Fixing Biggest Problem in SnowRunner Improving Vehicles Frames and Suspension

[@GamingWheel]

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[@Savage14563]

If someone could fix trucks becoming ice blocks on any tarmac surface after 20 mph that would be wonderful

[@dragonbutt]

This is the real issue with snowrunner, traction on hard surfaces.

[@Ntunecatu]

Change your tires.

[@Dirkietje8]

​@@Ntunecatu Its not just tires, the engine doesnt like high speed (relatively ofc) and hard surfaces. Just how the game works rn.

[@CommanderRedEXE]

Tires Overhaul Mod by the same dev as this might help, but it'd likely game physics.

[@Messerschmitt_BF_109G_10]

​@@Ntunecatu Not enough. Try something else.

[@7xfrost]

Due to fucked up physics and weight psrsmeters, this still looks ridiculous. Heavy machines look and feel like toys, jumping and accelerating like Hot wheels plastic crap or something. Comparing even to Mudrunner, the predecessor, it's real degradation on the developers side. Nice try to fix at least something on your own, but still. This is no way trucks should behave. No immersion due to initial shittiness of their approach to the whole physics thing. *gone logging in good ol' Mudrunner*

[@lulu111_the_cool]

Yeah like. Trucks that would bend that much would be in a repair shop. Was a good try to fix stuff lamo

[@Viper-CT]

Well it took em about 4 years, FINALLY!!!

[@phantomfire130]

awensome!

[@rbdickson822]

I wish they would fix trucks sliding off the roads even with high way tires in 3rd gear!!!!

[@IG10705]

Why would you use highway tires?

[@arvinveneracion9031]

I get you,,, highway tires advantage should be more grip on tarmac at higher speed,,, but still it is not LOL

[@amandhyani6502]

​@@IG10705because in same maps most of the missions are by road

[@MattiAntsuK]

​@@IG10705 Why would you use OP tires 24/7? It's fun, the challenge where the truck can handle road and mud perfectly.

[@Savage14563]

omg right?? shit is genuinely annoying

[@sgt_kissekatt6686]

This and the fact that most tires dont seem to have just about any traction against rocks, like sure a smooth rock wont give the BEST amount of traction but trying to get a tire to climb a rock without sliding off without momentum is a pain!

[@LokoMotiva477]

the snowrunner developers have already changed the chassis twist of the PLAD, I don't know why they don't do this with all the trucks, it's good that the modders are doing a better job to make this game good

[@jeffreysmith7417]

For PC ONLY! So they aren’t making the game good for everyone. They hardly ever do with stuff like this.

[@LokoMotiva477]

​@@jeffreysmith7417the creator of the mod said he will try to bring it to all platforms, but he doesn't know how to do it

[@jeffreysmith7417]

@@LokoMotiva477 exactly it won’t make it to all platforms because it’s a manual install.

[@EduardSLVRU]

Not every vehicle should have a frame twist. The only vehicles have more frame twist is a regular trucks. Heavy haul or heavy duty trucks barely have any frame twist. Some trucks have double or even trippers frame. So these wouldn’t twist or very little at all.

[@kexcz8276]

Yeah... at making unrealistic chassis stressing... ;)

[@sgt_kissekatt6686]

And proper manual gearboxes with appropriate amount of gears! I wanna be able to change the gears when I see fit, dont know how many times the game decides to upshift, only to stall and downshift into FIRST, making me loose all momentum which at that moment may be crucial.

[@seregaq2876]

просто долби кнопку сцепления, когда понимаешь, что передача может переключиться, момент нажатия можно подгадать по звуку двигателя. пример: при подъеме в гору на 3 передаче грузовик начинает замедляться, нажимаешь сцепление и автомат сам переключит на подходящую передачу не потеряв в инерции и не сделав резкой остановки. это так же помогает и быстрее разогнаться. еще совет трогаться с места с пониженной +, затем переходить на повышенную либо автомат, тогда автомат сразу выдаст 3-4 передачу = более быстрый разгон.

[@bajersilesia5516]

Finally, maybe now it will be harder to get the DMG while driving on the straight road. Thx for video!

