FIX Brown & Sharpe Tach TIPS # 619 tubalcain mrpete

[@pzro6869]

You know I get more out of your videos than I expect; just watching the little things you do. The little button magnet on the screwdriver. Beautiful.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@andyZ3500s]

Yes some people have a gift of teaching. Like Tubalcain said nobody's gonna make one of these. Yet we come away with so much more.

[@xenonram]

Thought I was watching Louis Rossmann for a moment there.

[@kkarllwt]

About 1974, when working on the carburetor of my 1967 ford PU, I dropped a small part onto the street. I found it by cleaning my shopvac and vacuuming the street under the truck.

[@bwyseymail]

What did Mr. Pete say about order of operation? I found it by vacuuming the street under the truck and cleaning my shopvac. There fixed it for you.

[@oooooooooorly]

@@bwyseymail I think you've got it wrong, and he had it right. It's crucial to clean out the shopvac before such an operation, or the part'll get lost in whatever was in there to begin with.

[@MrPatdeeee]

ONLY our "MR Pete" can do what was done in this video AND talk while he's do-un it too. And the BEST part is his "humor". What a "gift" he is. May Jesus continue to bless this instructor of instructors! Thank you Lyle.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@flintstoneengineering]

A brief tour of the Belsaw would be appreciated. Strategic use of magnets was a good tip. Many thanks.

[@mikenixon9164]

Lyle your mellowing out you haven't had a good rant in a long time lol. Good video as always.

[@lathammarx1458]

That was nice to see how you cut down round stock to make the brake shoe, great video, thanks Tubalcain.

[@SFCRambo60]

Kinda wish we were neighbors so we could play. I was a jack of all trades master on none. 32 years at Cat as a machinist. From mills for links to bearing blocks to steering yolks, head mills for 6 and a quarter heads, 3208 head line, they used me as a salvage man to fix the screw up parts. CNC machines. I taught myself to weld from gas to stick to wire. Do a pretty good job. Taught my son's ( 3). Dad started me off at 11 years old rebuilding Motorcycle transmissions. Enjoy your post, keep it up.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@JourneymanRandy]

I went and bought my first impact sockets the day I did the brake job on my old truck. It was summer but many times I layed on the ground to repair my car in -30. That's how we learned. Thanks

[@Fatamus]

Been there done that but can't do that any more. I drove across Anchorage on my motorcycle, O' about 300 years ago, to grease my dad's dump truck that was parked in 3 feet of swamp. Might as well have been -30* that day because the ride home chills me to the bone even today when I think about it.

[@trits4227]

Well done Sir, I think I have seen probably every video you ave done for u-tube and am still massively entertained by you and the content !!!. What would we do without TUBALCAIN!! Kindest Regards to you and family, Mike from Cornwall ,UK

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much, I am glad you like my channel

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Nice repair! Not only entertaining, educational to all who are interested in mechanical things

[@NBCRGraphicDesign]

Mr Brown & Mr Sharpe are the real heroes in this video. Too bad there is not a documentary that covers the rise and fall of that firm. I understand that they started out not as tool makers, but as contract machinists for firms like Wilcox & Gibbs, a sewing machine manufacturer. Anywho... nice to see some micro-machining in this video.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, I read the book. Very interesting story. Very sad how it ended

[@componenx]

Reminds me- I sold a B&S scale to one of your neighbors (RD)about a month ago; I almost fell out of my chair when I saw the address because I recognized the street/town. Thanks as always for your content!

[@mrpete222]

👍Yes, he is a friend of mine

[@timothydaniel4511]

Excellent instructions on how to make small parts! Thanks for another great, easy to understand video. We beginners out here in radio/tv land appreciate your clear and well thought out videos. You are a fantastic resource for those of us starting out in mill and lathe operation.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much. I cannot understand why no one is watching this video, I put a lot of time into it

[@blfstk1]

Replacing a clutch in a 66 Chevelle SS in 20F. I know what you mean. Told my wife, when we were looking for a house to buy, "It may have a bedroom but it has to have a 2 car garage." I'm 74. I don't have too much patience anymore either. I have the Starrett edition of this speed counter. Still works. Enjoyed the vid...as always.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@blfstk1]

@@mrpete222 Be well. I always enjoy your stuff. I've even done some of it. Sure would love to have a Bridgeport.

[@mhoover]

"You got no patience"...AMEN BROTHER!

[@jmiddlefinger]

Mr. Pete, once again thank you very much making sure that guys like me can catch the machining bug AND act on it!

