The Incredibly Dumb Bears Stadium Saga

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[@pcbullets8726]

In a twist, they relocate to the North Dakota and become the Bismarck Bears.

[@MichaelPiz]

I was laughing at the prospect of the Gary Bears.

[@eggsngritstn]

@@MichaelPiz Imagine explaining to someone in 1980 that in the future a SECOND team would consider moving to Indiana.

[@jimoconnor6382]

Good, bring the white Sox with

[@encinobalboa]

Wanting to relocate to a friendlier municipality, the team buys a complete town and re-names it Bad News.

[@o9brian]

If they do I’m down to leave Chicago… the reason to have a team to cheer for is to have them in a place people want to go to. I would have gone to Arlington Heights a long time ago but now I just want to get out of Illinois

[@johnchedsey1306]

I really wish state and city governments will tell sports teams to fuck off and pay for their own accommodations. Stadium projects are a terrible investment for the taxpayers. Educating our youth IS a good investment. This is why I hope the A's never actually get a stadium anywhere and are forced to play in Triple A stadiums like hobos for decades.

[@bouncypear_net]

All the more reason I was pleasantly surprised by the governor's stance, as a Green Bay fan living in the Chicago burbs, I really don't want to pay for a new Bears stadium. That's dumb

[@ronintje7647]

The mere fact these owners want new stadiums all the time shows how right you are with keeping government funding out. If they pay for their own building, they would be more carefull and not have to ask for a new one every other decade. This however will never happen as there will always be some other government willing to spend in order to lure a team to their town/city/state.

[@kman9884]

@@bouncypear_netPritzker ain’t no dummy. He’s the reason Illinois isn’t woefully indebted.

[@trevornott2488]

Since Carter, the education system in the US is a disaster. Now, Trump will make an attempt to fix it by ending the Department of Education. but the idea, especially with Illinois politics, to feed the education system more money, is just ignorant. Furthermore, these stadiums can be used 365 days a year, yet an NFL team will only use it 8-10 times a year. If the dorks riding public transportation can't pay for it 100% (even though they are 100% of the users), why do you demand an NFL team pay 100% of the costs for something they only use 3% of the time? The FACT is, these stadiums bring in tourism and generate the economy. Unless you are ok with giving the owners of the stadium, the reason the tourists are in the city, most if not all of that revenue, then shut your mouth.

[@josephrupsis4623]

​@@kman9884 yeah but his party is. Plus his policies are taxing the businesses right out of Illinois. Good that he's not funding the stadium tho

[@maplejet]

The third largest metropolitan area in the United States having the smallest stadium in the league...what a mistake.

[@GOODMuzikBoi]

@@maplejet that’s what happens when the ownership is extremely cheap & content with being mediocre as long as they can sell out their games. Bulls and White Sox ownership is worst but nobody is really talking about it

[@beaniemac]

That's their fault for removing seating with the last renovation. There's no room on the lakefront for them to build a larger stadium.

[@selanryn5849]

@@GOODMuzikBoi Ironically, the Bulls have the largest arena in the NBA.

[@EGuala21]

They need to win some games first. Nobody is about to pay 600m in taxes and the team won’t even pay a top player to go there.

[@ericgood8960]

They used the trophy room space for additional seats. Go Pack Go!

[@firemanjeff911]

I was 14 when I got a high five from Walter Payton at the old Soldier Field. in 1984. I doubt I'll ever forget that.

[@clintholmes2061]

I did that too... in techmo bowl, but you don't hear me bragging about it.

[@ericonly]

That's awesome!

[@user-cv8qe9ru8c]

"I doubt I'll ever forget that" I mean I'm glad you remember demetia could strike.

[@winstonwolf6791]

Small world. Last Bears game I ever attended was when I was 14 in 1984. I saw Payton break the rushing record from the 50 yard line with seats from a neighbor who got called in to work last minute. Great memory and I am not even a Bears fan.

[@NotNykoh]

Hell yea Bear down

[@williamsmith666]

It's remarkable how often "incredibly stupid" and "Bears" go together...like chocolate and peanut butter

[@frederickshaibani5655]

Fixed it for you: "It's remarkable how often those two traits coincide." --Captain Jack Sparrow

[@hecksters423]

So... Reese's cups?

[@PzShockz]

You like the giants go lose 40-0 to the cowboys again 🤣

[@CHITECHGUY]

How are they stupid in your eyes? I guess you have ran an organization before to understand how it all works eh?

