Fix your blurry stream on Twitch

[@Julian1Gtz]

I’m having a problem my stream was perfectly fine it was clear and all good 1080p 60fps 6000 bitrate and I was able to multi stream to TikTok with no problem but all of a sudden I couldn’t anymore my stream looks blurry I tried lowering the resolution and the bit rate and it still looks blurry and when I try to multi stream my twitch stream freezes and cuts but my TikTok stream looks perfectly fine the problem is only on twitch I have 600 download speed and 35 upload speed and a brand new graphics card I really need help losing my mind trying to fix this

[@MurderYue]

I checked your channel. You're streaming from your phone it seems? So we have to take in now your putting all the work into the phone and requiring the wifi connection to be able to hold the stream. Ideally you have the numbers to hold a decent stream, now you have to consider your hardware.

[@G4ming_OG]

I’m struggling with this so bad I got an rx 7800 xt and a ryzen 5 5600x using stream labs on Facebook and KZbin and it looks wicked blurry no matter what I do

[@MurderYue]

When it comes to KZbin, and you own a more up to date GPU. Your GPU supports AV1 and HVEC encoding, ideally you want to use those over the pretty aged now H264. AV1 is the most up to date encoder which you want to favor. When it comes to KZbin if you right click and look at stats for nerds. We want to try to make it trigger the better "codec" which on youtube is VP09 rather than AVC1. I know to trigger VP09 almost every time is to push up to 1440p stream. VP09 is better with lots of movement and generates a bigger file size, AVC1 is fine for simple animations like 2D or so. Unfortunately, I don't have feedback for FB as I never touched it or was interested in that audience.

[@MurderYue]

Also using slobs its similar as the base of the code is always we can say "borrowed" from OBS studio the people who actually code and develop for OBS. OBS has always been open to the public. Slobs happen to take the platform and stamped a ton of other crap of their own over it. Slobs is more resource heavy and if you can help it and get out of their ecosystem, your rig would appreciate using OBS Studio over slobs. if you haven't kept up with the times and such this is one article covering the drama www.polygon.com/22787950/streamlabs-obs-controversy-company-name-change-twitch

[@G4ming_OG]

@@MurderYue thank you

[@TEXX_OFFICIAL956]

I stream on twitch using 720 30fps and it looks great. But when i go over to fb or kick it looks like crap when i move

[@MurderYue]

Twitch is pretty friendly when it comes to 720p, I never touched FB. Kick with the friends who moved over to kick. It seems like their platform isn't great for720p. I recommend to 1080p if kick on their end allows it. For kick its based on your viewer count and eventually they allow the 1080p

[@staffyFPS]

hey matey been streaming for a while now and have tried everything with trying to take the blur away in my eyes i think its holding me back and more people tend to leave which suck cause i can still av around 10 to 20. cant work out whats going on i have a 3080 etc and my studio settings are the same as what you got there and its still rough around the edges. i notice people with weaker pcs doing alot more than what i can i i think ive a pretty decent rig

[@MurderYue]

Hey Thanks for dropping by the video and commenting. You have a good gpu which is good. I'm assuming you are streaming on twitch? Which we are defaulted to using H264. Depending on the game like example: Call of duty. Lots of frames, tons of movement etc. We may want to surpass what twitch minimum requirement states. So my most recent video doing the call of duty raid. I was actually pushing 720p 60 with 6000 bitrate due to the game is fast and has a ton of information to push into the site, however if you live stream on youtube, they recently updated to allow you to use x265 which is a better encoder that has been out for years and it actually looks better for streaming. I tested with a buddy of mine where we are pushing 1080p 60 but we did select the "ignore streaming service setting recommendations" and pushed his bitrate to 7800. Think of say your bitrate is a bucket of paint and it has to paint what you feed out. If there's a ton of movement then it will require more paint, I hope that makes sense. Then common thing is as well is to have OBS run as Admin, we want to have OBS have all the permissions it needs and resources to hold the stream and give best quality. A lot of the things are consistent such as keeping keyframe interval at 2 and max b frames at 2. There are some things you can get away with like lowering preset to p5 rather than overkilling it to P7. and multipass mode you can get away with doing quarter res which was OBS old setting of "max quality". Keep me posted on where you stream and how things turn out.

