Fix your Viessa Build [Optimized] - The First Descendant

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Vash Cowaii

Vash Cowaii

Күн бұрын

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@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 24 күн бұрын
Cue the Viessa defenders, for they will be many. Supporter code(remember to renew): creators.nexon.com/s/vashcowaii%236354?serviceId=74
@DonPetexX
@DonPetexX 24 күн бұрын
Have been interested in checking out sharen?
@vladimpetigo6941
@vladimpetigo6941 23 күн бұрын
Why not? When it's boring to play power descendants? just chill on Viessa ;)
@keltkenterbery
@keltkenterbery 23 күн бұрын
Vash, you idiot... I play Viessa cuz she has bikini skin with THE FINEST BUTT in the game. I don't care if she's a bit slower, I just a perv and want to see a great bakery while I kill Vulgus
@nullvoid2001
@nullvoid2001 23 күн бұрын
Can we get gley next?
@Nurimac
@Nurimac 20 күн бұрын
I am genuinely curious, what would you do to fix her? I mean i myself feel like her kit fall short on what it needs to be on base line plus her trans mods are kinda the same in terms of falling short. I feel like the devs tried to make her a little of everything and fails on each front. There are better bossers better mobbers and better supports, and that's fine but she need something to stand out. I have my one ideas if you were at all interested but im kinda interested on how you would address her if fix/buffed/reworked.
@YJSho_Nuff_
@YJSho_Nuff_ 24 күн бұрын
Shes my main. This hurts my feelings lol
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 24 күн бұрын
lmao
@integeraV9
@integeraV9 24 күн бұрын
Literally my first descendant, AND ultimate🥲
@thespectator9018
@thespectator9018 23 күн бұрын
Real
@1Raheem
@1Raheem 23 күн бұрын
Yeah to me she was “The First Descendant”
@nickeling2776
@nickeling2776 15 күн бұрын
Mine to. I don't know, what his problem is.^^
@johnkamadeva4747
@johnkamadeva4747 23 күн бұрын
Meh i still and will love my dear main Viessa no matter what, she’s my very 1st Descendant and the one the I invested in and and nothing in this video can change how fun Viessa actually is
@flameofanor1415
@flameofanor1415 22 күн бұрын
At least y'all made peace with it instead of coping, kudos.
@Nyadroig
@Nyadroig 17 күн бұрын
At the end of the day, fun is the most important part :3 With that said, however, it'd be so good to see a buff on that cold hearted robber!
@pandaangy1826
@pandaangy1826 24 күн бұрын
personally i use chopsticks when eating pizza
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 24 күн бұрын
bro is an MLG pizza eater over here lmfao
@InhumanRYLO
@InhumanRYLO 24 күн бұрын
This bro might be showing us he has been playing kyle the whole time.
@blacksage81
@blacksage81 24 күн бұрын
Blasphemous
@YJSho_Nuff_
@YJSho_Nuff_ 24 күн бұрын
Thats pure black airforce one energy
@JADE-Lennox_66
@JADE-Lennox_66 24 күн бұрын
Or eating porridge with chopsticks
@Batoooosai
@Batoooosai 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for the great work man! You helped me confirm what I suspected all along, after 12 catalysts on her I just cant make her feel anything above "good enough" either.
@ADway-hn7qu
@ADway-hn7qu 24 күн бұрын
TL;DW: Viessa isn't meta so just go play meta. F is for "farming" not "fun". Ok, all seriousness, it's fine for a character to just be fine.
@DarrieusJohn
@DarrieusJohn 21 күн бұрын
Exactly, she's very much a jack of all trades kind of character, she's okay at everything but far from the best.
@Aurummorituri
@Aurummorituri 23 күн бұрын
Just finished my Absolute Zero Viessa. She’s not as flashy as Bunbun or Freyna, but anything in front of her or chasing her just dies. You have to rely on gunplay more than Freyna, but her Ult is drop and go without the risk of interruption and you can go ham with Afterglow or Enduring while you beam the face. Less of a nuke, but I feel way less squishy. Also, I don’t have to trade speed/AOE for more boss damage.
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 23 күн бұрын
"bunbun"
@Aurummorituri
@Aurummorituri 22 күн бұрын
@ Freyna is buena, Viessa is mi Contessa, and Bunny is…just Bunbun. 😄
@St1ckY72
@St1ckY72 7 күн бұрын
Yeah, she's feel much more well rounded than any other character I've played so far. Well, maybe ajax. The fact that she isn't super squishy and she inherently deals cc, most other descendants are support only or glass cannons. Viessa feels tanky enough to take a few punches without even building into tankiness.