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@roylucas1027]

Best 19 minutes that I've spent today.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@andyZ3500s]

I can remember trying to get the springs on with a flat screwdriver. Then you had the shoe hold down with the retainer that I'd try to push on and turn with my fingers. What a surprise when I found out that there was a three dollar tool for the retainer. Then a older friend gave me a proper return spring tool. All part of the life long learning curve.

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

I enjoyed the video and the conversation. I remember doing brake jobs using a screwdriver to put the springs back on and like you I did not have any brake spring pliers. Now that I think about it I still don't.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@rolfcasparius6972]

Nostalgia! It's always nice to look back to simpler times... Gives the mind a break from all of today's insanity! Thanks for the break, I had a coffee...

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@stevewilliams587]

Nostalgia is not what it used to be 🤣🤣🤣

[@tomeyssen9674]

Thank you Mr. Pete. That was a very nice and informative video. You know.....I havent even thought of putting the magnet on the screw driver, just simple. Your hands were steady as a rock on such a small item. I'm sorry to hear about Jan and I sympathize with you. I have an older brother also who I love very much. Thank you for being Mr. Pete. -Tom

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@charlescompton4495]

My Dad had a 1952 Buick but I'm not sure of the body style. Straight 8 engine and I think it had an automatic transmission. He then went to a 54 (?) Dodge with the "Red Ram" hemi V-8 engine which he said never quit burning oil. He traded for a 1956 Plymouth Belvedere (excuse the spelling) convertible with a 277 cubic inch V-8 which lasted him then me for many years. Keep these videos coming; I really enjoy your teaching, Greg.

[@mrpete222]

Dynaflow trans

[@rossstenner4402]

I can sympathyse, my first vehicle was a Morris Minor van, winter, grovelling on the concrete, damp cold; brake springs were difficult but I founs a pair of ground down snipe nose pliers [I didn't know there were special tools either] worked quite well. Happy days.

[@johnquinn3899]

I’ve watched almost all of your videos & learned something from each one. My shop class in 1962 was put on hold until 1987- I’m still learning !! Thank you Mr Pete

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, that was quite a long hold

[@jerrywilson9730]

Your so easy to listen to. I always learn something! I haven't found another youtuber that I can listen to as easy as I can yours. Thanks again.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@RRINTHESHOP]

That is just how I would of made it. Nice job. That was one sad looking saw. Nice to see it fixed correctly. Thanks Lyle.

[@xenonram]

Lol. I was thinking the same thing. To be fair, I've never seen a cutoff saw that didn't run out terribly.

[@MrShobar]

Belsaw also made those great saw sharpening contraptions. I loved watching them sharpen handsaws back when people still owned and used handsaws. These days, I sharpen mine by hand, and it's no fun. New handsaws (when you can find one) are throwaway tools. They cannot be sharpened because the teeth are now induction-hardened. I still have some handsaws that once belonged to my great grandfather, who (among other things) taught industrial arts in the public schools in the 1920's. Great job, as usual. Many thanks.

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. Workmanship at it's best.

[@larrysmall3521]

On my first brake job after fighting the springs for about 30 minutes, I found a piece or 1/16 nylon cord. Looped it around the hook in the spring and then I was able to pull the spring into position and snap it into place. That was my goto method for years until disk breaks became common. Now we have Harbor Freight for those odd occasional use tools.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@gregfeneis609]

A very nice repair 👌. I was in my late teens when I went to work at a service station and learned there were special tools for changing brake shoes. I had already done a few drum brake jobs by then and sure was impressed with the ease of the job with the right tools 😉 After college, I did a lot of work with manufacturing machinery that used lots of extension springs and I carried an automotive brake spring pliers in my tool kit for many years. You should show one on a this & that, or a what is it video. I'll send you mine if you don't have one.

[@mrpete222]

I do have several that I guess I should show them. But I think it’s a pretty common tool that most people will know

[@richardbradley961]

THANK YOU MR PEET, REGARDS RICHARD. IN MY TEENS WAS DEOING A WATER PUMP ON A CAR, COOULD NOT GET THE PUMP OFF, IT WAS FROSEN TO THE BLOCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dragonrider93]

Love to watch a man of your talent working out side of the box. Great idea on how to compress the spring on those shoes with what you had on hand !

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

I thought was clever.. I'm sure in the factory they had some hardened too steel widget for the job, ...Good one time in the field solution👍

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

Love it: I actually counting on losing at least one." Thanks for a neat video, Mr Pete! I think that Buick is neat. My first car was a 54 Pontiac 2 door straight 8. It had plenty of torque!

[@mrpete222]

My straight eight Sure ran smooth.

