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@MrRyan-wu4jx9 ай бұрын
I think it’s possible to applaud the brilliant tree of Andy Reid and his ability to pass on knowledge and also praise Belichek for getting the most out of some real morons.
@pauljimerson82189 ай бұрын
That's a fair way to look at it
@shanereitz76009 ай бұрын
If Belichek is going to get the credit for being a genius, he should get the blame for continuing to hire morons.
@DarkHound59 ай бұрын
The pedigree from Walsh to Holmgrem to Reid is kind of insane. Like anyone in Reid’s tree has an insane lineage to pull from
@leoblazer749 ай бұрын
A coaching tree built on one genius quarterback😂
@davidaustad77989 ай бұрын
isn’t crazy though that nobody on coaching except has had success as a head coach i don’t ever happened other then with bill. i wonder if it’s a control thing.
@ilznidiotic9 ай бұрын
My happiest day as a football fan was when DeMeco Ryans was hired as Texans' coach, signalling the end of the McNairs' obsession with turning the Texans into Patriots South. Becoming 49ers South is going to be a huge improvement.
@maskedman56579 ай бұрын
Hardly see y'all becoming the Niners South. That's just ridiculous
@andrewvaldez86899 ай бұрын
Plus he's a former Texan
@PapaSwisha9 ай бұрын
The niners are Texans west considering Shanahan Lafleur McDaniels them all came from Gary Kubiak
@ForelliBoy9 ай бұрын
Becoming playoff chokers would be an improvement from not making the playoffs at all
@izzo29989 ай бұрын
Hated Kubiak. He was a mediocre coach.@@BlacknWhiteBadger88
@christophermillsap50649 ай бұрын
Matt Patricia. The guy who stubbornly stood by his decision to have his practices outside in the snow… and the Lions play in a DOME.
@6140LIBRA7 ай бұрын
Omg😆
@mollyanderson6574 ай бұрын
Guess the Eagles didn't see matt's time in Detroit.
@vicepresidentmikepence8899 ай бұрын
Bill Belichick's career coaching record was 41-57 the day Tom Brady took over as starting quarterback in September of 2001
@ConnorO749 ай бұрын
Also partly due to the fact he coached the browns
@the-angel-of-light-gardevoir89 ай бұрын
@@ConnorO74not a usable excuse… the browns were actually good… infact a few years after they moved to Baltimore they won a super bowl
@vicepresidentmikepence8899 ай бұрын
@ConnorO74 You do realize, the browns were in the afc championship in 1986, 1987, and 1989, and Bill Belichick became browns coach in 1991, don't you???? Also, even if the browns were such a bad franchise, which they clearly weren't, don't you think St. Belichick would've turned the team around???
@jennyanydots23899 ай бұрын
He brought Thom in from the local Kroger where he was stockin' shelves full of boxed mashed potatoes and boxed dry spaghetti. Thom would be, right now son, dead or tied up for gRape in some dude's basement if not for Bill Buildachuck. So show a little respect boy. Talk right about the man yo.
@TheCaptainjuicy9 ай бұрын
@@ConnorO74The iteration of the browns that belichick ran became the ravens, the modern day browns are something different entirely and poorly ran. Belichick at the very least had a decent infrastructure with the browns at the time.
@TippiGordon9 ай бұрын
There's a lot of well-deserved schadenfreude on this list, but let's take a moment to give some love to Romeo Crennel. The guy saw one of his best players take his own life after murdering his girlfriend, and led his team through that with as much grace and humanity as possible, win-loss record be damned. If there's a more traumatic event that a coach had to go through, I don't even want to know about it.
@nicholasleach20199 ай бұрын
You're right
@morsumbra96929 ай бұрын
Rae Caruth... ordered a hit on his pregnant girlfriend.
@UserName-ts3sp9 ай бұрын
@@morsumbra9692i think jovan belcher was more tragic than rae though both are fucked up. at least rae’s kid survived
@ck-16499 ай бұрын
And he did lead the Browns to a 10-6 record
@MrBerdman779 ай бұрын
Charlie Weis is also a part of BB’s rotten tree, Norte Dame fell apart and Kansas was awful during his tenures despite being the OC during the Pats first dynasty
@zlinedavid9 ай бұрын
And scarily enough, Big Chuckie was probably the 2nd best of the bunch behind O’Brian. His first two years at ND weren’t bad, BCS bowl berths in both. After that he was mediocre at best, and he was putrid at Kansas.
@IamUroboros9 ай бұрын
Weis came up with belichick under Bill Parcels actually.
@kriosuranous34408 ай бұрын
@@zlinedavidif we’re counting college then the best of Belichik’s coaching tree is easily Nick Saban, not O’Brien
@lawv8049 ай бұрын
Someone forgot that Nick Saban is from Belichick's coaching tree. Saban was the first assistant Belichick ever hired as a head coach.
