Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S5:E11

[@Edgemaster72]

Forgetting to turn on power strips, not plugging in HDMI, hitting head on the garage door. Gotta love Greg's committment to showing that he's just a regular person like anyone else.

[@gorzius]

Honestly, at this point I'm starting to think they're doing it on purpose for some extra entertainment. xd

[@kappam1184]

@@gorziusno, I also forgot to turn on power and not plugging hdmi 😂

[@jrose-xp6tf]

As a tech myself for over 30 yrs. I can say that protocol is the most valuable tool in the chest, otherwise we're just guessing out of order. Great work, I expect nothing less here.

[@shadowarez1337]

Have no idea how many places use a script and the guys follow it like it's a bible line for line so annoying 🤦‍♂️

[@WhiteG60]

My guess? The video card was shorting 12v->Gnd and putting the power supply into protection mode. When you pulled it out without cycling the power supply's switch, it stayed in protection mode. Once you cut power and flipped it back on, it reset itself and powered right up.

[@raven4k998]

dude pees on his motherboard to get it fixed🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jeffreyparker9396]

It was clearly a short from the beginning and power supplies will typically require the power to be disconnected to reset the short protection so, yes, even fixing the short won't typically power on within first disconnecting the power. This goes for all power supplies with the proper protections.

[@oldtimergaming9514]

I actually had software for a fan controller cause my system to crash hard randomly. Idle or gaming didn't matter, just shut off (had to turn off power supply for 5 sec to get it to startup). Guess it was messing with the interrupts on my motherboard. Had to send those back. Took me a couple days to figure out cause that was a new one on me.

[@harugrin]

Hi Greg, nice video as usual. About the failures turning the system on: if a component - in this case the gpu - has a short, when you start the system with it plugged in, it may trigger psu protections, specially SCP but also OTP, OCC and OVP, that's why you have to remove the component, turn the psu off / on and try again to reset the triggered protection. Peace and long life! 🖖

[@KillerDragonone]

Nice to see the board is still working after the GPU arcing by the PCI-E slot 12:00, would be nice to see you taking it apart to see what is going on there.

[@oldtimergaming9514]

How the hell did you even see that? I had to rewind playback three times before I saw it.

[@Devastator0]

@@oldtimergaming9514 same, I don't know how they saw that. Greg really needs to see this.

[@seeking.eternity]

hmmm i hope it doesn't kill the new gpu in that rig in the future

[@vExtracTz]

I don't think that was any arcing, if you're talking between the PCI-E slot and the board, looks like its a change in lighting when he moves his hand, you can tell as there is a light source before hand then after the "Arcing" you see just black when his hand is over it.

[@KillerDragonone]

@@vExtracTz you could be right, i say the best way to find out is to still take it apart and see for sure.

[@nitt3rz]

Troubleshooting complex multi-layer electronics can be REALLY difficult & confusing. I really like how you keep all the awkward trial & error tries in to show everyone that fixing is all about, 'does this work?' a thousand times until it's the last most weirdest thing you would never think of.

[@JasonChen927]

0:15 Actually I don't think a lot of people have this issue (for PC)... But still very helpful for all electrical devices.

[@myonlylov]

I will never stop watching the fixing videos. thanks

[@kingzilant]

I'm a huge fan, this series has helped me so much, not just learning to troubleshoot but even thru depression and life issues, so thank you. On a positive note tho, thanks to these vids, I recently built a new PC and no picture, all new parts. Knew after a RAM swap that it was a new GPU issue... after using it on a working test bench. Microcenter tested it, broken hdmi port, they swapped it and PC works all good now, thank you x3000. ❤

[@siddhantmanudhane]

These videos are very Informative Keep up with these informative videos Thanks Greg

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks for watching!

[@highsensefn1449]

your content just keep getting better and better mr greg

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

Greg is not just fixing hardware. He's also sending me my fix for his fixing content.

[@HazewinDog]

I'm sorry but do you not have something better to say? You just comment word plays on every TYC and Salazar video, and unfortunately KZbin doesn't allow us to block you... By now this has gone way past being borderline spam, and is just undoubtedly spam. Of course I can't expect you to listen to me, but since there is no way for me to hide your comments, I would certainly appreciate if if you stopped doing this...

[@hman6159]

@@HazewinDogor you could just scroll past his comments lol

[@morelandtech637]

​@@HazewinDogby any chance your real name is Karen?