[@Howdy_Heavyfoot]

If you read the info its a mod🙄😔cool with mods but some changes should be in the game😁

[@pomosstream3202]

I wish getting damaged on a smooth road by a tiny rock is funny

[@grabssgrabssu1939]

give us real fun and allow us connect trailer to trailer

[@Wintermaste]

Have you ever drove a lorry/truck irl mate? Chassis ca not be that "flexible" like a gum,those bars are holding the entire vehicle mass and mobile parts,plus its structural integrity, if it would be that "flexible " it would tear apart by its own weight, on one hand older lorries/trucks WERE designed to use frame flex as part of the suspension. Newer lorries/trucks ARE NOT, because Too much flex would lead to metal fatigue, broken welds, etc. So the frame is a maintenance part in order to avoid flexing,precisely, so in summary,it is realistic than having vehicles with duck heavy weight do not flex their chassis bars at all, this cam be apllied to ANY kind of vehicle not just lorries/trucks or carsust stop mocking around with this topic ffs

[@Warlock339]

Thank you my dad is a mechanic and frames do not “flex” what does he mean “more realistic” the only realistic thing he’s doing is getting more mechanics mad

[@Theloze]

Go park an old f250 on a hill at an angle so the cab and bed are misaligned then try to open the tailgate.. then come back and tell me frames don't bend and twist like this in real life

[@Warlock339]

@@Thelozeframes do flex but only a little bit, if it flexes too much the frame will stay bent.

[@ian72marian]

@@Warlock339 yeah, everyone knows that steel doesn't flex.

[@Theloze]

@@Warlock339 I'm well aware thanks, the flex shown in this video after modifications would be pretty accurate for real world scenarios if a truck of that size were to drive up a steep enough offset grade..

[@sacr3]

A frame that twists doesn't crack, a stiff frame cracks. A frame that twists keeps its tires on the road, a stiff frame raises tires up. A stiff frame isn't what you want

[@littlerambo]

A soft frame fatigues and breaks welds

[@sacr3]

@littlerambo fatigue only occurs if it bends beyond its straining point, otherwise it can bend back and forth for a very very long time. Simply look at aircraft, the aluminum skin stretches and compresses during every flight, every day, every year and doesn't get replaced or changed for decades. A stiff wing would crack far sooner than a flexible wing would "deform"

[@l0ve131]

the difference is minimal as i can see but its good that modders at lest trying to make the game more realistic. chassis flex is a must have on this game imo

[@brunoturossi]

Realistic what? You really think that a truck can bend the chassis that way IRL?

[@LokoMotiva477]

​@@brunoturossiYes, truck chassis tend to bend a lot, especially if they are overweight

[@josephfuller6229]

​@@LokoMotiva477as if people are actually dumb enough to overload 😂😂😂 SARCASM BTW

[@l0ve131]

@@brunoturossi yes

[@Theloze]

lol yes they bend exactly like this, sometimes more depending on road modulation and load

[@SireDragonChester]

Along with transmission in this game are crap. They so bad, they need be fixed, but dev will never fix it Cus they never driven any real trucks or gone off road. it doesn’t downshift properly like any other car/truck game. Even gta 5 has better transmission. But do agree all vehicles in here feel stiff, unrealistic.

[@288gto7]

Yep the whole drivetrain is soooooooooo bad in this game and after all these years the game overall still has lots of bugs etc

[@SireDragonChester]

@@288gto7 Yeah. They went for cheep/arcade feel and it BREAKS/Ruins the whole game Imo. Have the devs never driven any vehicle? They seem have no idea how Real Life Transmission works. Auto or manual. Bought the game when came out for ps4. Wish I never bought, if they ever fix the transmission. Then it would be whole better game. Because then you could actually get that power to wheel and ground/with better traction. . But as stand now. Transmission/drive train has ruined the game. No reason play it. Haven’t touch it in years. As somebody grew up on small horse farm. My dad was heavy dusty mechanic, so I leaned a lot from him. I’ve had over 25 yrs of driving 2Wheel and 4x4 trucks/tractors and equipment in snow/Blizzard conditions and very wet and muddy conditions in fields. Snow/wind/thunder storms, what ever. Still had chores to do and still had feed the horse. We have 5 acres and still hut cut grass in some area. Some years we could gather enough grass feed our 3 horses. Other years we had buy It. Hell I leaned how drive manual and float a few gears when turned 18 in my dad old 1986, F150 302v8 Ford farm truck with locking hubs. Bo low 1st gear. I think was 5 speed. Thus I was out in field after cropped been done. So farmer that owned that land told us dump horse manure out on his field. That old Ford was farm tractor when first moved their in 90’s. Later we got old 1950’s Ferguson tractor. It was only 2 Wheel driver but had 4 speed with LOW and High and could lock both wheels to spin. So yeah as ex beta tester, ex moderator, small server admin myself. These devs HAVE never been on farm or grew up around big or small trucks. Cus they so clueless.

[@The6Guest]

Hopefully they make this mod for console versions as well.