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

@@mrpete222 They were great engines. Do you ever watch Coldwar Motors? They work on lots of old cars, even had a contest between the members of the group to be the first to return a straight 8 engine to operating condition.

[@xenonram]

@@mrpete222 The hood on that thing must have been really long. A straight 6 is pretty long, so I can imagine 2 more cylinders.

[@user-neo71665]

@@xenonram I'm 6'2 and can lay on the hood of my 50 buick. The coolest thing about them is the way the hood opens. You can unlatch either side and tilt it up to get to that side, left or right. If you got about 3 buddies 2 can pop each side inside the car on it's respective side right under the dash and you with the other one can lift the hood off without unbolting anything. Yes it takes at least 2 people to pick the hood up, the thing weighs a ton.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Great work on such a tiny part Mr. Pete! I'd have lost at least the equivalent number to what I made. I can so relate to your brake job story, always did my brakes with screwdrivers and pliers. Finally go to use a pair of brake spring pliers in auto shop and I just had to have a pair after that. Got a pair and still use them to this day. An excellent example of the proper tool for the job.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@bigmikeh5827]

Mr Pete. Knocked myself out cold using a pair of channel locks to put the front brake spring on my 65 impala when I was about 15. I teach my students how to make tools to get the job done. Thanks for the vid.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@rickhand8228]

You are correct that I will likely never make a brake shoe like that but I have made several woodruff keys by hand with a hacksaw and a file. Some of them were quite small but of course not nearly as small as your brake shoe. I couldn't hope to duplicate the precision you demonstrated but I did manage to get farm machinery operating again. I am fortunate enough to have a lathe and milling machine now that I don't do that work anymore. Isn't life like that? Thanks for another great video!

[@mrpete222]

Yes, life is like that

[@patjohnson3100]

Your videos are very informative and complete. Wish I had your knowledge and skill, and that you had been my shop instructor.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@jamesstanlake4064]

Nice project. It may not be as essential in todays world but important how things work.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@rogerscottcathey]

I think that's a gorgeous little tool. And it clicks!

[@steveharvey1876]

Thanks Mr. Pete

[@Blue_4-2]

I found myself tensing up just watching you make that tiny little piece!

[@mrpete222]

Me too

[@bearsrodshop7067]

Mr. Pete you inspire me on every teaching video....Wish we were neighbors, and could learn from you daily, PS,,,Wife wife makes a mean cobbler and coffee is always Hot,,,hehe! I have a 1929 Starrett RPM and priceless to me. Thx for sharing! Bear

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@llapmsp]

Another great video. It looks to me you still have plenty of patients by the time you spend doing the videos and the excellent narration. I also saw you on Aboms video of at the Fly wheelers, hope you had fun.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks, I did

[@mclem4u]

“Always make two because I count on losing one” lol. Better to have and not need, than to need and not have! I have a 1950 Ford Shoebox custom that I repaired the brakes last month and lost the brake spring and searched for for two hours after it shot out on the black driveway. After walking away from it for two hours I found it. Phew!

[@mrpete222]

I wonder how many hours or should I say days of my life I wasted looking for things?

[@ohmbug10]

@@mrpete222 In the mill when we fetched small cheap parts (wire nuts, machine screws) we always took an extra "one for dropping". Saved the company a lot of money in downtime. Thought of it as cheap insurance. 😀

[@bwyseymail]

With something like a break spring just tie a piece of string to it.

[@ruperthartop7202]

Great video Lyle. Perfect solution. Thanks for sharing

[@guillermohernandez3252]

Great job mr Pete, you save me a lot time wend you spend yours ,thanks for your time and awesome teaching Good bless you

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@mc_cpu]

Thanks for the tips and tricks.

[@Daledavispratt]

Such a tedious job! I'm glad it was you doing it and not me. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@PaulSteMarie]

You might already have the right tool for the job! I'm thinking one of those Jacobs wedges for popping off drill chucks might be just the right size. If not, a flat piece of 1/8" stock, maybe 1"x2", with a 1/2" wide notch milled in one end would do. Use the notch to hold the shoes, slide on the hub, and let the tool slip behind the shoes and then out the side.

[@mrpete222]

You had some great ideas, thank you

[@mocarp1]

Not sure why but I enjoy seeing the old pictures. I suppose everybody has them. You often mention your brother Jan but didnt remember you mentioning your sister over the years here. Hope you had a good trip with your family after the Florida swap meet.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@kensherwin4544]

My first car, a worn-out '48 DeSoto, taught me the need for and the value of specialized tools too. It seems that many of us are graduates of that same School of Disappearing Parts.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@mwechtal]

On the other hand, we sometimes have parts left over when assembling something. Be sure to throw these away immediately so that you don't worry about them. 😉

[@infoanorexic]

@@mwechtal that was what the old Prince Albert can was for.

