Fives: From humble beginnings to heroic end (Battle of the Heroes and Villains)

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[@thorskywalker]

Respond to this comment with your nomination for which character we should do next, or vote with a thumbs up if they're already listed.

[@raicattivo]

Savage Opress

[@RyanTheDark]

Revan.

[@-e4o484]

*Grand* Admiral Thrawn

[@revan9810]

Revan

[@FifthRobin]

Leia

[@joyoustye2326]

They voted F to pay respects

[@DarthWillSmith]

Dammit can I go back and vote F? THOR! Hey Thor! Tally one more F!

[@bluellama2348]

@@DarthWillSmith lol

[@thehighground7732]

Good solders follow orders...

[@darthtroller]

😂😂😂

[@ontasbulent5709]

He was so close. He could have prevented Order 66, the Empire and the birth of Darth Vader. Anakin could have lived with his family and the galaxy wouldn’t have to suffer. At least he saved Ashoka and Rex.

[@zexalbrony4799]

In an alternate reality, he succeeded at stopping Order 66, which is what fan works are for.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

It's fun watching RotS now and thinking about how there is a point where Anakin has to be realizing that Fives was completely right. And it makes his complete breakdown that much more complete

[@forsetylord]

@@zexalbrony4799 cant wait for SW WHAT IF

[@acairconditioning5666]

I’m kinda shocked he’s higher than Rex, but since Fives is my second favorite clone I’m ok with it.

[@goodmind4940]

You're not shocked he's higher than Ahsoka and Yoda?

[@alexwallar8608]

I'm surprised he's #3

[@saraautio5693]

Yeah I'm with you on that, I'm also shocked at how high he is. Not that I'm complaining tho.

[@goodmind4940]

your comment is at 66 likes, it will be done my lord

[@darthnut7089]

I like fives better if I voted on rex I would've given him a B.

[@starwarsvault4154]

“Find Fives, FIND HIM!!!” Gosh I cant imagine the Star Wars universe without the whole clone wars series now ❤️

[@bluehero-96]

I can, and it's not bad at all.

[@l.hans0692]

Lionard Kirsch it wouldn’t make the PT less fun but what TCW does is makes the story of the PT make more sense in the long term,

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

@Lionard Kirsch And Maul is only good because of TCW.

[@bluehero-96]

@@rosesweetcharlotte Um... Lockdown? Shadow Hunter?

[@reportedbooch697]

“Ready to do my part, General Skywalker.”

[@jknetwork6211]

Fives was the reason rex and Ahsoka survived order 66. He wasn’t just a great clone, and not even just a great soldier, but a true brother to Rex in the end.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

And Rex was a true brother to him too. It's funny how I didn't really notice it on my first watch, but on rewatch, their relationship just jumps out a lot more. While all of the clones are brothers, Rex and Fives just seem so much closer than many of them

[@goldfishprime]

@@rosesweetcharlotte 3-CPO and R2-D2 can claim they are the reason anything happened... are they more important than Anakin?

[@RyanTheDark]

Rex is my favorite 501st trooper but Fives is the second.

[@mg3kiryu1]

I love fives, I would have given him an A if I saw the poll sooner.

[@oBard]

Same. Have been taking a class this summer so I didn't see the poll

[@LasertechStudios3142]

Same

[@MikefromTexas1]

"if I saw the poll sooner" I think that *everytime!*

[@AP-Design]

Fives was such a great character. He's up there with Rex in my book. Where Rex's character succeeds in an extended amount of screen time to be fleshed out, Fives succeeds in playing some of the most important and heroic roles of any clone in a short time.

[@sirstone4545]

I wasn't expecting Fives to be ranked so high since he's relatively obscure. This has me intrested in what the results would be for other obscure characters.

[@darthcaedus9130]

Theres, perhaps, only 1 person that could dethrone vader and thats Revan.

[@sirstone4545]

@@darthcaedus9130 Darth Revan has a huge advantage over other characters in Star Wars by the nature of the medium he was presented in. The way players interact with the character in Knights of the Old Republic is on such a personal level that it's easy to see why Revan is so beloved by the Star Wars fans who have experienced his story. Also I'm speaking in vague terms here as to not give anything away just in case anyone stumbles upon this comment not having played through the game.