[@phillipvelednitskiy6881]

@@CHITECHGUY forcing the public to pay a billion dollars for a bullshit stadium is stupid

[@rmyoung87]

Few people in Chicago are taking the McCaskey's side on anything here. They haven't exactly earned any good will over the years to have any sycophants.

[@illiniguy34]

I’m more surprised that Virginia is still alive than this whole stadium saga.

[@frederickshaibani5655]

Bro anyone who lives over 100 is built different. Fingers crossed for myself (great-grandparents lived to 87 and 97, respectively)

[@illiniguy34]

@@frederickshaibani5655 maybe she’s secretly a witch using something to keep her alive, that way the team doesn’t get sold.

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

She’s mentally on Saturn at this point. George has been running things for over a decade now, and he still can’t quit Ted Phillips.

[@illiniguy34]

@@baxatakbaxatak2014 George has just been counting down the days until his mom croaks so he can sell the team.

[@dnasty312]

​@@baxatakbaxatak2014 BETELGEUSE: Hey, I've been to Saturn!

[@williampcasey]

"Soldier Field, despite theoretically being located in downtown Chicago, is about as accessible as a nineteenth-century whaling post. One side is bordered by a frigid lake and the other by a Scooby Doo style railroad yard. The only remaining option is to walk thirty minutes through a series of tunnels that act as amplifiers for every bucket-drummer in Cook County." -commenter Jack, " Why Your Team Sucks 2014: Chicago Bears", Deadspin

[@PTSayoriD]

Dude fr the bucket drummers are just as plentiful as McDonalds in Chicago

[@cmbells7736]

Your description made me like the location and surrounding area. Poor baby's have to walk by poor ppl and feel the wind off the lake. No wonder yalls team sucks, yall bitches it seems.

[@kevinmc4500]

That’s fffkn funnny!!!

[@TheHallway7]

I agree.Kankakee county here. It’s a joke that it is a pain to get in and out of Soldier field . Still not enough bathrooms. My son and I went to the Detroit game last season. I asked a Lions fan if Ford fields bathroom lines were a mile long. They said, no,not even a problem.

[@a.barker7792]

Anybody that has problems with the location of the most beautiful back drop in pro football would complain about a one car parade. I had season tickets for 30 plus years, but let them go over price only. Not parking, location or bathrooms.

[@alexanderg1297]

“The Bears vs. Beetlejuice” would make for a great 30 for 30 doc

[@MkMuphin..]

Start winning some games then we can talk, the dagger that started it all

[@natebuiltit5158]

@@MkMuphin..the real beginning dagger was the park district not even replying to Ted Philips email about putting a Sportsbook in soldier field. Got a reply 7 months after the original email and they just told him they wouldn’t even talk about or entertain it 🤣 good ol city of Chicago? You mean the Bears and the city can make money? Na we’re good on that 🤣

[@laurenmp7486]

The Bears and Sox both having stadium dramas at the same time is just peak Chicago sports. Especially since where the Sox play is 33 years old, so it's not exactly old either.

[@alejbr4]

its like one of the oldest in north america, most of the stadiums and arenas have been built in the last 16-18 yrs

[@MarloSoBalJr]

You know the reason is because the white Sox no longer wants to be associated with the blacks of Southside 😅

[@Yaltear]

​@@MarloSoBalJr Sure buddy... maybe keep the racism to yourself

[@GarrettWorcester]

@@MarloSoBalJr Take that Maryland flag off of your profile, you twit.

[@ironfistalexander3246]

@@MarloSoBalJr no, reinsdorf wants to up the value of the team using free money from the tax payers before his kids sell

[@maxxjapan619]

THE MCKASKYS! *thunder clap*

[@AYoungAdultOnYoutube]

I don’t know why it keeps doing that…

[@someloser2847]

The two worst things about this mess: 1. Green bay renovated their stadium and did it right 2. Mayor beetlejuice’s idea looks pretty good rn compared to the other 2

[@cpob2013]

And the packers did it largely with raising money from fans through stock offerings

[@tylerpuszczewicz2535]

So, is that the only thing she ever done right?

[@JackDanaher2001]

I have a take here: The Bears should've never rebuilt Soldier Field. They should've kept Old Soldier Field the same as the Packers have been doing with Lambeau Field.

