Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S3:E14

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Greg Salazar

Greg Salazar

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@Santeri324
@Santeri324 2 жыл бұрын
90% chance the board was bricked while updating. I think it's good for your channel to invest in bios flashing tool, you could revive some older mobos that are not easy to replace also good content
@hefty8876
@hefty8876 Жыл бұрын
100% agree. At the little pc repair shop I work at we invested in one and have been able to bring back bricked boards with very little effort. Super useful tool to have.
@johntet
@johntet Жыл бұрын
Even though it's 8/10 cpu , 2/10 mobo on this series , it's inexpensive enough to be worth it. Unless board manufacturers send him enough freebie mobos to not have to bother with bios.
@nocturnalcockroach
@nocturnalcockroach 2 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest watching one of Adamant IT's video's he has up where he deliberately cuts power during a bios flash to show what happens, and then how to go about removing the Bios chip and reprogramming it. It may sound difficult, but it's really not, you can get clips that attach to the chip so you don't have to remove it, but they are hit and miss, removing the chip and using a bios programmer (which are very cheap) and the correct software will at least show you why the bios failed (you'll be able to compare the bios with a working one and see the differences) and you can easily flash the right bios and re-solder the chip. There probably isn't a hardware failure in the chip at all, this board can be saved with a little bit of work. Even if you don't intend to do Bios programming at any point, learning about how it's done, and doing it once or twice will save you a lot of headaches in the future if this happens on a high end board that you'd rather not lose.
@ShashankKR
@ShashankKR 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, highly recommend watching Adamant IT.
@bigjoeangel
@bigjoeangel 2 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it, I endorse this message.
@mercflf8
@mercflf8 2 жыл бұрын
i don't see greg going that deep into fixing a rig and you cant blame him...he is only working with what he has on hand and his time...
@daviddebroux4708
@daviddebroux4708 2 жыл бұрын
Intriguing. Thanks for the recommendation.
@travis1418
@travis1418 2 жыл бұрын
I fix computers all day and I still find myself watching all your videos, helps me learn new things to keep a eye out for or just new ways to tackle things I’ve ran into before. Love the content man, keep it coming.
@troyizzo7907
@troyizzo7907 29 күн бұрын
Greg's videos are a great tool to learn from. There's like a million reasons for a no post bit its fun to see which reasons are to blame.
@hallas23
@hallas23 2 жыл бұрын
It was very bizarre for me as well. By far my most frustrating cpu problem I’ve had to deal with. Thank you so much for doing this. Booted up great first try.
@PCNinja777
@PCNinja777 2 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I had your patience. Seems the older I get "lets just say well over a half a century" the more of that seems to fade away. Well Done! & thanks for allowing me to learn with you. 👍
@SwampFox178
@SwampFox178 2 жыл бұрын
Yesss! Just what I needed to top off a wonderful day! Thanks Greg for the amazing content
@GregSalazar
@GregSalazar 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the continued support!
@Mitchel-Gaming
@Mitchel-Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregSalazar Bios chips are verry cheap from Aliexpress.
@duellegend71
@duellegend71 2 жыл бұрын
Man you and tronics fix are my favorite tech KZbinrs , you guys would make an amazing team you diagnose the failed components and he goes in and replaces them ! Dream team !
@brainiac9579
@brainiac9579 2 жыл бұрын
I really, really like this series! Also, I want to thank you for what you’re doing to your community! I’m pretty sure this is a corrupted BIOS issue. When it happens, the MB will do all sorts of weird things and you cannot trust any debug information it will give you. My programmer has an in-circuit adapter and cost me ~80$. You could also buy preprogrammed BIOS chips, but you would need to swap it, solder it on the MB. It’s for you to decide how far you really want to go, since you have sponsors (maybe they could offer that service to you?). Keep the videos coming!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 2 жыл бұрын
When your cooler is worth more than your GPU.