@DNSKansas9 ай бұрын
Belichick was in Toledo immediately after his first Browns press conference, begging Saban to come east on the Ohio Turnpike.
@KanyeTheGayFish699 ай бұрын
No nick Saban doesn’t really count. He wasn’t successful in the nfl.
@memyself8989 ай бұрын
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 no he most certainly was not. Prick.....
@clarkkent15219 ай бұрын
Saban is 15-17 as an NFL head coach.
@natturnertv9 ай бұрын
@@clarkkent1521 but he's still one of the greatest coaches because of what he does on the college level. You can't take that away from him. Bill Walsh great NFL coach ok college coach 34-24-1.
@skakirask9 ай бұрын
Hiring Judge was a panic move by the Giants. They wanted Matt Rhule but Carolina jumped the line and offered way more money. The team would’ve been screwed either way lmao
@youtubeistryingtocensorme7 ай бұрын
Daboll actually is all that bad. Its just his Quarterback sucks and he doesn’t have much of an offensive line
@InterloperBob9 ай бұрын
The reason BBs text was important, and not just funny, was because BB was told Daboll got the job before Flores interviewed, which proves that Flores interview was a sham.
@nathaniellevesque27829 ай бұрын
You should do a video on the coaches with the best coaching trees.
@TecMatt9 ай бұрын
Andy Reid is up there for sure
@jennyanydots23899 ай бұрын
@@TecMatt Too bad The Woodchuck is on a sex offender list. That's why they have extra police around him on the sidelines every game. He don't just look the part... he's done the work son.
@nunyabusiness50759 ай бұрын
@@TecMatt Funny thing about Andy Reid, he got fired from Philly for never winning a Superbowl and going 4-12 in 2012. AFTER winning two rings with (and with Mahomes) the Chiefs now everyone loves him and thinks he's great.
@carnacthemagnificent24989 ай бұрын
@@nunyabusiness5075 I think it was time for Reid to go in Philly. he was mailing it in, probably because he was dealing with real family issues with his sons getting into bad stuff. I just think he needed a change of scene for his family. I believe he and the Eagles agreed to this together because the owner and GM are still close to Reid even after 'firing' him.
@Mullerology9 ай бұрын
Joe Judge is an enigma shrouded in mystery. He must be really good at interviews and that's it. He had a career day when Colt McCoy beat the Seahawks away in an empty stadium. He made it quite clear very early on that he was always destined to fail in New York though.
@dhkim39869 ай бұрын
I'm sure most douches do well in interviews. 😁
@williamli62009 ай бұрын
He was highly recommended by Belichick.
@andrewr73959 ай бұрын
Joe Judge talked to great game. All you have to do is watch his introductory press conference. He said all the right things. Combine Belichick’s recommendation, with a Giants front office that wanted to make a familiar higher, and that was all she wrote.
@yoshieggx649 ай бұрын
Does Mike Vrabel also count, considering he was on O'Brien's staff and played a big part in the Pats' early dynasty?
@jennyanydots23899 ай бұрын
Mick Vrabel's a real Bunt Citch if ya ask me boy!!! Keep his name outta yo mouf son!!
@woodside4life9 ай бұрын
I don’t think so since he never directly coached under Belichick
@jennyanydots23899 ай бұрын
@@woodside4life He might have Power Bottomed under Bill but you're right he never coached under Billy Big Boi... just played his races heart out for the man Billy Big Boi.
@maxmuetzel53649 ай бұрын
@@woodside4lifehe never coached under Bill, but hes a former player turned coach that does use Bills methods. Vrabels a Belicheck Alumni through and through.
@MrRyan-wu4jx9 ай бұрын
Most articles I’ve read on this topic either count him or at least bring him up. He was picking Bill’s brain for defense for the better part of a decade however you look at it.
@Hemmerschmidt9 ай бұрын
As someone who was a former assistant to a coach who was REALLY stubborn in his ways (without the hardware to show it worked btw) and seeing those ways clearly bear no fruit whatsoever, I can understand how annoying it must've been to deal with coaches like McDaniels, and the sweet release they must've felt when that time finally came to an end.
@johnbradbury86109 ай бұрын
Bill Walsh had the best coaching tree. Holmgren, ray Rhodes, mike shanahan, George Seifert, even sam wyche took Cincy to the Superbowl
@zlinedavid9 ай бұрын
Denny Green is directly under Walsh as well. Never made a Super Bowl but was a solid head coach. The 2nd level Walsh tree is just as incredible: Andy Reid, Tony Dungy, Brian Billick, Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy, John Harbaugh, Jon Gruden, Gary Kubiak, Doug Peterson, Sean McVey. In total, Walch’s coaching tree has a total of 15 Super Bowl wins. Throw in Walch’s 4 and and 1/3 of of all Super Bowls were won by Walsh or someone in his tree.
@farhanatashiga37219 ай бұрын
Idk about Seifert he was handed one of the best squads in the history of team sports, and when he goes to Carolina with a lesser squad he just shriveled up and die there.