[@qaxcgyujm]

Ya the Packers have continuously been renovating Lambeau with their own money which is why they're able to continue using it and still have plans for the next few decades to continue renovating the stadium and surrounding area with their own money and through stockholder sales. The only time they used taxpayer money was the initial massive renovation in the late 90s but since then it's been all paid for by the team and just like how the Bears don't own Solider Field the Packers don't even own Lambeau Field yet they're still dumping money continuously into it. The McCaskeys are too cheap to go deep into their pockets to keep a stadium up to date for long periods.

[@theroachden6195]

​@@qaxcgyujmthe Packers are publicly owned so they don't have their own money.

[@williamhermann6635]

​@@qaxcgyujm Mccaskeys have no incentive seeing as Bears fans will happily keep paying uber bucks for a crappy product and experience.

[@somebloodybrit8067]

The Gary Stadium sounds about as inviting as an away day in Istanbul.

[@cmorris9494]

Istanbul to Constantinople

[@martindeyanov5267]

the istanbul away day will at least have an atmosphere and the food will be decent

[@frederickshaibani5655]

I'd rather shave my nuts with a potato peeler than visit Gary, Indiana

[@benjaminrichey278]

I'd love to see that actually!

[@isthatyoursomnomnom]

The Chicago Bears are an NFL franchise worth 6.3 billion dollars. They can afford to build their own stadium. STOP SUBSIDIZING BILLIONAIRES WITH TAX DOLLARS.

[@cpob2013]

Ironically the green bay packers dont have a billionaire owner, as a nonprofit everything gets invested back into the team, and apart from a few expansions and nearby rennovations it would be unthinkable to ever leave lambeau field

[@frankdobs]

@@cpob2013 They are in the middle of nowhere though and only have the team to bring people to the city so they have to care about the people not wanting to pay

[@kenkunz1428]

Absolutely!

[@johntorres5153]

​@@frankdobs the new bears stadium will be built outside of the city of Chicago just like Detroits lions stadium..... once the tax base moves out the windy city will be just like the motor city

[@frankdobs]

@@johntorres5153 And? I'm just trying to say the circumstances are different then the packers who have nothing else going for the area besides it being near a lake.

[@chrisj.9882]

Not only were the taxpayers asked to pay $400 million for the renovation 20 years ago, but I'm pretty sure they haven't even begun to pay off the principle. It's gonna cost A LOT more than that when (if?) it's all done. Here's a key thing about the current situation: They bought the Arlington Heights land under former team president Ted Phillips. He apparently was all about building there. Then he retires, Kevin Warren shows up and is like, "You bought the land before you got a deal made? You fools, you did it backwards!" Warren has been all gung ho about trying to get a new stadium on the lakefront. Lori Lightfoot's attempts to woo the Bears were too little, too late. She was antagonistic towards them until they bought the land in Arlington Heights. Her plans always came off as a bit rushed and under-thought. Kevin Warren -- if he really is trying to get a stadium built on the lakefront - really hasn't done a good job at all from building up any goodwill on the matter. He comes off very pompous every time he opens his mouth on the matter. Then again, it's possible this is all just a leverage ploy to get tax breaks out of Arlington Heights. (That said, he sure has put a ton of time into pushing from his proposed lakefront stadium).

[@phytonso9877]

The issue is that the Bears have very little leverage over Arlington Heights. If they don't build there, they'll eventually sell to some developer who can build a big mixed-use development that will have great freeway and commuter rail access. That development will probably come with more local property taxes for Arlington Heights than a stadium district, and have fewer negative externalities on the local populace.

[@lastpme]

It is never a good idea to renovate a stadium because the owner is still going to want a new stadium.

[@thoughtfulbobcat1872]

If Illinois was a person Chicago is where the enema hose would go in.

[@RickinBaltimore]

Nice Bret Hart reference there

[@williamhermann6635]

The colon of the midwest

[@matthewheywood8532]

Except chicago props up the whole state and it be Iowa without chicago

[@williamhermann6635]

@@matthewheywood8532 Is that why people all over the state are paying 5 figure property taxes? Stop trying to propup Chicago as anything other than the dump it really is.

[@williamwhite2908]

Perfect!

[@michaelneuhaus4432]

They played actually at Wrigley field until 1970

[@PicoRiveraCalifornia]

Did anyone in Chicago ask Aaron Rodgers if they could build a new stadium in Arlington Heights?

