Luna, the Strongest Descendant [Optimized] - The First Descendant

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Vash Cowaii

Vash Cowaii

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@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 2 ай бұрын
Supporter code(remember to renew): creators.nexon.com/s/vashcowaii%236354?serviceId=74 Forgot to add 2 things to the video: 1) Analysis master can apply to her unique weapon if you have it equipped on whatever weapon you used before you swapped. This would only really matter if you're doing aggressive melody and buffing gun damage because Analysis Master only reduces Firearm Crit Resist. If you're in a skill-team, then it is worthless. On that same note however you can as you see in the video, as luna end the AOE early if you know the reg buff will last long enough on your teammates and pull out a gun to try and debuff the target. In this case it was python for the -toxin res effect. 2) I forgot to add an insult on the build screen so have it here instead: if you screenshot and dip, you enjoy eating cauliflower. Weirdos. I'm working on getting the update ready for the website, ideally I should have the update finished before I go to sleep today but we'll see. Worst case scenario, I finish the update tomorrow. The luna teambuffs option on the calculator is super cool though and it'll help you build out any character you want to when using a luna in your team.
@bk-altair
@bk-altair 2 ай бұрын
The hardest part of Luna is find the teammate that know her value.
@kungfudavie
@kungfudavie 2 ай бұрын
@@bk-altair it’s just annoying to play the game with no sound as that’s only way I can play as her
@s8nwulf
@s8nwulf 17 күн бұрын
Yeah I know her value she jams in the back ground when I’m slamming Champions 🤣
@IzanagiO
@IzanagiO 3 күн бұрын
FACTS
@Blim_Blammed
@Blim_Blammed Ай бұрын
You are an actual descendant genius. Only streamer that actually understands the game and got in-depth guides. Mad respect. Love the videos
@skuldnoshinpu
@skuldnoshinpu 2 ай бұрын
Even after they make her less miserable to play, her other biggest drawback is that she's useless if the team isn't built to use her buffs effectively... so she's basically never going to be useful in PUGs, only coordinated group play. Her potential is so high but only a small fraction of the playerbase is ever going to see or benefit from it.
@stevendavis6157
@stevendavis6157 2 ай бұрын
Pppffff! Every time I try to use her in group content, people just leave...
@wangusbeef86
@wangusbeef86 2 ай бұрын
I just wish she got a mod that lets her heal even if its just for ult version
@lunar69666
@lunar69666 2 ай бұрын
damn its almost like she has a gun mod for pubbing that they dont have to play or know what you do you just buf their WP or crit dmg
@ryukaganzeroful
@ryukaganzeroful 2 ай бұрын
@@lunar69666 i don't even disagree with you but you gotta clean up that word salad my guy.
@EpicRivers1
@EpicRivers1 2 ай бұрын
Yea, I mean You'd still get a buff, but you don't join a que with your "Luna" build on, hoping to find one lol.
@kurdoras
@kurdoras 2 ай бұрын
"Boring" my ass videos. It's refreshing because they're to the point, math-based, and not pandering. The counter-style works because it's done constructively. We're here for information, not a twitch stream. No toxic positivity BS to be found! Thanks for all the work. While I don't like Luna myself, it's good to understand her anyway so I know how to work with a Luna in my party and know what she is trying to do so I can appreciate the good ones.
@christopherayala6964
@christopherayala6964 2 ай бұрын
Im glad you did this video. I knew most of this about Luna, but just like your Kyle and Freyna vids theres always that 10% of details you provide that I didnt know. You killed it on R2 and your doing the same here. Salute!
@ryukaganzeroful
@ryukaganzeroful 2 ай бұрын
You're so smart and special. Thank you for letting us know you knew most of this.
@christopherayala6964
@christopherayala6964 2 ай бұрын
@ryukaganzeroful dont let your insecurities trigger you. Just learn and do better.
@ryukaganzeroful
@ryukaganzeroful 2 ай бұрын
@christopherayala6964 the irony in your comment is hilarious lmao
@rytnsla
@rytnsla 2 ай бұрын
I've been building my Luna for last 2 weeks. This helps a lot. Thank you for the vid.
@dinvsl
@dinvsl 2 ай бұрын
No, it doesn’t. You can buff either skill damage (better), either weapon damage but not both. When matchmaking with randoms you don’t know the team in advance. Don’t listen to this clown, if you know how to build and play her as AoE dealer, she’s second to the broken Freyna for mob clearing… and it’s much more fun to play.