[@darthcaedus9130]

@@sirstone4545 my bad. I missed the "obscure" word when I read it the first time. Now it all makes sense

[@8114梦见]

I think it is interesting because the more obscure characters will not get as many votes...so loved obscure characters should could really dethrone others.

[@goodmind4940]

@@8114梦见 you can just tell to vote F if you don't know the character, but that would be biased too lol

[@TheDanteJamesShow]

Literally one of the most amazing story arcs I’ve ever seen. I legit wanted to cry when he died.

[@NotMyRealName6]

1%: _Gives Fives an F_ Me: What? Does this mean you like Fox? Anakin: This is outrageous. It's unfair.

[@skyhime]

I think commander fox was that voter 😈😈😈😈😈

[@-e4o484]

Fives is one of the best clones period

[@brandondrake4609]

The best clone, period

[@rinkhoek3130]

He was my favorite clone when i first saw him only because of his name later he became my favorite clone because of his character

[@ninja_gaming8819]

Fives death is actually like the only scene in star wars that brings me close to tears. I can't say why exactly, but something about the whole tragedy is just really moving to me.

[@saraautio5693]

Fives is almost my favorite clone but Rex exists so he's confined to second place. Still he's a rly close second and seeing how Rex is my third favorite character in Star Wars then Fives definitely makes top 10. His death is so tragic everytime I hear "fox" I get this twinge of anger.

[@MCsCreations]

"I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Up the Irons. 😉

[@corvusalbus7276]

"And my blood is my own now Don't care where the past was I know where I'm going" \m/

[@besidzeli2884]

I think that you simply can‘t dislike fives, that’s why he got such a hight score but I think that most people don’t consider him to be their favorite character. That said, next 99.

[@albertdenovellis4051]

You know, even though I didn't expect it, I think it would have been really cool if at the end of the Bad Batch arc they had to tell Echo that Fives, his fellow ARC trooper and above that best friend, had died of supposed treason against the Republic. It would have been interesting to see the way Echo would have reacted, and above that, another of The Clone Wars memorable emotional moments.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

I think it would have been too sad. And I don't think Rex would really want to talk about it

[@AndreNitroX]

I don’t think I have felt such despair for a cartoon character as much as I did for fives when he died

[@djsalad5752]

One of my top 10 in all of Star Wars, so glad he got mentioned in season 7

[@MikefromTexas1]

That episode between Rex & 5s... man. I so hoped it wouldn't end that way, but knew it would.

[@Mark-dd6vx]

I think the most impressive thing about the clones is how we rate clones as individual characters, just shows the power of good writing.

[@joelightrailway2362]

Five’s wasn’t just a number, he was a person and seeing him grow from a rookie to arc trooper as well seeing him to find out about the chips which course his Conrad to kill a Jedi. But his death was so saddening to me as he found out who was behind this and the meaning of the chips were used for in his bothers heads. I do get emotional when Fives dies and it so upsetting To see Captain Rex trying to call him back which do gives me some tears on that scene. R. I. P. Fives 🙏 Captain Rex and Ashoka lives were saved thanks to the best Clone trooper in the franchise.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

We never really see Rex break down or get visibly upset about the deaths of his brothers. Except for Fives.

[@TheRagog]

Yes, he might be not a popular character but the journey he had great. It is not easy to go against everything you know true. Fives did this. He wasn't able to stop anything but he was able save Rex and Ahsoka. One of the most tragic moments of TCW.

[@McKeinMull]

I hear wait you’re say about the score possibly being slightly skewed, however where we are grading them as characters and not on popularity or favorites I would say his score is accurate. And I would say that for the part Fives plays he is an A. Btw I’d like to say great video Thor, with great conversation fuel.

[@nurabsal0x018c]

I think that the more supporting characters like Fives get such good ratings is just a testament to the relative quality of the full body of their writing. I don’t think people are saying that Fives is cooler and more interesting than the main characters, but many of the main characters have had outside issues (like Luke getting boned by the ST, shaky screenwriting at times with the prequels).

[@christophergrant3596]

Fives coming in at 3rd place. This a glorious day for the Republic.

