Fix or Flop? Keen huge change to their #1 boot - Targhee IV

[@RoseAnvil]

Pick up a new Keen Targhee IV boot here - bit.ly/4cL6Dju and test it out for yourself

[@novice5356]

I just want companies to make non water proof versions of their shoes. It makes them far more enjoyable in hot weather environments.

[@4Bobay]

Exactly!

[@breakfasteatre]

manufacturers can say all the want about breathability, but if the outside air is humid, there is no moisture defusing through the waterproof membrane so it stays in the boot. diffusion gradient

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Exactly. Either it's breathing or it's water-proofing. It's not doing both.

[@NDB469]

I’ve been wearing Jim Green Razorbacks, they have a wide toe box, and they’re pretty damn comfortable. No stinky liner, and resist water really well. South African made, leather lined, I’m impressed with them, their Baobob boot is awesome too.

[@acftmxman]

I have to admit I’m mixed when it comes to Keen. Six years ago I bought two pairs of their work boots and they are going strong today. Five years ago I bought another two pairs and those didn’t make it 9 months. The mid soles blew out and the boot was delaminating. I had to toss them. I haven’t bought Keen since. The first pair were Keen Pittsburgh’s and the second pair was Keen Springfield’s.

[@hechetonchieres]

I got myself a pair of Keen workboots, I can't remember the name but they were a moc toe style with a wedge sole. The leather is either really weak, or I'm hard on boots (I did like to kick stuff in the factory, tbh) because around the toe especially it's getting gouged and scratched. They are comfortable for a work boot, but not very durable, unless you're like the supervisor I'd guess, and just standing around.

[@pepemagason6451]

Same. First pair ten years ago lasted 6 years. I haven't had a pair go 1.5 years since that first pair. I tried twice more and have been disappointed. They lost my business.

[@acftmxman]

@@pepemagason6451 my first pair were the Pittsburgh’s and they are still going. The Springfield’s were the ones that went bad.

[@kart182]

@@hechetonchieresno boot will withstand constant kicking. Apply some tuff toe on your boots

[@blauer2551]

They lost me when the bottom of the sole delaminated in the center but the edges held. It was a big bubble under my foot, very annoying. The purchase was an experiment, so just back to buying better all leather quality work boots.

[@TheSara200424]

My keen work boots are almost 3years old and still in great shape other then replacement insoles these are by far the most comfortable boots I own, after buying countless boots after 19years I'm going with keens

[@Spitts]

Best boots I've ever had by a long shot are the Michelin Hydro Edge boots. My job is walking on pavement for 8 hours a day and every other boot I've tried I get about 4 months ( I've tried a ton of boots over 20 years) but the Michelin last 2 or more years. I was told they use the same rubber as car tires which makes sense for anyone spending the day on pavement or cement. Once you break them in they are the most comfortable boots I've owned. There are some down sides though. The break in period can very long with stiff rubber so I'll wear them around the house a few weekends before I switch out my old boots. The only other downside is the stitching isn't always the best. Sometimes in the first few months (barely broken in by then) the stitching will start to fail but I throw some superglue in and get a few more years out of them.

[@Aglassact77]

Keens are better!

[@Spitts]

@@Aglassact77 I've owned about 10 different pairs of Keen's and the last about 4-6 months. I walk about 15 miles a day on pavement so the soles get shredded really quick. For what I do you can't get any better than a boot made from the same stuff as car tires. I mean they've spent decades and millions of dollars to come up with a compound that will hold up on pavement. What works for me and my specific job probly won't work for you but that's ok

[@evangravitz4029]

I've owned a pair of these for a couple of months now. I really like them! They are not for heavy hiking, and not for very wet and muddy environments. That said, on a light hike, on a dry day, they are excellent, low-maintenance boots with no break-in!