@walterekurtz2630
@walterekurtz2630 23 күн бұрын
Numbers aint everything buddy, lots of us just enjoy the snow
@GIGAREAKTEM
@GIGAREAKTEM 23 күн бұрын
think of it like this. more people complain about a descendant more likely she is to get buffed making you even happier
@emilykaldwin3081
@emilykaldwin3081 24 күн бұрын
I main Viessa for her thighs and her unique pistol sheathed position whilst on her back in comparison to any other descendant which is unique
@JoblessJoshua
@JoblessJoshua 24 күн бұрын
I just checked and I don't see how the pistol sheath is any different? Its the same position, on her back right, same with Bunny
@emilykaldwin3081
@emilykaldwin3081 23 күн бұрын
@JoblessJoshua Idk for regular Bunny but Ult Bunny is on the side and Its the Ultimate Viessa that placed on her back, idk about regular Viessa
@JoblessJoshua
@JoblessJoshua 23 күн бұрын
@@emilykaldwin3081 Which pistol? Most weapons like the thunder cage are placed on the back
@emilykaldwin3081
@emilykaldwin3081 23 күн бұрын
@@JoblessJoshua All pistol and its only exclusive to Ultimate Viessa
@JoblessJoshua
@JoblessJoshua 23 күн бұрын
@@emilykaldwin3081 Add me in game since I want to see this for myself, since I tried it with Ult Viessa but still can't make it work. Tac#3674. I'm Mr26 too
@manih5393
@manih5393 24 күн бұрын
Its not her fault, she just needs a little love from the devs, though sharen needs it more...
@Qballiz2kool
@Qballiz2kool 7 күн бұрын
I invested 7 catalysts into the Ultimate Egyptian ice cat…… Only for her to be relegated to chill void shard farming and that’s about it. XD That eating pizza with a spoon analogy describes Viessa in her current state pretty well… The problem is you COULD play Viessa, but then you’ve got other infinitely better options to use like Freyna/Bunny for mobbing, or Gley/Hailey for bossing, so it becomes the question of “why” when you think about using Viessa for something outside of getting void shards from a Frozen void fragment.
@chipperdrewski
@chipperdrewski 5 күн бұрын
As a Viessa main, I completely agree with this video.
@zelge_
@zelge_ 23 күн бұрын
Ngl my roster is still Bunny Viessa Freyna Hailey Sharen Hope the new male in s2 is fun to me, then my top 5 won't be a simp list, but "it is what it is"
@1Raheem
@1Raheem 23 күн бұрын
Enzo is good
@zelge_
@zelge_ 23 күн бұрын
@1Raheem ik, this is my roster Also, idk when ult Enzo is coming, so im not investing in him Goes against everything I learned in my hours of warframe
@Fackletard
@Fackletard 23 күн бұрын
Why would you lie?
@DarrieusJohn
@DarrieusJohn 21 күн бұрын
​@@zelge_tbh I think it's fine to invest a little in Enzo especially since they said they're prob gonna introduce a system to transfer progress from base descendants to ultimate ones.
@zelge_
@zelge_ 21 күн бұрын
@DarrieusJohn im aware, but I have Hailey/Freyna doe colossi and only need Enzo for vaults Also, he is good, and I can't deny it, but he's boring to play for me personally
@shwoompyy
@shwoompyy 24 күн бұрын
I’m not a Viessa hater, she was my first ultimate purely because I wanted an ice descendant, and I invested a lot into her. But I couldn’t agree more with your statement, I haven’t used her ever since I got Hailey.
@TheSADOHUNTER
@TheSADOHUNTER 23 күн бұрын
As a Viessa main player I want to thank you. You nailed it! Especially the comment on 3 different characters and shoving them together. I love to play Viessa but compared to the other choices she got hosed by the developers. I use her for Mobbing and bosses when I want/need resistance to what ever I am dealing with fire/toxic/ etc. She definitely needs a rework but her and Sharen are what I play most. Yeah I am weird but I am not gonna defend her because you explained what I am seeing with her. Maybe some day she can be as good as Hailey with guns and Freyna with mobbing.
@BasedBrave
@BasedBrave 23 күн бұрын
Everybody just wants every character to be a nuke. It’s just that simple. If they not a walking nuke like Freyna and Bunny they useless
@NotFound-tj3vp
@NotFound-tj3vp 23 күн бұрын
Agree, this game is becoming the next Warframe, if you don't nuke the entire room or don't do negative red numbers then your build / frame.or weapon sux
@RagaGearforever5
@RagaGearforever5 23 күн бұрын
It's all because of how they designed the hard content. Asking you to slay more than 500 mobs in every dungeon, leads to make players look for big and consistent aoe damage on their characters and weapons. Colossus battles are the only difference now, but now everyone is building max shields and enduring legacies to tank and DPS the bosses with every single descendant.
