumbhead3370]

I think Jeff was really hoping Gabler would turn into another knockoff Coach, but we just got, well, Gabler.

[@joshuajones7733]

At least he's amusing lol

[@Shutterbun4]

"If Coach is 'The Room', Phillip is "Sharknado'" HAHAHAHA! Oh damn that is perfect.

[@garycarter6773]

Anyone who calls themselves "WAR DOG" better be able to back it up and he never could. His physical skills were non existent. Lol

[@matthewstorrs7084]

I do not doubt that CBS would have had a Hantz every season if they had their way. I think they were doomed by the 1-2 punch of Willie Hantz getting violent on Big Brother and then Brandon's meltdown on Caramoan. They probably really still wanted Hantz's on their shows, but realized they were too risky to be worth the proverbial squeeze at that point.

[@Awesometrax]

Willie's expulsion happened after Brandon's meltdown/expulsion, which is why CBS said they were done with the Hantz family after Willie was expelled from Big Brother.

[@Aviator43]

Debbie being a coach recreation went so far that id argue she's spunoff into her own whole group of knockoffs with Noura (39) and Carolyn (44) being examples of this

[@reginamachamer821]

"..knowing they would bicker over who was the rightful ... zan." 😂

[@giovanniorellana2200]

Bodega Tony better be Number 1!

[@speedymathias8224]

Me:Mom can we get survivor at home? Mom:We have survivor at home Survivor at home:

[@2rachaelm]

"That's what happens when you order off wish" - pure gold right there 🤣

[@jjb33083]

That's one of the funniest thumbnails and titles, I have seen this year! Great video bro! "Wish" lmao!!!

[@colabunga]

The Spuckler-Hantz joke had me rolling lmao thanks

[@BBoy2015]

Holy shit you mentioning Pirate Master triggered a core memory. Maybe growing up on Survivor and The Amazing Race plus my impressionable young brain made me numb to bad reality tv but I remember it as a guilty pleasure of sorts because of how thematic it was, so you doing a deep dive into it would be a fun watch.

[@erikschultz934]

never thought pirate master would be referenced on a survivor youtube channel. but the comparison fits.

[@alex9190]

i guess the geeky fish out of water is my favorite archetype because cochran, fishbach, and christian are 3 of my favorite players

[@lizkw8497]

Ditto

[@OMoney45]

I know this is over a year old but the amount of Sophie knock offs is also insane (Aubrey, Shereen, Hannah) but I feel like they never win anymore because Sophie was a bit arrogant whereas the others were more anxious and indecisive. You could argue its the archetype of "nerdy girl" but I'd argue sophie and the rest were more analytical and socially calculated than the archetype would put them in

[@KingsNerdCave]

Thank you defending Ometepe, I hate seeing people say that season was rigged. Yes Rob took control of passive youth who were fans of his, but he still played well getting rid of the smart players on the tribe, keeping them all in check, performing well in challenges, and even finding the idol. But now after watching this I do believe Krista was another Natalie and they might have been setting things up for Russel to be the dominant one.

[@GroverJ83]

Even if Rich vs Russell was their original plan,by the time they were casting players for the season Rob was already set. This isnt' even speculation multiple people who were interviewed in casting for Redemption Island have said Production asked them a lot of questions to gaging how they felt about Rob.

[@ghostofkenny]

Angelina is the true heir to Coach.

[@Tangerinewc]

Idk if Q was casted to be a coach clone but he feels like Coach 2

[@whiskeyhoarder9587]

Spot on about coach being the best cast member ever. He is hilarious whenever he is on camera

[@cjtrules1]

No Parvati knockoffs? I'm pretty sure there is at least one.

[@s.s6499]

There's Libby from Ghost Island according to Domenick (not that I agree) but jokes aside..

[@GenocideLv]

russel looks exactly what I would imagine every guy named russel would look like if that makes sense

[@janejones7638]

Yep, this is 100% accurate. Especially the forgetting that Pirate Master existed. I watched the first episode and was like hell no, this is stupid.

[@BanditSurvivorContent]

That thumbnail is actually so funny lmao like Joe was just taken and got wish slapped onto his photo

[@NDawgHoyt]

Being reminded of the existence of Pirate Masters is not something I expected today.

[@queenzoroark]

Put Kass and Kathy together and add glasses, it's like seeing double to me.

[@sh0g0kawada]

As someone who actually watched Pirate Master, I respect the sneak

[@nikkilogo6720]

This whole zeke, Ryan, Cochran, Jacob talk got me wondering if we can have survivor: nerds

[@EmilyBrown-ic7vv]

Please breakdown Pirate Master! Growing up, I loved Rupert the Pirate 😂 I didn't even know the other show existed, sounds interesting

[@SporkSlayer]

I'm expecting a lot of Parvati 2.0's on this list.

[@eagerturtle4791]

I reckon BB was an attempt at recreating Rudy, but he never came close.

[@patrycjasadowska7066]

they could do a season with returning players titled most impressive duos like Tony and Sarah, Dannise and Malcolm, Dom and Wendell, Cody and Jessie etc. but they would be on separate teams. Maybe video about that?

[@bevs9995]

It was funny to me How Erik From Micronesia thought that Will Wahl was a re-casting lookalike of him; when I thought the first time I saw Erik, was that he was a knock-off of Ian Rosenberger.