[@edboi5354]

Underrated comment

[@frederickshaibani5655]

I mean, he does still own them, so I guess

[@johnchedsey1306]

He'd tell you that 9/11 was caused by aliens. On LDS provided by the CIA.

[@nickhaynes2550]

@@frederickshaibani5655I thought he transferred the deed to Jordan Love.

[@GOODMuzikBoi]

@@nickhaynes2550unfortunately they need to talk with Da Scammer Brett Farve first before they give it away to Love😂 damn it’s hard to be a Bears fan sometimes.

[@adamaizenberg756]

I work at the Field Museum. I enjoy having the stadium being right where I’m working, however there’s only one street that allows you access to and from the stadium. So it can be quite the headache when it comes time for everyone to leave. If they did do the update here it would be cool to see how it all turns out.

[@lucrative6477]

Ah, the Gillette stadium design. How terrible.

[@Redmenace96]

My favorite stadium building story is from Joe Robbie and the Orange Bowl. He went through the same thing the Bears are going through with city/county/state govt. being jerks. He said, "hold my beer". He built Joe Robbie Stadium directly on the Dade-Broward county line, WITH HIS OWN MONEY. Controlled all concession and parking. It immediatly doubled the value of the franchise! When the Bears (or any NFL franchise) sez, "It is impossible for us to build a stadium with our own money", the translation is- "We don't feel like it." The Bears are so, so dumb for not seizing that Arlington property and building a state-of-the-art stadium, just like So Fi. Yes, you will have debt! But you will print money for the next 100 years!!!!!!

[@GarrettWorcester]

"We don't feel like it." 💯🎯

[@HDreamer]

They want to print money, while not having to pay for the stadium.

[@jamesvokral4934]

McCaskey family is not worth enough to build own stadium. They should sell to some billionaire who will ante up his own money.

[@cubist12]

I think they absolutely plan on building in Arlington. Lakefront is for leverage and the Mayor fell right into it, because he's desperate to hang that achievement on his wall. Like you said, they will make money hand over fist, not just from the stadium, but all the development around it. There's tons of money-printing potential there. They're just going to get the school district to back down and will probably grease the palms with some promises of fundraising and donations in addition to the sales and hotel tax boon that they'll see.

[@carlsaganlives4036]

I think Papa George Halas paid $100 'charter fee' in 1920 beginning the crazy fiscal juggernaut the NFL and Bears have become...even adjusted for inflation that's crazy return considering it's entertainment, no physical product. $100!! And his family still owns the team, total throwback.

[@frederickshaibani5655]

New FivePointsVid? The equivalent of a Ron Burgundy news special

[@danielryan8089]

If pritzker was honestly concerned about food, he could start by consuming less himself.

[@tylerkochman1007]

I thought it was going to be called “McDome” because it was to be attached to the McCormick Place convention center and owned by the convention center authority

[@davidalexander8996]

The Bears have already secured 2 billion dollars in private donations. Maybe they should use that to build the domed stadium, dip into the tourist tax with permission to cover cost overruns, and delay the surrounding development until profits are realized from stadium events. Definitely don't use any taxpayer money. The White Sox need a new owner by the time the stadium lease expires if they're to stay in the Windy City. Finally, the Blackhawks were great as recently as the early to mid 2010s. The other teams apart from the Cubs haven't done much since the White Sox World Series title in 2005.

[@blacksportsguru]

They don't have donations. The nfl is giving them a 2 billion dollar loan. Illinois has to pay the remaining 3 to 4 billion

[@user-jn3vg3ts4f]

Didn't the Bears play,sorta,in the Super bowl right around that same time?, against the Colts and Payton?😮😢😅❤

[@blacksportsguru]

@@user-jn3vg3ts4f that was 19 years ago 2006

[@jeffthevideoguy23]

Not a penny of public funding. They want a new stadium, they can damn well pay for it themselves. If I want a new house, I can't go to the state and demand they pay for it.

[@juliannelong]

I was so excited when I first saw that lakeside stadium, but then I remembered the McCaskeys exist. That's life as a Bears fan for ya.

[@joermnyc]

A dome? Really? I guess playing the damn game in all weather conditions doesn’t make sense if you want to lure a Super Bowl to Chi-town.