[@falkyrie5228]

I think the rank doesn't simply show "the best star wars character", but instead how well the character filled his or her role in the story.

[@FifthRobin]

He is pretty cool, also next, Leia

[@teenageboyhormonalrage]

No. Me

[@FifthRobin]

@Lionard Kirsch yearh. Leia was #2 and at the beginning my only competition was the first comment. Well, it should be next time...

[@FifthRobin]

@@teenageboyhormonalrage why you stuck up half witted scruffy looking nerf herder!

[@teenageboyhormonalrage]

BEN THE SITH LORD who you calling scruffy lookin?

[@RawBerserker]

I rate CT-5555 "Fives" 5/5

[@ImTheReverse]

I rate him five fives out of twenty five. Translation: 25/25

[@Penguin5238]

55/55

[@iamironman3388]

The mission...the nightmares... they’ve finally... over

[@josephpenarrieta9619]

Rest easy soldier, rest easy ;_ ;

[@bigreaderpike]

I think some of the reason fives gets a higher voice is probably because more of your audience has watch the clone wars than general audiences who watch your channel I've also watched the movies I'm saying ispeople who watch your channel might have more variety over movie characters then clone wars characters.

[@bluehero-96]

Exactly. Fives is a good character, but in the wider world of Star Wars he's smaller fish in a big pond.

[@bluehero-96]

@Lionard Kirsch I hate the show, not it's characters. If things played out differently then I would have no problem with it. But that's easy to say isn't it? Fives is a bit predictable but no less admirable, even in the face of a ridiculous plot.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

@@bluehero-96 To be fair, you could say that about most Star Wars characters. The whole franchise is made up of little characters and moments that snowball into something bigger, but only on retrospect

[@bluehero-96]

@@rosesweetcharlotte Ok. But then that would mean that most star wars characters are b-tier, and that doesn't sound right.

[@mplummer]

Just before Revenge of the Sith was released I was talking to someone who knew a lot about Star Wars and he said that he had read or heard somewhere that the clones had a microchip implanted in their brains to make them switch over when Order 66 was given. I had not heard much about it myself and the movie did not mention implanted microchips. The Expanded Universe books seemed to infer that it was discipline and training to follow orders that made the clones obey Order 66 (to varying degrees, the more advanced and autonomous thinking Clone Commandos and ARC Troopers gave the Jedi a running start). The only way to save Star Wars is to reactivate the Expanded Universe as the Canon timeline, write new novels and comics in the Expanded Universe timeline, and make television shows with the Clone Wars animation style based on the Expanded Universe novels and comics.

[@BenjaminMrBvHHolmberg]

Thanks for featuring me dude! :)

[@chrisadams8227]

I’m not sure if video game only characters count, but I would say my favorite droid by far is HK-47 from KOTOR, and would be interested in seeing how he stacks up in others eyes. A solid A rank character in my eyes. Why you may ask? Condescending explanation:...

[@hp9351]

Don’t get me wrong, I love Fives, but how is he above Yoda and Ahsoka?

[@FifthRobin]

And Han and Luke!!!

[@hp9351]

BEN THE SITH LORD oh shit I didn’t even notice

[@John-zl8qx]

Yoda is a cool character but we're missing a majority of his story. Ahsoka had a shaky start and some still have the opinion she is an unnecessary character.

[@Jester-mc5jq]

John49594 yeah but over Han and Luke?

[@John-zl8qx]

@@FifthRobin Han is cool and all but he's a very predictable wildcard/outlaw type hero. Luke is great but nostalgia aside, other than the Vader father reveal he goes on a typical heroes journey type story.

[@WhyDaRumGone]

Defiantly surprised with this result. Even above rex

[@francescolombardi3438]

0:52 "Very impressive....f o r a c l o n e "

[@nachocheese2823]

All my homies hate Pong Krell

[@francescolombardi3438]

@@nachocheese2823 it's treason, then

[@ImTheReverse]

Francesco Lombardi **spinning dual-wield double-bladed lightsaber sounds intensify**

[@Killerbee4712]

@@ImTheReverse *asthmatic coughing intensifies*

[@clerkwithamouth]

Fives was always my favorite clone. Love seeing him so high on the list.