@zlinedavid9 ай бұрын
@@farhanatashiga3721 Doesn’t matter whose players they were, the coach still has to coach them.
@KevinT72749 ай бұрын
@farhanatashiga3721 Seifert was handed the Ferrari in SF and to his credit he didn't wreck it. Carolina showed he wasn't good enough to make a Ferrari.
@NxFxKW9 ай бұрын
Plus his tree is very much alive today.
@CharlieQiu-v3u9 ай бұрын
Is Daboll really BB's coaching tree? I feel he's more McDermott's since he really rose to prominence after being the OC for the Bills during Josh Allen's rise from project QB to MVP candidate
@skakirask9 ай бұрын
Wondering the same. His Pats connection doesn’t appear to be as deep as the others on here
@morganyu8129 ай бұрын
You said it yourself. He rose to Prominence. Meaning he got more fame from turning around Allen's career. He still coached under BB.
@nunyabusiness50759 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter, if he sucks now and they can tie it to Belichick, however tenuously, it's fair game. Of course when Daboll was winning, oh no no no, that doesn't count. Remember fan is just a shortened version of fanatic, and fanatics aren't known for their reasoned arguments and logical consistency.
@howdareyouexist9 ай бұрын
he got his nfl start under belichick and spent more time under him than any other coach at 9-10 years so yes.
@nunyabusiness50759 ай бұрын
@@howdareyouexist True, but Daboll also spent time with the Jets, Browns, Dolphins, Chiefs and spent 4 years as Offensive Coordinator with the Bills right before becoming the head coach of the Giants in 2022. He was an offensive coordinator for 1/4 of the AFC (Browns, Dolphins, Chiefs, Bills) (but never was an OC for the Patriots) before becoming a head coach in the NFC.
@hommie7899 ай бұрын
Lets be fair though, Romeo Crennel and Brian Flores are both able coaches and given a team with talent they could easily dominate in the league. Their records and past were not really their faults nor show their actual ability, unlike McDaniel's who has a record 30% better than it should be and he should never be part or an NFL team again, pretty much the same as Bill O'Brian
@baxatakbaxatak20149 ай бұрын
Flores almost ruined Tua.
@woodside4life9 ай бұрын
Their records are literal measuring sticks of their abilities. Famous coach once said “You are what your record says you are.”
@hommie7899 ай бұрын
@@woodside4life their records are one part of who they are. When management gives you, well The Browns as a team to field, then you have no chance of any kind of winning record.
@KameSennin42099 ай бұрын
@@baxatakbaxatak2014this.
@simoncohen93239 ай бұрын
@@hommie789Brian Flores can't get a offense to save his life and almost wasted a top draft pick because he can't manage shit when he was a coach his offenses suck he isn't good he is a great defensive coordinator that it
@eastsidereviews7279 ай бұрын
Problem is that most of these dudes think they can act like and are Bill Belichick but they aren't. You can move like Bill when you have his record and success, but when you have neither you gotta move different. Hope to God we done with Josh McDaniels as a coaching candidate, he needs to be finished in all these towns.
@kenosabi9 ай бұрын
Fr. You'd think they would look at his very public record and think "this dude is hot garbage" and quit employing his ass.
@williamli62009 ай бұрын
Had you put Belichick in Raiders two years ago, you would get the same results out of Raiders.
@nunyabusiness50759 ай бұрын
After the deflategate SCAM the Colts tried to pull, I would wish McDaniels on them.
@youtubeistryingtocensorme7 ай бұрын
Bill O Brian should never be allowed to coach again. And Ohio State just hired him as an offensive coordinator. What is Ohio State thinking?
@12thMandalorian9 ай бұрын
Bill is one of the best coaches we've ever seen at coaching defenses so the DC cannot be gauged objectively and Brady similarly cloaked offensive ineptitude for years. Not all that surprising that an organization that was effectively a two person brain trust has failed to bear successful fruit.
@basteala5259 ай бұрын
I think a lot of the problem boils down to a lot of the BB Tree trying to run their team like BB would. Really hard nosed, borderline anti-player mentality. The thing is that as time passes, it's clear the Patriots Dynasty succeeded in spite of BB's culture, not because of it.
@morganyu8129 ай бұрын
I think more of the problem lies with BB as a GM. Hes not great at drafting players.
@williamli62009 ай бұрын
That is where fans got wrong : he is great at keeping games close, but he needs tons of resources to build such defense. If you expect his defense to make plays at critical, you will be disappointed most of the times.
@nunyabusiness50759 ай бұрын
@@morganyu812 Which is kind of odd because he's really good at collecting picks and making trades. The reason the Ravens were able to draft Ray Lewis in addition to Jonathan Ogden in the first round was trades made by Belichick. I would say he's a good GM who doesn't draft well, but few teams have as much talent on the bottom of the roster. It doesn't show up on the coaching tree, but Ozzie Newsome learned from Belichick, and went on to become a great GM for the Ravens.
