Fix a mushy front brake lever and swishing sound

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AZshooterman

AZshooterman

13 жыл бұрын

This fix cost me $4.50 for a can of cleaner and about 12 minutes to do the work. This is definitely something that you can do yourself.
This video will show you how to fix a mushy brake lever. My front brakes also made a swishing sound that went away when i pressed the front brake lever slightly.
This is a fix if there is no leak. If you are losing brake fluid, you have a leak somewhere. That requires a different fix.
The first thing you do is take off the brake calipers. Start on the side opposite the master cylinder, which is usually the left side of the bike. Have someone pump the brakes until the pistons close and the pads are touching. Then, spray a quality brake cleaner into there, Clean the pistons and surrounding area. What happens is there is no protection and grime and whatnot get up in there and stops the pistons from moving freely. Cleaning this will remove the gunk and allow the pistons to once again move freely. Do both sides. This is a god time to replace the pads if they need it. After you get it cleaned, take a puddy knife and pry the pads apart. Then, use a screwdriver to push the pistons back in place. Then, throw the caliper back on your bike. You will be amazed at how well this works.

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@gibbetswashere4058
@gibbetswashere4058 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome... had mechanic check out my bike yesterday. Bled both calipers, checked master cylinder, brake pads like new, was told nothing else to do...Rode home with lever still mushy and loose... Found this video today, watched it and had bike fixed and working perfect in less than half hour... Thank you
@justinbradshaw1385
@justinbradshaw1385 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My brakes have been driving me nuts. 32oz of bleeding and then rebuilding the master cylinder just to have the same problem so frustrating. I will try this tomorrow you the man 👍
@slsmith54
@slsmith54 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I have a 2003 fxdx and have been replacing the pads at half to keep the lever up never suspecting that it was the dirt and grime the whole time, and mine were not that dirty. No one else seemed to know including the dealer. TY again fixed the problem 100 percent.
@jcfornow
@jcfornow 8 жыл бұрын
I was talking to other experienced riders and we were looking at a new brake master cylinder replacement. Did this little trick and it worked like a charm!!! Brake handle is right up there now! Thank you for posting this video!!!
@onpointmotorworks7485
@onpointmotorworks7485 6 жыл бұрын
As a certified and highly experienced technician, I can say that most of the comments saying that this was the absolute wrong way to do this are wrong. You were very careful when moving the pads back out-although there are other, easier methods. Also, brake cleaner is fine and will NOT damage the square “o”ring on the pistons. Years of doing brakes have proven this. Thanks for the tip, i was pretty sure it was my master cylinder seal going out-though, the lever never sunk all the way down, as it would with a bad internal seal. The fluid was old and probably has moisture built up, but the grimy pistons is the icing on the cake-thanks.
@GJM866
@GJM866 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2002 HD Road King with low mileage. Had it for a few years and it always had a really spongy front brake lever. It almost went to the grip and was unnerving to say the least. I've heard of this fix before but didn't think it was going to solve the issue. It did! Now the lever is firm like it should be. Thanks so much for posting this video!
@kgchomes
@kgchomes Жыл бұрын
Awsome! 2001 Road King here. I bought the master cylinder rebuild kit, but I'm trying this first! So simple! Glad it fixed your problem
@GJM866
@GJM866 Жыл бұрын
@@kgchomes I had also tried the trick where you zip tie the brake lever overnight, didn't work. Replaced the master cyl (mine was cracked anyway), didn't work.
@dzunghoangnguyen3507
@dzunghoangnguyen3507 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Thank you for this posting that help me to fixed a mushy front brake lever. NOW, it works perfect . My 2002 sportster XL1200S with >80% brake pads, I tried new Dot5, new speed bleeders and rebuilt front master cylinder but did not help...After watch your video it's problem gone_you are my hero. Happy life again, thank you.
@electrabob
@electrabob 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! A friend with an '08 Road King thought his front master cylinder was shot and he was looking to rebuild it. I found this video. He and a bud pulled the calipers and cleaned them as shown. It worked perfectly.
@SmokinZen
@SmokinZen 11 жыл бұрын
Dude just want to say thanks for posting this video saved my butt. For all you guys out there with knowledge get it on video it helps us all.