[@lioneltanjaya9486]

Bro... I think the frames are made of snowrinium, that's why they won't bend or flex

[@MordSchlag]

lol

[@tumate45]

Not a but thing at all, but I guess it's really coded in the game to have rigid trucks. There were a couple of suspension comparison videos to spi tires and there we could see that it's not only the frame, but the wheel movements too and maybe the tires themselfs were softer so the trucks didnt bounce as much, have more grip.

[@eduardoresiopescaenargenti2222]

uno de los peores problemas, es la falta de frenos en los trailers

[@kadiruysal4364]

Before is realistic but after is unrealistic

[@Hydrazine1000]

Where is this flex need based on? How does the in-game behaviour compare to real life flex? The BEFORE in-game footage, especially the red truck, clearly shows some flex, so the debate is not rigid vs flexible, but some flex vs plenty of flex. But how much do actual rigs flex?

[@AlexAugustinex]

Before - Realistic After - Exaggerated.

[@echtsilver]

Even after years, the game is still not optimized. Stuttering on high-end pcs... Crap

[@RomanRdv]

default setting is probably more realistic however for the frame, its unlikely to twist that much without a load and would actually come apart rather quickly if it was able to.

[@masonreppeto882]

This is simply not true lmao.

[@pommespeter420]

As soon as beamng has real mud and sludge I will never give mudrunner/snowrunner another thought. Mudrunner's studio should have continued to focus on developing new game mechanics and not milking its player base. This new knock-off of snowrunner that was recently released just shows how money hungry the studio is. The studio used to attract attention for its in-game mechanics. And today they change a few graphics + a new map and it's a new game for the consoles andys. It's sad what money and attention can do to you, even though you were once able to impress with your technical features.

[@masonreppeto882]

I can't wait for AI because we will get to make our own games and maybe see something really nice show up.

[@pommespeter420]

@@masonreppeto882 xD You sound like someone who thinks Tesla is the future of the car market. A game engine has millions of lines of code. AI will give you a few basic lines of text but the real hard work comes from humans because we set the parameters and know what the final product looks like. Thinking you are writing "build game with xy mechanics" is not going to happen for a long time. And even when we get to the point where you write a game using AI it will be the biggest standard Shit.

[@gabrielvoicu179]

Shoud improve the rocks maybe, they are huge! Unreal...

[@dragonbutt]

Ive always said that Snowrunner is set in the post-apocalypse, which is why everything is either flooded, burned down or covered in rocks the size of cars lmao

[@steveknapp5815]

Still waiting for them change the ps5 memory issue! 😔

[@InsaneGamers1003]

The devs, are only focused on releasing constant dlc trash and not actually fixing the game, thats why this and 90% of the game is a buggy mess and not fixed/added, hell their new game has all the bugs snowrunner has had since launch.

[@IG10705]

90% buggy???

[@InsaneGamers1003]

​@@IG10705 Fuel refill bug still exists been there since launch, buggy winches, terrain turn into a blackhole after a certain depth, trees still dont break when driving forward over them only backwards, broken buggy water physic, game still treats rocks with the same traction value as ice, vehicle physics are still buggy, vehicle frames are still too rigid, pebbles still destroy your suspension when driving over roads at certain speeds, I can go on.

[@IG10705]

@@InsaneGamers1003 I've had no issues with the fuel whatsoever

[@builttobeat2741]

Some people aren't happy unless they have something to bitch about. I don't understand if it's so bad why they don't make their own game, how they feel it should work, oh right they don't have a clue how to or how to fix any of these issues

[@dragonbutt]

@@InsaneGamers1003 Fuel refill bug is the only thing here thats actually an issue. Winches are fine, the terrain, trees, water physics and rock physics are all just how the game engine works. In fact one of the past couple of updates added more of the trees to the list of "destructibles" and fixed a lot of issues with collisions. Also, offroad tires and allterrain tires have better rock traction than mud tires, so the "Rocks are ice" is kind of user error, but also realistic because ordinary heavy trucks are not rock crawlers. Pebbles destroying your suspension is kind of a real thing since the "Pebbles" in snowrunner are 10-12" tall rocks which are actually HUGE when you think about it, and would absolutely mess something up if you hit them cruising 25-30mph. Its why big trucks will have blowouts from hitting potholes, rocks and road debris IRL, even at low speeds. Lots of mass + super high pressure tires. The suspension damage is probably a compromise so you arent constantly losing your tires because of whats realistic, and suspension damage isnt even that big of an issue since most trucks in SR have a LOT of suspension hitpoints. TL;DR you just need to get good, stop using tayga balloons and maybe slow down a little.