@BasedBrave
@BasedBrave 23 күн бұрын
@@RagaGearforever5I was one of the first people to ever get enduring legacy. It’s a great gun. I just so happen to notice a common tread with the majority of the content creators of TFD….they hard focus on meta to much. What makes 400% dungeons (hard) is the density, keep in mind they don’t have the enemies with the special abilities, no drain, immunity etc. imagine that. Probably and hopefully that will be what mega dungeons are. That will perhaps tilt the meta and make people think more power over all rather then just damage numbers.
@flameofanor1415
@flameofanor1415 22 күн бұрын
​@@RagaGearforever5Because Death Stalker forces you into shields, smartass, not because its the best build.
@BasedBrave
@BasedBrave 22 күн бұрын
@@flameofanor1415 She doesn’t force players to do anything, players just go to their favorite content creator and copy paste a build. You don’t need shields players just follow the meta without thinking for themselves. I farmed Death Stalker and got R4 Frost Watcher in no time on my Gley while using the Blue Beetle to wipe the debuff off me. That’s a player issue not a developer issue and they sure have addressed this in the most recent Q&A that they will indeed be adjusting and and adding more diversity to the mission types etc. The community is to is to meta focused and it’s not only easy to change that…it will change
@andypanda889
@andypanda889 21 күн бұрын
Take your time and build every ultimate descendant. They all have something good to offer. Sometimes i feel playing Viessa, other day Valby, then Freyna, etc. It is good to explore into different options. We all know Freyna is the 'do anything, kill everything easy and fast' character in the game. You can just rely on her and forget any other investments yet i don't feel like playing with her only every day every time is a fun thing. Also i don't like to run as horse and stress myself thinking i have to rush all the content in a week then cry like a monkey and blame the devs because there is no content and nothing else to do (there is always something to do but it means 'use your brain'). Whatever. Have fun people. TFD is a great game. Just calm down and take your time. Viessa is fun as hell. Has many options, modules, advantages. Don't get crazy because you killed that colossei in 7 seconds instead of 5. Maybe because you don't feel to move and use your gun is 'good' compared to just throw a skill and then sit down waiting everything to meltdown. Idk people. When the 'fun' became just 'have everything fast, easy and cheap'. Something is deeply wrong here.
@pacer2310
@pacer2310 22 күн бұрын
I've been playing spam build for several months now. She's still my go-to Descendant for most content that aren't Colossi. What you've said is true, but I think she's perfectly fine. She's just not overtuned like Freyna or Hailey. What's sad is I think post-buff Blair may actually be better than her now.
@pooolish334
@pooolish334 24 күн бұрын
I play with Viessa because I own her summer outfit and it forces me to play with one hand. Its a true challenge.
@John-t5k
@John-t5k 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video, very detailed and definitely agree with your take on Viessa. I've tried a bunch of different builds for her trying to find just the right fit, but I always come away with the fact that she's sorely lacking relative to most of the other descendants. I feel the same way about Blair. It's a shame because she's a pure ice character and Blair is a pure fire character, you'd think they'd both be among the strongest descendants. Hopefully the devs are watching your vids and they decide to buff these two up like they did with Kyle and Esiemo.
@dinvsl
@dinvsl 22 күн бұрын
Just join the crowd playing mindlessly as Freyna and you’ll be fine.
@gerhardschelkmann3228
@gerhardschelkmann3228 23 күн бұрын
My disappointment with Viessa was surprising and she didn’t feel better after I completed her. She is not bad but has no outstanding ability.
@Kaze9000
@Kaze9000 24 күн бұрын
Eh, I'm a still gonna use her 😊
@Ilikemycheesedrippybruh-q2f
@Ilikemycheesedrippybruh-q2f 19 күн бұрын
Breaking News: Numberphile man does not like it when numbers don't go high, shocking!! Stay tune for the next segment and find out why "Valby is a bait for anyone who like numbers" . . . Also that's not "mobbing build", that's spawn camping build.
@evilkonkarne74
@evilkonkarne74 5 күн бұрын
Thank you, you helped me created my builds for Viessa especially your bossing build. I used it on 400 % and playing with a team and got 858 Million in damage.
@iLeicha
@iLeicha 23 күн бұрын
90% of people who build viessa build her for the xp farm, and most importantly proficiency xp, which was very hard to acquire, until recently when they introduce the 400% dungeons, So the people who build her they got the most out of her already. and she still good at those two things, So definitely she was worth the investment, i got the most out of her, Build her now as new player probbley not worth, Unless you like the character, then you do you.
@AhmadAbib
@AhmadAbib 23 күн бұрын
With resource defense update, XP farming now is stand and watch...
@Ceno420
@Ceno420 23 күн бұрын
Viessa is one of the only characters that can still use an ability on an enraged Colossus. If you throw her ice shard so that it blows up like a burst around right above the Colossus rage plug, it will do A LOT of damage to it. She may not be perfect but she's still better than at least 25% of The Descendants.