@andrewschade9098
@andrewschade9098 2 жыл бұрын
Man my 05 ultra classic was dragging and squeaking and mushy brake handle and I did exactly what you said man I appreciate you you solve my problem and save me a bunch of headaches we’re up in the mountains of North Carolina riding and luckily I brought my Dyna with me but I spent about an hour this morning working on the ultra classic and it works like a dream thanks again….. cheers
@ajvlogs3800
@ajvlogs3800 3 жыл бұрын
I came across this video after rebuilding my front master cylinder and still had the same symptoms. The results after doing the procedure were great, no mushy brakes. Thank you
@__tacocat__
@__tacocat__ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Just did this on my 01 Road King and it worked perfectly. The lever was going all the way to the grip and you could hear it creaking. Hosed out the calipers with about a can of Walmart brake parts cleaner for each side. $4 fix for something that was bothering me for a while
@kgchomes
@kgchomes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a simple fix! I think I have almost the exact same bike as you too! Green too! I'm gonna try this before rebuilding the master cylinder! Just when you think you've done everything before, you learn a shortcut! Thanks! Thanks to your daughter too, repairing things together is really a great bonding tool! We need more kids who understand mechanical technology.
@MrWillemilze
@MrWillemilze 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Half an hour later and the brake lever on my 2005 Electra Glide is back to normal. You are the man.
@tracymiller1884
@tracymiller1884 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem with my 2000 Road King. The brake lever goes all the way to the grip. I knew I could get in you tube and find a guy that put a helpful video on. I’ll look at it tomorrow, thanks for the video! 👍
@LuckyPluckers
@LuckyPluckers 6 жыл бұрын
I was very skeptical of this tactic, but I already tried gravity bleeding, traditional pump bleeding and using a vacuum bleeder with no luck. I took off the right caliper and no change, then I did the left side and tested after and I had brakes for the first time on my 03 FLH. I carefully pried the pads apart and they are still mint. I used my widest screwdriver first and used the metal on the pads to get initial separation, then gently used 2 screwdrivers of increasing sizes until they were wide enough to fit over the rotor. Good video AZshooterman! Thanks.
@xskipro
@xskipro 11 жыл бұрын
I was skeptical about how well this would work. Result was great and it was really easy. Didn't even need a helper to pull the brake lever! Thanks for the great Video!
@eb1941
@eb1941 6 жыл бұрын
I just did this on my 2005 HD-Deluxe. Worked great! Lever is tight to pull and play has been removed. Thanks for posting.
@spadaroj
@spadaroj 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Worked like a charm. I changed the brake fluid and bled the system four times and still had a mushy front brake. Thanks to your video brakes are like new. I used simply green tooth brush and compressor.
@rubenperez3838
@rubenperez3838 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for posting this video, I had the same problem and after watching your video I did what you suggested and it fixed my problem. It was and easy and simple fix to an annoying problem and unsafe problem.
@96dodgeram
@96dodgeram 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much , repaired my 01 FLHTC doing this procedure ... works like new now .
@mikeholbrook8639
@mikeholbrook8639 7 жыл бұрын
I had play in the brake lever. Just sprayed brake cleaner into the caliper while it was still on the bike. Pulled the lever and released 100 times. Now it moves about 1/16 of an inch when depressed.
@evldvl1
@evldvl1 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fiona, good job mate!! Have the rest of the day off.
@boglover3910
@boglover3910 7 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful...thank you for posting the best how to video for this issue...my 04 ultra classic front brakes are working like new now
@dennisgage8794
@dennisgage8794 9 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue, did the work and completely fixed. The job took about 30 min, thanks.
@jorgearce6263
@jorgearce6263 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for taking the time to do it. I currently have this issue on my 2000 RKC, hope to get this done over the weekend. I am not replacing pads yet because my bike only has 7800 miles, but I would caution against using a screwdriver or anything metal to pry the pads open if they are going to be re used. I plan on wedging a wood shim or removing/re installing the pads. Thanks again and ride safe!!!
@mikemiller8249
@mikemiller8249 3 жыл бұрын
Two nights bleeding my brakes didn’t fix the problem. I wish I’d seen this two days ago! Thanks!!
@stevenpaydon7175
@stevenpaydon7175 8 жыл бұрын
Good video. Straight to the point and very helpful. This is going to save me some money.
@kennethireland9656
@kennethireland9656 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was thinking I was going to have to rebuild the cylinders. Did this trick (didn't have the luxury of a great assistant like Theona) and it fixed the issue. Less than 30 mins
@jimnasium3979
@jimnasium3979 3 жыл бұрын
My brakes were mush...so I tried this out. Flew over the bars and landed in the next town!
@Whitetruedat2
@Whitetruedat2 9 жыл бұрын
Worked amazingly! Thanks! 2001 road king
@chuckmetcalf9918
@chuckmetcalf9918 8 жыл бұрын
this worked great!!!! thanks for the helpful and we'll explained video sir. 2004 electra classic. my gratitude to you.
@btownsend2332
@btownsend2332 10 жыл бұрын
You saved me some serious time and money, big thanks man!