[@george-mariustruta1269]

Can i get some help with how i install it please?

[@sixpest]

Thats the problem with most sims and games. And why Soft body Simulations have always been the best driving virtual vehicles.

[@Beencheeling]

The only reason mudrunner has flexable axles is because all trucks are old, old trucks can do that but on the newer trucks, they would crumble under their own weight

[@gavog9410]

Keep up the improvements love this game ❤only part that i dont like to much is i need to find the trucks instead of buying them straight from the garage

[@dragonbutt]

New game + lets you have all trucks available with no region lock from the get go. You can even set it so that they have no cost.

[@MalcomHeavy]

This is ridiculous. No steel framed truck flexes that much. Not without causing irreparable warping to the frame of the truck, or breaking rivets and welds. Theres a reason the trucks have become stiffer as this series has continued. The developers have continually gone out and tested and observed these tracks and tweaked the game mechanics to conform more with the reality of how these trucks operate. While its true steel has a small amount of flex to it in large ruged haulers like these, they dont break the laws of physics. Anyone who claims that trucks do flex this much. You're wrong. Completely irredemably wrong. You list exambles of parking a pickup truck on a hill. Yes. The frame can bend very small amounts in a way that releases stress off the steel. But they can not bend to the degree shown in this video. Not even close. I could go deeply into the physics of this and how different steel grades and frame designs work, but I dont need to. This isn't worth THAT much of my time.

[@jcook107]

I think there was enough twist before personally. It looks a little excessive "after". Not dogging the effort or anything just imo.

[@ManoFerrero]

this is a blessing to this game,vannilla trucks feel like plastic toys,the derry is just sad to watch

[@vermillion.__-_.]

fuck that, this should have been done 5 years ago ...still never installing this again

[@Ghost94Rus]

Скиньте видео разработчикам, пусть посмотрят как должны вести себя рамы грузовиков на самом деле в реальности, и пусть добавят это в игру

[@masonreppeto882]

The devs won't make any changes like these modders have because it would affect how trucks perform on maps. Most maps would simply be too easy for the trucks if they performed like this.

[@insiainutorrt259]

The only dificulty on most maps is the piss poor design with shit roots stumps and other garbage theyve just arbitrarily made invulnerable....

[@Whyisthishere2]

Please make this a mod now and preferably upload it to switch or all platforms

[@sbn-game]

Nice work, its such a shame that this game feels so bad using a wheel..

[@xankazo]

So many poeple in the comments think this is an official update. 😂

[@cristianroth8524]

"Before" is what Farming Simulator should've been by now. "After" is what Snowrunner should've been right from the start.

[@herdumderdum1764]

bruh these devs pumped out like 3 games that they keep recreating because they can't get it right more like they don't want to stick to a game and make it properly cause they can't so they pump out these half arsed driving games with the worst physics then move onto the next project for a quick buck

[@select20]

Went from too little to a bit much.

[@ylii00]

The basic rules in SnowRunner are too simple, any further updates are poor effective.

[@S-396-Shark]

you know what i really think needs a redo in snowrunner? difflock and gearbox. because with difflock engage the tires does this weird jitters? and with the gearbox in spin tires it just feels much more nicer to use imo. especially with how you use the low range mode.

[@sspp3065]

No the biggest problem in snowrunner is someone getting trigger happy with boulders and rock placement.

[@davidyoung3314]

This doesn’t make sense because trailers are installed on the frame, and if you change the skin on the frame, you will have to change the skin on the trailers, and if you change the skin on the trailers, you need to change all the loads.

[@00lerek00]

Can some1 tell me how i install that on xbox game pass pc ? cant find media folder plz thanks.

[@ToJednoBurrito]

I think mudrunner is still better in this, why didnt the devs just took the physics and put it into snowrunner

[@jacobstarks963]

Impressive

[@trytenbfagorta8528]

What about azov antarctic?

[@Hamza-Rtlo]

I think It's not flexible because no chassis like truck

[@-d2vil69-]

Hello, would it be possible to integrate your mod into the game's menu, rather than manually? That would be great.

[@kexcz8276]

OMG! Did you ever seen truck twisting so much? IT'S NOT A BUG, IT'S A FEATURE GOD DAMN!!!

[@an_errant_soul777]

I need this!!

[@vladvulcan]

Amazing stuff!