@williamli62009 ай бұрын
@@nunyabusiness5075 "but Ozzie Newsome learned from Belichick, and went on to become a great GM for the Ravens." Ya, Belichick taught him, but he couldn't do it himself. Do you really believe the dogsh!t?
@mudman6199 ай бұрын
It's pretty obvious that the Belichick coaching system only works with a franchise QB like Brady running the offense. Giants were fluky last year - an exception rather than the rule. The one year the Patsies missed the playoffs, Brady missed almost the whole season. The more time passes, the more I come to believe it was Brady more than Belichick was the reason for their success.
@youtubeistryingtocensorme7 ай бұрын
I actually think Daboll is a good coach with a mediocre quarterback and a terrible offensive line
@TheQuadLaunchers9 ай бұрын
I feel like the jury is still out on Daboll. His personel SUCKS this year. He managed to get the team to the playoffs last year on what was essentially a rebuild. I think he needs another few years.
@mrterp049 ай бұрын
Now we know why McDaniels left the Colts at the alter: Because Jim Irsay is a white billionaire.
@dominicvandermyde37739 ай бұрын
Brian Flores is the only life that's actually left from that tree... Flores has a Top 5 defense in all major categories currently 🤷🏻♂️
@dominicvandermyde37739 ай бұрын
He actually has more of a chance to become a head coach again, Than Belichick has of retaining, or getting a HC job again
@arachnofiend28599 ай бұрын
I think most people agree that Flores was ousted from the Dolphins for reasons other than the quality of his coaching... He'll be good somewhere, I think.
@simoncohen93239 ай бұрын
@@dominicvandermyde3773that false
@simoncohen93239 ай бұрын
@@arachnofiend2859he was ousted because his offense was trash and tried getting rid of tua and almost ruined his career
@dominicvandermyde37739 ай бұрын
@@simoncohen9323 You don't know anything about football, Brian Flores is a DEFENSIVE coach, He saw Tua before Tua became Tua, So don't come on my thread acting like you know anything, They wanted this man to tank, and He wasn't willing to ruin his Head Coaching future because of it (They hired him because he was black so they could get him up out of the league, At least as a HC) it's cool tho, Keep reading articles that contain ZERO facts
@kennycai86959 ай бұрын
These days, I kind of feel coaching trees are overrated. Just because you worked with a legendary coach does not necessarily mean you will be successful once you strike out on your own. Even the once-respected Andy Reid coaching tree seems to have withered, and the best disciples on the downturn. The reasons for these are varied, but the biggest ones are power struggles within an organization, and the head coach being unable to adapt to a rapidly changing game. At least for power struggles, the HC can be scapegoated, but when the HC fails to adjust, there is no one to blame. Just because you worked with a legendary coach does not necessarily mean you will be successful once you strike out on your own, as shown with the failures of the Belichick disciples.
@unclecreepy41859 ай бұрын
Bill Belichick with Tom Brady as QB: Number of seasons as HC: 18 Record: 219-64 Winning Seasons: 18 Division Winner: 17 Playoff Made: 17 Playoff Record: 30-11 Super Bowls: 6 Bill Belichick without Tom Brady as QB: Number of seasons as HC: 11 Current Record: 81-97 Winning Seasons: 3 Division Winner: 0 Playoffs Made: 2 Playoff Record: 1-2 Super Bowls: 0 Tom Brady without Bill Belichick as HC: Number of seasons as QB: 3 Record: 32-18 Winning Seasons: 2 Division Winner: 2 Playoffs Made: 3 Playoff Record: 5-2 Super Bowls: 1
@youtubeistryingtocensorme9 ай бұрын
Game set match
@dabois82809 ай бұрын
The shanahan tree is growing into a forest at this point
@airacks52589 ай бұрын
It's interesting that the players he coached are doing better than his disciples.
@jennyanydots23899 ай бұрын
Brugh thats races. Are u sayin' that cuz Billy Big Boi's just a white boi he can't have no Blacks Power Bottoming fer him from his coach Tree? Brugh that might be races, Brugh, I don't know son. Better be careful boy... try that in a small town son
@airacks52589 ай бұрын
@@jennyanydots2389 what? Lls
@basteala5259 ай бұрын
@@jennyanydots2389 You realize you sound the complete opposite of intimidating when your spelling and reasoning skills are notably...*less* than the "boy" you're calling him out as, right?
@jennyanydots23899 ай бұрын
@@basteala525 I realize this. Why? We gotta problem here son? You tryin' to stan on my freedoms boiii?!?! Try that inside of a small town, boy
@kenosabi9 ай бұрын
Cringe asf.
@clarkkent15219 ай бұрын
The equation is simple. If you're a coach and you have Tom Brady, you look good. If you leave and no longer have Tom Brady, you'll be exposed for how bad you really are.