[@williamhermann6635]

Bears know thats the only way they'll ever have anything to do with a super bowl

[@anthonytippett5997]

Over 100 years and they can never get this one right

[@harryparsons2099]

The Bears are rich. They don't need any public funds. It is too expensive for us to support them.

[@alejbr4]

the 89 thing was held up mostly because some ppl wanted the stadiums in their area, and it would have had all the teams in one spot even the idea of the cubs and sox sharing a field , i remember that

[@doctorbjones2283]

"Kevin Warren and the Bears weren't gonna let some nerd push them around," this line created a mental image in my head that made me laugh really hard.

[@PenskePC17]

Just turn it into the museum of ded rappers(the only claim to fame Chicago will have in 20 years anyway) and build a stadium in the suburbs.

[@robbie_ray]

I haven't even strated the video and I'm already angry. Something about George McCaskey that just riles me up.

[@addarryllcrawford62375]

True story: when the "new" Soldier Field opened for the Bears' Monday Night game against Green Bay, I was part of a concessions crew that went to work in the stadium (we were brought in from St Louis 😁). It was my first time in an actual NFL stadium (outside of the Dome); obviously, the Bears lost, I made money, and we enjoyed the drive to Chicago and back home. Those were fun times. 😊

[@brendansugrue5280]

You forgot to mention that Lightfoot initially pushed the Bears away when the city wouldn't return the Bears calls/requests to update Soldier Field, which is why they got desperate. It wasn't until Brandon Johnson got elected that the mayor's office started playing ball with Warren and the organization, which led to the new stadium proposal.

[@thomasfrench2012]

You missed a...(put whatever adjective you want here)...move. Trying to steal the thunder away from someone you hope will be your franchise QB by announcing it the day before you draft him.

[@jakesmith6233]

Another day in the life of THE MCKASKY'S (cue cheesy thunder)!

[@kbennett2587]

Just when I thought the Browns Stadium drama was bad. Lol

[@MkMuphin..]

To be clear sir, when there were talks on the Bears buying property of Arlington Heights race track the mayor Lightfoot said " Start winning some games and then we can talk about a new/updated stadium"

[@ToadHallPub]

Don't put it in quotation marks if it's not a quote. But if you're the McCaskeys with a boatload of cash and don't want to invest in the team, why should the city pay for new digs? The Bears will continue to be a circus, and as a Packer fan, I'm really enjoying the popcorn 🍿

[@Tjk468]

Calling Lori Lightfoot Beetlejuice is the funniest thing I’ve heard in a while 😂

[@kitchenerleslie8388]

Oh yeah Five Points vid!

[@ChainsGoldMask]

Great shit dude

[@therealSamG]

Jolene, Jolene, Joleeeene.

[@Crutches_Bob]

Meanwhile, in Buffalo, New Highmark Stadium is still under construction. Whether or not that will make any difference to the team is another matter.

[@GOODMuzikBoi]

McCaskey or Reinsdorf? Which owner is worst for Chicago?

[@MatthewThi11]

McCaskey, at least Virginia, cares. Her sons and other business partners sure as shit don't, but at least there's an attempt there. Reinsdorf doesn't give a fuck at all. I think that makes Reinsdorf a far worse owner, and I say this as someone who doesn't root for any of the teams he owns. The Bears are owned by the McCaskeys, the Hawks by the Wirtz, and the Cubs by the Ricketts. For the hell I can give each of them, I still don't think it compares to Reinsdorf. The Bulls are mediocre at their very best with him at the helm and the White Sox are the least successful franchise in all of baseball, even though they got that one miracle run in '05. It actively makes me angry to see a man like him running a sports franchise knowing what it does to fans who want to see a winning product. I hate the Sox big time, but even they don't deserve this.

[@GOODMuzikBoi]

@@MatthewThi11 I agree Reinsdorf is by far the worst

[@cmbells7736]

"Instead of building a new stadium like the normal they renovated" Green Bay Packers, "what you mean normal."

[@ArneAsada69]

No public funds should ever go to build a stadium or arena for a billionaire's privately owned professional sports team.

[@E-Brightvoid]

Arlington Heights pulling a fast one on the Bears will never not be funny.

[@erisi236]

On the plus side New Soldier Field will get 100 years of use

[@shrekdaddy6912]

What's worse the Arizona Coyotes Saga or the Bears Saga?