[@mwechtal]

@@infoanorexic sadly, I have coffee cans full!

[@jcknives4162]

I was thinking you would use the digital calipers to hold the shoes in place since it was narrower than the shoes. I never thought about applying a magnet to my screwdriver to help hold screws. Handy!!! And since you showed us how to make a demagnetizer which I keep on my bench and ready, I could demagnetize the driver immediately if I wanted to.

[@mrpete222]

Wow, the calipers would have been a perfect compression tool, I never thought of it. But people would say I was abusing the tool

[@jcknives4162]

mrpete222 yea, I thought of that but those folks are the 1% judgement police. Sadly when a channel becomes somewhat successful, the keepers of self righteous indignation come out of their basement bedroom in their moms house to wield their keyboard and wag their fingers at great men and then retreat. Baaaggghhh!!!

[@xenonram]

@@jcknives4162 You should hear the ones on Keith Rucker's channel. (Poucher and Hannes Miller) Holy s, they just whine about every little thing.

[@markowen7164]

Me too. Back in the oldenyead year's...... But now. It's as clear as mud.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@jerrywallen8327]

Sorry but I got a real big laugh at your expense in your telling of your experience of putting the little speed counter together!! Another very enjoyable video as usual thanks!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@MaturePatriot]

If they lost it inside a shop, it would look like a chip on the floor. Great work. I did all the repairs on my first car, a '64 Olds Cutlass. Would give a lot to have that car today. It was so simple to work on. Life is getting way to complicated.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, are usually sweep the floor before I start a job like that

[@brucetuckey7909]

Good morning MR Pete, Nice brake shoe and assembly. More trouble than it was worth lol.

[@russelallen5342]

I enjoyed the video and the pictures at the end. Thank you.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@yt66228]

I love the stories!

[@sierraspecialtyauto7049]

Fun to watch that, Lyle. I think B&S would have used closed-end springs...maybe Bubba lost the original spring when he lost the other brake shoe.

[@mrpete222]

I bet you are right

[@bfeitell]

Mr. Pete, I would try using a few wraps of wide dental floss or tape. The self adhesion of waxed dental floss could work well here.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@mikem970]

I’m hearing a clicking sound in the video, reminds me when they filmed with a 16 mm cameras! Lol great video!

[@davidstreeter9426]

I still have brake spring pliers, adjusting lever and shoe retaining tools that probably would work on a 1952 Buick. I did usually have a garage to work in, however.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@jimharris4013]

well done, Mr Pete.

[@donmittlestaedt1117]

Thank you Lyle

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Always very interesting thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@ohhpaul7364]

Thanks for the short rant about how long it took you to get the shoes subdued under that brass wire. I could picture exactly what happened as soon as you said it. Thanks, I needed the laugh.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@jolllyroger1]

Long nose forceps ....or wrap with wire then remove once started....yep that's how you got it.....I have made tiny brake shoes for home made mini centrifugal clutch

[@Jimmeh_B]

Ahhhhhh don't be so sure @mrpete222 my friend! Those little shoes look strikingly similar to the little centrifugal clutch shoes that live inside the 2nd and 3rd gears on my RC nitro car. I've often thought about using the springs from the back of windscreen wiper blades or similar to replace the plastic ones you buy at hobby stores. Of course that will mean having to turn up some steel bells to replace the cast aluminium ones that are on it, which will mean replacing the burnt out motor on the lathe... but that's a whole other story :)

[@mrpete222]

One thing leads to another

[@roeng1368]

Reminds me of every gunsmiths shop i have ever been in. There is always a lot of semi-auto shotguns or rimfire rifles in pieces, where the owner has dismantled them for whatever reason, and either cannot reassemble it, or has lost something.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@bcbloc02]

Would love to see you do that brake job proper on that straight 8 Buick today. :-)

[@mrpete222]

Never again

[@kenny5174]

Yep, another good video! I'll have to agree with you on lacking tools in the early years. That's why I have several tool boxes full, and can hardly resist looking at new tools, or old ones, any where I see them! A sickness from brake jobs with pliers!

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@mhoover]

Did you try the calipers to hold the shoes?

[@briantaylor9266]

15:39 Here's something I've never seen before, but it's absolute genius. A neodymium magnet of the shank of a non-magnetic screwdriver so it holds that tiny screw. I'll remember that one for sure. Thanks!