@TheCaretaker555
@TheCaretaker555 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is unique in the fact that you are the only KZbinr (I think) that hosts videos containing viewers PC's and try to fix them.....i love it i think you will hit the 1 million sub mark by summer at this rate if not before .......
@lesabre1972
@lesabre1972 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say thank you Greg your show is a great tool to use if there are problems and great ways to diagnose which is 90% of the job done right there. Being a mechanic as I am is the same if you can not diagnose you are not a mechanic just a parts replacer. Your a good man and hope nobody has anything to say about that because they will be wrong.
@BuildsByEli
@BuildsByEli 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Any PCDC episodes coming soon? 👀
@GregSalazar
@GregSalazar 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, one soon!
@hillardbishop8755
@hillardbishop8755 2 жыл бұрын
@Greg Salazar You always "look a fool on camera" but don't worry about it. Enjoy "learning with you." Thanks for the great Fix or Flop series. Really enjoy walking through the process with you. As always Well Done!
@shady4422
@shady4422 2 жыл бұрын
@ 13:29 just to the right of the cpu socket appears to be a scratch possibly from mounting or unmounting the cpu cooler maybe there is a trace or two broken.
@rustybobdotca
@rustybobdotca 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well
@Rez_97
@Rez_97 2 жыл бұрын
Can something as simple as a scratch cause that?
@hokkaidowolf3
@hokkaidowolf3 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rez_97 would not surprise me if it did....
@TheMizzle88
@TheMizzle88 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Good eye.
@rustybobdotca
@rustybobdotca 2 жыл бұрын
It does look like they trace is running towards the memory, so I'd definitely say they could be the cause of the problem
@JordanK
@JordanK 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite series on YT. Keep it up
@steveg7368
@steveg7368 Жыл бұрын
Greg triumphs again, never doubted you would'nt ! Still enjoy watching and learning from your antics, Cheers dude.
@GregSalazar
@GregSalazar Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support Steve :)
@juniormathisen
@juniormathisen 2 жыл бұрын
Fix or flop is back on the menu!! Looks like 2023 is going to be a good year. Let the playlist be full and the fix out weigh the flop.! Perfect way to finish off the day before bed. Thanks for the great content.
@njsurf1973
@njsurf1973 2 жыл бұрын
Would you ever try and use something like a ch341a programmer to try and reflash the bios?
@gehummel5756
@gehummel5756 2 жыл бұрын
i am also curious about this
@Appri
@Appri 2 жыл бұрын
think of it this way. Greg is not a actual repairsman, Greg is someone who troubleshoots lego rigs. Bios reflashing is more like fixing the individual lego pieces, while greg just swaps out lego pieces to fix the final product.
@SuperDavidEF
@SuperDavidEF 2 жыл бұрын
He acknowledges in the video that those exist and says he might try using one in the future to salvage the board.
@gn2
@gn2 2 жыл бұрын
I have done this. It's not difficult. And the programmer was less than $20. If you have a mobo you want to save, and its out of warranty, I think its worthwhile to use a ch341a programmer.
@weedthepeople2795
@weedthepeople2795 2 жыл бұрын
@@Appri lol Lego rigs
@esbenrasmussen4289
@esbenrasmussen4289 2 жыл бұрын
Ebay sellers have preprogrammed bios chips for cheap. I ordered 3 latest revisions pre flashed for a X79 MOBO. These 8 pin chips are pretty easy to remove and replace. Did my first soldering on one to fix a Samsung TV.
@shetho1
@shetho1 2 жыл бұрын
Finally another fix and flop pc video keep them coming
@shetho1
@shetho1 2 жыл бұрын
These are my favourite videos i could watch them all day
@timeverhartofficial
@timeverhartofficial 2 жыл бұрын
I had same issue with the MSI board i have. Went to Update Bios in the MSI app it shut down and would not boot back up no post. I got lucky and used Flash back about 5x and finally got it back to posting. MSI is really weird I normally use ASUS.
