Fix Your Analog FPV Signal With These 5 Tips

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Hey thanks for watching!! I do appreciate all the comments helping me out! I want to make it clear that I am pretty new to FPV. I’ve only been doing it for 2 years. Take my suggestions with a grain of salt because everything I’ve come up with is based off my own research and testing. Thanks again and keep commenting as it helps me learn!

[@Jellyman]

Do you have your part 107?

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@Jellyman not quite yet. I’m currently studying for it. Don’t worry, nothing on my KZbin channel is monetized and I don’t make money off drone filming yet.

[@Jellyman]

@@Witty_FPVdrones that's a bit of a misconception. I'm a part 107 pilot in the area, do you have a discord server or anything?

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@Jellyman no I don’t have a discord server yet but hopefully soon! Would be a good way of connecting people in the community for sure.

[@Jellyman]

@@Witty_FPVdrones if you want, my server is linked in my bio. I tried linking it here but I think KZbin blocked the url

[@RufioReed]

I subscribed. Appreciate the hard work

[@mil-fpv4931]

9:30 Good advice! I've been trying to do that and yes I'm so connected ans see so clearly now.

[@lukemarvenko2845]

When you say omni do you mean omnidirectional? Because the antenna you linked for the VTX is RHPC..?

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

That’s an omnidirectional antenna. RHCP is the polarization of the antenna. Pretty much you should run either all RHCP or all LHCP. Doesn’t matter which one just all have to be the same. Hope this helps!

[@lukemarvenko2845]

@ oh ok I see, thank you

[@wdkpwr6586]

5:00 when you speaking about the lines here they can be also caused by not powering your fpv camera by filtered voltage from VTX but directly from FC

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Yes that’s very true! Thanks for bringing that up!

[@VodooFeed]

Agreed, and one more hint going into the same direction: Always verify that the GND part of your VTx Antenna (SMA plug) does not have any electrical connection the the carbon frame, because the frame always carries a lot of noise.

[@ЮрийЛипшиц]

some advices: foxeer wildfire reciver is sorta funky, we use mostly skyzone.

[@ЮрийЛипшиц]

but great video

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Yeah. Wouldn’t be my first choice in receiver. The TBS fusion and rapid fire are the best for fatshark honestly (btw I haven’t done much research into skyzone goggles, can you add an external receiver to them??) thanks for watching!

[@ЮрийЛипшиц]

@@Witty_FPVdrones yep, in cobra you can replace built-in, and 04 has two slots. (you can't replace reciver on 02). skyzone has quadversity mode for 04 goggles btw

[@ЮрийЛипшиц]

@@Witty_FPVdrones and ukrainian company called stingbee has some crazy quadversity vrx single module (not fatshark compatible) i think i can cover some crazy areas with it. (10 km (6.2 miles) is everyday flight for me)

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@ЮрийЛипшиц that’s awesome! Good to know.

[@FPV_sk8]

Thanks for the info. Definitely a few things I haven't heard. Like low dbm on the goggle omni antenna. Can confirm though, I tried high dbm on my goggles and it was noticeably worse.

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Yeah. I’ve found that lower dBi with a long stem is the best way to go

[@jamiekent4777]

Yeah I was about comment exactly the same, glad I found your channel as I hadn't heard a lot of the points mentioned here :)

[@cflin4637]

I disagree with your statement regarding digital and not having to worry about it. I fly both and have to say that digital is is nice when not flying too far,plus the durability of the system seems to be miles better than analog components... In other than that, a good analog system is just more reliable than digital. With digital, the latency, although not terrible is definitely noticeable, and the experience of losing your signal compared to analog can be the difference between bringing your drone back or not. Plus, rapid fire has the drone finder thing where you point your goggle's antennas different ways and if your vtx is still getting power, it will beep at you more the closer you get and you can see the signal in the spectrum anaylyzer. Not necessarily a game changer, but nice when put in a specific condition of losing your drone that still is powered up.