[@HazewinDog]

@@hman6159 I know, and trust me I am not happy to post such a comment. Ignoring is what I've done for the past years. However, the reason I finally decided to speak up is because it has frankly become too obnoxious for me to ignore. Not only has this continued for years now, but it's become more frequent the past months. Seemingly on every video from Bryan (Tech YES City) and Greg now.

[@milescedras1971]

Bro take it easy. ​@@HazewinDog

[@Sevunteen]

That Alienware PC looks like Darth Vader's tombstone

[@bion4tural]

And him hitting his head onto the garage door seems like an homage to Starwars trooper hitting his head :)

[@cars291]

Heh thats a fun way to see it but flattering in a way

[@philschling]

13:10 I've been using my extra long BeQuiet Screwdriver as a back scratcher for years. It really is awesome.

[@Dr.Gonzz0]

love the videos man. good to see ppl helping others in one shape or form

[@sitordan]

Another great video. I never get tired of watching these.

[@Sparplepluss]

5:19 look at the left side by the pcie slot and just chips in general, you can see where water may have landed in multiple spots. Although they are so perfectly on the chips that it looks purposeful.

[@itsKtoday]

Good job Greg! I've been down that rabbit hole too many times lol. Glad the pc is up and running!

[@RuruFIN]

Well, at least he got a small upgrade and a working PC. Good episode as always, Greg!

[@Cloudykins08]

This was a good video. Have you considered disassembling the faulty GPU and giving it a look over to see if maybe some residual water is still there? Couldn't hurt to check it out and attempt to repair it.

[@ChuckD-lu5mb]

Awesome Work Greg! You are the best. Saludos desde la Isla de Puerto Rico

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks a ton for watching!

[@M_Pingouin]

Great one! Fix or Flop is getting better and better. Love the serie!

[@GregSlimSkinnyParkerMinnesota]

You're a Beamer Boy too! Awesome. It seems that the owner may have been reckless with getting water in an air cooled setup. Nice to see this person doesn't need to reinvest in a new rig and may have learned a valuable lesseon.

[@mr_nacho_taco8942]

Im so glad I watch your videos. I just bought a 4060 (i think?) gpu and when I saw the brand "zotac gaming" i wasnt familiar with it but bought it anyway (3 days ago). So far it works great and now that I see you installing one I can rest assured that you feel confident enough to use it aswell. PS: I almost requested your help diagnosing this PC as I dont live too far from Orlando, but luckily I watch enough of your videos and was able to sort it out myself and fixed it! Thanks Greg! Youre the best!

[@Megaman-Zero-626]

Kept me company during the tornados touching down in my area! Good repair!

[@rickmiller4202]

Another good one, always good info. I see an ForF vid popup, immediate click. Greg's crack to the cranium by a RISING door, was priceless.

[@phogandivephogandive3885]

The HDMI spec also includes copy protection features, so the is some hand shaking protocols that have to pass before it will send video data through the port. If you plug the cable in after the boot process completed, the hand shaking phase has completed unsuccessfully, so no video data is sent, for copy protection reasons.

[@psychorabbitt]

16:11 It was at this point that I thought, "Is that monitor even turned on? Because there's not even like... a glow from the backlight."

[@gamingallday954]

Hey Greg, love the videos, please continue this series i have learned a lot from this.

[@umairchang]

I faced the exact same issue. Gpu short prevented the system from powering on. it also needs a bios reset after removing the short. That's why it worked after removing and reinstalling cmos battery.

[@outlet6989]

Hi Greg, My steps would be to test the wiring using an LED power tester. Place a remote on-off power cable on the MB power pins. It has a remote micro switch and is much safer than using a screwdriver; you only need to connect it once. Whenever the CMOS shows a message that my PC's time is wrong and needs to be corrected, I always change out the CMOS battery and place it in a new one. I always tape a new battery inside my case. I realize my comment was unrelated to this fix, but it's nice to know for a PC problem.

[@Miniputt_999]

That was an interesting problem to be solved, and nice to see that you do that little extra to clean out dust. Also, thats a very nice hardware setup. 2700x + 1660super is good for high 1080p. Looking forward to the next video.

[@pie_stains]

Thanks for the laughs this episode. Such an entertaining series.