@piecingtogethergamingpcs
@piecingtogethergamingpcs 2 жыл бұрын
I think you did great man, you took all the steps I would have taken in the same situation, in exactly the same order. thumbs up
@Illiminator31
@Illiminator31 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, I have an MSI MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI in my Rig with the same issue sometimes. No Boot and stuck on a white DRAM Led. This is a Bug with the Firmware of some MSI Boards apparently, even reinstalling does not fix it. I sometimes have to Hard Power down and then Power on my System 3-4 Times to get it booting. I swapped everything (Ram, CPU, Storage etc.) and even reinstalled the Bios a few times. So chances are that when you power on / off the Board a few times it will boot in your case too. Oh, and it has to be done with not much time between the Power cycles, I don't know why, but if u wait like 10-15 minutes between them, it will just keep getting stuck on the DRAM Led.
@markbayhon
@markbayhon 2 жыл бұрын
I had the almost same experience, what happened I think was the uneven pressure of the cooler, I was using a cooler with four points to screw and it looks like I have over tighten the one or two screw. It now only working on single channel on the right most DIMM slots :). For now I stopped using the old style cooler with four points of screw and not over tightening them.
@nbrowser
@nbrowser 2 жыл бұрын
My non-existant OCD wasn't tripped with the upside down Noctua cooler...but that Thermaltake PSU sure hell aggravated me!
@FantomMisfit
@FantomMisfit Ай бұрын
Would rather have seen a cheap cooler than a cheap PSU. Although that PSU is far from the worst I've seen. I've seen PSUs that didn't have any kind of certification whatsoever. This one at least is 80+ White
@dutchguy1975
@dutchguy1975 2 жыл бұрын
at 13:40 you see a damaged/exposed trace on the right side of the socket, at first I thought it was a smudge but it follows the trace too perfectly. Where the upside down Noctua cooler triggered your OCD, for me the most triggering part is the ketchup&mustard cables of the PSU.
@GregSalazar
@GregSalazar 2 жыл бұрын
That was thermal paste IIRC. It was not a scratch.
@dannydanko4627
@dannydanko4627 2 жыл бұрын
Never get tired of seeing the giant noctua coolers, ive had the nhu14s in my main rig for years and 0 complaints! Might swap it for a newer black one soon.
@Rez_nick
@Rez_nick Жыл бұрын
@@missterious69 You 100% used the wrong screws on the MB/Case. Or maybe you didn't tighten the cooler evenly and that caused a lot of pressure on the MB over time, since only one side was really carrying all the weight.
@scho45
@scho45 2 жыл бұрын
Had an AMD MSI mortar board similar to this and it had the same exact issue. DRAM debug LED was stuck on. Couldn't even use the flashbk button. Luckily the board still had a warranty and was repaired by an MSI shop.
@TheRogozvlad
@TheRogozvlad 2 жыл бұрын
Greg your video came just in time and saved me threwing away a good motherboard. The computer want posting and after conecting the 2 jumper pins the computer it's back runing . Thanks man !
@FutureCanSnipe
@FutureCanSnipe 2 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same issue with an msi mag b550 board a couple years ago. Happened right after attempting to update bios. I ended up replacing the board but a few months later was curious and used the bios flashback on the board to install a different bios version and sure enough it worked.
@FGSTH
@FGSTH 2 жыл бұрын
13:58 There is a scratch there between the cpu socket and the ram slots, maybe that's the problem?
@Taykeith1544
@Taykeith1544 2 жыл бұрын
The best category on KZbin!!!
@marvelousmarvin5961
@marvelousmarvin5961 2 жыл бұрын
Just built my first pc a few weeks ago. Your vids made me anxious lol but informed me enough to double check my steps when it didn’t power on and I eventually got it.
@NYCamper62
@NYCamper62 2 жыл бұрын
The ketchup & mustard cables are jazzing my cdo. Enjoyed the video, cheers.