[@thedetaildude8243]

Been wearing keens for over 10 years as a professional detailer I can confirm they are one of the best waterproof shoes I've ever owned and one of the best waterproof shoes on the market I've tried several other big brands that were nowhere near as WP as keen you're losing your mind if you think they aren't great on rainy days your comments is wildly wrong

[@evangravitz4029]

@thedetaildude8243 For hiking, I disagree. The gusset on the Targhee IV stops where the high-top part of the boot begins. So, they are waterproof if you don't step in anything too deep. I love my Targhee IVs so much that I am wearing them right now. I also own and wear Vasque Sundowners, which are fully gusseted. I logged over 1,000 miles hiking in my first pair of Sundowners, and am very aware that, for wet conditions, they are a far superior boot. Before Elon Musk bought Twitter, I would post my hikes there. I still log my hikes, but I have since deleted my Twitter account. If you are okay with waterproof below the ankle, the Targhee IVs are great. For the majority of what I have been doing recently, they suit my needs. If I need something more serious, I put on my Sundowners.

[@SamBrown-k1o]

My opinion is the targhee 3 was a huge downgrade over the targhee 2 the 4 might be better that the 3 but its still a far cry from the 2.

[@blondebeard6335]

Bought a pair of keens last year and returned them. Super shoddily put together, started falling apart immediately.

[@KillSwitchNY]

I discovered keen by accident a couple years ago. Not for hiking but for safety toe work boots. I got a pair of their Philadelphia's and loved them so much i bought 3 more pairs in varying colors 6 and 8". The wide asymetrical carbon fiber toe box is a must for all day comfort. Plus their midsoles are very soft compared to most others. The only thing i can complain about is the outsole grts chewed up pretty easily but that too is a softer rubber than normal as well. I can see why people wouldn't trust them though after having the soles blow apart.

[@hvega8199]

I tried 2 of the older pairs and the toe box/cap always fail. I’ll come back and try these new ones. Strike 3 and I’m out of here ✌🏾

[@fhistleb]

So far with mine the toe cap is still holding strong. This is after two months of me trying to beat the hell out of these shoes.

[@quinreimer5906]

You should do a boots for wildland firefighting series

[@libertarian1637]

Used to like Keen but their quality lately has made me write them off as even a possibility going forward. I’ve had 2 separate pairs now have the soles come right off; that’s unacceptable.

[@dashcamcalifornia5003]

my problem with Keen is their non standard sizes. went thru 4 pair and had to keep going smaller. If your shoe is off by that many sizes, you should adjust the sizing.

[@travelfeet]

I wore Keen boots for a good 15 years. Great fit on my foot, always comfortable, durable with one fault. Every pair wore through the sole at the heel before any other part of the boot (sandals too) was even close to worn out. I moved to stitchdown and welted footwear as a result. Here's hoping the soles are more durable with at least equal performance, compared to the previous generation.

[@RPC08]

Very interested in trying these! I love my current Saloman X Ultra 4 mids, please add them to the cut list!

[@fidel-3470]

I bought some Targhee II's in 2016, they were my default hiking boots and weekend ware for a long time. I'd say I'd wear them pretty hard for anything related to farm work or landscaping too. They're on their last leg here in 2024 with the bottom of the shoe being the only piece that's really worn out and just not having traction anymore. I could probably squeeze one or two more heavy hiking seasons out of them. I got a set of Targhee IV for my birthday from my GF (love this girl). I'll say they FEEL on the foot very different, like there's a substantially more arch support, and it's taken me a little while to get used to and maybe I just need to break them in. I'm still everyday'ing my old Targhee II's cause I'm keeping the new ones cleaner. Though I was disappointed when I first put them on, they just didn't have the same feel as other Keens. Style wise, the Targhee IV look so much better. I got the Bison/Black and it is a classy looking boot that can mix well in a casual or semi-professional space. I live in Portland and have been a vendor to Keen. They're definitely a really good company with super smart people. There's some other "shoe manufacturers" around this neck of the woods that are more like fashion companies, they are full of asshole and idiots failing to success and have very toxic cultures.