[@MurderYue]

Also i found your twitch page. Your stream quality looks pretty good, I see you done quite some research to even not push 1080p and keep it 936p. I never tried that resolution yet however it looks like it's paying off for you. The game I was able to view hell let loose which not a crazy ton of things were happening across your screen so it stayed pretty clear. If anything keep it up man.

[@staffyFPS]

@@MurderYue hey thanks for the replies. yea ive put in a lot of work of stream to try and keep things going well i just notice we things here and there and wonder if i can make things better. i have streamed some cod just lowering few settings and it seemed fine. some times i half to cap my fps at 60 cause the stream will go all laggey not to sure why that happens thanks for the feed back and ill keep plugging away

[@NativeGamingg]

Need some help with my streams brother I’m having some issues with pixilation once I move in game. My twitch channel is Nativegamingg _

[@itsgock]

so i should stream at 720 if im playing fast movement games ? at the moment im doing 936p and still comes out blurr

[@MurderYue]

Essentially yes as think of bitrate like a bucket of paint. The bigger the resolution the canvas your painting on is the more paint you have to push out. So example like warzone. 720p 60 with 6000 kbps bitrate comes out clear, playing like Diablo 4 same setting but 4500 I was clear. Really depends on how much info is pushing out from the game, but 936p-1080p we realistically need to more bitrate. Which if streaming on twitch you can bypass it by clicking ignore recommendations and can go up to 7000-7800. Note that obs prob yell saying unstable but the stream was clear, normally partnered streamers get the access of 8000 bitrate however even though we can’t really hit 8k we can get close and have a clear stream.

[@WiredElite]

I stream on twitch with a dual pc, both having 3080’s and they still look fuzzy.

[@MurderYue]

I’m surprised as you got 3080s running the show. I doubt encoding a issue, perhaps internet speed or something else? I tried looking at your twitch but you have your vods hidden. From the little I watched of your KZbin videos seem good quality?

[@WiredElite]

@@MurderYue can you look at my latest live on Twitch? I’m going to make some clips out of it before I deleted can you look at it before I do that?

[@MurderYue]

@@WiredElite Alright so I see your stream. It's pretty clear like 99% of the time. What I'm seeing is you are in twitch limitations of the 6000 bitrate. The blurry only happens sometimes, which I stated proper 1080p is more like 8000-9000 bitrate. You can if you have the upload speed bandwidth click on the ignore stream settings under stream and push 8000. I believe people like nutty he streams on twitch and has multiple vods on streaming and has experimented with it. Hence why people tend to stream 900p over 1080p. Also, uploading to a server like twitch we can't control when it decides to hiccup and drop some bitrate as nothing ever consistent. You definitely have the power of your pcs so it's definitely not your pc; it's the upload and twitch itself. I believe someone with like a 1660 GTX can still get away with an ok stream. A high stream pc rig isn't needed that much, but of course if you decide to push more then yeah. Of course, you do have to factor how many sources to additional plugins that can take away some power, but for what I'm seeing an average viewer won't notice or have a problem watching you.

[@WiredElite]

@@MurderYue thank you so much for the feed back. Yes, my bitarte is set to 6,000 I will change it to 9,000. One last question, I use a HD60s+ to connect my dual PC set up. I was thinking perhaps that’s making it seem a bit fuzzy. I wanted to upgrade to a Elgato 4K60 Pro MK.2 You think this will help with the quality and the ability to stream and record at the same time, without it affecting the stream? Thanks again.

[@MurderYue]

I don’t think the hd60 is a real issue as it’s taking in 1080p 60 fps . And you’re most likely mirroring and I’m sure it looks fine to obs, and pushing to twitch you have limitations of it only willing to show 60 fps. You can upgrade as I mean it’ll open the door to more resolution, however you have to factor that your gpu is going to work to render it down if you push more, like say if your canvas is 1440p and now it has to downscale to 1080p. If you match canvas to output then pc has to work less. Obs basically takes all the things you put on it and render it and then push it to twitch. But forreal overall your quality looks good.