@thenumberquelve1589 ай бұрын
I'm still kinda rooting for Brian Flores to succeed in the NFL to be the one iconoclast from this coaching tree to actually shine without the aid of Touchdown Tom. He's shown lots of potential. I just *really* hope my Raiders keep our interim coach *THIS TIME* if he keeps doing a good job... I was hoping we'd keep Bisaccia all along, but I was willing to give McDaniels a chance. Boy oh boy did he blow that up.
@kevinbrianfahy9 ай бұрын
That conclusion at the end though!!! “None of them had Tom Brady” Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmn
@demdaddy7 ай бұрын
jim schwartz was part of belichicks coaching tree and he turned the browns d from worst last season to first this season.
@IamUroboros9 ай бұрын
Romeo Crennel is not apart of Belichicks coaching tree. Crennel came up WITH Belichick under Bill Parcells. Same for Charlie Weis.
@jonsmith76599 ай бұрын
I hate Tom Brady. But without him, Bill can’t win. He looks like a fraud at this point.
@chesscomsupport86898 ай бұрын
Belichick's disciples have all had the terrible misfortune of not having a Tom Brady on their teams.
@chriswahl41399 ай бұрын
Joe Gibbs had a pretty lousy coching tree Joe Bugel, Richie Pettibon, Dan Henning. Jimmy Johnson also wasn't much to write home about Dave Wandtstedt, Norv Turner, Dave Shula, Dave Campo, Butch Davis
@Nappyboy08059 ай бұрын
Andy Reid > Bill Belichick
@edman8139 ай бұрын
Kinda kinda not, aside Doug Pederson and John Harbaugh Matt Nagy sucked, Brad Childress mega sucked, Pat Shurmur sucked, and god forbid Steve Spagnuolo ever gets hired again as a HC.
@waynelei64599 ай бұрын
Belichick is the luckiest coach in the history, he passed on Tom Brady 5 times and still got him. And that move is the reason of his coaching career.
@youtubeistryingtocensorme9 ай бұрын
Lol damn if that’s not accurate
@konnorrockkonnoisseur49709 ай бұрын
3:08 never forget how much Brandon Perna loved this clip 😂😂
@ryanjacobs8368 ай бұрын
Only successful remaining assistant inter BB is Kirk Ferentz who’s still chugging along at Iowa getting 8-9 wins a season
@detroittigers12829 ай бұрын
Not going lie, I wanted Josh McDaniels in 2009 for my Lions, we got Matt Patricia in 2018 who I was excited about and was clearly a disaster. Bill O’Brien was clearly the most competent one, then ego, personal power did him in along with having a weirdo as franchise quarterback. Also seems like most of Belichick hires either had personal control or were hired by a fellow Patriot like here in Detroit where we had Bob Quinn the head of scouting with Patriots who brought in Patricia. And truth now is Belichick the GM is hurting Belichick the head coach. People like point out Belichick was 41-57 before Brady took over in 2001, however there is more context then just the numbers. Belichick took over a rebuilding Cleveland Browns job in 1991 pre free agency, so took longer turn a team around, after 3 years a combined record of 20-28, Belichick went 11-5 and won a playoff game in 1994 with Vinny Testeverde, and correctly made the unpopular decision to move on from Bernie Kosar who was done. In 1995 Browns had Super Bowl aspirations, got off to a 4-4 start when Art Modell pulled rug on the season with 8 games left. With rumors swirling that Modell was going move to the team prior to a home game against the Oilers a 37-10 loss, going 4-5, Modell the next day announced team would move to Baltimore in 1996 and team never recovered losing their next 5 games, before winning the second to last game the finale at Cleveland Stadium, finishing 5-11. Belichick got screwed by Modell, why he resigned as Jets head coach in 2000 who at the time were on the market to be sold, with no owner in place, Belichick wisely wasn’t going take his second and likely last chance of being a head coach and not knowing who the owner was after the way Art Modell did him wrong, including firing over the phone after saying Belichick woukd come to Baltimore with the team. So having a previous relationship with Robert Kraft as an assistant there in 1996 under Parcells, Belichick felt comfortable returning work for an owner like Kraft who seen the team was heading towards mediocrity under Pete Carroll. And yes Belichick started off 5-13 in New England however in 2008 and 2016 Brady would miss a total of 19 games where the team went 13-6 with quarterbacks like Matt Cassel, Jimmy G and Jacoby Brissett. The team didn’t implode like Colts did after Peyton Manning was out for season in 2011 with Colts going from 10-6 to 2-14. It was obvious Belichick had built a strong foundation led by a quarterback in Brady that bought in and set the tone for others too, but let’s not act he inherited a can’t miss prospect in Brady, who was a sixth round pick. The Patriots ranked 6th, 1st & 2nd in defense those first 3 Super Bowl titles, allowed Brady time to develop and become the GOAT from 2007 on when Brady won his first MVP. There was once an actual debate in the 00s between Peyton Manning and Brady. And I give Brady credit for winning with Bucs, first by having the football IQ to see how talented the Buccaneers were and not going to the Raiders, Chargers like some of teams he was rumored too. Unfortunately you hang on too long, you eventually won’t go out on top as Brady experienced his first losing season as starter last year, with a Brady unlike mentality where he ran off Arians then skipped out training camp over his wife, Brady lost the structure Belichick provided. And Belichick the GM has hurt Belichick the coach, his drafts of late have been head scratchers which has played a huge part in teams decline. Maybe Belichick will get his next team to join like Brady did the Buccaneers, a team with a quarterback in place like the Chargers, I like see it.