@Laughingwithtravii
@Laughingwithtravii Ай бұрын
this is such wonderful luna propaganda, thank you. while i do absolutely love her, i play her significantly less since my friends stopped playing. it was indeed amazing to blow things up tho! i have 3 builds in one (including noise surge, which i do agree about.) nimble footsteps, increased hp, battle of stamina, frugal mindset, focus on non-attri, skill expansion, long distance maneuv, spear and shield, shield conversion (mp), enlightenment, skill extension, mp accelerant. this one is most similar to yours, opting out of arche concretion (cause im a movement enjoyer) as well as taking shield conversion (mp) to have more overall hp. for me its worth having the extra survivability, personally. as you can see i value hp quite a bit. but anywho, the point of this build is to have big buffs immediately. i dont have to build concretion stacks, i just have good buffs, good range, good duration, good survivability. i will concede focus on non-attri and spear and shield are copium/hopium to try to make my ddr gun not tickle, and on the rare occasion i miss a buff, the cooldown isnt as punishing. this is the build i used with friends/premades, most of your time is spent in ddr gun mode, BUT, you have enough duration you can swap to guns if needed. i also dont think i need skill expansion but i like big circle, so. it stays. i also suggest nazeistra's devotion specifically for a luna weapon to lean even more into the support role. noise surge, increased hp, weighing the scales, frugal mindset, non-attri integration, skill expansion, long distance maneuv, spear and shield, multitalented, mp collector, singular master, amplification control. while i still very much agree with you, noise surge is bait, i have a build for it anyways that just makes do with what polarities/sockets i had. the ONLY positive i can say about it is that it will make lvling luna extremely easy as you can do the vespers farm quickly and by yourself. for that reason it does have SOME merit as lvling luna can be a pain if you arent grouped with a mobber for example. but i think its extremely silly to give up the thing luna does no one else can do (her buffs) in favor of playing a worse version of bunny or freyna. noise surge players are deranged, but this is my 'solo' luna. i built into shields bc the enhanced recovers them, and she uses shields quite well. aggressive melody, increased hp, passionate sponsor, frugal mindset, time distribution, amplification control, long distance maneuv, increased def, agony, enlightenment, skill extension, maximize duration. this is my public lobby luna. its focused on gun damage and long duration so you can buff, get passionate sponsor stacks, and then swap to gun. this is also why i opted for maximize duration instead since duration matters most on this build since you are actively weaving in and out of ddr gun mode. im sure this could be better, shot focus for example, but overall it works how i want it to, and thats good enough for me, lol. but anywho, i just wanted to ramble, i love luna, im glad you do too, even IF its a love hate lmao. this was a lovely watch. if you do happen to read all this and want to do more testing, im curious about how her buffs stack. like when you use an enhanced red for example, the effects show up around allies feet, but they ALSO still have the red orb (from an earlier non enhanced red) floating around them. so im curious just how much luna is actually buffing if BOTH buffs are applying at once if that makes sense? granted this may not even matter once her rework comes, but food for thought or w/e. i came here to watch a hailey video btw cause i finally got her and just happened to notice this and was like 'i wonder if we have come to the same conclusions.' turns out, we kinda did.
@snakeking596
@snakeking596 2 ай бұрын
Staying alive while hitting every note is a hassle and I can’t even look at the best part of her if I’m focused on the music mini game😫 Also most people just don’t know or care about her value. Some players already don’t stand in Ajax bubbles, OoT invasion drone wipe circles, or the various Colossi mechanic circles. So I don’t expect them to stand next to Luna😂
@difference018
@difference018 2 ай бұрын
A team of randoms may not know how Luna works, and doesn't know if she is using aggressive melody or not. She relies on a pre made team. If she ends up on a team with another Luna, things become problematic.
@KakamileRS
@KakamileRS 2 ай бұрын
True, but that's the same for most support chars. You don't need 2 lunas/yujins/ajaxes. Maybe 2x enzo for 100% uptime 4, but in randoms they're more likely to cancel each other.
@varsinzo4844
@varsinzo4844 2 ай бұрын
Ive never seen 2 Lunas on a team. Never.
@ThePhilosogamer
@ThePhilosogamer 2 ай бұрын
This argument is just as stupid the 50th time as it was the first. You don't pick your transcendent mod based on your party, you pick it based on *the content you chose to play*. The last few colossi are all gun-based encounters, so you always take aggressive melody. If you aren't running those colossi, then you don't. This isn't rocket science. Luna is one of the least played descendants in the game. You are never going to see another Luna on a team. If that changes with her rework, it still only takes all of 2 seconds to type in the chat who you're going to concentrate on buffing. The only problem with the character right now is the difficulty of setting up and maintaining her buffs.