[@GOODMuzikBoi]

Da Bears by a long shot

[@ToadHallPub]

The Bears. Bastion of NFL history vs. Hockey in the desert.

[@Vincent_Kouri]

Bears fan here, I’ve been following this saga for the past few months and every time I hear about it I end up rolling my eyes Another reason why the Bears stadium is so dramatic is because the White Sox around the same time also made plans for a new stadium, asking for ~$1 billion once their lease with the city ends. So the legislature will allow public funding only if the Sox and Bears share stadiums. The stakes can’t (shouldn’t) get any higher

[@Mr.E723]

As a native of the Chicago area. I do like the idea of Chicago getting a domed stadium that can be used year round for events like the Super Bowl. However I’m also a Packers fan, and from that perspective I find this whole situation incredibly hilarious and look forward to seeing how long the Bears can drag this out for lol

[@okstever]

The Bears only started playing at Soldier field in 1971. They played at Wrigley Field before that. The Chicago Cardinals played there for 1 yr 1959. Most people don't even know that the Cardinals started in Chicago who played at Comiskey Park prior to 1959. Soldier Field is a relic and always was, it was never meant for Modern Football to be played there.

[@twillison8824]

Yep, the bears are from Decatur.

[@iandhr1]

What I find ironic is that the governor of Illinois is a billionaire and he's been highly skeptical of the economic benefits of using taxpayer funds for the stadium, and the mayor of Chicago, who was elected on a super-progressive platform, has been the biggest cheerleader of the project to get taxpayer funds to the billionaire McCaskeys.

[@elnumbrotres]

I despise soldier field. There’s not a good public transit option, and it’s a nightmare to get to and leave. You can’t go north on lakeshore drive, and they don’t allow Ubers to get into the stadium after the games. You literally have to walk for two miles through multiple bottlenecks to get an Uber out. It’s also a pain in the ass to get around the stadium. Part of the stadium isn’t connected to the rest; there’s only one way in and out of the 400 section

[@zackspiker_]

Bruh, Foxboro.

[@ToadHallPub]

Chicago being Chicago

[@andrewoolman]

It’s Virginia deserves for getting rid of the honey bear cheerleaders

[@jaywalkallstar]

I am completely against any city providing any money or any tax breaks to any sports teams for any reason. That money should be going to roads, sewers, and schools.

[@johnny6767g]

Any other city, sure, in Chicago too much money goes towards schools roads and sewers already

[@vegasprogambler5336]

nope. it will go to another stupid idea. at least these stupid ideas generally make money (sales, income, hotels, etc).

[@ThanondorfTV]

This would’ve been Lambeau Field if the Packers had an owner

[@williamhermann6635]

But they dont so its not.

[@fightsports66]

Instead of turning Soldier Field into a spaceship they should have just kept playing at the University of Illinois.

[@ademirsegura6307]

Yeah but the Chicago Fire (NOT the tv show) also played at Soldier Field prior to 2006 when moved to Seat Geek Stadium which was their own soccer specific stadium Til 2020 when they MOVED back

[@jackson4274]

The bears are woefully incompetent as an organization and I’m here for it as a Packers fan. Hope that ancient woman lives another 100 years and continues to make more football decisions

[@robthames5065]

We’re gonna kick your ass this year.

[@jackson4274]

@@robthames5065 womp womp caleb williams isn’t a franchise QB

[@Hiei2k7]