@classicalliberalarts9 ай бұрын
The "coaches who made a living off of Tom Brady's success" tree....
@LordSink179 ай бұрын
Except Daboll
@Cha-y4127 ай бұрын
The Belicheck coaching tree has a lot of termites! Joe Judge, Matt Patrica, and McDaniels are 3 of the biggest.
@bosslax31629 ай бұрын
I mean Vrabel is from the Patriots, and the Patriots currently have good assistants like Steve Belichick and Jerod Mayo. Flores also likely has a good chance of being a good head coach one day. Edit: as for GM's, there's still Ossenfort(Cardinals), Caserio(Texans), Licht(Buccaneers), and there was Ziegler(just fired by Raiders but still could be a good executive down the line)
@ahhculdee9 ай бұрын
I feel bad for Romeo Crennel.
@zacharyhadaway3189 ай бұрын
I'll admit it: I was brainwashed by Quinn and Patricia thinking they'd turn around the Lions. Boy was I wrong. They traded away Diggs and Slay, and I'll never forgive them for that. So glad the Lions hired Holmes and Campbell!
@conworldus83109 ай бұрын
It does make me wonder what would have happened if Tom Brady played for another coach all these years. I feel that if not for the Gisele drama, he could have won another SB in Tampa.
@l.rongardner21508 ай бұрын
"Know them by their fruit." 😂
@adameanglin9 ай бұрын
@ 5:00, using the Coors..."Coach, coach, coach!" commercials...the funniest commercials ever!
@anakinskyogre10379 ай бұрын
Us lions fans had to endure his influence for years thankfully was fired from Detroit
@ademirsegura63079 ай бұрын
And that led to Matt Stafford to Hollywood and a Super Bowl
@DNSKansas9 ай бұрын
The old lady loved Patricia. Sheila had to beg and beg and beg her mother to fire him and Quinn.
@specstar87247 ай бұрын
The Falcons are about to have the worst coaching staff of all time. And when Belichick dies we're going to sign joe judge to a contract guaranteed. We are so f*cked!
@EmmaBonn969 ай бұрын
I think it would be interesting to look at other limbs on bill parcells coaching tree. While Coughlin and Payton were successful their assistants haven’t really shown much more. Dan Campbell may be the exception.
@IamUroboros9 ай бұрын
There is far more turn over with assistants and coordinators these days. Honestly most coaches arent really innovating as much as they are using a subset of Bill Walsh's system, so really it's all Walsh's coaching tree, and if you actually look at his tree you'd find that to be mostly true. That just show's how far ahead Walsh actually was.
@EmmaBonn969 ай бұрын
@@IamUroboros I think the bill Walsh coaching tree is still alive and developing The Reid limb and the Shanahan limb still bear fruit. Perhaps that system is better for coaching trees compared to the Parcels system
@MHO9999999 ай бұрын
They should call it the Tom Brady coaching tree. You need a QB like Brady for the tree to bear fruit.
@KevinT72749 ай бұрын
Yep, Brady was the engine that made the Belichick car run. That's why Belichick isn't close to the top as far as all time great head coaches.
@maskedman56579 ай бұрын
Brian Flores has turned the Vikings roster all around compared to last year. And the Vikings Roster lost a lot defensive pieces. So this part of Bellicheck coaching tree is still kicking.
@BillyBob-wq9fl9 ай бұрын
Surprised brian hasnt claimed that someone called him a racial slur.
@maskedman56579 ай бұрын
@@BillyBob-wq9fl maybe because your jokes aren't funny
@mudman6199 ай бұрын
except the video is about head-coaching fails, not assistant coaches.
@maskedman56579 ай бұрын
@@mudman619 But Daboll hasn't really failed tho
@ilznidiotic9 ай бұрын
@@maskedman5657 It ain't looking great
@troxbeats9 ай бұрын
Dang, no mention of Charlie Weis, the OG disciple of Belichick?
@Xhoven9 ай бұрын
I'm guessing he's only considering disciples that went on to be NFL head coaches, since coaching in college is just a completely different world.
@denizgifford16708 ай бұрын
Bill Without Brady Is not even the best coach in this grouping. 11 Seasons without Brady and he has no Division titles, 1 Playoff win and 2 Playoff appearances. 2 Bottom of division finishes. At least Bill OBrien could win a division.