@judah_levi
@judah_levi 2 күн бұрын
Bro didn't have to call me a poser like that😭
@thepenitence
@thepenitence 2 ай бұрын
Now that the Luna video is finally out it's only uphill from here 😎
@AhmadAbib
@AhmadAbib 2 ай бұрын
I literally play this game after seeing her promos. . The problem with playing her, or any support in this game is, we are relying too much for other players to at least do something and not hugging the floor in public, in coordinated private team, sure.
@MrBigPauly1
@MrBigPauly1 2 ай бұрын
Two things: God dam you! I can't trust anyone else with builds since i've discovered ur channel, and now im reliant on you cause im too lazy to do the maths myself. But thx for the calculator and the improvements, in the end i dont have teh energy to make my own, so it's good that you added teh compare feature :) Second, just for those that are confused as i am, its not 'Toxic intensive' it's 'Toxic Integration'
@nickeling2776
@nickeling2776 Ай бұрын
You're better off doing the math for yourself, or at least not relying solely on this KZbinr. He sounds convincing and swears a lot, but your second isn't the only mistake he makes. I once wasted a catalyst because he specified the wrong polarity. In the Hailey video, he didn't include the 50% Firearm ATK bonus with Zenith. And those are just mistakes I saw myself, which isn't saying much because I'm not a pro. So do the math yourself or look at multiple sources.
@kasumimi
@kasumimi 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to file a complaint for the lack of cat thumbnail 😾
@kungfudavie
@kungfudavie 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. That’s the only reason I come here
@ThineBrownSmear
@ThineBrownSmear 2 ай бұрын
Same
@geebez
@geebez 2 ай бұрын
Another amazing Vid, you really sound like your bored and dont care, but we all know how much you do care by the effort put into these builds. Keep up the great work.
@jaklop5784
@jaklop5784 2 ай бұрын
finally Luna video *-*
@naliskun4222
@naliskun4222 2 ай бұрын
so niche but powerful you need so much coordination with her
@RaddyGhaster
@RaddyGhaster 2 ай бұрын
Big red, big nuke
@suriil9875
@suriil9875 2 ай бұрын
We know how :D. She is a Pom Pom girl , to give you 100% crit and almost double your damage. But since she is useless in PUB, only 0,00000000001% of People actually consider her being a useful character
@lunar69666
@lunar69666 2 ай бұрын
Most people dont a guy tried to tell me you still build crit less freyna with a luna
@suriil9875
@suriil9875 2 ай бұрын
@@lunar69666 Invite him for Nobel Prize
@peterawr3990
@peterawr3990 2 ай бұрын
I asked for this.. and the fact that you said Noise Surge sucks made me sad. I out DPS a few bunnies in 400% dungeons :(
@dinvsl
@dinvsl 2 ай бұрын
Because he’s the real poser who has never tried it. LOL This guy is playing the game only in the laboratory and spreadsheets.
@peterawr3990
@peterawr3990 2 ай бұрын
@@dinvsl Honestly, I respect his opinion not to (At the moment) because she is already getting reworked and it would suck for him to invest so much into this champ NOW and then be obsolete in a month or 3 ya know. But still, kinda sad he didnt try lol
@Plsrateeight
@Plsrateeight Ай бұрын
​@@dinvslbetter than sitting in your mommy's basement talking smack
@MrRyanAchmad
@MrRyanAchmad 2 ай бұрын
hot take: dev should add more complicated char like luna. i admit im a warframe smoothbrain who slap everything and go. but once in a while, i'd like a trigonometry and quantum entanglement lesson before playing a character so i can better fine tune them for my preferred playstyles
@catspajamas8852
@catspajamas8852 2 ай бұрын
Devs should add a puppet master descendant with 8 skills
@razgriz2276
@razgriz2276 Ай бұрын
Or sometimes it's just meme time but you don't want to be a hindrance to your team, so you just play the meat ball
@YJSho_Nuff_
@YJSho_Nuff_ 2 ай бұрын
If yall skip anything in his video you put sugar and butter on your rice
@mordredkingslayer7508
@mordredkingslayer7508 2 ай бұрын
I do deal with it
@yoda8569
@yoda8569 2 ай бұрын
Ok and?