[@johnvandeven2188]

It would be interesting to see if there is sediment inside the graphics card which has shorted the board. May as well have a look as this might give you a replacement gpu for an other Fix or Flop episode. I am sure that other viewers like myself find the series interesting and entertaining.

[@MagnumForce51]

I saw some "clean spots" on the backside of that graphics card when you first showed it at 5:20 when you first pulled it out and that was probably the evidence of the water intrusion. The water sometimes may not leave visible corrosion but if the card was previously been a bit dusty from being in a rig for awhile "clean spots" in the dust could indicate areas where water disturbed that dust. ;) Of coarse you might have simply happened to have gripped the card there at some point previously when handling it but I don't know if you had touched that area before showing it.

[@BWGPEI]

Greg - now you know why I have boot devices handy for troubleshooting; I especially like having a Ventoy key with several test and OS options to try. I trust the original MS Windows boot drives not at all.

[@TheIceblade711]

Awesome Greg I think its more the tab shorted out the video card. Check its board Iam pretty sure you will find a burnt out chip. Keep the videos coming always enjoy them.

[@zellar1]

Crazy! I'm watching a MAJOR Golf tourney and this video popped up so now I'm watching 2 screens! Love these Greg video's YEAH Golf and Greg

[@dariogarciacapel7524]

That M2 😍😍😍😍😍 congrats on the car Greg!

[@scubasw]

Always entertaining and informative. Keep it up!

[@TheDeveloper-s8l]

The short powering on and nearly instant powering off of the system is (usually) the short circuit/overcurrent protection of the PSU tripping, which takes either a full restart of the PSU (e.g. switching the switch on it off and on again) or waiting until it resets (If it has tripped, it takes some time to recover, so you can't instantly turn on the system after tripping it) in order to power on again.

[@baoquoc3710]

The moment that he has a G87 M2...it's glorious, though the headbanging he suffered is still funny😂

[@catvoice5336]

You’re wrong Greg. I have a complete hardware garden growing in my backyard 😂

[@catvoice5336]

I have robust hardware trees and beautiful memory bushes, ram flowers and and led trees and i have one gig cpu tree😂

[@grizredford8407]

I get triggered by you keep starting the m/b with the cpu fan off.

[@ozbassman11]

Great job Greg, another informative video!

[@peterlennon1139]

Very surprised knowing your normal diligence that you dived into that non-methodical rabbit hole. But at least you recognised your mistake, acknowledged it and went back around. Nice to see some honesty on a video ❤👍

[@zafert85]

18:51 wow look at you, you finally acquired a proper taste in German Engineering. Finally a BMW

[@qqqvid]

This shows just how hard it can be to fix a computer if it has multiple issues. Great fix Greg : ) x

[@Gorgen2k]

Well i had once spilled orange juice down on my pc and my old asus gtx 670 got it all and in the middle of the backplate where the middle square dint have any blackshield and it hit lots of transistors, but it dint fry the card so i was lucky with that. But at 5:19 when you are looking at the gpu i kinda see a round dark spot up in the upper left corner near a some restiance/chip. Not sure you saw it with your eyes, but the camra clealry can see the round spot with something on it.

[@benroberts2222]

An important note on testing with this board: I own this same motherboard and the lower PCIe slot is an x4 sharing lanes with the M.2 NVME slot. The viewer has a SSD in that M.2 which is supposed to disable the PCIe slot, so connecting the video card to that slot while the SSD was installed shouldn't have been expected to give reliable results. In this case it probably worked out because power is delivered to the slot even if the PCIe lanes aren't up. But if it had worked it wouldn't necessarily mean the upper slot was defective; it still could have been the card.

[@mattwillis4562]

Hey Greg, been catching your videos for about 6 months now and really enjoying the content and really appreciate the $0 cost to the community. I've gotten into doing a lot of new builds for friends and family lately, to the point of needing a much more mobile peripheral setup. I've not run across any time where you've talked a good deal about the tablet you use as a monitor, but I'm thinking that is the perfect thing I need for my situation. Could you be so kind as to post the info on it? Possibly a good link (Amazon, New Egg, etc) where I may pick one up on my own? Thank you for all the fun content!!!