@joshuaramos9676
@joshuaramos9676 Жыл бұрын
Gonna try this tomorrow I figured it was this so hopefully this works . I currently have barely if any brake pressure to the point were I’m pulling in the throttle.
@mysticapprentice
@mysticapprentice 7 жыл бұрын
This worked for me too, thank you for sharing. Sometimes (as was the case for me) it might be worth checking for corrosion or dirt on the two pins that hold the brake pads in the calipers: mine were pretty bad and the pads themselves were not moving properly, adding to the problem.
@jonmir6215
@jonmir6215 4 жыл бұрын
Dude thanks a million I thought it was my master brake cylinder but saw your video today because I almost died and my brakes work now that's alot once again
@mattwarrensocal
@mattwarrensocal 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent - thank you! Fast, easy and did the trick.
@tomgiordano500
@tomgiordano500 9 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same problem on my 2001 Harley Heritage Softail. I purchased the bike last summer, and it had this problem. It has not gotten any worse, the pads look very good, pumping the brake doesn't have any effect on the feel. I came across this video and I can't wait to try it. I also can't help but be a little skeptical however; being an auto mechanic, the power of hydraulic fluid should far outpower some grease and grime. Regardless, the first chance I get, I will give this a try. I will report back on my results. Be Safe!
@Elkins24
@Elkins24 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, this helped me with a problem I encountered after changing my brake fluid.
@michor10
@michor10 7 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thank you!
@joetaylor9583
@joetaylor9583 3 жыл бұрын
Worked like a charm. Glad I started here before tearing into things. A good cleaning and I'm back in business. The pads were sticking really bad. Seems like you need to rear wheel off to do the same job on the rear. I guess for now, I'll spray a bunch of brake clean in there and get some gunk out at least.
@giunick99
@giunick99 7 жыл бұрын
Worked perfect on my 2033 RK. Thank you for the help.
@giunick99
@giunick99 7 жыл бұрын
I meant 2003 RK. Sorry
@NevadaJack
@NevadaJack 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I've taken the bike in several times and they would just bleed the system, but it never felt right and the brakes would go away after a couple weeks. Today, I did this procedure, and the brakes feel like they did when the bike was new. Easy fix.
@DSNYSANMAN
@DSNYSANMAN 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, Thanks a million buddy, took me about 30 minutes to fix my mushy brake feel. AAA+++
@paulyong4138
@paulyong4138 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing bro! I really appreciate it
@gautemap
@gautemap 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, didn’t think it would, but this sure worked! Thanks🙌🙌
@callofgeorge
@callofgeorge 5 жыл бұрын
wow.. guess I'm trying this when i get home.. didn't think that gunk would stop hydraulic brakes.. the 09 Aprilia RSVR I'm working on is having this issue after reverse bleeding and standard brake bleed.. thanks for the video.
@stevemichigan541
@stevemichigan541 9 жыл бұрын
thanks just bought 2005 flthpi, pump them at stop to get them to stop. I use the front brake 90 percent of the time, not good having to pump twice , going to do this . lol, long one go's on top. I will remember that.. also I work alone so I will tie or bungee the handle in after I get the caliper off to keep it compressed so I can clean it.. great vid, , PS bled the brakes, nothing, same. cant wait to try this,
@mpierson4
@mpierson4 8 жыл бұрын
Worked great. Thanks!!
@travismartin1424
@travismartin1424 11 жыл бұрын
thx to this video i was able to change the brakes on my 02 road king, teres no vids on changing pads but this basically showed me how thx man.
@shortpipe644
@shortpipe644 11 жыл бұрын
thank you you are right on ...all the peaple that have a sportster with dual brakes with this problem this will fix your brakes back to perfect... those who said you will have to live with it are dead wrong .... this will cure it it did mine thank you again steve
@danielcombs4269
@danielcombs4269 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to rebuild or replace my mater cylinder when I saw a post on a HD forum, and then fount this video. I had already bled the front brakes twice, and it made no difference. I removed each caliper, pushed the pads to the inside, and wedged a small chisel between the back of the outside pad and the body of the caliper and pumped the lever until the outside pistons pushed out. Cleaned the pistons as shown, then pushed the pads to the outside and repeated the process on the inside pistons. The difference in the lever is significant, the brakes operate like new ! Thanks for taking the time to make this video ! 2003 Electa Glide Ultra Classic w/28K.
@roadtaco3924
@roadtaco3924 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. 05 RK now breaking great be safe.
@fagundes6666
@fagundes6666 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! Works great!