@YJSho_Nuff_
@YJSho_Nuff_ 2 ай бұрын
@@yoda8569 a true menace
@KingConan
@KingConan 2 ай бұрын
That sounds kinda good 😂
@yoda8569
@yoda8569 2 ай бұрын
@@KingConan it is once u make sure the rice is soft and the butter is mixed in well with the suger like melted and then u blend the buttr with sugar then when is liquidy enough add water and blend add a lil more sugar and then mix with the soft rice white rice is bttr with it try it out its good.
@kassandrajade3643
@kassandrajade3643 2 ай бұрын
Where's the kitty cat thumbnail? 😢
@cooldime3086
@cooldime3086 2 ай бұрын
YESSSS IVEEE BEEN WAITING FOR SOOOO LONG FATHER YES YOU HAVE SEEN TRUEEE POWERRRRR
@ravagerxiii5488
@ravagerxiii5488 2 ай бұрын
Big brain reference for JJK
@louismeier3464
@louismeier3464 Ай бұрын
So much input..😮 takes a while to understand🧠 but.. I love it🤝
@truckerlogic8432
@truckerlogic8432 2 ай бұрын
Shes like Octavia with extra steps
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 2 ай бұрын
She def is, but those extra steps are not very fun
@adamsmith1904
@adamsmith1904 2 ай бұрын
Only thing i hope they change is the beat of her music, it doesn't follow the input prompts fully, it feels off imo
@user-HermanDankovsky
@user-HermanDankovsky 2 ай бұрын
I only play Luna in her dps build against mobs, and for bosses, I just use more suitable descendants. I hope the rework reaches her and more people start playing her; in fact, a lot could be changed for the better.
@ejwoozie
@ejwoozie 6 күн бұрын
So which/how many slots am i supposed to catalyze
@thattallmexican6900
@thattallmexican6900 2 ай бұрын
Damn dude her buffs are insane. She just doesn't feel fun to play so hopefully they make her feel less jank. I've been playing a lot of Yujin and Enzo recently and they're great for Deathstalker pubs. It would be nice to have another support to play:)
@SuwinTzi
@SuwinTzi 2 ай бұрын
Well sounds like Luna is impractical for randoms because you're relying on RNG matchmaking to put you with someone who knows how Luna's buffs work and is built around the right kind of Luna (skill power vs firearm).
@Qballiz2kool
@Qballiz2kool 2 ай бұрын
Yup, it’s a nightmare trying to do stuff like Deathstalker or any other colossus with her because of the rng of what ppl are using, about the only Colossus you can consistently know what a build majority of people are going to be running is Gluttony, but EVEN the she’s just not needed for the fight, same with Death Stalker, her buffs are nice in that fight too but they just aren’t needed. That’s a big frustration with trying to play Luna in most content. (I have 16 catalysts into the character, and I LOVE playing her, but man it’s a headache to do pubs Colossi with her, and the Xbox LFG is basically dead so it’s REALLY difficult to join dedicated groups.) I’m thinking I’ll put her down till her rework, either that or just run Noise Surge Luna for the time being.
@Qballiz2kool
@Qballiz2kool 2 ай бұрын
Yup, it’s a nightmare trying to do stuff like Deathstalker or any other colossus with her because of the rng of what ppl are using, about the only Colossus you can consistently know what a build majority of people are going to be running is Gluttony, but EVEN the she’s just not needed for the fight, same with Death Stalker, her buffs are nice in that fight too but they just aren’t needed. That’s a big frustration with trying to play Luna in most content. (I have 16 catalysts into the character, and I LOVE playing her, but man it’s a headache to do pubs Colossi with her, and the Xbox LFG is basically dead so it’s REALLY difficult to join dedicated groups.) I’m thinking I’ll put her down till her rework, either that or just run Noise Surge Luna for the time being.
@lunar69666
@lunar69666 2 ай бұрын
Nah just bank on aggressive almost everyone runs and shoots a gun its that easy
@dinvsl
@dinvsl 2 ай бұрын
Yes, she is impractical with randoms. I play her as AoE dealer (Noise Surge) and she is great for mob clearing. For 400% and defence missions she is second to Freyna, which I refuse to play (don’t like broken stuff).
@quentyns
@quentyns 13 күн бұрын
Very indepth guid. Would it be possible for you to show the modules like everyone else does the way the modules look in the game?