[@z3d402]

Does this mod only work on vanilla vehicles or modded vehicles too? I have not got Snowrunner yet only Mudrunenr but i've been keen to get it until i saw the lack of flexing SR has in it's base game mechanics xD

[@bazokas_5]

Vanilla, the mod ones has theyr own physicks

[@gary9293]

Good job!

[@kamaljatav671]

After is causing more damages 😂

[@endurooriente]

el mod estará disponible para ps5?

[@spitfire5452]

Why did they wait so long to do this?

[@7thNoteOfficial]

Why font they hire the modders? 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@eslammoneir]

The biggest problem is the game refuce multiple inputs so weird in 2024 that i cant move my mouse on the map while driving with my steering wheel

[@J.A.P_8950]

PC or console? Asking because xbox controllers have a setting called co-pilot that takes two active controllers and combines them into one single input controller. I'm curious if this could be a work around for at least xbox players but haven't been able to test it yet.

[@eslammoneir]

@@J.A.P_8950 pc bro

[@СнимаюШляпу-ж7р]

годнота

[@Playr0ne]

cool, better later then never

[@Victor4293]

Will the devs make this happen?

[@FearlessChieftain]

Do mods truck also affect by this or just vanilla ones?

[@EliteNK]

Just Vanilla

[@soterispsaras3593]

is this a mod?

[@josephfuller6229]

No mods like this on Xbox

[@robertocoelho1315]

Show

[@wilharaotl1158]

Agora sim eu gostei 🤠🤠

[@eliasalvessouza4607]

Feels like GTA IV

[@kmm-kng]

hi, where dowload fix? its mod?

[@detrox2087]

Mod, look description

[@GREEN_POLSKA]

Remeber people, the twisting frame was a think in Mudrunner

[@kiss__2022]

когда мод?

[@Sivoha-zq9cq]

он уже есть

[@sakardalal]

man how do i get updates on my torrented snowrunner 😢

[@knuffelbaer1971]

I have a big problem installing that mod... Its not a pak file, and it cant be installed with the ingame mod browser... what do i do?

[@stevefrick659]

Ok, flexible frames, not realistic. How about crashing issues and refueling on Xbox multiplayer? Fix that first then show me this

[@R_E_D22]

crashing and refueling would have to be fixed by the devs, here what someone in the comments said about flex-Truck frames are designed to bend and flex over uneven roads. That is why cabs and Beds are never one piece or the body work would bend. Why do you think every truck has a separation.. it's so movement within the frame can be tolerated without issues.

[@fuadtaghizade]

unrealistic move of vehicles in such situations

[@Warlock339]

Frames aren’t supposed to flex or you got a problem

[@Theloze]

Not true, Truck frames are designed to bend and flex over uneven roads. That is why cabs and Beds are never one piece or the body work would bend. Why do you think every truck has a separation.. it's so movement within the frame can be tolerated without issues.

[@twhitehead221]

Modern trucks flex less, but they still flex. As Theloze said, that is why the bed is not connected to the cab. I remember a video comparing an older F350 to a modern one. The old one was unbelievable how much it flexed, but was still a solid as a rock truck haha. I remember flexing my 2012 F250 and not being able to open the door.

[@danielhomant2832]

Heavy truck frames absolutely do flex a lot. You just don't see it because they are always on roads. Get out into severe off road logging and bush driving and you will see them flexing. Check out Onaway truck drag races and you will see how much flex a frame can have. Trucks aren't cars.

[@dragonbutt]

@@Theloze Except pickup trucks arent designed to flex at all. Some do, some dont. Its why actual truck reviewing publications used to do a frame flex test, and a stronger frame would flex less. Heavy trucks (class 7 and 8 trucks) are designed for SOME flex but nothing like in the video. They are designed to flex under load for stability. Its why heavily loaded semi trucks will lift a wheel under hard acceleration or in turns.

[@dragonbutt]

@@twhitehead221 Pickups have a design tolerance for frame flex. Flexing to the point that you cant open doors or the tailgate is way out of its designed tolerances and will lead to permanent damage to the frame. Its also why overloading a pickup beyond its rated payload capacity will bend and twist frames and cause them to fail between the bed and the cab. Its also why heavy trucks have a straight frame and pickups have contoured frames.

[@zachfloyd9611]

Bro fixing the refueling issue since the first dlc ever came out needs to be fixed I don't know about PC or Xbox but it has plagued playtstion for a long time

[@LokoMotiva477]

on Xbox too, if I'm not mistaken they will fix it in the next phase

[@zachfloyd9611]

@@LokoMotiva477 really hope so

[@mrfixitusa6165]

What's the refueling issue you talking about?

[@ironlegmsport3826]