@shaggy1252
@shaggy1252 11 жыл бұрын
wish i would of seen this before i bought a new master cylinder dam dude u rock thanks for the input keep the rubber side down
@mtbrural6307
@mtbrural6307 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks good advice and helped me out. Thanks 👍👍
@DPaz-zb8td
@DPaz-zb8td 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the post.. worked like a charm! Aloha!
@superplumber5
@superplumber5 3 жыл бұрын
I owe you a beer my man.....cost me $3 can of brake cleaner!!!!
@almartinez3415
@almartinez3415 2 жыл бұрын
That was a perfectly explained video thank you very much work perfect for me
@luisking1977
@luisking1977 5 жыл бұрын
Best advise worked perfectly
@noahholm15
@noahholm15 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks that helped me out a lot!!
@newfiebob56
@newfiebob56 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks , worked like a charm .
@crownryl01
@crownryl01 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks man my brothers Dyna has mushy brakes and we tried bleeding them with no change.He is coming out here in two days so we can ride up to Sturgis and we will try this.I'll let you know if it works.Oh and good job Fiona!
@jimstoops8913
@jimstoops8913 9 жыл бұрын
Good video, tried it myself, (used denatured alcohol).
@marlinbike
@marlinbike 8 жыл бұрын
you're a life saver
@nazdak691
@nazdak691 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir . You just saved us a lot of cash .
@BossHossZZ4
@BossHossZZ4 11 жыл бұрын
I also took the pads out. Easier access to the pistons. The pads come out pretty easy, two small bolts to back out on my '03 FLHT.
@wintermetalhd
@wintermetalhd 12 жыл бұрын
it definitely will not. this guy's right on, you should clean your pistons every time you change the pads. good on you azshooterman for sharing this kinda stuff. more people need to be educated on how to take maintain their own stuff.
@brianscurlockbs
@brianscurlockbs 8 жыл бұрын
right on bro YOU DA MAN!!
@Triumph1153
@Triumph1153 Жыл бұрын
worked like a charm. wow
@awoodman9016
@awoodman9016 7 жыл бұрын
open the bleeder valve they can be pushed open with your fingers then the valve closed
@2003Harleyguy
@2003Harleyguy 6 жыл бұрын
Good job, all the neigh sayers are wrong. Nothing you did would hurt the pads or bike. I do it the same way & have for years.
@remaillet
@remaillet 11 жыл бұрын
Great video AZ, I had recently noticed the exact symptoms you described in your video, I was ready to replace my brake pads but after cleaning out pistons, brakes are working great with no more slop in the lever & no swishing sound. Thx for posting;
@83adub
@83adub 8 жыл бұрын
does this fix apply to sportbikes as well? I have the same issue. smooshy lever, full reservoir, no leaks.
@MrDantastic423
@MrDantastic423 4 жыл бұрын
Will this also work on my abs? I’m having the same problem I just don’t know if it would change anything
@BossHossZZ4
@BossHossZZ4 11 жыл бұрын
This seems like it worked for me. Too much snow on ground to test. Lever is firm after sitting for 2 days. I used an old tooth brush and brake cleaner to clean up the pistons. Be sure cap is on master cylinder when pushing pistons back in. If not it makes a mess!
@mario121564
@mario121564 5 жыл бұрын
I would have used a plastic shim to spread the pads. At least if there were a chance if anything getting broken it would be the shims not the piston o rings. Further a leave the shims in a squeeze the brake to make they are set Before putting on. Makes it a little easier.
@GHHOSTZ300
@GHHOSTZ300 7 жыл бұрын
Please help what can I do wen the pads won't close or open at all wen i pull the brake lever on a pit bike
@wb4514
@wb4514 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you remove the master cylinder cover when you push the pistons back in ?
@LyonhartZ2
@LyonhartZ2 11 жыл бұрын
I wish I saw this video before I took them apart (I spent all Saturday taking both calipers apart and rmoving the pads and using a Brush and Brake cleaner and pumping the hand lever and opening the bleeder screws!! (I made a HUGE mess because I unscrewd the Master Cylinder and forced the pistons back in. All I had to do was emove and spray and have a buddy pump the brakes (in 12 minutes like AZShootermann!!)
@manuelrys60
@manuelrys60 5 жыл бұрын
Xlnt tutorial will do that on my bike
@LyonhartZ2
@LyonhartZ2 11 жыл бұрын
take a mighty vac (its a hand-operated pump that has a rubber piece that slips on to the bleeder screw on each caliper (cars and Motorcycles) pump it and it will creat a vaccuum) as soon as you open the screw it will "suck" air and brake fluid, thus removing any trapped air. Repeat for each caliper. Open master cylinder cover with phillips screw and top off!!