[@The1971Cuda1]

I didn’t see the poll. He’s my favorite clone, Rex is my second favorite clone.

[@morandasavich9563]

Ah, Fives. The most handsome clone.

[@abbyyates9533]

I love Fives so much (I did give him an A), but he’s not over Rex and Ahsoka for me. But ig if it weren’t for him, they’d be dead so🤷‍♀️

[@brotherbear3397]

Those who do not vote have already accepted tacit consent. The fandom has spoken.

[@steventesoriero2329]

As I was watching this someone I’m living with was listening to a comedian and I hear ‘join the service, join up and die, I’m dead, I died in WW2’ lol

[@jaredlocke4300]

5000 people going "YEP. THE BEST!" to every character that's voted on lol

[@dk5558]

Lmaooo I see that

[@Scorkey333]

I think I missed this vote, but I would have given him an A for many of the reasons already stated. The concept behind Fives is much of why The Clone Wars works. Also, why I still stand by the statement that it makes Revenge of the Sith a better watch. Honestly, one of things I like in the extended universes is that you do occasionally get to see other heroes try and fail to stop things, or just make a dent for the heroes we already know. Fives' arc, the Tarkin book, Catalyst, Rogue One and even Bloodlines all do this in some fashion.

[@steve93pa]

Hondo Onaka

[@lanceanakin0503]

Something else to remember is the clones are basically ten years old. These characters are more tragic in that light

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

It's not something they really ever bring up in the franchise, mostly because it is just too depressing. I feel like it is sort of hinted at in the final episodes, especially with the dialogue between Rex and Ahsoka efore things go to hell.

[@chathamreynolds-moore7377]

I'd be really interested to see how Pong Krell does in a poll like this.

[@chathamreynolds-moore7377]

@Lionard Kirsch that's exactly what I think he would get overall and why

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

Pong Krell is fun because despite the fact that he is rather one-dimensional, he represents a horrifying fact about the clones, that their quality of life is determined entirely by the opinions and actions of other people.

[@leib109]

I mean, Fives is a great character, but he’s not in the top 5 SW characters of all time.

[@ImTheReverse]

I mean, he’s an amazing character, but is he better than Luke Skywalker and Han Solo? In my opinion, not even close.

[@protector_of_the_realms]

I'mTheReverse with how I personally rate characters, means I weigh aspects I value very highly like change, progression, development and interesting unique enough concepts with turmoil and consequence higer than stuff like likeability and relatability (which are aspects significantly more so prone to bias by default) which still play a significant part in my personal assessment though. So to me Fives ends up higher than Luke (who admittedly I felt a bit indifferent towards in ANH hope with him being the generic farmer nobody hero trope though I loved him in the next 2 and that was an example of growth) and Han whom also do both suffer from their use in the sequels which I have to consider as well. So I don't have a problem where the OT guys are ranked so far but on my personal list I'd have Vader and Ankian as the same guy (or if not then Anikan would be in my top 5) and Ahsoka, Ventress and Maul would all be a bit higher

[@Noone-qs5jt]

@@protector_of_the_realms yeah, ventress needs more love. Together with ahsoka and maul she's the best developed character in the show

[@Noone-qs5jt]

@Lionard Kirsch finally someone says this. The original characters are pretty overrated. Specially han, everyone says he's one of the best characters but I don't see a lot unique to him. He's a common guy among aliens and people who can use the force. I'd take clone wars characters over them any day

[@Noone-qs5jt]

My top 10 would be 10 Leia 9 Rex 8 Yoda 7 Luke 6 Asajj Ventress 5 Maul 4 Darth Sidious 3 Ahsoka 2 Obi Wan 1 Anakin

[@mihirepel7590]

Fives deserved a Five

[@cancarmine4327]

Commander Fox disliked this video

[@basiosrasian225]

I don’t think Fox actually dislikes Fives, I think he was just following his orders.

[@saraautio5693]

I hate Fox so much, he could've set his blaster to stun or shot a leg or something with less effort than it took to shoot him in the heart. That was just cold blooded.

[@cancarmine4327]

@@basiosrasian225 I agree I was just making a joke lol

[@MrRaphaelLippi]

I had no idea it was fox who killed him lol, I thought it was just a Coruscant guard.