@antoniom.andersen6704
@antoniom.andersen6704 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid and nice that you had a board kicking around you could use. Maybe try getting one of those BIOS flashers with a small clip. Saw Hardware Haven do something with one of those on 3 small Ryzen PCs. Who knows, you could get lucky with the board and seeing as you like PCs and hardware in general, I mean fixing a fridge... that's kinda next level, maybe it could be fun to try.
@bandit6048
@bandit6048 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Greg. Keep 'em coming cause I'm learning alot! Oh BTW, the PassMark Inline PSU Tester is a bit spendy for me :) At $590 I guess it';s intended to sell to shops.
@milescarter7803
@milescarter7803 2 жыл бұрын
I have that exact same case! I got it for $20 on FB/CL (I forget). Beautiful case. I took the power button out to fit a 20mm fill port for a custom loop. I just used the RGB button for a power button. It has room for a 360mm radiator, but terrible airflow. So I grabbed a $5 "rain gutter mesh" from the hardware store and bolted it on instead. Ao much better. What a fail of a front panel, sooo close and then dropped it. The glass is on with adhesive, so leave it on your car dash in the summer and it will soften, or use a heatgun, soak it in rubbing alcohol. Or just leave that side alone and only do the metal side (it unscrews) pics:
@milescarter7803
@milescarter7803 2 жыл бұрын
Pics got eaten by the comment sanitizer, just Google gutter mesh and your favorite big box home improvement store. Should be $4-5. My pictures are up on small form factor . 🥅
@beachuk2000
@beachuk2000 2 жыл бұрын
nice work and that board looks so good as a combo
@terminasitor769
@terminasitor769 2 жыл бұрын
I have been in a similar situation myself... Some years back I wanted to overclock my locked Skylake CPU using a sketchy bios and needless to say I completely bricked my z170 board... Thankfully though It had a detachable bios chip so a few weeks later I got my PC working again. Fun fact! I learned nothing and tried the bios flash again and it worked! Got my locked i5 6600 to 4.5 GHz!
@JerameatC
@JerameatC 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish they would make bios chips removable. I know they used to but id love to see it come back.
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on the fix. Nice video as well.
@gordonneverdies
@gordonneverdies 2 жыл бұрын
I had to troubleshoot my main rig this past weekend and it made me think of your series. I got a new mobo but it ended up being the CPU. I also was getting a flashing red light on my GPU which indicated a PSU problem. It was exhausting but I finally got it working properly and with better temps than before. I fried it running Prime 95.
@NoahPlayzVR
@NoahPlayzVR 2 жыл бұрын
When I built my friends PC, his PC wouldn’t post and the dram light was on. Turns out the issue was the HD_AUDIO connector from the case! Very odd right?
@izhanshafiq324
@izhanshafiq324 2 жыл бұрын
Some boards do come with dual bios. My gigabyte H61M bios somehow got corrupted and had to force switch to other bios to get to boot screen
@tracyr5594
@tracyr5594 2 жыл бұрын
funny watching these videos and your hair is shorter compared to newer videos. Always love these gregs. more unprompted the better. We like seeing the struggle
@johno9163
@johno9163 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Greg! A great way to start the New Year!
@chriviper
@chriviper 2 жыл бұрын
Did you try the updating the bios with M-Flash from a usb pen?
@mgut17
@mgut17 2 жыл бұрын
i have the exact motherboard and there have been problems with that one, even my nas server have had problem if i tried to change some setting in that so i have had to revert to old setting, using a 10400 in that rig
@xxdripgod5804
@xxdripgod5804 2 жыл бұрын
Ay i have a question do you know how to fix the blue screen of death eror code wdf violation I need help I been trying to find help but no one knows or helps I need help on how to get out of it
@ominae1
@ominae1 2 жыл бұрын
You should buy some cheap celerons for every Intel gen. To have testing CPUs in the future.