@MrC8025
@MrC8025 23 күн бұрын
She's one of my 5 mains. She's really fun to use, as you use all her skills for the mission. Freyna/bunny gets stale quick, especially bunny she's extremey boring. Viessa is the most engaging. Her and lepic, my favorite for dungeons. It's not always about completion time, there's people who like to play the game and not rush through it. I never use her for bossing though, not even once.
@sirtheoT
@sirtheoT 23 күн бұрын
Same , whenever i play viessa on a 400 dungeon i have so much fun, and am one of those absolute zero enjoyers. I have all descendants and viessa feels so different and fun.
@PsionDelta
@PsionDelta 23 күн бұрын
True, eating a pizza with a spoon will take longer but you might have more fun doing it this way. I still use a knife and fork though, quite boring - i Know, but it's quick and efficient.
@MrC8025
@MrC8025 23 күн бұрын
@@PsionDelta Huh? Lol. Hahahaha. Not even apple and oranges. Apples and rock. Lol find a better analogy.
@PsionDelta
@PsionDelta 23 күн бұрын
@@MrC8025 you did not watch the whole video then? It would make perfect sense if you had watched it 😁
@vane909090
@vane909090 23 күн бұрын
Freyna is extremely efficient but gets stale. That's why I'm building Gley now.
@Revvlyn
@Revvlyn 24 күн бұрын
i really hope the devs watch this video and take suggestions from the community and they give her a much needed rework/massive buff, the idea of an ice queen character was very appealing to me from the start so she was my starter descendant but after trying other descendant you can really notice how lackluster she is compared to the other characters, rn bunny, freyna, valby and etc are so much better and fun to use than her (mostly freyna and valby being my favs) sucks the only use i gave her before the increase in xp for weapons and character is to use her for weapon leveling and mastery xp. now with special operations you can max level a weapon as fast or faster than her while not being so goddamn boring
@vadzz726
@vadzz726 23 күн бұрын
Imagine a transmod for viessa like freyna’s contagion 🤔 I mean she’s ice queen for a reason, so the devs should do that.
@monostorizsolt2472
@monostorizsolt2472 12 күн бұрын
Make thathypotermia spreads! Would be amazing
@monticulo9423
@monticulo9423 24 күн бұрын
Reddit is not gonna like this one
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 24 күн бұрын
reddit doesn't like anything besides thirst posts. So that's kind of expected.
@ghedin4
@ghedin4 23 күн бұрын
The thing Viessa excels at is dungeons with hard bosses. She is also the most fun descendant to play. Yet, Viessa's damage vs Colossi needs a buff. I would love a buff to Frost Watcher, either so it can proc with 100% chance or it's duration needs to be doubled at the very least. And it should provide more skill power. Noone but Viessa would actually use it, and Viessa would use it only for bossing. This would be the easiest way to buff her bossing. Also, all red mods other than Cold Bloodedness need a buff. As for mobbing, there's no need for a buff. Your mobbing build sucks so much, if that's what you're using in dungeons, you surely would feel like a liability. In dungeons, my Viessa kills trash as quick as any other descendant, except Freina. Also my Viessa kills bosses faster than any other descendant, except Hailey. As for your bossing build, where is Dangerous Ambush, lol? If you go for Colossi with Viessa you should go solo and kill it before enrage phase, in this case Slayer set and Dangerous Ambush is the way to go. In group play i don't recommend going in with Viessa at all, even though you can do somewhat _decent_ damage just using your ultimate.
@AzurePromise
@AzurePromise 13 күн бұрын
Bro these KZbin opinion guys are always wild. And people listen to them. When they build wrong play wrong or just flat out aren't even good.
@monostorizsolt2472
@monostorizsolt2472 12 күн бұрын
Agree! Booth on the bossing build, and his mobbing build sucks! Coldblooded is the slowest clear for dungeon, for bossing no ambush when the only time you will certenly hit with blizzard is when the boss is staggered. The range of Blizzard is so low, that to me feels like a waste to improve for bossing. If the boss is agile it will move out of the range before the second tick anyway, if the boss is big and slow will stay inside mostly anyway. She does not make a huge damage, but can shine with CB on add clear while adding extra dmg, pulling off the agro from the gleys and hailey (also directly buffing haileys dmg). On executioner you can keep clear even 3 portals while you aim every 4th shard at the frenzy tube, i managed to save myself from so many wipes because of her! I dont want her to become a braindead descendant like freyna kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooOkdXSofMRofM0si=E4dhxbE2_YTQmcsl Thats a 0 investment freyna, 1 skill 1 room - what is the joy in it? Viessa defenetly need a fix, but the HP of the enemies should be raised by 20x The joke is that A-0 frost road can dish out 1M dmg + /mob And hypotermia, just with the dot can dishes out 1.1M dmg/mob without duration increase Hypo has a really strict build with only 2 flexy slot, and A-0 lives on crit, so probably that one as well if you want to max efficency She needs fixes thats for certain
@kimmi-2407
@kimmi-2407 23 күн бұрын
Thumbnails always deliver
@Goonz2oonz
@Goonz2oonz 24 күн бұрын
Only thing wrong with Viessa, is other descendants to OP!!! But fixing her tick and polar night buff would be nice.