@rt10hammer63
@rt10hammer63 2 ай бұрын
Vash, I don't play First Descendant and don't plan on playing it, but just because I've discovered via Remnant that you are a fellow Spreadsheet Rat Brain Cooked Looking I find enjoyment in watching your content
@PanzerSoul
@PanzerSoul 2 ай бұрын
Dang, I had guessed Arche Concretion was designed for Luna, but this is ridiculous
@hdeck
@hdeck 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Wish I had a team to run this on as I actually don’t mind playing Luna 😂
@turbo012
@turbo012 2 ай бұрын
argh, this triggers me how the skill description numbers are not accurate. first time seeing numbers this off and rounded up.
@marshallobed7511
@marshallobed7511 2 ай бұрын
Yess Finally Luna is getting the respect she deserves 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
@paladinex9853
@paladinex9853 Ай бұрын
Yo, can we get a fix your ajax next? Great vids on these build guides and I love the nitty-gritty❤
@SlyI42
@SlyI42 Ай бұрын
8:51 Today I've learned something new. 13:19 I'm so happy to hear this 😭 I believe in Luna supremacy, but I have to run Noise Surge to be able to farm with randoms damnit!
@RaySpencer32
@RaySpencer32 29 күн бұрын
What about when not fighting Death Stalker? What mods could you slot in instead of Perfect Antivenom and Toxic Antibody that would actually do something? I understand you could swap those for ice/fire/electric for other bosses, but what about just some general play? Like I'm Void Vessels or something.
@christopherandersen714
@christopherandersen714 2 ай бұрын
No mention for hungry sonic set? Its at least better than bravery and i would think better than duration sets if going for 0 duration
@dinvsl
@dinvsl 2 ай бұрын
It’s difficult to assemble a good one. From 20 drops 19 are junk, similar to the reactor drops. I tried to collect a good one, then gave up, it will take too much time. I had to beat Pyro about 3-400 times to get a relatively good Slayer set, don’t expect better experience with this one unless you’re willing to accept any trash pieces just to have the set.
@christopherandersen714
@christopherandersen714 2 ай бұрын
@dinvsl for sure, but same could be said for bravery set as there is no solo queue. Took me 4 months of avg 15 pyro kills a day to get a double gold slayer sensor. I got on the Yujin train and got an adequate sonic set healing and should be easier now glut has been nerfed. It's clearly designed for Luna and curious how it compares.
@passionsv.2
@passionsv.2 2 ай бұрын
luna one of the best characters to make your team rage quit. Her songs always glitch my screen and I can’t aim
@stoutcoffee493
@stoutcoffee493 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the in depth look at luna. An Aggresive Melody Luna makes me wonder if she and a Firearm Enhancer Enzo can give a substantial combo to a pair of gun Gleys. On an unrelated note, do you happen to play an ult bunny with a supernova set and a peace maker equipped? I always get excited seeing another bunny running around with a peace maker.
@KamikaziMantra
@KamikaziMantra 2 ай бұрын
You are absolutely goated Vash. There's so much to this game and you've been my reliable resource for how things actually work instead of community yapping.
@ashrevenger7183
@ashrevenger7183 2 ай бұрын
i was waiting for this shit for so long
@DonPetexX
@DonPetexX 2 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on hungry sonic for her, would it better for dungeons because you need to ramp it up?
@dasadasadmana1791
@dasadasadmana1791 2 ай бұрын
Ah the one resource I'll never be able to grind friends...
@stephenzajonc4766
@stephenzajonc4766 2 ай бұрын
You shouldn’t need an advanced MIT degree to understand a character.
@MMTrapsYT
@MMTrapsYT 2 ай бұрын
Lol, she is simple. He is going over why she is good, she buffs if you have mad skills.
@ImEcchi
@ImEcchi 2 ай бұрын
She isn’t complicated, are you just retarded? You press skill and shoot on the notes. That’s literally it. Your 30 second attention span tiktard brain can’t handle it so they gotta rework it. I’ve seen way more complicated rhythm based interactions and characters and this is not hard. You’re just a dumbass.
@sebastian_blair6685
@sebastian_blair6685 2 ай бұрын
Still complicated vs everything else
@theprancingrat
@theprancingrat 2 ай бұрын
It's not really that complicated it's just a lot of information to take in because of the different things Luna can do.
@sebastian_blair6685
@sebastian_blair6685 2 ай бұрын
Idk it just so confusing for me I guess every time I do it just never works correctly ive watched to many guides but can't do it yet I can grind get and do anything in this game and destiny or any raid or puzzle and all endgame content gets destroyed but this confuses the f out of me lol
@7475webb
@7475webb 2 ай бұрын
Luna is only good for mobbing cause of pugs if you can find a good team then she shines mine is only running noise surge and i don't see me changing her any time soon.