@genlacroix
@genlacroix 12 жыл бұрын
My brakes are great until i start riding , they then get mushy . I pump them 2 o3 times . they then get hard. Does anyone have a clue what could cause this and how to repair
@Soaringeagle3942
@Soaringeagle3942 12 жыл бұрын
I was told that brake cleaner would ruin the seals on the calipers.
@wind-inmy-face7949
@wind-inmy-face7949 8 жыл бұрын
Will this fix a loose brake lever with too much play in it that causes the brake light to stay on?
@kevinjones1942
@kevinjones1942 8 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue! It won't retract all the way out and is a real nuisance. Did you ever find a way to fix that problem?
@LoBeau53
@LoBeau53 7 жыл бұрын
Not likely. you need to build up the contact area on the lever that holds the switch open. two part epoxy will work but tig welding buildup is the best solution. had the same problem on my 98 Dyna.
@mukunda3001
@mukunda3001 7 жыл бұрын
if piston not moving back then vaccume is trapped? air causes mushy feeling. if it works it is OK. it does not make sense why this causes mushy break.
@larspreinfalk4905
@larspreinfalk4905 6 жыл бұрын
Mahadev oo
@LyonhartZ2
@LyonhartZ2 11 жыл бұрын
Can't we just Blast it with compressed air, followed by copius amounts of Brake Cleaner followed buy a Blast of Water hose (all while the brakes are still on the bike??) You can probably due this from the bottom and around the calipers??
@gspiggity
@gspiggity 7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't put brake cleaner on the pads, it will destroy the pad material, recommend taking them out first
@neva4self
@neva4self 10 жыл бұрын
You should never use brake cleaner to clean a caliper in this fashion. The brake cleaner will eventually destroy the rubber seals around the pistons. If you must do this procedure, use Simple Green and an old soft bristle tooth brush or a FOAM tipped qtip and clean the outer part of the pistons after you push them out.
@mukunda3001
@mukunda3001 7 жыл бұрын
Brake cleaner damages dust seals and o rings on pistons. Use isopropyl alcohol only. Break cleaner should be used on only pads and discs.
@BadScorpio
@BadScorpio 7 жыл бұрын
Mahadev how would that work? Toothbrush and alcohol? Or just pour?
@mukunda3001
@mukunda3001 7 жыл бұрын
I pushed pistons out by appying break after removing caliper. cleaned with toothbrush and break fluid and isopropyl alcohol. Follow service manual precautions, do not put fingers in front of pistons while pushing them out, put screw driver. I inserted pistons back. I removed o rings, dust seals and cleaned them in isopropyl alcohol and break fluid. Apply break fluid on pistons and orings dust seals and insert them back. caliper glide pins need grease of silicone. pad holder bolts need any grease. Silicone grease is used to prevent damage to caliper glide pin rubber boots.
@mukunda3001
@mukunda3001 7 жыл бұрын
do not scratch pistons. they are supposed to be very smooth where they slide on EPDM rubber o rings. If not fluid can escape.
@mukunda3001
@mukunda3001 7 жыл бұрын
see MC caliper rebuild videos on youtube.
@Kid574
@Kid574 9 жыл бұрын
6:18 doesn't that mess up the pads ?
@-MrRichBiker1967
@-MrRichBiker1967 8 жыл бұрын
+Kid574 Now, how would this procedure ruin the pads?? do tell!!
@Kid574
@Kid574 8 жыл бұрын
+- MrRIchBiker I don't know, which is exactly why i was asking
@franrayjr
@franrayjr 4 жыл бұрын
Digging at the pads with a screwdriver maybe ?
@wolffeylps5881
@wolffeylps5881 10 жыл бұрын
Problem solved! Thanks!
@MannyMetFan
@MannyMetFan 6 жыл бұрын
Hey. Can i get a good look at your pinup tattoo
@Phantom7583
@Phantom7583 4 жыл бұрын
A++++++
@AmrZeek
@AmrZeek 6 жыл бұрын
that is good but most likely you have destroyed your pads :)
@levonmonte2451
@levonmonte2451 7 жыл бұрын
lube the pistons! that's why they stuck in the first place! SMH
@jamesd5888
@jamesd5888 4 жыл бұрын
Dam man...buy a socket set! I left the video seeing you use a wrench as it was pure waist of my time. Like watching paint dry.
@scottingersoll5674
@scottingersoll5674 5 жыл бұрын
How did you take a video of taking off a caliper, spraying it out, and putting it back on and make it more that ten minutes? Come on man.
@bigwu100
@bigwu100 2 жыл бұрын
Power tools would be faster
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