@jaysosa8373
@jaysosa8373 23 күн бұрын
I hear what your saying but I don't agree. I have all the female characters and the only one that I enjoy other than Viessa is Valby. I also really enjoy her skill set. feels good slapping enemy's with her skills.
@AzurePromise
@AzurePromise 13 күн бұрын
My Viessa has been an absolute asset in any party ive ever been in. I use her for 400% dungeons. I no longer use her for bossing in intercepts since hailey made everything else meaningless. But her dungeon value is pretty clutch. Quit hating bro
@jesseosborne9945
@jesseosborne9945 15 күн бұрын
viessa still queen of vesper farm at least. awesome vid vash!
@Soturnox1
@Soturnox1 23 күн бұрын
Following this concept, Viessa being a skill spammer, improved my gameplay 100%. Thank you very much
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 23 күн бұрын
no prob. Can't recommend her as a whole obv, you got that much from the vid, but spammer is def the most pleasant way to play her right now
@CosmicHermitCrab
@CosmicHermitCrab 22 күн бұрын
I like how she gets two default (built-in) V (crit-related) polarities on ultimate viessa, biggest bait/trap of all ultimate descendants.
@mett7
@mett7 23 күн бұрын
I mean i like Viessa, shes is still ok compare to something like Sharen atleast. True about this game is that powercreep will catch every descendant eventually. Bunny use to be best for most parts of game and now everyone use Freyna.
@AhmadAbib
@AhmadAbib 23 күн бұрын
With bunny at least you need to press W while farming, with Freyna and defense ops update, it's braindead stand and watch... Not gonna complain though...
@EienRozen
@EienRozen 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for making the Viessa video. Pretty much confirmed what I was already feeling. I really don't give two shits about her skills tbh, I just want her orbs to have good range and trigger literally the second anything is within that extended range. Right now, the only thing range seems to do is increase the aoe and not actually the trigger distance, making the passive basically useless. Feelsbadman.
@varsinzo4844
@varsinzo4844 20 күн бұрын
I remember when Freyna used to suck, and I still play with her just because I like her. I dont think Viessa sucks but I also dont think shes great, shes just OK, which I think is OK.
@jasonhooper9910
@jasonhooper9910 12 күн бұрын
I’m trying your build. Works quite well. Noticed she kinda works best as a speed demon skill spammer. Which I know is pretty much the build but, add the Albion Cavalry Gun. Now she’s a speed demon. Just need a good build for the gun. Not worth a flip against bosses though, mobs are a different story.
@Ergospheres
@Ergospheres 23 күн бұрын
I always look forward to your funny wacky cat thumbnails. luna when
@Hac-dieu
@Hac-dieu 24 күн бұрын
Honestly agree, I invest heavily into Viessa because I bought her swimsuit. None of the 3 Transcendent mod builds that most people make videos and suggest felt all that fun to use (cold blooded being the funnest). I hope that the next major updates overhaul her kit.
@serendetta5150
@serendetta5150 24 күн бұрын
WOOOO YES THE GOAT BACK WITH ONE OF MY FAV CHARACTERS
@kasumimi
@kasumimi 13 күн бұрын
Majestic thumbnail
@spiraale5278
@spiraale5278 23 күн бұрын
I have every ult except Viessa and was about to grind to get her. You definitely saved me from a brutal 60-hour grind filled with sweat, tears, and unnecessary frustration.
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 22 күн бұрын
You're still gonna have to do it eventually for the MR xp, but just don't invest in her once that is done, do everything else first
@AzurePromise
@AzurePromise 13 күн бұрын
... bro. 60 hour grind? Cmon. Probably ten. To grind all her parts and completely level her.
@ZoopiAniyun
@ZoopiAniyun 23 күн бұрын
Well, I would word it differently. She's not 'strong', but I find her one of the most fun to play with a very active playstyle if you minimize cooldown (and solve the resulting MP issues). That for me makes her 'good' :-) I only wish her 3rd was Cold Snap Watch by default, as Frost Shard and Cold Snap are a bit redundant in my book.
@ys2850
@ys2850 22 күн бұрын
felt this since months ago, glad someone else feel the same
@kevins.3573
@kevins.3573 23 күн бұрын
8:35 As someone who grew up eating stir fried rice with a fork. Yes.
@XxDainBramagedxX
@XxDainBramagedxX 23 күн бұрын
You can take my Viessa from my cold, dead hands.