@Qballiz2kool
@Qballiz2kool 2 ай бұрын
Yea, her buffs are VERY strong, but it’s a nightmare trying to do stuff like Deathstalker or any other colossus with her because of the rng of what ppl are using, about the only Colossus you can consistently know what build the majority of people are going to be running is Gluttony, but EVEN then she’s just not really needed for that fight, same with Death Stalker, her buffs are nice in that fight too but they just aren’t needed. That’s a big frustration with trying to play support Luna in most content. (I have 16 catalysts into the character, and I LOVE playing her, but man it’s a headache to do pubs Colossi with her, and the Xbox LFG is basically dead so it’s REALLY difficult to join dedicated groups.) Trying to do any content with her utilizing her support build is just a complete coin toss, it’s either you will actually be a benefit (of course this depends on your teammates on if their actually going to stay relatively nearby to receive your buffs.) or your going to be a detriment because you came in with the wrong Ascendant module (like joining 4 Enzo’s with nimble fingers.) it’s just unnecessary frustrating. I’m thinking I’ll put her down till her rework, either that or just run Noise Surge Luna for the time being. (That one isn’t much better, but at least it’s not so heavily dependent on what your teammates are doing.) Love Luna allot but she needs a lot of work. (She also has a lot of unnecessary drawbacks and is the ONLY character in the game that can actively mess up her skills, and the minigame can get very distracting/be overwhelming to manage at times.)
@silverdollar-k4z
@silverdollar-k4z 2 ай бұрын
"allot" is not a word. It's "a lot". ty
@Qballiz2kool
@Qballiz2kool 2 ай бұрын
@@silverdollar-k4zedited. Now do you have anything constructive to say about the actual subject of the original comment?.
@silverdollar-k4z
@silverdollar-k4z 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it sounds like you made "a lot" of great points, even though I don't use her atm. If I did, something tells me I would re-read your pros and cons. Gj, even though you didn't thank me for the grammatical correcrion. You're a lot of fun anyway.
@MOTH-Machine
@MOTH-Machine 2 ай бұрын
@@silverdollar-k4zOnly on the internet can I see stuff like this... The absolute irony lmao.
@dinvsl
@dinvsl 2 ай бұрын
Noise Surge is great actually. I made a quite strong non-crit. build with huge aura and good survivability and her AoE is like lawn mower. She is second to the broken Freyna for mob clearing. And it’s much more fun to play her that way instead of support for boss fights, where she may be useless if not matched with specific characters.
@TrapNerdRob
@TrapNerdRob 2 ай бұрын
Nice vid luna is slept on heavily i hope you do sharen next because shes even more slept on & have done over 10 mil in 1 swipe of her sword but most say she useless just like luna
@isaaclee1964
@isaaclee1964 2 ай бұрын
Soooo do or don't add aggressive melody here? Also, no thoughts on Hungry Sonic components? Growing tired of the same annihilation/slayer sets :') but i get it.
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 2 ай бұрын
Well aggressive doesn't buff skills and base doesn't buff guns. So you tell me when you should or should not use it
@isaaclee1964
@isaaclee1964 2 ай бұрын
@ Im stupid 🥲😂 I read the mod after commenting lol Tis why I watch your videos to be explained to like a 5th grader 🥹😂 I’m waiting on the gun builds finally!
@telwizorek_tv
@telwizorek_tv 2 ай бұрын
I think I missed something. Should I use the Aggressive Melody mod for the Freyna buffer build?
@lunar69666
@lunar69666 2 ай бұрын
if its a freyna you know they should be crit and you should be nimble if its a rando use aggressive cause chances are they are non crit
@Twizzler300
@Twizzler300 Ай бұрын
Crit esiemo will be eating good sommy.
@blindfreek
@blindfreek 17 күн бұрын
Great Video, Thanks! We are able to apply a buff then come out of our Q and the buff will remain for its allotted time? Sort of stance dancing to apply buffs and do damage when the time is right?
@MM-qr9vq
@MM-qr9vq 2 ай бұрын
Octavia?
@TheSVERguy
@TheSVERguy 2 ай бұрын
How do you feel about the Hungry Sonic Set? Seems overly complicated and really not worth it.