[@iOsCODMine]

Your comment is very complete, and what antenna do you use for the vtx and on the rapidfire

[@Dunkelstrasse]

I liked almost all of the information and tipps given in your video. But one of them is cocompletely wrong, and i have to correct it. You dont have to softmount the VTX to get rid of those lines in your video feed. Those lines are not there because of physical vibrations in the vtx, they appear when your vtx power delivery experiences too much electric noise from the motors. A vtx is not impacted by physical vibrations, but rather electrical vibrations (if you want to call it so). You can combat this by twisting the wires connecting the vtx and fc, as well as the camera cables.

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

It can be both but that is the bigger issue. I have a friend who was seeing lines and soft mounting the vtx fixed that issue.

[@cflin4637]

​@@Witty_FPVdroneshmm never really heard that.

[@Magneticitist]

I'm not a fan of the skyzone goggles I have, but they do allow 2 modules at once and 4 total antennas for 'quadversity'. It's pretty good.

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

That’s crazy!!!

[@Magneticitist]

@@Witty_FPVdrones It's pretty legit. But to clarify why I don't like them it's cause of the lenses. They are the SKY04O's but I should have got the 04X's. Mine have cheap plastic crap looking lenses but otherwise they are legit goggles that offer DVR and all the inputs/outputs etc. The nifty thing about them is that they came with a standard 5.8g diversity module that also receives audio. So I was able to buy the "Steadyview X" module that has a narrower bandwidth filter (but no audio) and combine them together to get pretty good video AND audio. The Rush Tank Max Solo VTX is 2.5W capable but also has a real audio input so you can add your own AGC mic. I always recommend that vtx.

[@CamdenWallraff]

What if I have a whoop with vtx+camera combo unit with a straight antenna soldered to the unit? Im only getting a few meters of range with a rh omni and patch antenna on the goggles

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

I’ve got insane range out of crappy vtx camera combos so it’s probably one of these issues: 1. You’re running too low mW on the vtx. 2. You’re on a close channel to the actual channel so it will pick up but only for a few meters Let me know if either of those suggestions fix the issue! I’ll be happy to help troubleshoot.

[@Magneticitist]

I've been playing around with tons of various analog stuff in the background for a while now trying to figure it out.. I use it all on RC cars so I've needed to try to find what works the best as far as penetration. If you're getting crap results with decent antennas it's time for a decent VTX. 1.2G is really the way to go but that might not be for everyone for various reasons. 5.8G is a good alternative given the bandwidth and product availability but you're almost wasting your time without a good vtx and rx. The reality is most of these antennas out there by reputable companies are very comparable. You can buy a complete crap antenna from a no name company and notice a large difference between it and something from TrueRC or Lumenier for example.. but for the most part we're not talking about gigantic improvements between what those companies have to offer. It all starts with a good VTX and ends with a good RX. The receiver needs to have high sensitivity. That sensitivity is going to make most of the difference. That's largely why those goggles modules work so much better than the cheapo stuff. They are running closer to -95dbm+ as opposed to like -85dbm tops. IMO that is going to explain the vast improvement over any antennas you choose. So if you are only getting a few meters of range, literally, then it doesn't really matter what antenna you're using. You should be exceeding that with no receiver antenna at all. Your VTX is probably trashed or something is just not right with how it's setup.

[@CamdenWallraff]

@@Magneticitist well as it turns out, the manufacturer has the wrong vtx tables on their site (betafpv cetus M04) and once I got the proper channels (and power levels) I now get nearly 1/2 mile on 25mw! (And also the vtx isn't burning my hands after 1 minute of being turned on) Improper Configuration seems to be the biggest range killer here. Barring that, have you found any antennas or rx modules that are slightly better than average?

[@Magneticitist]

@@CamdenWallraff IMO any popular goggles module is going to be fine. I use Skyzone modules in some goggles where it's basically 2 modules and 4 antennas all at once. If you use any of the cheap receivers out there they are not going to have the sensitivity to push really good range unless you have ideal conditions and clear LOS. My favorites are the TrueRC Matchstick antenna on the VTX and Lumenier double AXII 2's on the receivers + Lumenier patches as well.