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 22 күн бұрын
you can keep her, why would I take her
@omarelrefai3570
@omarelrefai3570 24 күн бұрын
vash sleeping on the knife and fork pizza meta
@Shnickers123
@Shnickers123 9 сағат бұрын
After farming Ultimate Viessa, I realized the only way she isn’t dog crap, is if you have the polar night set,
@Awiatar
@Awiatar 23 күн бұрын
As much I really like her kit and playstyle for being just a basic Descendant that mixes gameplay with abilities and weapons like in every single looter shooter (Borderlands, The Division, etc.). 90% of the time I'm using Bunny for farming, 5% Hailey for Bossing on both Gun and Zenith Builds and the rest 5% is Nuking Freyna or Outpost Sharen Farming. As much I love the feedback from Devs and they are not trying to nerf things but buff others it's a nice change of pace coming from different PVE games, but with these recent buffs they are Power Creeping other Descendants or Weapons. And the new players will always chase meta or whats good to improve they current and future time spend in the game
@quinn636
@quinn636 23 күн бұрын
Good video as always, fucking great thumbnail.... as always
@dasadasadmana1791
@dasadasadmana1791 23 күн бұрын
Literally finished building ultimate today. Was whelmed with base version but good to know the ceiling for her is low and not to burn through a ton of resources for a mid character.
@AzurePromise
@AzurePromise 13 күн бұрын
She's really not mid though. Don't fall for the same thing warframe players fall for with content creators. Viessa is top tier in 400% dungeons with really any of her transcendent mods. I go into 400% dungeons and lay waste my dude. On regular viessa.
@dasadasadmana1791
@dasadasadmana1791 12 күн бұрын
@@AzurePromise ?
@AzurePromise
@AzurePromise 12 күн бұрын
@@dasadasadmana1791 don't take these creators word for it. Ever. Even the guys who stick to raw numbers. They aren't taking into account practical application and situational application. I'm telling you right now full investment regular viessa SLAPS 400% dungeons. Yeah she's not a Collosi slayer in group play (10s executioner, Pyro, dead bride solo killer) but 400% dungeons and invasions she's a monster bro. I'm like mr20 500 hours (I don't focus heavy on mr) so take whatever I'm saying with whatever grains of salt that you wish. But to say viessa is not worth using is intellectually dishonest and disingenuous. After all. Bunny doesn't murder everything. Just most things. Viessa murders everything in dungeon fights. 0 complaints in that department.
@AzurePromise
@AzurePromise 12 күн бұрын
@@dasadasadmana1791 and I didn't see an ambush in his mod bay. So. Missing out in a big way right there.
@magnificent_gaming
@magnificent_gaming 24 күн бұрын
I love viessa and clairvoyance
@BlakLanner
@BlakLanner 24 күн бұрын
That is how I play her. Absolute Zero, drop a blizzard and hold down the trigger between casts of her ice shard. It works but I kinda agree with Vash in that I feel like I have to work a lot harder than I should have to for the results I am getting.
@Geoffrey.McDonald
@Geoffrey.McDonald 24 күн бұрын
I sometimes use viessa with the simgular build just for fun. She would be better if cooldowns were a little shorter and modifiers a little higher. Pretty similar to valby having low modifiers
@karraeotus4682
@karraeotus4682 21 күн бұрын
I'm unaware if they've made any changes to viessa in the last week or so, but prior to that I ran/run a build that has somewhere around a 50% crit chance and absurd crit damage (guestimating about 400% because I log in infrequently), and hit for 400k non-crits and 1mil crits with her first ability alone. beyond that, I use ice needle (because it seemed cool) and do more damage atop that. HOWEVER, she is my only truly high invested character and after seeing your other videos, I realize that said numbers are in fact.... average at best. I personally disagree with the idea that she is directly bad, but that is moreso a matter of opinion when speaking about a game where okayish damage does everything just fine. You definitely know what you're talking about (not sarcasm) and I respect your points.
@suburbhermit8792
@suburbhermit8792 10 күн бұрын
Viessa main here... I have to agree with this. Viessa does need something that makes her unique. I suggest that she needs to be a CC and Damage character, but leaning more heavily on crowd control. The viessa main should be rewarded for building proper by allowing them to slow down enemies and colossi to a stand still for at least up to 10 seconds.. That would make her synergize with most team comps who are made up of lepic's, gley's and hailey's to do some crazy damage. Kinda like how Valby can make enemies have -20% electric resistance to allow Bunny players to do more damage. Also F Glacial cloud, F that stupid transcendent mod.
@bruhvz_9157
@bruhvz_9157 24 күн бұрын
Me and my buddy were talking about how cool her abilities look but in comparison to other descendants she falls short hopefully they give her a nice rework
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 23 күн бұрын
Hopefully. But that likely won't happen before all the Hailey hype dies down.