[@nandormandor9725]

@@saraautio5693 no he wasnt. From his point of view Fives was a traitor, he attacked the chancellor, and Palp's order was to kill him, that's why he didn't set his pistol for stun

[@Ebp90]

I love democracy

[@thetypicallifeofcousins2703]

I never saw the poll, if I had I would have voted

[@DrTimes99]

Same, and as much as I love Fives, I would have given him a middle B or so. He's great, but lacks that Exceptional quality that I think A's deserve.

[@inarencommander4663]

We need to vote in Sequel characters. If we only have characters we like in polls, we'll never have a wide view of good and bad.

[@ImTheReverse]

Watch Rey get like 1% in A and like 99% in F

[@MrRaphaelLippi]

there are some sequel lovers here , they are fewer, but they exist , I would like to see That's view on their opinion.

[@goodmind4940]

If one is to understand “the great mystery” one must study all it’s aspects, not just the dogmatic narrow view of the Jedi.

[@RedFuji4]

9:00: Order 66 is only to kill the target(s). What I mean that it those not work to all the Jedi. So what happened is that Darth Sidious ordered specially to kill all of the Jedi at once. Another thing, order 66 was made from the requests of Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas, who made the clone army.

[@steve93pa]

The 1% that pressed F were paying their respects. The 1% that pressed D are the real villains.

[@MegaJetty1]

What I'd like to know is what would happen between Captain Rex and Commander Cody should they meet up again during the reign of the Empire when Cody chose to betray the Jedi whereas Rex didn't. Will they square off in a blaster duel? Who will win?

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

I think it would depend on when they met up. In the few years after it happened? Cody would probably deem Rex a traitor and try and bring him in. But years later? Like many years later? I think Cody would be bitter and jealous that Rex is so much happier than he is. In the end, Rex has a little family, he has respect, he has peace of mind and control over his life. Cody ends up with absolutely nothing, not because he is a bad person, but just because of dumb luck

[@goodmind4940]

@@rosesweetcharlotte there's no such thing as luck, it was weird when Anakin said he taught Ahsoka otherwise when he always said "a very wise Jedi once said nothing happens by accident"

[@falconsociety167]

Fives, echo, waxer, and Rex are my favorite clones!!! EDIT: he got a 4.68 because good solders follow order

[@bobburger417]

What? How can you do this? it’s outrageous, it’s unfair. How can you be a side character, and be more popular than a main character?

[@agentwashington2946]

Great video! I really enjoyed it

[@jakeaurod]

Anyone here read about the Milgrim Studies that researched how people tend to follow orders from authority that can explain things like how the Holocaust happened? The story could have used social and political engineering to explain why the troopers followed Order 66 and committed such atrocities, but that arc would have been darker, scarier, and too realistic.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

And it would have taken too long. If we look at interviews and previous storylines, we can sort of see that the writers were struggling to figure out how to explain Order 66. The chips were an easier way out.

[@gregoryb3793]

This is Darth Bullsith of the Galactic Notification Empire! All wings, report in! Bullsith, standing by!

[@magatetus]

Gregory B Brown Leader, standing by!

[@8114梦见]

Red Two, standing by!

[@FifthRobin]

Fives over Yoda, Ahsoka, Luke, Han, Ani, Chewie...what!!!!!!!

[@alechboy3578]

Yea,he is just a stupid clone who deserved to die.

[@FifthRobin]

I am just saying I dunno how he is higher. He isn't a stewpid Clone who should die. He is a human.

[@pretentiousplum]

Alechboy Mlg if u watched the show you’d understand how good his character is. Like Thor said, he may not be the most popular but everyone who knows his character loves him

[@Vos661]

The TCW generation... They think that the main characters of TCW are better character than the Big Three... That's just sad. In 10 years, people will say the same things about the Sequel characters.

[@ImTheReverse]

Vos661 As good as Fives is as a character, he doesn’t have the right to even come close to Luke, Han, Chewie, etc. TCW fanatics are just so enthusiastic about the original characters. Like the people that claim Ahsoka is the best Star Wars character. Like, not even close.