[@Rpgesusgoingin]

i got a 3,000$ pc 4070 top of the line cpu gpu everything got a 150$ capture card my download speed is 800 upload is 50 and when i stream from obs using my capture card it looks great in obs and as soon as i start to sream everytime i moved its like the blurryness makes it 680p

[@MurderYue]

Depending on resolution and how fast the game is and how much information is across the screen such as a ton of foliage. It can cause the blurriness. Especially like twitch, they experimented with HVEC and AV1 however at the moment they paused testing and allowing a enhanced beta testing that allows the updated encoding. You can bypass bitrate limit of 6000 to max 8500, however the method is subtracting audio bitrate say if you use 320, you can do 8180 max. H264 twitch platform is outdated and unfortunately, we are at their mercy to update their platform.

[@TheGreatZachary]

What does it mean when you are streaming at max bit rate and the stream is still pixelated? I’m well with in the internet requirements I’ve got 200 down and 150 up and it doesn’t matter what setting I’m using it still shows up pixelated. I looked back at some old streams and it doesn’t look as bad at it does now. Any suggestions?

[@MurderYue]

Hi there, couple of questions, what is your gpu?, what platform are you streaming on? And a site like twitch has a cap on bitrate, which you can hit ignore and push a bit more bitrate. I checked your KZbin channel you got videos from years ago and one short from 2022. What’s your platform?

[@defaultavo]

I dont understamd on twitch i cant stream on 1090 P but in youtube i can stream on 4k. Twitch doesnt have servers in my country

[@MurderYue]

yeah unfortunately it sounds like you are limited by the servers and Twitch doesn't allow the massive bitrate that KZbin allows and updated encoding like H265/HVEC and AV1

[@andrewagape9244]

I have my bitrate set to 60,000 and it’s clear when sitting still but once I move it’s sorta fuzzy looking. Not awful but I can tell. How do I fix that? My internet speed for upload and download is the same and ranges from 600-700

[@MurderYue]

Hey thanks for coming by my video. Could you give me some more info and what platform? So 60,000 you stated which I assume is kbps (Kilobytes per second) as that's how OBS settings are which translates to 60 mbps. Depending on the platform there's limitations. And what are your pc specs like what GPU you have in your rig/ CPU? And is that 600-700 mbps? Based on what you're saying it sounds like you may have the internet speed. What is your resolution as well. Also, depending on the game such as like call of duty it's very fast pace, therefore sometimes meeting what the site minimum isn't entirely clear, and if you stream on youtube now they did implement allowing x265 and av1 encoding depending on your gpu. 265 encoding been around for years but is clearer and better, but yeah let me know.

[@jonnyelflaco662]

hi! i did everything in this video and it still looks blurry idk what else to do

[@MurderYue]

Hi Jonnyelfaco, So i went to your twitch. I'm seeing you avg 3699-5159 bitrate playback. If you turn on your stats when you go back to your vod on twitch you can see what twitch is taking in. Therefore my conclusion is its either ISP which is often inconsistent sometimes, or you may have other interruptions that won't get your bitrate up to par to what twitch demands. Also, do take note that what i stated in the video is realistically a proper 1080p 60 fps stream does need to achieve above 8k, however we are limited by twitch. I would probably recommend going the 720p 60 route. I do notice some stuttering here and there. Are you playing mainly from your pc and what you state on your bio isn't just purely ps4? I see your twitch says you did convert to pc gaming. Which welcome to pc gaming. There is a newer video i made explaining a little about vram which the 3070 has only 8gb vram and depending how much you do and tax can cause stuttering as well.

[@MurderYue]

However overall your stream isn't bad, its watchable just not completely smooth. Which good on that you know. Seems like maybe you have some tweaking to do and work along with how much you can output with your internet.

[@MurderYue]

3rd comment I guess lol! With newer gpus out av1 encoding is actually quite impressive, however that is only really available ATM on KZbin not twitch. 4000 series and newer amd and Intel GPU actually have this encoding, however we are still on h264 with twitch therefore needing to meet things. We adjust accordingly

[@jonnyelflaco662]

@@MurderYue hey thx for the reply! ya i moved to pc in the start of 2030 :) and tbh im new to using obs so how do i switch to 720p? and ok perfect ill check that out!!

[@jonnyelflaco662]

@@MurderYue i think the problem is that i live near a airport so maybe that could be the problem?