@alexstark6511
@alexstark6511 23 күн бұрын
I agree that it is not worth invest on her now because they brought freyna from the world of the dead, after a heavy and sexy marketing and buff. Viessa with cold blooded and more modules for cooldown and damage is a fun descendent to play with in single missions.
@XcaliberrO07
@XcaliberrO07 18 күн бұрын
i just love viessa , whether she is good or bad its fate .
@dragonpanda1301
@dragonpanda1301 23 күн бұрын
How dare you do this fair lady Viessa!😡😠😣
@ScarBebop
@ScarBebop 24 күн бұрын
Viessa has always felt like one of those Descedants that you would think is top-tier because of the hyper specific niches she fills but when you actually want to use her for anything else, the veil gets lifted and you realize she's actually incredibly mid. The only thing that makes her impressive is the fact that her skill 4 can kill enemies before they even spawn into the floor. Thats it. And when she can't do that everything about her kit just feels weak. On another note, WOO, the cats back! \o/
@MrTodalexandrov
@MrTodalexandrov 23 күн бұрын
She was my starter and i really tried to make Ultimate work and its fun to skill spam but i never use her...other than the frost damage on void shards
@valtor12
@valtor12 19 күн бұрын
As someone who loves Viessa and enjoys playing her, I just have to say, you’re absolutely correct 😢 it breaks my heart but she’s just not good. She is my second most catted descendant behind Kyle, and I regret it. I never use her for anything because there’s another descendant that can do it better, faster, and more efficiently than her. I really hope they rework her and turn her into the skill spamming queen she was meant to be.
@Saggyspandex
@Saggyspandex 24 күн бұрын
Best thumbnails ever 😊
@GamerX9428
@GamerX9428 24 күн бұрын
6 catalysts down the drain
@random2wins570
@random2wins570 23 күн бұрын
The only reason to play her is the swimsuit 😂
@KhallStream
@KhallStream 23 күн бұрын
The one thing Viessa has over Jayber for me that settles it is she has an Ultimate version. Which means I don’t waste catalysts on a normal descendant that will most likely be replaced and deleted later. Hope they allow carrying over upgrades to Ult versions later, I’d be more willing to spend time on building more characters. Thanks for the awesome explanations on the inner workings on the game though! They help a lot when trying to avoid wasting precious resources for us casual players with little time to spend on the more grindy aspects of TFD.
@Sparksman23
@Sparksman23 24 күн бұрын
Screenshot and dip squad where you at?
@PharCry
@PharCry 24 күн бұрын
Pizza spooning squad reporting in :p
@dashaunpitts8028
@dashaunpitts8028 9 күн бұрын
Her frost road regen is continuous it’s five percent at the cast but as long as it is active it keeps regenerating her shields. I have a build for death stalker on her for this fact. Edit: she does need a rework though I agree with that but I think there are other characters that need it more. Cough cough Luna
@Trodai2020
@Trodai2020 23 күн бұрын
Frost shad is epic! Spam it ever 3 seconds clear 400% super easy love spam builds. Absolute zero ,emergency measures, battle of stam, skill expansion,max range,skill inisght,mp conversion,nimble finger,front lines,skill concentration,focus on chill. Reactor chill/singular skill range 252 skill cooldown .071 with full polar set with clairvoyant gun maxed out
@DesertStarr
@DesertStarr 23 күн бұрын
I screenshot and dipped. Thx Bro.
@AzurePromise
@AzurePromise 13 күн бұрын
That was a mistake
@deadfall8475
@deadfall8475 21 күн бұрын
maybe not a spoon, but maybe knife and fork eaters. I trust Vash 100% in his builds, the maths math, and when there is a small mistake, he does fix things. She is fun to play, but not optimal. Vash does optimal builds. Plus, he just doesnt like viessa lol. Nothing he said was false, that i can see, but, maybe slight bias. Good work as always sir.
@AzurePromise
@AzurePromise 13 күн бұрын
He's not using ambush. Unless I missed it
@hexerin
@hexerin 23 күн бұрын
Regarding the whole "Blizzard randomly loses one tick of damage" thing. Literally all they need to do to fix that is change Blizzard's base duration to 6.1 seconds. That extra 0.1 second would completely fix the issue.
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 23 күн бұрын
It likely would, yeah, but will that happen is the better question
@vladenpain
@vladenpain 21 күн бұрын
Viessa's best ability is the power to wear a slingshot.
@Crockdoc
@Crockdoc 24 күн бұрын
She deserves a bittofabuff
@stevo6ix
@stevo6ix 23 күн бұрын
Yeah i only use cold bloodness with her. I don't think she is as useless as u say, compared to some bunny players out there but at least the video was entertaining, so +1 like.
@p3t_3r
@p3t_3r 24 күн бұрын
I remember playing viessa during the steam beta and she was just as underwhelming then. she has ALWAYS needed a rework.