[@snowcrash512]

I wonder if the new design is anymore resistant to intrusion by pointy rocks. I wore Targhee 3s on the AT is Pennsylvania and I could feel every sharp pointed rock under my forefoot because they are relatively thin and flexible there, no rock plates or anything to protect.

[@yehtan]

What is the toughest application for a grippy elastic material you can think of? In my opinion that will be the car tire. Somehow, with all the advancements in material science, tires are still made using rubber. Changing to TPU is simply a cost cutting measure to fatten their wallet. Shame.

[@darynanderson3103]

Good review. Love your channel. I tried so hard to like Keen hiking boots but they failed me to many times. I learned when you buy a pair to also buy a tube of Shoe Goo. The first pair many years ago was great. Since then I've had several pairs of their hiking boots, including the Targhee's, and came away very disappointed because the soles on all of them literally came apart with very little wear making them useless. I switched to Merrel Moab's and haven't looked back. I love the comfort of the Newport sandals which I've also had several pairs and continue to wear. I've had better luck with them, but one pair still fell apart.

[@zac_in_ak]

I work at a retailer that sells these. Appreciate the info and cut up.

[@Lmolina90]

I literally just replaced a pair of Keen Hiking shoes because the soles kept peeling off. Maybe I will have to look at them again when my new shoes wear out.

[@yevhenmoroz7338]

My perfect shoes for winter are Keen NXIS Explorer - full leather NXIS 🥰! You should try it!

[@readyme]

with delamination issues on my current Keens... I like the change.

[@robertbdavisii9801]

How come no Oboz reviews?

[@corail53]

I have worn keen targhees since the 2 and now use their work boots and they always fall apart in the same places. I hope this new way of doing this will improve their quality because the delamination issue spans their entire run.

[@jj4483love]

Hey that Swasey wallet design is excellent. I really like having slots on the outside for my main debit card and license.

[@wickedsteve]

At risk of sounding like a shill I am happy with my keen sandals, my keen shoes and keen boots. My experience with Keen customer service was good. They were professional, courteous and sensible. Really I have no affiliation with them, just a fan.

[@michaelfinlay1412]

i noticed that there is a piece of blue foam/recycled foam at the very end of the heel, how big is this patch? it seems to be for added squish right at the back of the heel, to help make them more comfortable

[@fhistleb]

Bought a pair of Keen circadias that lasted a month before I wore the sole out by just doing short walks. I was able to warranty them out and get some money which I put towards this shoe, its leagues better than the IIIs and the durability for these outshines the circadias by a lot.

[@willwellens6990]

I wear keens safety toes everyday for work, for the money they are great and normally get a year or more out of them before I have replace them

[@tonyervolina5500]

I wish true sizing was included more in the reviews

[@jasonalbert9939]

Any chance you could do some videos on the Keen work boots?

[@QuickQuips]

Project Farm did one of them.

[@jag12549]

Please do the keen Cincinnati or the Cincinnati vs the Davenport. And if you could do one of their work sneakers that would be cool

[@wy2907]

Bring back the Gypsum 2 ! Best boots. Only wore out the soles due to the mileage i do.

[@JackJankowski-v7y]

If you review the leather on a couple of popular baseball gloves. Compare prices or somthing I’m shure it would get a lot of views. I’d love to hear your opinion on baseball glove leather.

[@ry-land-]

I have that thorogood knockoff with the aluminum toe. I love them. Although I am going to try this FP insole. Seems like an interesting product you would look at

[@shaunpugh3287]

A good review, but after my experience with Targhee III's I doubt I'll be buying Keen again. They are very comfortable, but once they get wet they take an age to dry out. They are good in mild, dry conditions. Given the price of them you should compare them to boots from AKU, especially the AKU slope which can often be found for the same price as Targhee III's.