@Aecrim1
@Aecrim1 2 жыл бұрын
Not the celeron, they don't work on some sockets lmao. but yes, some cheap CPUs only for testing for each socket
@plusrunning
@plusrunning 2 жыл бұрын
I had this similar issue, mine was the motherboard, it was throwing DRAM and VGA errors. It became obvious when there was a permanent buzz in the speaker soon after diag. New board and CPU for good measure and its good to go
@benjaminbiller1387
@benjaminbiller1387 2 жыл бұрын
I know with a Cooler like that, I add a fan in the back to help move air out of the system even with a rear fan in the system. That can help keep the air from having issues going from A to B. Also, most of these coolers want at least two fans, one in the middle and usually one in the front, but if you really don't have enough clearance from the memory, the back is a good option. As others have noted, sometimes you can have the front fan a little higher to deal with clearance issues without affecting airflow too much (that third fan can still be useful, may even let you run a little quieter due to how the airflow ends up). For those thinking to add a third fan on something like this, go with what was used on the front. Most coolers will tell you what model fan they are using for that front fan.
@DecentDanny
@DecentDanny 2 жыл бұрын
On the back of the motherboard in the correct slot flash the latest bios with a USB stick and keep the battery out until its installed , i had the same problem when trying to update my motherboard.. It did take me a while to find the right software and format the USB stick so it could read it but it now works fine :)
@gmoney0505
@gmoney0505 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed his ram is 3600 c18. I had a problem after a whole my computer started to blue screen, crash, and would not boot until remove and reinsert the ram with those same sticks. I even could not enable xmp on the board. DRAM light was on mine as well. I would try with a c16 3200. That fixed my problems and i can enable xmp with no problems. I would try that as a suggestion.
@wayneknight2121
@wayneknight2121 2 жыл бұрын
Personally Greg, I like the way you are fixing systems right now because I'm 100% sure that most people, myself included, DON'T have the tools required to change or test bad components on a circuit bord. Although it's interesting to watch someone change those components, I think it's way beyond the average power user's ability to do that. If I had a component go bad I would troubleshoot it the same way you are doing!
@a1cwingo
@a1cwingo 2 жыл бұрын
When do you normally upload your videos? I always try and watch it when you upload but it never notifies me. Lol. Thanks for all your doing. Love the channel! Also, quick question… was playing destiny last night and computer just, restarted by itself… have a 3070FE, ryzen 7 3700x 124 gig ddr4. 700 watt thermaltake power supply.
@josesarmiento7462
@josesarmiento7462 2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar issue when I wanted to update my MSI B450M. I tried to get into the BIOS update enviroment and it just stayed black and unresponsive, even after several reboots. Lucky enough, poping out the battery and absolutely making sure I drained all power to clear the BIOS worked it back to the normal enviroment. That was scary to say the least. funny that it's the same situation on another MSI board
@nermanus
@nermanus 2 жыл бұрын
We need a third series where you attempt to repair some of the previous failed components that seemed the most repairable. Maybe call it ROTFL (repair or thoroughly fail later?)
@stretchybwoy
@stretchybwoy 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are great, I love watching them. I bought my son a new case and did a straight swap and it turned on for 30 seconds, then black screen and kept rebooting, then nothing but black screen with the vga light on with the dram light flashing every few seconds. I had to strip my pc and test all components and it came down to motherboard or cpu, luckily my mate had a spare board and after testing found out the motherboard failed, I have no idea why I did not take anything off of it I just took it out of the old case and put it in the new case, if it wasn't for these videos I would no idea what was wrong or why, so thanks for the videos.
@JMatrx
@JMatrx 2 жыл бұрын
Greg try this: Download a bios for that motherboard, unpack it into an NTFS usb stick root foldert. Add it to one of the rear usb motherboard slots. Just leave the CPU, 1 stick of ram, boot it up and leave it there. Don't add any drive any keyboard, nothing. If there's anything live left in there, the thing will self flash itself after some time, like within half an hour. I salvaged so many motherboards like this you don't have an idea. Basically any uefi motherboard can do that, if the bios isn't physically corrupt.