[@Kerwarsh]

Fives is BEST clone! he does his job well, not afraid to call his commanding officers or Brothers out on their BS and all he wanted was to do his duty.

[@NamelessOne91]

I mean, he is a great character, but better than Yoda, Ahsoka and Rex? No way.

[@zachschmitt3654]

Five’s death was definitely the saddest in the series

[@DG2films]

Fives is a saint.

[@CAPTAINREX--tg3zd]

Find him find him fives find him fives!

[@drp1bb856]

My biggest issue I suppose with the season 6 5s arc is the plot hole after Tup is taken back to Kamino. 5s is quarantined, while Rex is free to head back to the front lines. This is based on that it could be contagious. 5s should rank higher than Rex. We got to see him start out as a cadet who is on the verge of being assigned to cleaning and maintenance to an ARC trooper who uncovered the “Grand Plan”.

[@CaptainRexCT-7567]

Fives just wanted to do his duty

[@Hendricus56]

One reason may be that YT didn't show the poll. The only reason I discovered it was when I looked if you posted a new poll

[@Oni_Primus]

Those who put fives at an F were paying respects.

[@nathanmarmaduke3270]

Fives is Awesome, but wow, above Luke Skywalker?!?! And Anakin?!?!?! What an honor

[@wowjack8944]

Fives > Rex. I think for the people that have watched clone wars his rating is pretty reasonable.

[@WhiteBirdPlays]

Because of Fives, Ahsoka and Rex lived

[@privatebh]

I love this series

[@scottjs5207]

I wish I saw the poll. I'd vote A for Fives too. You never know, he could've had an even higher final count too.

[@lordstarkiller2010]

Oh My God!!! I'm crying already... 😭

[@infinitedonuts]

Darn I missed it, I wish I could've voted this week

[@victorlanajr.2180]

Commander Cody he was a main character in the clone wars and he is important in revenge of the sith

[@awesomecom4399]

I can't take this poll seriously anymore. I like Fives but he isn't an A tier character. I feel some people think that just if they like a character they deserve an A. Do you really think he's better than Rex, Luke, Maul, Han, Yoda, Chewie, Ahsoka, Anakin, and Palpatine? Everyone is allowed to have their opinion, but I think most of you can agree that's a bit ridiculous.

[@RyansEggyRice]

Lando, Leia or Wilrow Hood please

[@ARC-wo4qr]

Next, could you do one of these videos on Echo?

[@TIGER-xk4gk]

Rest in Peace Fives

[@chrisjolly4880]

Fives is great sure. He was an excellent character and played his role well but this poll proves my earlier point how these polls have become "how likable is this character". 5ives being 3rd is absurd. Mace Windu and Anikan are both way better characters but tend to be "unlikable at times". Which especially in the Mace Windu case he was meant to be. Fives is definitely a 4/5 star mid-level supporting character but I feel the same people give everyone 5 stars and it takes away from the polls imo

[@tylercarpenter7747]

I think you should do Leia next.

[@goodmind4940]

You should fix how you count votes for obscure and popular characters lol, what if everyone voted A for Gonk droid, would he dethrone Kenobi?

[@Scooks]

Got to be some stacking here. No way he is that high

[@frozarburst6350]

First clone to make me cry before Captain Rex

[@gdtacos7082]

Well at least the dreams and nightmares are over... also known as the Disney trilogy don’t @ me

[@Mathadar]

Cad Bane

[@goodmind4940]

Why there are two clones and no Boba and Jango on the list?

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

Boba is really more of a joke at this point and Jango is more of a plot devise

[@kiki42719]

Love Fives and All the clones

[@kiki42719]

Hondo is gonna be top 5👀

[@Saboiano]

My fav clone is Ordo. I'm still waiting for the last book though.

[@eastbayrick]

Awesome video!

[@jamesevans4217]

5s, echo and rex r the best clones. No debate. . . And heavy.

[@JamesClarkRoguePimptastic]

I think how people vote on these polls has evolved over the last couple months. I think if Thor took everyone who's been graded so far, and had people give their top ten, with first being 10 points, and 10th being one point, that Ahsoka, Rex, and Yoda would rank higher than Fives.

[@goodmind4940]

evolved or devolved?