[@SapperChan]

I'd love to see a series on high quality hunting boots. I have a pair of hanwag tatra tops I've been running for 5 years now, curious to see what's inside 🤔

[@MCgrease08]

I have such a love / hate relationship with Keen. Super comfortable and wearable, but always hit or miss on how long they actually last. Some models seem to last a while, but my last pair make it maybe a year of moderately hard wear. I tried a pair with those flexible rubber bellows in the vamp and they tore after about 4-5 months. I kept wearing them, but both heels cane unglued about 3 months later. Very disappointed for a pair of Keens that cost close to $200.

[@patpathealy1243]

Vasque st elias gtx is my favorite hiking boot. I am on my 4th pair.

[@paulkersey6283]

Must not be a good boot if you’ve gone through 4 already..

[@philsmith2444]

⁠@@paulkersey6283Hiking boots are generally built to give 750-1000 miles of use. The midsole generally goes first, after which they’re not suitable for hiking because the shock absorption is gone.

[@cwarren4396]

I really like mine after six months.

[@jacoblowe387]

Really want to try these on but cant find them anywhere in the uk

[@williamhancock9587]

Why don’t Rose Anvil do a collaboration with Keen to build the all leather upper shoe??

[@1NCUB1]

I nearly died because of a pair of Keen boots. Had a pair of Targhees in 2020 that I'd owned for 6 months, worn regularly but not everyday. I'd noticed that the soles were a bit worn and on rocky or slightly wet terrain they sometimes wouldn't grip very well. I'd just summited a mountain in the Southern Alps in NZ it was a little damp but not bad. Was walking back along a ridge trail when i lost all grip on a patch of flat but rocky terrain, and skidded straight over the edge of the mountain (about an 800 metre drop). Fortunately there was a tree growing into the side of the cliff about a metre down that caught me and i was able to climb back up. Not sure i'd be that confident in wearing any Keen boots after that. They definitely shouldnt have worn down to that extent with light use after 6 months.

[@jetdr]

I have had decent luck with Keen, my work boots have been keen for the past 10 years, my current pair isn’t made as well as my initial pair, they went from brass eyelets/speed laces to plastic. They break off after some hard use

[@DavidvanSelm]

Please can you test the Veldskoen Moveme Ranger Boot! Another world-class South African brand!🇿🇦

[@jenxrj]

I've checked your channel, but you have yet to review the Quest series from Solomon. Hope you can get your hands on one soon.

[@RJKYEG]

I have been struggling to find a replacement for my 10 year old Salomon Eskape hikers. The current lineup of wide-sized Salomon boots are pretty much vegan and not as well made as my old boots (and not wide enough), and I have bought and returned 3 pairs of Keen boots because of the fit. The most disappointing was the Keen Pyrenees; one of my feet was just too fat I guess - but those are made of leather, if they came in a wider fit they would be easily the No. 1 choice.

[@lonewolf025]

My first pair of tarhees lasted for about a year and a half before I wore out the soles and I wasn't that hard on them. Second pair was better but got them too close to a fire in an attempt to dry them out quicker 😅. After that couldn't get a well fitting pair that didn't feel messed up.

[@seisporocho]

any updates after your hunting trips??

[@PimpinIncPro]

Can you do Salomon Quest 4GTX’s next?

[@n0pe213]

Buy gaiters if the boot isn’t high enough

[@MrMorphie1337]

Are you gonna go for honey vibram on your new collab with Whites ? God I hope so !

[@billystpaul8907]

Can I buy one of Rose Anvil toasters....?

[@thecrypticgamer9896]

Any news or releasing more ND3 or releasing ND4 boots?

[@alexrodriguez7532]

Do a New Balance boot review bro !!!!!

[@Tripskull]

What about Oboz hiking boots?

[@mr.casua1915]

Can you do Thursday boots Commander. I like the look and kinda wanna use it for work but not sure if it’s with it.

[@fredsvlogandreviews5867]

That sole looks like a skecher sole. I was watching the video and I was like wait that looks like a skecher.