@syzuna_
@syzuna_ Жыл бұрын
I know I am quite late to the party but that looks like a scratch at 13:57 that goes through some PCI-Lanes between the CPU and the RAM slots. A friend of mine killed a board the same way while mounting a new AIO by slipping with the screwdriver. But that wouldn't explain the symptoms of it bricking during a BIOS flash or while entering the BIOS flash menu so idk
@scottc791
@scottc791 2 жыл бұрын
I have had a similar situation just happen to my msi x370 gaming pro carbon. my PC was doing a windows update and went to restart and just wouldn't post. similar symptom except it was the VGA debug on, screen completely black, change of ram made no difference, change of gpu no difference. I don't have a CPU or board to check the rest but having seen this video makes me wonder if it is a similar failure
@jardu
@jardu 2 жыл бұрын
I had similar issue with MB. After several hours of testing etc. I tried to downgrade BIOS to previous version and that worked MB is working again.
@shaneeslick
@shaneeslick 2 жыл бұрын
G'day Greg, Hope the owners son was very excited about his Christmas gift & is having lots of fun gaming on it. 🤔I thought this Mobo would have a BIOS FB Button so I was hoping you would do a USB BIOS Flash as from memory we haven't done that in a FoF video, interesting that B450M-Mortar does have the Flashback Button but B460M-Mortar didn't.
@Jules_Diplopia
@Jules_Diplopia 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, mine is a B365m mortar... nice to see it's bigger brother on YT.
@korunius2171
@korunius2171 2 жыл бұрын
If my AIO and fans are all working properly but cpu temp is hitting 100 and throttling frequently but not consistently how should I approach troubleshooting this? after restarting the unit several times it seems to be fine randomly, next start up it'll have issues again.
@kuringmeow1151
@kuringmeow1151 2 жыл бұрын
Im having the same problem, im thinking a motherboard problem. Seems bout right because it was working just fine until its not showing anything on screen. It also beeps that indicates a dram problem.
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it went black after flash or before it even started
@ThatNerdIndy
@ThatNerdIndy 2 жыл бұрын
Try to flash the CMOS chip with an external BIOS Flashing tool. Only costs a few dollars!
@iddan1205
@iddan1205 2 жыл бұрын
My first MB I ever bought had a debug code display, and I never bought a board without some sort of debug indicator. That and side facing sata ports.
@G1Gaming85
@G1Gaming85 2 жыл бұрын
I notice theres a scratch on the right side of the cpu socket and that scratch was on the traces maybe connecting to the memory sockets
@jeffie8696
@jeffie8696 2 жыл бұрын
I recently built myself a backup PC using a Z590 board I got on sale and I must say its an impressive board, an MSI MPG gaming force .
@cstubed
@cstubed 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me when attempted to enter flash mode through bios (Ram led flashing-black screen) on MSI Z690-A Pro Wifi DDR4. Luckily mine was fixed by reducing temporarily ram sticks from 4 to 2. First thing tried that didn't help was CMOS reset.
@DJSolitone
@DJSolitone 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah as many say an EEPROM programmer is the way to go on such a case. Only issue is to get the binary image of the correct bios once it is programmed. The downloadable file you get from the manufacturer website is either encrypted or get "processed" during flashing. So you just cannot directly flash it using an EEPROM programmer. You would need to get your hand on a known working (bootable) image from a working card, from forums or buy a pre-flashed bios EEPROM from Ebay, But if you get your hand on this binary file, the flashing process itself takes about 10 seconds and is super easy.