[@acooldog4959]

bro i am so HERE for this pirate master content. i feel seen. please make a pirate master video, this show is so freaking wild

[@WindexCornBean]

I’d say noura from survivor 39 is a coach clone too

[@thebeardedwondercorbin8058]

Elaine didn't call her a fruit loop for no reason

[@zeaferjones1404]

Noura is clone of Julie from Edge of Extinction. It's crazy because the 3rd place finishers of back-to-back seasons are basically the same person.

[@GenericRead1992]

I'm so glad I'm not the only person on earth to remember Pirate Master

[@computermaster124816]

I wasn't a Survivor fan at the time, but I watched every episode of Pirate Master. I loved that show. I was kinda annoyed when it moved online, especially since I didn't know why at the time.

[@greysonchu3758]

Did anyone notice Debbie’s occupation changing at 8:18

[@garycarter6773]

I loved Pirate Master and was so pissed when it was cancelled. I didn't have internet at the time so I couldn't watch the remaining episodes of the season. I still have the broadcast episodes I taped on VHS.

[@HotRoute7]

What was the birthday bit with Ryan?

[@kfizzle5086]

The whole pirate master but is hilarious

[@daverindone655]

Gabriel being the Scarlet Spider to Ethan.

[@JordanPippenger23]

You should have included Brad Reese from Survivor 41 to the list as a survivor clone of Tony Vlachos when he dove into some bushes and was listening to other people's conversations.

[@pictoriavark]

would LOVE a video on archetypes

[@bevs9995]

All of Coach's castings where great. And I never saw any other cast as trying to replicate him. Guess its just not possible.

[@brendanfechter4889]

Joe and Wardog weren't Tony but both were great fun

[@papiayuso]

Bodega Tony = Joe Mena the GOAT, Joe Mena added so much entertainment value to HHH he carried the season for the first half

[@jsmalls9575]

Mom, can we get Cochran? We have Cochran at home. Cochran at home: Ryan

[@CSManiac33]

Hey I was one of the people that watched Pirate Master when it aired. Missed the last episode that actually aired on TV and then went for years never remembering the shows name.

[@jarrettbakersr]

Man, this was great!😂😂 Very creative topic. Can we get a part 2?

[@MagnitudeReviews]

It’s only a matter of time until they find a Jonathan (S42) clone. Hell, they already got a Maryanne clone that was the first to be evicted.

[@uglyaniimals]

is jonathan rly that different from the general ozzy / joe archetype ? with ig the biggest difference being that it didn't take him until his return appearances to get a villain arc

[@ASG-nm4cz]

@@uglyaniimals You don't look at Ozzy in the same way and go "here's somebody who will carry his team in every challenge before the merge and will be a big strength threat when it come to individual immunities." Also, with his lack of any skill in social game or puzzles, I think he's who the audience expected John to be in DvG.

[@uglyaniimals]

@@ASG-nm4cz i kinda do though ? same deal with joe, even if they're not as physically imposing peak ozzy can absolutely carry his tribe in challenges you are right though abt the big difference between them which is that jonathan can't do puzzles whereas the other two can edit: just checked and ozzy actually went to a lot of premerge tribals in micronesia and south pacific then i thought so you kinda have a point here, my b. it's interesting since according to that one video, he's still the statistically best challenge beast by a wide margin

[@dbliss741]

Same archetype, not a clone though

[@asmodeus58XX]

I'd say Cochran himself started as a clone of Stephen and to date I consider him inferior, even if he won a million and Stephen didn't.

[@zeaferjones1404]

The thing that sucks is I don't like Cochran but I do like Christian and I think Cochran basically made it impossible for someone like Christian to win because he is nerdy like Cochran but way more charismatic. So, they all assumed that Christian was some master strategist out to get them when he was really just a guy with social charm that was trying to calm down his emotional ally Gabby from doing something crazy which she ends up doing.

[@lilmac808]

Well I know what I'm binging for no reason next. Pirate master

[@peytonbond4886]

Question: you said Tony voting off Trish was game advancing. I never understood why he did that, because it would have been 3-2 if he voted with her and she still would have gone home, but in that case he wouldn’t have betrayed her. So by throwing his vote on the her, she went home and got betrayed, which could have potentially lost him a jury vote or even a few. Why do you say it’s game advancing?

[@oliviaboudreau6284]

Low key and throwback example from Exile Island Courtney and from Cook Islands Jessica “Flika”? Thoughts??

[@papiayuso]

Bodega Tony made HHH a good season, Joe was the most entertaining in HHH and gave me something to look forward to in heroes vs healers vs hustlers

[@ViperVenoM13]

Philippe Shepard is the clone to nobody, he's one of the best.

[@aaronbentley6373]

Teresa was basically Tina 2.0

[@charlieradant]

Bro did Wardog dirty with the throwing thing

[@jolteon345]

The best part about Wardog is that he’s so clearly supposed to be a Tony knockoff yet all he managed to do was be an Ace knockoff.

[@thoringroth]

I’d love to see a video about some eliminations that were entirely inaccurate to what actually happened.

[@natalienathaniel9265]

You need to do A part 2 of this

[@cannedpineapple2702]

11:15 yeah accurate i never heard of that show til two minutes ago lmao

[@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766]

Debbie broke the coach mold. Lord have mercy she was so obnoxious she could make people quit the show if given a few chances … mental.

[@khaanhnguyenle2354]

We have both Weird Coach and Weird Cochran in 45

[@eitanshapiro862]

I love pirate master and the horrible quality of videos I found of it. That just adds to it's knockoff of Survivor quality. But it was actually a really good show and I wish it stayed on for longer than one season

[@aholman102]

"cloney vlachos" bAHAH plsss

[@24688868]

This list needs to be updated already...

[@penthousewhippit]

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