[@Galiant2010]

So, no real question about the video (interesting video) but I'm actually curious about the handheld vacuum/brush thing you used to clean it out at the end. I've considered getting one but they're a little pricey if they don't work well. I assume that if you're using it that it works well enough, but I'm curious to actually hear your feedback on it. Ideally I want something I can use quickly on my front intake on my PC, and swing open the side glass panel without having to pull my PC out of its spot, and maybe something that would work on a keyboard for dusting, too.

[@NonLegitNation2]

16:50 actually a few months ago I though something was wrong with my brand new RTX 4070ti. I was getting the VGA debug LED lighting up with a constant white light and it wouldn't turn off unless I restarted my system. Turns out I was doing it wrong. I was turning on my PC then turning on my TV, which i use as a monitor. My BIOS wasn't detecting the TV because it was off, but i was still getting a video signal. The debug LED turned off when i restarted my PC because my TV was already turned on when the system restarted.

[@vincecooper2672]

Yes, that bent tab on the Display port did short out the Motherboard to Ground.

[@johnstancliff7328]

LOL! Love the video Greg.... I've been down this road several times!

[@Airwave92]

That Bmw m2 peaking out the garage thooo.....Fire

[@frenindeed8713]

@GregSalazar, great video! Do you always suggest updating your BIOS when a new version arrives? Keep making great videos!

[@smashed_penguin]

Yes, but not immediately unless you are having any problems with anything, in case there are any bugs with the newest BIOS. I'd typically wait a week or two just to give any major or minor bugs a chance to be caught and addressed.

[@agustianzafreddy3217]

16:31 The Greatest PC Technician That Ever Live !! 😁😁

[@keithfailmezger1596]

how is your new house coming along? would like to see video update .,thank you for all your hard work and content

[@danmar007]

After watching every series, I've been thinking of getting PSU extension cables. But doesn't the added length make cable management even more of a pain. I have modular PSUs if that makes any difference.

[@samuelrave]

And again another great video! Almost therapeutic to watch :)

[@adamgrant1787]

The bloopers have to be the best part of this video who agrees? LOL

[@EinSwitzer]

even though appearance might make you believe its dry , it is not , thats why i use a preheater for soldering to keep the computer parts hot and for a span of time ,,, then its dry . the pcb can soak up moisture like wood in a skateboard

[@permsn]

Love your work Greg and friends 😊

[@RedFlaggWaving]

Had the exact same symptom with a refurbished graphics card I bought from eBay. Computer refused to turn on with the card connected, and required a power cycle to get it working after removing the defective card

[@Unusual_exe]

the M2 in the garage just sitting there

[@Compscott8]

New drinking game. Every time Greg says "Jank" take a shot.

[@Touhupossu]

First power on after removing graphics card before battery swap didn't work, if something was just blocking old battery's connection to motherboard and swapping it removed something water damage did to battery slot. So ultimately battery swap was the other thing besides gpu swap that fixed it. Maybe?

[@erickrayos]

GPU got water damage, could still be salvaged. try cleaning it out making sure no corrosion on the board exist. had encountered the same thing, just giving it a clean removing corrosion on some parts (very small but still corroded) and it worked again. I cleaned the one I had w/ alcohol and some soft toothbrush making sure every nook and cranny was touched. Worth the try.

[@eross5420]

What do you do with stuff not working? Maybe you should try making a video where you try to fix that stuff with soldering

[@johngangemi1361]

A couple of short circuits will kill a system. Nice video Greg! Raymond's slow clap 😂😂😂😂😂😂.

[@TheAcadianGuy]

Anti-short protection kicks in and will prevent boot for a little while. I suspect the PCIe x16 is shorted or the GPU itself....

[@SuperDave78]

How on earth does a pc get water damaged? Unless it's on the floor when a flood hits, I can't imagine how water could ever come in contact with one. After spending almost £2000 on mine, I get paranoid enough about it getting dusty inside!

[@cooleyzz]

Accidents happen sadly

[@Pasi123]

Leaky roof or a broken water pipe somewhere above the PC, or accidentally spilling water on top of the tower if it's on the floor next to your desk. And of course if you have a water cooler then that could leak too, though the PC in the video was air cooled.

[@sajjadhosseini1987]

I witness that everyday at work! The best one was a dell workstation spilled with a full cup of Latte ! They use them as their Beverage table!