@mrrobot6137
@mrrobot6137 2 жыл бұрын
Had a kinda similar Problem with a pc we built for a friend. Z690 + 13600k, so we had to do a bios flash. The board supported flashing without stuff on it so we did everything, as gigabyte said it has to be done. The flashing went way to fast, after a dozen seconds or so it signaled to be ready. So that was something weird, as it normally takes some time. Anyway we built everything together just to get rgb and fans spinning but no output, and after like a minute the pc just restarted. The debug leds were always switching between dram and cpu. So we went and checked the ram, and it was working fine, another ram also didn't work. So we messed around and only used one stick, and it just stayed on dram. Gpu was working btw. After we tried everything we just went and sent it back with the cpu, as that could also be the culprit.
@SVT_LIGHTNING
@SVT_LIGHTNING 2 жыл бұрын
The bios updates from msi in the 10th gen is a huge problem still and msi wont do a damn thing about it. I can't link the msi forums of all the confirm cases without my comment being marked as spam but it's been an ongoing issue for over a year now. With hundred upon hundreds of confirmed cases. And msi still wont put out a fix. My z490 tomahawk is effected by it. You try to update the bios and it bricks the board after it restarts with a dram code. The only fix is to buy a programmer for the bios chip which many have done being msi wont help. Being most of the msi z490 and other msi boards don't have bios flash back this is the only fix. It's a very messed up situation still for 10th gen users with msi boards without a bios flash back. I'm glad your video has a pc with the exact issue effecting so many people and hopefully you will see this comment and it can become public and help the people that msi silences and shrugs off like Newegg has done until a famous youtuber calls them out on it. If you go on the msi forums you will see the huge amount of people effected by this and have had to buy new boards or systems or a programmer and other things just to get their systems up and running again. The thread is labeled - "!!! Warning: Z490 boards - problem with recent BIOS updates !!!"
@kikihun9726
@kikihun9726 2 жыл бұрын
If you are buying a bios flasher, get the ch341a v1.7/1.5 version.(one with IR receiver) useing a 5v flasher on a 1.8v chip will kill it. It has a voltage switch for 5, 3.3 ,1.8v.
@RVail623
@RVail623 2 жыл бұрын
There's another bios flash method that involves booting to a DOS prompt from a USB thumb drive (and all other drives disconnected), and then runs a .bat file which automatically flashes the bios, even though there's no video output as it happens. For such a procedure to work, would depend on what portion of the existing bios firmware is still functional. As others have said, the bios chip re-flashing procedure can be seen on several videos posted by the U.K. based KZbinr Adamant_IT. His method involves de-soldering, flashing using a special USB connected programmer device & then re-soldering the bios chip.
@AshtonCoolman
@AshtonCoolman 2 жыл бұрын
It's really important to buy boards that allow updating the BIOS via a button and/or even without the CPU installed. Dual BIOS boards are very good to have as well.
@DavidRuizAlonso
@DavidRuizAlonso 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg i have a similar problem with mi motherboard, and cheeking was the name of the bios file, i change and y for a i and the computer don't post, y change the name of the bios file and update for second time. and the end post. you can try to update.
@AkatsukiLink
@AkatsukiLink 2 жыл бұрын
The same happed to me with my Sabertooth Z170S, couple years ago. One night, I just turned it off and when I powered back on, nothing. So I started to diagnose everything right away by unplugging everything the essential cable and nothing. The CPU LED was on on stock on it.. Well, the CPU socket died, just like that. RMA the board and got a new one. Now that rig is my home servers since I've upgraded while waiting for the board!
@whatjake7898
@whatjake7898 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE the autographed Scorpions album in the back!
@lesabre1972
@lesabre1972 2 жыл бұрын
can you get that piece of fluff off of the trouble shoot LEDs?
@zrkn1
@zrkn1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You also Greg!
@abdulhkeem.alhadhrami
@abdulhkeem.alhadhrami 2 жыл бұрын
an external usb bios flasher would be cool to see how many boards you can save that way.
@KillerTrap
@KillerTrap 2 жыл бұрын
when clearing the cmos should the power cable be unplugged as well?