[@Jarrow13]

I'm on my second pair of Keen Koven Mid boots. I get about 10 months out of a pair usually about 800km's. But doing 99% of my hiking in the Magalies Mountains that chews up boots like crazy, the Keens have been the only light weight and flexible hiking boots that lasts for me. Merrell hiking boots, I would get 2 months before they absolutely pull apart in the front and one pair literally lost it's integrity causing my heel to lean over the sole. The only other boots that lasts are my Jim Greens but they are too heavy for my liking and far from flexible.

[@sunset3052]

Good to know. I have a pair of Keen Targhee 3 Made in USA that I bought a few years ago, hiked around 200 miles so far (Tahoe, Sonora, Yosemite, Sierra peaks), still like almost new except the bottom outsole. Really durable and comfortable and my feet are wide.

[@mmancino1982]

I have the Targhee II and it's crazy comfortable but it hasn't lasted at all. Really disappointed

[@lutomson3496]

the rubber soles on my red wings rotted off, after a few years...ill take TPU over rubber for longevity it doesnt rot

[@Hea1thyGuy]

i know you covered converse chuck taylor and chuck 70 but i was wondering if you can cut through a pair of “made in japan” chuck taylors. i don’t like the way chuck 70s feel for me but i hate how poor the durability is on normal chucks and i heard the made in japan pairs are better quality than the regular chucks but not as uncomfortable as the 70 so if you could cut them open it would be very helpful thanks

[@Dorkus_]

Please review the L.L. Bean Game Warden boot!

[@marcelreijerse]

"Keen is one of the most popular hiking boots in the entire world". The world is really a lot bigger than just the USA. In Europe I used to see their sandals quite a lot but not so much anymore. I see mostly European brands hiking boots or trail running shoes around here.

Do you plan to review some model from Scarpa or LaSportiva?

[@D100XX]

My keen hiking boots have lasted 6 years. Not sure I will ever need another pair. My doc martens are over 22 years old, in good condition, made in England

[@bor5425]

Rose can you review the austrian military boot (feldschuh leicht)?

[@luisdavidsandoval6072]

What are your top picks for wide toe box boots (not barefoot), Weston?

[@glenw9048]

Tried the Targhee 2 and it lasted Two years. Tried the Targhee 3 and it lasted only a year. Will give the Targhee 4 a try. If the soles tear apart. Will be the last time I buy Keen shoes. The shoes are very comfortable but durability is just not there.

[@nathanielscott6159]

Why isn't there a flip or flop series

[@melon7592]

you need to review keen work boots

[@Heaven01993]

Have yaw done a review on the Carolina Lineman Boots?

[@pbsa1979]

Partner and I have Keen Pyrenees, as we wanted to have same for adventures, bottoms of soles begun to delaminate after third hike, less than 50 miles. Very good looking and comfy, but quality is atrocious...

[@Pyjamarama11]

Gaiters are your friend

[@yujenliao9574]

Hi Rose , love your video and review , i'm just wondering how do you feel the grip and traction on this shoe , i owned Targhee 3 and was a huge fail for me , it was super heavy and grip is horrible compare to vibram , i then bought the 4 coz the shoe looks too good and again the grip and traction is so bad , i sliped multiple times , i'm just a little surpsied this is your go to shoe as you must have worn way more betters hoes than me . btw i had way better experience in hoka , teva , north face , scarpa than this shoe

[@charlie.drowned]

an unbiased review sponsored by the company who is being reviewed

[@mauricej1987]

All his reviews are sponsored... he let it slip around xmas with his "worst of list." Really disappointing.

[@kzookid545]

You should send him a pair of boots you’d like reviewed

[@charlie.drowned]

@@mauricej1987 Every video is 3 minutes speedrunning the brand's About Us page then a calculated fluff/pan depending on who's paying the bills. Like omg bad shoe is bad!

[@Colorado_Ronin]

So, all of their videos

[@thegreattuna7187]

Great intro!

[@MusclesMgee]

Does anyone know if the MUGGS are coming back for a 3.0 this winter?