[@TechFpvindia.]

Hey bro I from india, and now I will bou fpv goggles, iflight Fpv Goggles vs skyzon cobra s , which one is best, and if I use good antana on my iflight then which one is better

[@ThrashFPV]

So the wildfire fusion module (look at bardwells vid on it) isnt the best but for around 60 to 80 dollars theres the speedybee fusion module, it has almost the same performance as a rapidfire

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Ah yes. Speedybee is so good for the hobby with how well priced it is. Only thing I’d be concerned about is how long it would last before breaking but I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Speedybee. I think they made a bad rep for themselves with the whole randomly exploding ESC issue they had.

[@ThrashFPV]

@@Witty_FPVdrones yeah and actually that esc issue is fixed. But i got it day one and theres no degredation in signal like tbs sometimes has in there vtx, and i highly recommend lookin at thw comparison on this module and a rapidfire. Its absolutly insane how close they are, hell i flew a tinywhoop (400 mw) from my couch inside my house through the backyard of the neighbor 2 houses up and still had perfect video, it makes NO sense

[@ragndroneman]

Nice work Witty, you just helped me understand how to make my video reception better. Great to hear a guy still talking about analogue. New sub from me. What was the song you used on the outro please?!

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Hey! Glad I could help!! The song is “addicted” by the chainsmokers. Thanks for watching!

[@ragndroneman]

@@Witty_FPVdrones thanks for your reply. Hope you have a great weekend. Im about to go find out what other tracks I have missed by the chainsmokers, and reminice in the 1's I remember. Thank you. 😀👍

[@francisdaoust5862]

First, clearview was the king of reciever and the first in market with mixing ability. It is still the best and also they still upgrade there reciever. Second, you want to use 2 of the same type of antenna pointing in the same direction in mixing mode. Third, you can use a mx-air in vertical position to replace a omni, it will get you 5.8 dbi

[@DanoFPV]

You forgot steadyview with the 3 mix modes

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Oh yes I didn’t even realize that receiver was a thing!

[@ChrisQuadFPV]

Yes that's what I use, its top notch 😅

[@muhammadzaki4987]

Skyzone not recomended?

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

It is pretty good. I just have no experience with it.

[@digitalpituitary5226]

Awesome video. I just subscribed.

[@babyzfpv1234]

Lumenier Double AXII 2 long range antenna is my favorite!!! If you’re flying cliff sides or mountains, just make sure you stand where you can always see the drone. And do not deviate away from the path.

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Oh yeah lumenier makes unbelievable products!!

[@Magneticitist]

Double AXII 2 for receiver and TrueRC Matchstick on tx. Both amazing antennas.

[@SanneBerkhuizen]

Tip from a beginning KZbinr myself, Get rid of your camera monitor. Your eyes are attracted to the screen. But you should be looking straight into the camera. Other than that. Awesome setup. Keep the grind and you'll make it. I subscribed. Nr. 196

[@SanneBerkhuizen]

Oh... That comment at the end.. Digital isn't care free. Yes the avata may save itself when you have breakup. But when you fly o3. And you get breakup... You better disarm. With analog you mostly get slowly degrading signal. Most of the time you can punch out and signal will be better when you get high.

[@nugrostv5758]

Thanks bro for thw tips

[@tristanking6483]

Subscribe... Like... Now your a better pilot!

[@atriusvinius319]

Why do you still use an analog system?

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@atriusvinius319 it’s more reliable, lower latency, and most importantly the cheapest option. If you have an O3 system on a freestyle drone and break the camera on it, your out $150. If you break an analog camera it’s $16. Almost 10 times less. I am gonna save up for a DJI system but that’s specifically for long range only. I will always fly analog on freestyle.

[@atriusvinius319]

@@Witty_FPVdrones I see. Dji O3 is a really expensive thing. How often do you break your camera and the others components?