I think the writing is on the wall for anywhere that isn't Arlington Heights. So when the Bears got pissy over $33 Million in valuation (this is a stupid amount to fight over when the NFL turns over Billions a year) they said "We're no longer singularly focused" which was really the call for "Give us your best deal". And it faceplanted! Aurora, Naperville, and yes the city were all awash with rumors and "interest" but the Bears were only ever interested in "Free Money". Beetlejuice puts out renderings of a roof over existing Soldier at a price tag of 1-2 Billion. LOLNO. Then the Bears announce a press conference where they say they're working with the City/Park District to come up with a lakefront solution. Sounded nice until you saw who actually showed up. Warren on one side, and some random alderman on the other side. Not even the mayor of the city was there. This was a badly disguised red herring and anyone actually watching it knew it was bad theater. Then the rendering comes out of how this new stadium (loosely copied from JerryWhirled) is now magically going to sit south of Soldier Field on the Waldron Parking Deck. With what room in footprint space does anyone believe that a larger stadium is just going to sit on a smaller print south of Soldier? Lake Shore Drive is occupying the space, so are we going to spend to cut-and-cover LSD or some sort of Big Dig style operation to get to the needed footspace? Old Soldier is just going to be left the roman colonnades with park space and that's it? It's a nice render, but again - there was never a chance in hell. Now we have the AH mayor saying the teachers have sent a new agreement to be reviewed by the Bears. I feel that AH is it - especially now that Gov Pritzker has told both the McCaskeys and Jerry Reinsdorf that there will be no state money coming for either of them. The City of Chicago is still holding those bonds from New Soldier. Cook County isn't going to underwrite a stadium. None of the other counties around Cook are willing to commit municipal financial sudoku for the sake of having the Bears. Every elected official up there knows that this is political sudoku. The populace is educated enough to know that stadium money is not worth return on investment, and bitter enough to know that the McCaskeys can slobber the knob for all they've done while in ownership of the team since 1983. The only move for the Bears at this point is to build on land owned in AH, likely with monetary support from Churchill Downs so they can have a sportsbook/resort/casino thing. If they want the profits, they can sacrifice to build the dream. We aren't buying it anymore.

[@madsismad9113]

Just leave the state if football isn’t the focus, go somewhere that wants football

[@dumdawgpro]

yea theyll move the team to... st louis like where the cardinals and the rams left.

[@ironfistalexander3246]

we have to collectively agree as a country that giving public money to multi-billion dollar companies for free is bad and continually has shown to be a bad deal for tax payers

[@anthonyrivera4735]

Just move the bears to Cicero Illinois, soldier field is inconvenient to get to, they should've just gotten a new stadium in 2003.

[@laurenmp7486]

As someone who grew up in Cicero, the idea of having the Bears in Cicero is both pleasing and hilarious.

[@AaronAlexanderOfficial]

Where are they gonna put it in Cicero? Only place that's feasible is where the Speedway was... Of course you'll have to tear down the Wal-Mart over there.

[@kman9884]

Cicero is a shit hole, pass on that.

[@rexy5770]

Okay, calling my mom old is uncalled for.

[@oakroyal]

You’re not Detroit, We are and loving it! 3:33 Go Lions!

[@thomasb.smithjr.8401]

Traditionally conservative entities - like the Chicago Bears franchise - don't handle change - of any kind - well. It goes against their calcified, rib-rocked natures. Such when they do, it's like watching an elephant attempting to get up on its' hind legs in an effort to disco dance. Like sausage being made, you just don't want to see it. 🏉 😮

[@ComedyJakob]

As a Bears fan i sincerely hope the Bears move, the name stays in Chicago, and we get an expansion team in a few years.

[@americanphilosophy2701]

7:19 the interesting thing not mentioned is who the food and housing is for. Let's get the stadium.

[@lamontbradford4630]

You sound racist. Everyone knows you’re talking about Blacks.

[@reddays8448]

If it’s not in Chicago then it’s not Chicago

[@dumdawgpro]

just like the santa clara 49ers and the jersey jets and giants, the foxboro patriots, the arlington cowboys, the... you get the point.

[@brynellsidney3983]

They'll end up building in Arlington Heights......🤷🏾‍♂️

[@iamza.]

The Arlington Heights Bears!

[@jvjustvibes9103]

No they won’t

[@tamezzodiac2862]

The bears having a dome would be dissapointing.

[@myboibruhhh4014]

Yessss a bears stadium vidddd❤️

[@TheJohnold]

So this is what Alex Cora does in his free time.

[@mrnosaj71]

The Bears have a gift for doing nothing, on and off the field.

[@99somerville]

The taxpayers still owe a fortune for the renovations 20 years ago. Always the way.

[@markp8581]

6:50 An idiot sprays a hose while a wrecker shakes a 10000 lb I beam over his head.

[@catadmin]

Great vid 5points! Also I will recommend the coffee benchwarmer brew! It is really good coffee.

[@kenwickes2497]

The long term money for ownership is at Arlington. Stadium and surrounding commercial ownership would multiply profits. Arlington Heights schools do not need any money, that is a very affluent neighborhood, I have family living there. Infrastructure around the area is a different story roads, sewer, water, etc. Bears still have contract for Soldier Field through 2033 whether they play there or not. Expect them to stay until the end. The McCaskey family will never sell.