[@FlockersDesign]

even with these settings on high end PC a maxed out OBS and more upload speed then twitch can handle its still blurry not huge but still there 7 to 8000 kbps is twitch there max BTW

[@MurderYue]

Did you deactivate your twitch? I went to see how your stream fairs off if you did stream. I fix people streams often when they ask and we have to test things. There's things to factor when it comes to what hardware is doing to network stability. Of course Twitch streaming platform isn't the best but there's a balance where we can output to the best we can. Realistically 10mbps is the ideal bitrate to meet when it comes to 1080p and I mention it that the limitation of the site is a hindrance.

[@FlockersDesign]

​@@MurderYue no if you used the links in one of my videos there outdated Its mrnolife_yt with a purple black logo with the letters FS But it also depands if you look on pc or mobile ofcourse pc have more blur then mobile and mostly known on camaras blur will always be there this will never be fully gone

[@ChloeThomsonYT]

I can get good quality from using NVENC in 1440p60 at 6000Kbps on my Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090Ti FE. Blurryness/Pixelated is mi-nute, only the very small odd pixels but isn't noticeable

[@MurderYue]

nice nice, you stream on twitch? I know its quite picky. but you do have a beast of a gpu. I know for sure 1440p is favored or minimum 1080p on youtube. Anyway thank you so much for coming by!

[@cyberk1ng_]

I can't fix my stream, it looks bad, I have good internet and a decent pc

[@MurderYue]

What's your pc specs? I noticed your resolution is quite low and bitrate. Are you using nvidia or AMD? or streaming with the cpu?

[@cyberk1ng_]

@@MurderYue Did u find my stream? nice, my res is 1260x768, I have amd (rx 560 4gb) and I changed my bitrate but it does look bad still.

[@MurderYue]

@@cyberk1ng_ ​​⁠ so part of the issue with that aged gpu, is amd encoder isn’t the best in its earlier gpus and nvidia nvec encoder tends to outclass it. With bit more modern amd gpu you would be fine. there was a time my laptop had the 560. So I have some experience with the 560. obs had a AMD developer to code amd better before leaving the company, after that happened the 560 didn’t do so well. Unfortunately I don’t think your 560 is cut out for streaming. It’s just due to older encoder in it. If you have space in your cpu to handle the stream perhaps it might look better. Other than that I don’t have much more guidance. I know with the 6000 series amd implemented rdna2 which has a better encoder. Eposvox does have a video comparing Intel quick sync, nvec, and amd encoder on 5000 series. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZTSgHqcjZ6krsk

[@cyberk1ng_]

@@MurderYue ok thanks man! also I just streamed on discord and it looks really good, but now I know that my gpu is not good for streaming, thanks for ur time.

[@MurderYue]

@@cyberk1ng_ give this a try with additional line coding on the bottom, from Eposvox video it may clear up the stream but we are limited by what the 560 can do. Check his video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eomvaZJ3mceimJY

[@jxivce_TV]

Hey bro I have a 3080 graphics card but for some reason everything still looks fuzzy and a bit blurry even when I look at my past broad cast my upload speed is 11.74 my nitrate is at 5500 on streamlabs, do you think I should lower my bitrate or get better internet? I’m super confused and don’t know what to do

[@jxivce_TV]

And I’m also running streamlabs on my vertical monitor, not sure if that can ask one an issue

[@MurderYue]

@@jxivce_TV Hey I appreciate you dropping by bro. So if you are in the range of 5500 then your stream probably be better at 720p 60 to meet that bandwidth but more questions like whats your encoder, are you using nvec's encoder or you using your cpu, also note that using slobs there is a bunch of slobs interface being loaded hence why i'm not a slobs user as the mainframe of slobs is obs studio. Anyway think like each bandwidth speed has a range of where you should have your resolution. Better internet can help but depends on where you are streaming twitch, youtube or kick. Depending on the platform it does change what resolution you should stream and how much bandwidth you want to push out. But yeah also factor that when we upload to YT there is a compression that does occur. Lots of factors.

[@MurderYue]

But yeah your comment unfortunately caught me at a bad time as I have some family emergencies going on but I will answer when I have opening to help.