@lunar69666
@lunar69666 2 ай бұрын
it's a trap mainly for noise surge and its still garbage
@wootdoo
@wootdoo Ай бұрын
They need to improve the music timing with the notes and maybe once shes amped up, her rhythm combo gets harder
@GTRSniper1
@GTRSniper1 2 ай бұрын
Vash, love your content. Are you going to be doing gun builds? Would be interesting for you to do say the top 5 weapons and who they integrate with ie Freyna and the secret garden. Showing the damage difference with or without the weapon.
@alanjackson1568
@alanjackson1568 Ай бұрын
Freyna does not have any gun damage buffs does she? Eseimo, and Lepic (with gun buff mod) should be best with secret garden no? Edit: I mean, should do the most damage with the secret garden itself.
@GTRSniper1
@GTRSniper1 Ай бұрын
Not as such but his builds are spot so gun builds would be good. Not for damage with freyna as such but for instance secret garden gives buffs to skills.
@thegreenshujaa254
@thegreenshujaa254 2 ай бұрын
Did they just finish deathstalker under 40 seconds ?
@Rem_my_Waifu
@Rem_my_Waifu Ай бұрын
I NEED a ultimate sharon build from Vash. Please bless me with it soon!
@delta9324
@delta9324 2 ай бұрын
Until they fix two luna player double buff overlapping the stronger with the weaker one, i won't even touch the chick. Even if you tryhard enough to get the buffs, you also need a reliable. Once you see another Luna casting... abort to Albion.
@momo732306
@momo732306 2 ай бұрын
They're bullying her. (death stalker) 😢😢
@Comeback180
@Comeback180 Ай бұрын
Do u have a Valby or Blair video coming up or your waiting for the descendant balance changes to come on next Thurs season 2 update.
@manih5393
@manih5393 2 ай бұрын
Bro cooked...
@Graplevader
@Graplevader 2 ай бұрын
Does nimble footsteps have any negative effects? It seems like pure upside from tooltips as long as you have energy for it.
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 2 ай бұрын
Correct
@ânhoang-k2u
@ânhoang-k2u Ай бұрын
This makes me wanna build Luna, but i dont have a friend to do these specific tailor builds...
@BoogiePop-Dance
@BoogiePop-Dance 2 ай бұрын
Let’s goooooooo (been waiting for this vid)
@admiralomega
@admiralomega Ай бұрын
So, why no range on the luna builds?
@thewisecarrot
@thewisecarrot Ай бұрын
9:00 WOW!
@rsmrichy00
@rsmrichy00 2 ай бұрын
Luna (in my eyes) has surpassed Gley in terms of being the most complicated Descendant in the game
@John_Dun
@John_Dun Ай бұрын
i wanted to play luna but the mini game broke me i just can't do it
@BigDebow
@BigDebow Ай бұрын
So how is Luna by herself
@Idekbruh13
@Idekbruh13 2 ай бұрын
Do you think you can release a fix your valby video next
@lucasfalco7655
@lucasfalco7655 Ай бұрын
I don't wanna be that guy but what about Noise Surge build?
@Rasomphony
@Rasomphony Ай бұрын
I'm on the fence about Arche Concretion. On one hand the MP values are insane, but the reduction in movement speed feels massive if you're not on nimble build making strafe dodging way more difficult. I also don't know if the ten stack bonus you get applies before or after the calculations for when you buff your team. For example... If I press Red, Blue, Purple, Auto, then enhance- is my skill going to give my team a 1.3x (3) buff (no 10 stack enhance count) or a 1.3x (13) buff? (With ten stack enhance count). If anyone knows I'd appreciate being told. I just started playing a week ago, and the game isn't very forthcoming with feedback.
@melonbread4269
@melonbread4269 2 ай бұрын
Should've made her rhythm game like BPM: Bullets Per Minute (Not opposed to making it more convenient though). Make the notes actually in line with the song/beat and just have the notes be consistent with the bpm of the song. Have each song be different bpm for "variety" if needed.
@Nimoot
@Nimoot 2 ай бұрын
There are times I feel like I'm an awesome gamer .... And then you post a video and I feel dumb again... lol 🙂
@turbo012
@turbo012 2 ай бұрын
Also why no cat on thumbnail 😢
@hexerin
@hexerin 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. As a Luna main, I already knew most of what was discussed, but I still learned a few things (such as the tooltip’s wrong values). I do seek clarification on something though. Regarding skill critical rate, is your most recent video about critical resist (2 months ago on Sep 14) still accurate?