@GXKA2191
@GXKA2191 23 күн бұрын
I like veissa cant wait for the buffs
@Dekarowski25
@Dekarowski25 10 күн бұрын
Do the characters change in terms of how useful they are? I only played the early beta so i don't know. In warframe the frames do get upgrades but that's probably the diference betwen developers i guess
@Hellwalker855
@Hellwalker855 24 күн бұрын
100% agree with you on how average her kit is.
@Gimmemi
@Gimmemi 23 күн бұрын
Love this
@pallydenyt9208
@pallydenyt9208 23 күн бұрын
I’m just going to comment because you mentioned people like me would, but it’ll be a bit different. lol. I, as a Jayber/Viessa Lover, agree that they are in a bad spot. I have not seen your Jayber video and agree that he is clunky. Thinking they should make the turrets drones that stick by you with their aoes or something. And Viessa… I love how she feels and how she plays, but she is just outclassed… I love absolute-zero, and don’t have much of a problem with the cooldowns, as I’m used to them at this point, but she needs more range, better damage, maybe even a debuff called like “Brittle” that can armor shred and maybe drop her damage a little. Like, she needs SOMETHING. I love these characters and have enjoyed using them, even if they are ass.
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 23 күн бұрын
nothin wrong with that man
@modernbeatnik
@modernbeatnik 23 күн бұрын
I imagine your pre buff Freyna video would have been about like this or perhaps worse of a review. So now I wonder what a post buff Viessa will be like if Nexon does the same with their upcoming balancing efforts in season 2.
@hoipoephoffd7
@hoipoephoffd7 22 күн бұрын
bro i just watched your 1 year old video of why you stopped playing warframe great vid. can i ask you why you choose to play this i heard this is like a warframe clone, ive never played warframe before but i like TFD very curious to hear
@mr.g1672
@mr.g1672 24 күн бұрын
She's the only ultimate I'm yet to unlock. I think I'll wait a couple updates more before i do
@thefrostbite
@thefrostbite 23 күн бұрын
Nah, absolute zero absolutely can hang but it's a jack of all trades, and that's fine. I assume you're a bit hyperbolic for entertainment value. Except for Jayber, he does suck.
@BrianLeFevre1015
@BrianLeFevre1015 23 күн бұрын
You can get her #1 on a 1.0 s - 1.6 s cooldown depending on polar/frozen set and It an aoe that crits for over a million . I don’t see how that is just above Jayber . She is one of the better mobbers in the game .
@thefrostbite
@thefrostbite 23 күн бұрын
@BrianLeFevre1015 so you agree with me
@Dyminxsh
@Dyminxsh 23 күн бұрын
Could you please optimize a supercooled kuiper round build?
@aigomorla
@aigomorla 5 күн бұрын
i use her mainly for outposts if someone else is on a sharen because i can just spam 1 skill and wipe the entire outpost. And also the void fusion reactors, as again, most cases the bosses die to 1 blizzard.
@thorinhannahs4614
@thorinhannahs4614 23 күн бұрын
I was building base descendants before building their ults. I decided not to build Ult Viessa but I built everyone else because I just don't like Viessa. Good to know she is in the funk.
@w1mark275
@w1mark275 18 күн бұрын
Just wanted to ask something stupid. if you use the tamer with general rounds compulsive you can activate the arche peacemaker inversion reinforcement for viessa for 25% skill cost reduction. Is this even worth considering even though you'll lose 20% on your reactor optimization bonus since you have to use a purple reactor instead of a gold?
@AzurePromise
@AzurePromise 13 күн бұрын
It's not worth using or building for the inversion buffs because they're temporary
@TheLolrider
@TheLolrider 22 күн бұрын
My biggest problem with Cold Bloodedness is that I don't want to use it because it absolutely tanks my speed. It just doesn't feel good to use.
@krzesio11
@krzesio11 24 күн бұрын
Not gonna lie, since Freyna rework I forgot that I even wanted to build Viess, so I don't think I will invest more catalysts. On the other hand, Have you considered doing Gley guide? That is if you even think there is a reason for it or if you even like her
@CarbonBlack8
@CarbonBlack8 23 күн бұрын
Maybe I missed it. Did you discuss crit v non? I was expecting the usual math bits
@amangouadominique687
@amangouadominique687 19 күн бұрын
JAYBER IS SO UNDERATED, have u played the immediate purge mod ?, u kill without moving, u have infinite explosions with large aoe et your turrets are always boosted. i tried both jayber is now better in mobbing than viessa so far.
@bitterblossom19
@bitterblossom19 23 күн бұрын
She was a decent caster preseason, now that almost everyone can nuke things and have stepped up their niche game (except Jayber), she feels lackluster. Rarely use her now but I had a lot of fun with her zero uptime blizzard build.
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