@SimasMc
@SimasMc 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have a question for you. My pc used to turn on no problem. Now it dos that intermitenly. Sometimes it turns in some not. The fans spin up all the leds light up, motherboard puts out power to usb. But no signal. The ram is teated, psu, gpu are tested too. The only thing i figure is the cpu or motherboard. I have updated the bios. And once it turns on it works just fine, plays games fine etc. Whats your take on it? Have anny suggestions?
@michaelblack5011
@michaelblack5011 2 жыл бұрын
those motherboard my have two bios ? why ditn't tray to run other bios ? for backup
@jakebrown5963
@jakebrown5963 Жыл бұрын
Is there a way you can go in depth on how to upgrade a grafics card I want to upgrade mine but don't see a good video going step by step
@fabrb26
@fabrb26 2 жыл бұрын
Having to double check while diagnose is really something customer tend to take as an insulte, it happen a lot as a car mechanics too. But like you highlighted, IT IS vital to follow a clean organizational chart in order to do a diag.
@timothypatch5080
@timothypatch5080 Жыл бұрын
I have an issue with my computer and monitor entering my Bios and I’m fairly certain it’s the refresh rate I have a Samsung Odyssey G8 so it can toggle between HDMI 1.4 and HDMI 2.1 and you can also toggle between 120 FPS and 240 FPS if I try to enter the BIOS it black screens but I can enter the BIOS on a 60Hz 4k monitor
@Waldherz
@Waldherz Жыл бұрын
the Odyssey G series monitors are all known to have these kinds of issues. Sadly since the original G9.
@harris360
@harris360 2 жыл бұрын
you could have tried flashing with a CH341A bios flasher. had good expierence with that.
@Mopantsu
@Mopantsu 2 жыл бұрын
In the old days we would use a chip puller and switch BIOS while powered up and do a live flash. Then swap back. :)
@izmi2938
@izmi2938 2 жыл бұрын
Is having no CMOS pin reset possible? Idk never check my board have or not it's a OEM board
@MikeOverIP
@MikeOverIP 2 жыл бұрын
You're an inspiration, thank you
@Zorthal
@Zorthal 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg. As part of your trouble shooting, do you ever check to see if the cpu cooler is on too tight ? First time i tried installing a hyper212 my pc would not post until i loosened the mounting screws on the cooler.
@yotoprules9361
@yotoprules9361 2 жыл бұрын
he remounted the cooler when trying his i5 10600k, so yes at some point in the troubleshooting this possibility is eliminated as he does this in all his videos, just a lot of it is cut to shorten the video length.
@Zorthal
@Zorthal 2 жыл бұрын
@@yotoprules9361 I know a lot is done off camera, but I have not heard this mentioned as one of those off camera checks before, hence my asking.
@yotoprules9361
@yotoprules9361 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zorthal he usually takes the entire thing apart then looks at the CPU, CPU socket, etc, so when he's putting it back together he (hopefully) is mounting the cooler properly.
@Zorthal
@Zorthal 2 жыл бұрын
@@yotoprules9361 you're making an assumption
@sidedcolt6282
@sidedcolt6282 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zorthal sure he is but its an accurate one and as we all know greg works on more computers than we are ever gonna get our hands on im 100% sure he knows how to tighten a cpu cooler
@Retrocidal
@Retrocidal 2 жыл бұрын
Yay someone one els likes the blue towels for automotive works great also gun cleaning pads work real good and are clean
@cestlavie1899
@cestlavie1899 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Learned alot aswell :)
@RaphaelSwinkels
@RaphaelSwinkels Жыл бұрын
love your video's, its good content for pc tweakers really nice you are teaching all day ;p
@ryzen397
@ryzen397 2 жыл бұрын
I had this same issue with a new build, ryzen 7900x and gigabyte board. I returned both after a big hassle. d ram light and then cpu light occasionally. would not post.
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