[@ChicagoBacon]

The Bears want to pay WAY LESS on taxes than what the property is worth. Arlington Heights negotiated with the team to pay less in taxes than what the purchase price was, but the Bears still said no. This isn't about a city asking a team to pay high taxes. It's about rich people not wanting to not pay their fair share.

[@ianemory5800]

I actually am all for the illinois government saying " build your own damn stadium"

[@Goldenblade14]

As an Illinois resident, our government is a fucking joke.

[@rhietpas]

Nah not this time. Tax payer money shouldn’t fun stadiums. This is a private business making dumb decisions.

[@twillison8824]

I concur, especially our California soy boy governor.

[@metsandjetsfan5174]

If I were the Mayor of Chicago or Governor of Illinois I would tell that Old Bag owner to either PAY UP or GET OUT and get the REAL owner who will for the new stadium that'd work

[@od9694]

Soldier Field is a famous stadium for Irish Rugby fans where we beat the All Blacks ( New Zealand) for the very first time ending one of the most amazing loosing runs in sports

[@miked51]

They will end up in Arlington. As a die hard I think it is the best move. As soon as the red tape is removed. Easy access and a boon to the area. In order for them to continue on the lakefront massive infrastructure needs to be done for commuting, not to mention the Friends Of The Park and taking excessive tax payer money. Pritzker won't budge period. Kevin Warren is not going to allow the Park District, or FOTP of Chicago to dictate anything.

[@ghoffmann821]

They started tearing down the racetrack before the tax issue came up. That's an important detail you seem to have missed. It's also worth pointing out that they bought the property at a premium, and if done by the book, and not the Chicago way, the sale price should have no bearing on the assessed value of a property which is mid-development.

[@GIMOTOR4]

I remember when there was talks about moving to Gary. I lived there at the time and was a little excited. They wanted to build the stadium on a superfund site near where the casinos used to be. Gary was also trying to become the third airport at the time. Fast forward to today and Gary has new bright ideas about coming back to life. Good luck because just like the Bears, it might be another 100 years before any progress is made.

[@HayabusaRyu]

The Bears ownership is the reason why they're so respected as a franchise but also why they're a giant lolcow.

[@MrDuds1984]

The Bears will be in Arlington Heights after the team is sold

[@DFDalton1962]

Dumb solution to the dumb problem: Arlington Park II, a new fully-domed state-of-the-art thoroughbred racetrack and casino, to be built in Grant Park. Bears buy and tear down Hawthorne Racecourse and move to Cicero. The White Sox move into Soldier Field. Bears sell the land in Arlington Heights to the town as the site for a sprawling new public school complex to satisfy the AH school district. Problem solved, in typical Chicago fashion.

[@coastdot1522]

Why spend a billion dollars to come 3rd place in the division

[@Love2Musgrave]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@meatynomnoms7113]

3rd? LMAO...

[@macro1391]

The Bears and White Sox have no leverage to get taxpayer subsidies. If the Bears left town a new franchise would come in immediately. Chicago is too big of a market for the NFL. If the White Sox left the city, we could make do with one baseball team…the Cubs.

[@sudahb]

Kevin Warren is running this show, not the Bears ownership. Keep in mind, it IS Chicago!

[@jamesdrummond7684]

Zero public dollars for billionaires. Period!

[@michaelmarlow6610]

The org has even said its main goal for the new stadium is to keep costs down and get it done on schedule. Which means it’s probably gonna suck. The ownership is too cheap to give themselves a good stadium and actually spend money.

[@carl7667]

Everything is just bad

[@righteousisthelord180]

Detroit fan here. I don’t know what it is like inside but I thought the Soldier Field space ship on top design is pretty daring and driving by it it is pretty cool.

[@georgeawestjr.9087]

ILMAO --- Mayor Bettlejuice 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[@unclecreepy4185]

One of my favorite exchanges in “It’s Always Sunny” is statewide cut backs meant the loonie bin had to release crazy Pete. Dennis thinks that’s crazy and Dee is like, well, it’s that or raise taxes, which just infuriates Dennis. “What! Raise taxes?!? I already pay a ton in taxes, how much do these vultures need?” He’s so angry at paying taxes to house the crazy people and wants to know where his tax money went. Dee said the used it to open up a new practice field for the Eagles. Then Dennis is all calm, “that makes sense. That’s a no-brainer. You can’t have out guys out there twisting ankles.”