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 2 ай бұрын
Ye that vid is still right. Some of the values have changed since then which is why at the time I mentioned I'd keep up on it on the website, but how the values are calculated or applied has not changed since then.
@hexerin
@hexerin 2 ай бұрын
@ Cool, thanks!
@Jinguuji-san
@Jinguuji-san 2 ай бұрын
The God has spoken!
@jordankibbee3441
@jordankibbee3441 Ай бұрын
So we probably don't need yujin if we can buff dps that much sounds like she's great
@UAE1712
@UAE1712 Ай бұрын
Where sharen build?
@flaschHD
@flaschHD 2 ай бұрын
does this work with bunny: if we ever get a elec weak, skill dmg, boss, is it possible to go luna + crit bunny?
@Stepful007
@Stepful007 2 ай бұрын
Does luna buffs stack with other lunas or no?
@Qballiz2kool
@Qballiz2kool 2 ай бұрын
No
@delxiv
@delxiv 2 ай бұрын
I think the higher stats skill overwrites and is used
@EpicRivers1
@EpicRivers1 2 ай бұрын
He's just trolling with the Noise Surge thing lol. People get mad so easy. Noise surge is fun in dungeons.
@kararalhilaly5415
@kararalhilaly5415 2 ай бұрын
I know I'm gonna hate watching this. But still
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 2 ай бұрын
literally what I said when I started testing her lmao. It's worth learning about if nothing else
@CuzzieGaming
@CuzzieGaming 2 ай бұрын
Luna desperately needs a rework # .LET.LUNA.FIRE.HER.WEAPONS.WHEN.USING.BUFFS!!!!!!! Also let her buff both weapon and skill DMG at same time
@crispyco6277
@crispyco6277 Ай бұрын
I doubt anybody care that much, but if u could do a Ajax build guide that would be sick! :D
@xlK4RMAlx
@xlK4RMAlx 2 ай бұрын
Why the cooldown though? It’s not affected by Lunas cooldowns… it’s static at 8 seconds for her 2 and 12 for the 3. It only affects her 1.
@lunar69666
@lunar69666 2 ай бұрын
theres no cooldown the site has it labeled wrong
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 2 ай бұрын
It's not mislabeled, MP accel is a "cooldown" category mod, but that doesn't mean it gives cooldown.
@xlK4RMAlx
@xlK4RMAlx 2 ай бұрын
@@VashCowaii then I’m confused. What does it exactly gives then?
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 2 ай бұрын
@@xlK4RMAlx literally, watch the video
@The_Cholosseum
@The_Cholosseum 2 ай бұрын
I think ppl don't really know what "strongest" means anymore. Then again, ppl are using it wrong. She actually relies on her team to be coordinated just like the skil based characters rely on a Luna to dish out good skill damage. Same with Enzo except its just firearms. Dislike for no cat in the thumbnail
@Death_by_Kim_Yoohyeon
@Death_by_Kim_Yoohyeon 2 ай бұрын
I don't care how strong she is ( and she is ) , her trash gameplay/mechanic is enough for me to have had min maxed her for Rank and then literally deleting her
@razorgothic2201
@razorgothic2201 2 ай бұрын
Her skills are pretty much useless to me as i can't play the mini game and fight properly at the same time. So i just use her as a defensive gun platform hiding behind the freyna's and bunnies while in a dungeon.
@axpekt_
@axpekt_ 2 ай бұрын
For those of you saying that she’s too hard there’s plenty of brain dead characters for you to play. Just because she isn’t one that don’t mean you need to turn her into another one. People that actually enjoy the character like her the way she is maybe her notes could be a little more on beat but other than that, we’re fine over here. Stay over there.
@VashCowaii
@VashCowaii 2 ай бұрын
No ty.
@axpekt_
@axpekt_ 2 ай бұрын
@@VashCowaii wait a minute so you don’t like the way she is? I just want to beat that be more on par and I’m fine.
@JHemp12
@JHemp12 2 ай бұрын
Did not know aggressive melody added to base firearm crit damage, thats actually insane. Good stuff!
@dinvsl
@dinvsl 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, very insane if the matchmaking pairs you with Haileys and Lepics who exclusively rely on their skill power, not weapons. LOL
@G_Moos
@G_Moos 2 ай бұрын
They will destroy their game with all the simplification
@1Raheem
@1Raheem 2 ай бұрын
Thank god
@Ergospheres
@Ergospheres 2 ай бұрын
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