@unclecreepy41859 ай бұрын
Bill Belichick had a dream one night. As he walked along the beach with the Lord, he saw two sets of footprints in the sand and flashes of his career, after the last moments of his career, he looked back and noticed often only 1 set of prints. My Lord, why is it when I had success and was winning, there’s only one set of footprints? Why would you leave me? The Lord replied, my son, those are the times Tom Brady carried you.
@candlestickboy12039 ай бұрын
FTR Bill O'Brien did not lead the Texans to their first 2 playoff wins. That piece of history belongs to Gary Kubiak
@tobylou87 ай бұрын
Because without Brady, Belichick isn't a legend and Belichick is just a .500 or lower coach. Doesn't everyone know this by now!!??
@TippiGordon9 ай бұрын
You should do a video on the most flourishing coaching tree. Gotta be the Andy Reid - Mike Holmgren - Bill Walsh - Paul Brown (and all its many branches) tree, right?
@Dar-oi3tw9 ай бұрын
Good video Fives, now can we see a video as to why Andy Reid's coaching tree is so successful. I mean the fact that one won a Super Bowl before he did with Doug Peterson and the Eagles in 2017-18 and that Andy faced both Peterson and Sirianni in the Playoffs last year, something Belichick never had the privilege of facing his own tree in most of a playoff run, proves that the Reid Tree is superior to the Belichick Tree even if Belichick has twice as many Super Bowl Rings as the Reid Tree put together. I mean the lowest branch of the Reid Tree is Ron Rivera and arguably Matt Nagy. Although lets be honest, both are screwed by infighting within the Reid coaching Tree since Nagy went insane after the Double Doink, which was caused by Peterson, and Rivera has to face Sirianni twice every year.
@georgesouthwick70007 ай бұрын
The reason Belichick’s discipline have failed is because none of them had Tom Brady as their quarterback.
@robb10689 ай бұрын
You mean none of these guys made the genius move of discovering his backup quarterback was a future Hall of Famer and generational talent?😂
@bryantsteury89109 ай бұрын
The whole Flores and racism suit was such nonsense. "Bill Belechik called the wrong person with the same first name, and a last name two letters different, it's racism!!!"
@jennyanydots23899 ай бұрын
Bill should give Thom one of his rings and service him extra for how much he did fer him.
@nunyabusiness50759 ай бұрын
What about the two Superbowl rings Belichick got while being the defensive coordinator with the Giants? Does he have to give those away too?
@williamli62009 ай бұрын
@@nunyabusiness5075 When his defense was asked to save the team at critical times, his defense failed, even played less than 20 minutes. The missing FG saved the Giants. Remember how Pats beat Bills? that is what he needed from his QB, with a cheap squad, against good teams.
@jennyanydots23899 ай бұрын
@@nunyabusiness5075 If Billy Big Boi didn't have some of the best (certainly one of the best in LT) pass rush in NFL history that team isn't remembered for anything and Billy Big Boi is probably acting assistant managing his local Home Depot for a living by now. Just like in NE... he only cuts the turds when he had the personnel... love to see how good the defense is without Lawrence Tayler, probably the most feared pass rusher in modern NFL history... (maybe reggie white Tops his Power Bottom out)
@brutusvonmanhammer9 ай бұрын
Ayyyyyyy! 5 Points upload! What a way to cap off a crazy Saturday of college football!
@minhduong14849 ай бұрын
If I remember right, Brian Flores was congratulated for getting the New York job before he even interviewed. Flores was scheduled to be interviewed later. That would mean Daboll already had the job and the Flores interview was just for appearances. That is if everything alleged is true.
@moonjelly59 ай бұрын
Honestly, Brian Flores deserved better. He was a decent coach, but Miami was not the best place for him.
@LordBeezleDwarf7 ай бұрын
Big like! Youre the only person talkin about this reality! Crazy how none of them have been successful without tom brady who proved he really is the goat when he won in tampa
@75aces979 ай бұрын
Belichick came off of one of the great coaching trees, but is turning out like Joe Gibbs, who was also an excellent coach for years, but did not produce any lineage of great disciples.
@sirekumasutra70229 ай бұрын
Patricia looked like homeless DJ Khaled. When he coached our Lions I used to call him Coach Khaled.
@OwlGreene9 ай бұрын
Desharby Watstein... One reason why I watch FivePoints faithfully.
@BushnoSkillzz9 ай бұрын
Gunna say what the football world has been terrified to admit. Belicheck had a losing record when Brady showed up, and hes had a losing record since he left. Its not just having greatest most clutch player of all time, he had him taking pay cuts, and he had the best free agents every year taking pay cuts to ring chase. Belicheck rode Brady into the Hall of Fame and his coaching system doesnt work for his disciples cuz it doesnt work for anyone including himself without Brady.