[@nomas4enko]

Kids 😀

[@ForzaE2]

You said his gpu is ok but I can see a big black circle mark and 1 small mark area @5:20. I am not sure if that's something you can have after a longtime use of GPU but it looks odd to me.

[@brandonfulstone7628]

I saw that too

[@Whiteshade]

that is not water damage. thermalpads are leaking oil, it is not conductive.

[@louisglen1653]

I am surprise that you didn't turn down your right sleeve on your shirt because I think you mentioned before that you have OCD.🤣 I don't think I have OCD but I sure can be fussy as though I do at times! Thanks for another great video!

[@starpartyguy5605]

I worked for Millersville University for 32 years (retired). One of the satellite network rooms had the seals break on a window near the network gear. Now, if you want to talk about water damage… Kudos to the network guys. They had replacement gear in place and running in 2 hours.

[@Kane2009]

Would've loved to see you attempt to fix the GPU though, or at least clean it

[@anwa1973]

A few years ago, AsRock must have had a bad batch of batteries. I had some feedback from PCs I built that AsRock motherboards reset the BIOS every time they were turned off after 5 years. But none of these PCs had a problem to Boot. All were helped by a new battery for a few cents.

[@larkreid7960]

I'm glad that I am not the only person who makes bunches of silly little mistakes when troubleshooting computers. I guess we just get stuck in our heads so much while troubleshooting that we forget to do little things.

[@constanciokurdapio541]

I build my own PCs, I came up to issues that I always have to do a hard reset, even unplugging the power cord of the power supply. Unless the cmos battery is shorted, it's a non-issue, can even boot a PC without a battery.

[@vane5736]

would be interested to see if you took apart the gpu to see what shorted out.

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

Any significant importance with the Troy Trojan t-shirt? I grew up south of Troy.

[@knuckleheadcomputers]

Great video as always

[@JaredWayne]

That’s great your head is fine but how is the garage door? Oh and I’m oddly curious about the cpu discrepancy.

[@Trevorodunne]

Taking out the Battery would have reset the bios. after new battery installed you should have checked the XMP profile for memory speed. it would have defaulted to lowest settings.

[@TewaAya]

Oh no, I have the exact same issue of milliseconds of spinning fans. I've sent away my psu for rma but my 3080 might be at fault. It shut down after doing furmark for 5 minutes

[@DinoAlibasic]

Wait Greg... Actually there is an spot on his card, at the back (the part which faces up when its installed) which looks to have been wet, almost like when you clean just one tiny little spot from dust.. could it be that the reason?

[@DanielCardei]

Awesome fix Greg!

[@melsandi1737]

I have leran something today unconventional thanks for that keep it coming

[@jrl8282]

I had the same problem with my system. After I disassembled and gave a alcohol bath to the graphics board,re paisted and reassembled I had the same problem. I switched from the HDMI to the display port and got the post for whatever reason lol

[@zMeul]

highly likely the video card has a dead short on the 12V and the PSU goes into protection and that's why it works after you disconnect the 8pin power and reset the power supply but will not work when only disconnecting 8pin but not resetting the PSU

[@itswoodimf]

Man I wish i was in the area as my pc got similar symptoms for similar reasons tho my water was due to condensation, the pc will only power on without the 8 pin/cpu cable plugged in, with it plugged in it will do what that one did at the start of your testing. The water I found was under the vrm cover, a few of the mosfets were all wet, dried it off but to no avail, not sure which part died.

[@JaZter90]

This series helped me so many times I stopped counting 😅

[@CristovamPeres]

You wasn't able to power on the system while in the case even after removing the gpu is because you didn't power cycled the psu. When it detects a short, it will disarm and rearm only after power cycling using the switch on the back

[@stompmaster]

That helmet hair protected your skull... LOL! 😝

[@Andrew-ky8oc8cq4n]

It would be interesting to send that card to Northwestrepair to see what broke, if it's fixable one of these times.

[@cars291]

That was truly confusing. Would you mind getting back to your standard procedure?

[@GregSalazar]

Standard procedure? To what are you referring? We fixed the rig.

[@cars291]

@@GregSalazar yup but you did have a way to go about it vs just trying stuff as you do now and going back and forth until it works. No offense meant or implemented but it was something I was really impressed with

[@kanightkanievil]

You should save the goof ups for a bloopers reel. LOL!

[@lkira4911]

Great video Greg.

[@MrRayr1953]

Great job Greg.