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@atriusvinius319 I very rarely break cameras. I use a very small one and most of the time when you break an analog camera you can just get a new lense for $5. The O3 is very large and it’s a lot easier to break. Most of the time I break props and antennas though

[@nugrostv5758]

+1 done .... thanks for the tips bro

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Of course!

[@DanoFPV]

Crosshair isn’t a patch antenna, it’s a crosshair, they are different

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

My bad I misspoke. Patch antennas do a great job at picking up in the direction they face. The crosshair is similar to a patch but has better penetration and a smaller field of reception. Thanks!

[@jaysonrees738]

I have to disagree with just maxing out the amount of gain on the VTX antenna. The radiation pattern is a large toroid, and more gain will flatten it out. This is good if you need extended range and the pattern will stay very level, but as it's going to increase the size of your nulls, it can work against a quad that flips around arbitrarily. As for digital signals, they still bear the same weaknesses as analog, but do a better job of hiding their struggles. Following good practices for analog will benefit all radio systems out there, even if you don't see it happen.

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Yes I agree with your point! Usually you’ll only find a “max” omni antenna of 2.8-3dBi made for fpv.

[@babyzfpv1234]

I fly mountains with double Omni

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Do you do one straight up and one sideways or both straight up? I’ve heard good things about dual omni so maybe I’ll try it and do a review between: patch+omni, crosshair+omni, dual patch, and dual omni. We can find out what yields the best range!

[@babyzfpv1234]

@@Witty_FPVdrones the double AXII is straight up and the tbs Omni is sideways

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@babyzfpv1234 that’s awesome!! Thanks!

[@richardruckert7954]

Redundant ground...YT. Propsoff

[@DESTINYFPV]

Or you could fix it in one step and go digital.

[@CHloras]

In the 21st century when almost everyone switching to digital, you talk about analog… probably this is the reason why nobody is subscribing 😊

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

💀💀💀 people still use analog dawg

[@ThrashFPV]

Ah yes found the dji pilot🤣🤣 around 50 percent probably more are on analog still bro. Analog has better latency, audio support, is cheaper, aswell as king on 1 s whoops (please try to freestyle a hd whoop and tell me its better than a analog whoop (from a performance side)

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@ThrashFPV THANK YOU ❤️❤️ I’m not the only one thinking analog is still useful 😭😭😭

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@ThrashFPValso analog is the heart and soul of all freestyle fpv. If you break an analog camera or vtx it’s only $30 to fix and if you break a dji air unit it’s gonna be $120 to $300 to fix. With freestyle where you’re bashing your drone all the time you want analog

[@ThrashFPV]

@@Witty_FPVdrones fr tho. Not everything has to be some perfect picture in your goggles to have a great time, and with how far analog has come like with the phoenix 2 cam and that you just use an action cam if you want hd video, analog is KING. But hey ill gladly buy up the old fatsharks because of people selling analog (got dominator hd2s for $125)

[@kimgudboi]

Copy. I'll get as High as possible.

[@samholdsworth420]

Tip #6 buy a dji 03 system 😅

[@emil_dumm]

i’d go for ws instead of dji

[@thezucc2478]

HEY, I don’t have that type of bread :(

[@daisywong-ke1kz]

Really Great Work man! Don't know if you might be interested in a YT video collab? (PCBWayDaisy)

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

Please email my business email: [e-mail]

[@daisywong-ke1kz]

@@Witty_FPVdrones will do. :)

[@TechFpvindia.]

Hey bro I from india, and now I will bou fpv goggles, iflight Fpv Goggles vs skyzon cobra s , which one is best, and if I use good antana on my iflight then which one is better

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@TechFpvindia. the skyzone cobra S would win in my book. Although you wouldn’t see too much of a difference in performance, you would definitely prefer the quality of the skyzone goggles. Thanks for watching! Hello India! 🇮🇳

[@TechFpvindia.]

@@Witty_FPVdrones thanks, where are you from

[@TechFpvindia.]

You have Instagram account for contact you ?

[@Witty_FPVdrones]

@@TechFpvindia. America! 🇺🇸