@hanshawks50888 ай бұрын
Bill Walsh hired good people and wasn't afraid to let them succeed
@graham57277 ай бұрын
Flores is an elite coach but nobody wants him because of him suing the nfl. As a vikings fan I won’t complain
@josel.martinez72109 ай бұрын
BB owes his success to Brady! Losing record before Brady, and struggling since!
@Danmar729 ай бұрын
When will people not realize that both Tom and Bill needed each other for success. Also the SB in Tampa, Tom had a super team and another top ten of all time hc.
@williamli62009 ай бұрын
Check how the greatest show on turf did in 1999 and 2000 playoffs. Brady needed defense, NOT Brady needed Belichick's defense.
@IBangedUrMom694209 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s why he’s not the best QB ever, Sys-Tom was a beneficiary of great situations, he couldn’t make a situation great.
@williamli62009 ай бұрын
@@IBangedUrMom69420 The team he took over was one of the worst teams in 2001. He turned Pats around.
@slickrick74557 ай бұрын
Walsh’s coaching tree still growing!
@SolidShepard9 ай бұрын
Always has been. He has more super bowls, but an argument can be made for andy reid over him as he actually develops coaches. Andys coaching tree is crazy.
@Amp51508 ай бұрын
it's pretty clear now tom brady was literally carrying them all. mcdaniels, obrien and patricia are among the very worst football coaches/gm's that have ever been employed in the nfl
@krisgordon31167 ай бұрын
Notice how Belichick sends failed disciples to teams that beat him in the Super Bowl.
@ted65129 ай бұрын
I can give you one reason why Belichick's coaches haven't succeeded, no Brady.
@teewrx4207 ай бұрын
Tom Brady is the only reason Belichick will ever be discussed in the same breath as Landry, Lombardi, and Parcells.
@DavidLimofLimReport9 ай бұрын
Bill Belichick is the Sir Alex Ferguson of the NFL in that all his proteges have failed. In McDaniels, Garcia, O'Brien, Dabol, you have Bruce, Hughes, Robson and Scholes.
@BiggusJakeus9 ай бұрын
At least people take a chance on his coaches. No one wants Tomlin’s bums
@michaelbugliosi7359 ай бұрын
this is common in the real world. a single high performer (brady) makes an entire staff look way better than they actually are. when other organizations attempt to poach that "talent", they are ultimately disappointed
@sethmaki13339 ай бұрын
Brian Flores is experiencing a bit of a phoenix rise as Minnesota's DC. I wouldn't say it's quite all the way dead yet.
@joermnyc9 ай бұрын
Well hey, Jack del Rio needs a job, maybe Belichek can make him even worse!
@shifty19279 ай бұрын
As a Washington fan it still hurts seeing the Shanahan coaching tree. Especially knowing we had all that talent but stuck with Jay Gruden.😂😂
@panchotheaddict4209 ай бұрын
falcons same
@jackbryan46768 ай бұрын
Imagine if Daboll gets replaced this off-season by Belichick, and the new Pats coach is Josh McDaniels. The NFL comedy meter would go on full tilt.
@rubenwrld49589 ай бұрын
"Turns out.. he had a manGINA" this killed me 😭 6:34
@baronvg9 ай бұрын
That clip of Belichick rudely shoving that cameraman out of the way will never get old lol
@stevesherman17439 ай бұрын
Mike Judge would have been preferable to Joe Judge. “Huh-huhhh-heh-huh, shut up Beavis !”
@kassi4207 ай бұрын
“O’Brien thought he was as smart of a GM as his tutor” soooo what you’re saying he’s Belicheat’s equal as GM? Cuz Belichick SUCKS as a GM, especially drafting.
@MrTexasGamer20059 ай бұрын
O’Brian won a playoff game win Osweiler, but on the other hand, he had to play the Raiders with Connor Cook at QB
@dacryptkeeper68369 ай бұрын
Take Brady out of the picture, and the trunk of the tree is a rotten as its branches!
@youtubeistryingtocensorme9 ай бұрын
This
@captainjack83199 ай бұрын
It is good and bad, for Belichick, if you think about it. It is good because it shows that he was likely the big brain in the room and he deserves the bulk of the coaching credit. It is bad because it shows that his talent acquisition was dubious, and it makes him look lesser than other great coaches who have good trees.
@melenzoferrer47869 ай бұрын
BB coaching tree was just sent out by BB to destroy teams.
@Tytoalba7779 ай бұрын
It's not often you come across a coaching tree so large but so dead.
@shiqialexshen84649 ай бұрын
At this point, the Belichick Coaching Tree is the NFL equivalence of Drafting USC QBs, grossly overrated and you should stay away unless you absolutely have no other choices..
@jrob24309 ай бұрын
Romeo was a coach THREE YEARS AGO? Geez I forgot it was that recent
@ErikCB9129 ай бұрын
He was the interim hc for the Texans after BOB was fired.