[@RJKYEG]

Vasque still makes some mid-price hiking boots out of big pieces of leather.

[@ruquik]

wide toe box, but they hardley ever offer and actual wide.... The thats where the Merrel Moab wins

[@scoobertjoo]

Keen has a USA made "coburg" that is 8"

[@TheUncleRuckus]

"The last Hiking Boot you'll buy" yeah from Keen!! Call me old fashioned but I expect my footwear to last longer than a Year and not disintegrate and laminate in that time. And I'm certainly not Keen about my boosts turning into useless jelly just bc they sit in a closet!! Total garbage is what Keen is. 🤷👎👎

[@jag12549]

Ps hate the clown shoe toe box

[@SparkyOne549]

I do not like anything PU. They don’t last unless you live in a desert.

[@kronos34569]

I get that a man's gotta eat, but making a review of a shoe that is sponsored by the company that made the shoe isn't very reliable...

[@CowboyRibeye]

His reviews are literally in front of you physically with the footwear in half so you can see everything. How could he be swaying someone if he's just saying what's inside the boot? People are so caught up with being tricked that they can't watch an objective video with proof lol

[@grapesodapopinski571]

Yeah but that’s KZbin. These guys aren’t making vids for fun anymore. U really can’t trust any review nowadays

[@zack9912000]

I trust his reviews more than anyone else.

[@TheZimberto]

Keen are super comfortable but they are NOT durable.

[@NDB469]

Targhee 1 sucked, 2/3 were good, let’s see how the 4 is.

[@Uvvibes]

What are some other more comfortable and durable brands? The targhee is ugly lol

[@harrybrown7680]

Don't ruin your main-channel with Hiking-Boots

[@russiaKGB]

merrells better boots

[@texandy89]

To me Salomon boots are better I own a pair and to me I have no issues with them Too bad he does not review them at all

[@davidjernigan8161]

My issue with the Keens is that the wrap around part of the outsole would delaminate in the area where the boot flexes around the ball of the foot.

[@wastelandranger6021]

TPU is so slippery in winter. My Blundstones are a nightmare on snow and ice.

[@JRoJamz]

I buy winter boots for my job as a delivery driver. Walking across people's snowy lawns, up icy driveways, general New England BS. I'll keep your comment in mind. On the other hand I do like durability on a budget. I do have slip-on cleats in my truck, but I'm usually too lazy to put them on. What is the best in terms of traction that is commonly used?

[@barronjames.]

I hope they are not as slippery as anything that uses vibram. keen actually was great because the outsoles didnt slip

[@rorynelson7548]

Keen are trash. Super comfy for 3 months then they fall apart.

[@jimbeaux89]

Dude that intro was such a sick product plug with the toaster and wallets. Imma get one strictly due to that sweet ad.

[@aussiviking604]

On wet rock Keens are literally banana peels. Sorry, cannot use them ever again.

[@deXXXXter2]

I hate PUs - they suffer from hydrolysis, especially when not used frequently and kept in humid environment. A lot of boots with PU midsole desintegrate after a few years turning into slime. Edit - oh, you talked about it :D Good. My hiking boots sufferred from it 2 years ago on a trail in mountains, i got livid. Fortunately i got back safely as well.

[@mylesgalos6465]

Thats why i dont buy shoes with PUs mid/soles, they dont last

[@wastelandranger6021]

​​@@mylesgalos6465If you just wear them its not a problem. Dont leave them unused for years. PU is way more durable than EVA.

[@biggidousthethird2672]

​@wastelandranger6021 yeah ive had my blundstones for about 5 years and havent had any hydrolysis.

[@NormanF62]

If you live in a dry climate, they should last forever but if humidity is a concern, look elsewhere.

[@deXXXXter2]

@@biggidousthethird2672 5 years is usually the time, when things only start to go bad. Yeah, I know i have to use them, but sometimes there is just no occasion for a specific boot. Plus I forgot about mine for years :D