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@gordbaker896]

Nice. Now face off the adapter for the little rotary saw to level it out.

[@minskmade]

greeeeat video. love it.. what camera are you using ...you marcro shots are nice.

[@mrpete222]

An old Sony Handy cam

[@kenramsburg7772]

How would one secure copper faces into an old Danco Danielson Mfg. Co. machinist hammer? In a previous video Mr. Pete used loctite to secure round metal balls on the ends of a handle and was wondering if that would work or is an epoxy better suited?

[@carver3419]

Thank goodness for rare earth magnets.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@markowen7164]

Glad you told me that. I don't have any problems with sleeping. M

[@dannyl2598]

Thanks Mr Pete. I'm trying to imagine what a straight eight looks like under the hood. A man could probably ware out a pair of shoes just changing the plugs in that thing. : )

[@bwyseymail]

Nah, V8s are worse, ya gotta walk around to the other side. lol

[@MrDdaland]

Good Morning Mr Pete!

[@toolbox-gua]

I love your class evry day.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@bwyseymail]

The tool to do the assembly would be a pliers with very thin jaws. Probably half the thickness of the shoes. And with small half rounds in them to keep the shoes aligned.

[@Jim-ie6uf]

Never argue with the teacher!

[@SuperKwame1]

I hope your grandson finds a great value for all your tool collection.

[@stanwooddave9758]

Hopefully the grandson doesn't find the "TRUE VALUE" of the tool collection via a yard / garage sale. Well maybe the cheap Peterson products. Wink, Wink. I didn't say that Mr. Pete. Are you going to believe me, or your lying eye's. LOL.

[@robertmccracken72]

Thank you!!!

[@jodydoakes8754]

Consider me edutained, once again!

[@shrikedecil]

I bet they had a "wrench" made out of shim stock (-ish material) to use as their ring compressor device. A very-thin widget that could 'clamp' the center of both shoes to just the right position, but thin enough to still be holding until the last second as the dial is slipped over them.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, good idea

[@anthonyjames9594]

That old Buick reminds me of Broderick Crawford and Highway Patrol must be showing my age

[@mrpete222]

He usually drove a 56 Buick

[@1995jug]

I liked the video you could have been a watch maker working on parts that small.

[@infoanorexic]

Same technique if you need to make an odd sized half-moon key. Trying to nibble down another to work can get painful.

[@tlum4081]

The women (probably) assembling the friction shoes probably had an assembly jig(s) to hold them and the spring together as it is inserted into the rotating dial part. At least, that's what I would have designed before handing it over to assembly production.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, I am sure you are right

[@geraldguyette470]

I bet ya had a lotta fun in that old car, even though it gave you a bloody lip ! Old things are cool and fun to work on. Have you noticed your brake shoes are getting smaller? oh well Have a good one.

[@mrpete222]

You can’t even begin to imagine the fun I had in that car.

[@geraldguyette470]

@@mrpete222 I had a 72 nova 4 door , lots of adventures !

[@RichieCat4223]

Mr Pete I have an question that's not related to this video and maybe you can help. When viewing a KZbin video at times I get a black screen for maybe 10 seconds that says "An error has occurred" then the video plays. Not all videos I look at have this message. Yours always has this message. Would you know if this is a fault on KZbins behalf ? Thank you.

[@robertwatsonbath]

Happens to me too - but on almost every YT video, not just Mr Pete's. Think this is a wider problem - have seen others reporting similar issues on twitter and elsewhere.

[@RichieCat4223]

@@robertwatsonbath Thanks, any research I've done to try to correct this has come up zero. Tried contacting Google/KZbin and that was a failure also.

[@robertwatsonbath]

@@RichieCat4223 Likewise. I've yet not checked but wondering if could be related to my using Ghostery as an ad-blocker?

[@RichieCat4223]

@@robertwatsonbath I have Ad Blocker Plus and thought the same thing. Turned it off and nothing really changed. The black screen reminded me of an ad running before the video and Ad Blocker was doing its job.

[@dalemcinnes1834]

I don't ever have this with any You tube videos. Dale in Canada

[@joeheilm]

Nice fix! I enjoy the irrelevant stories. Cheers

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@Fatamus]

WoooHooo! I made it I was 167 thumbs up.

[@markowen7164]

Well Mr Peat. I'm guna do something. M

[@bentontool]

Re-assembly... a tough job which is why it was lost in the first place...

[@markowen7164]

Maybe if I get the wining lottery ticket...

[@jasonbell5905]

How old you estimate that slitting saw is? 😂. It does the job!!!

[@lloyd4768]

Lol. I always had bandaids around before I started a brake job...