Fixing elephants in AoE4

[@tcghost587]

“Babe, wake up, new Blidge vid dropped”

[@kristianwhite7278]

I found 2Tc into Keeps everywhere then Elephants works good .. if I play against English and they go Council hall it's already over , a few Ghazi to counter the Longbows first push then mass Archers into the war Elephants its usually gg I Reckon one Extra Archer on top tower Elephants and Trample ability on the War Elephant 👌👍

[@jeromemartel3916]

For having played mass elephants before, you just kite spearmen as all elephants can attack while moving. Also, their strenght is mostly as a support unit. 2-3 war elephants in a ball of archer/Xbow just decimate any horsemen and cav. As far I know, most people doesn't lean in a playstyle that can make use of them since they fight in feudal hard and their scaling is lessen by trading units with other civilization while you could age up to age 3 and get all age 3 tech making your age up "free" with all the ressources you save. Dehli scale very well with each age up as long as you make some scholars.

yeah I think they need either Forced march or short charge + little bit of melee splash damage

[@supdun007]

Great video! I started playing Delhi because of elephants, research and keep boom: I love playing in Castle age. Once I started playing ranked I dropped Delhi after a while because really the only strategy you go for in competitive play in >90% of play is mass Ghazi's in feudal age. I like your ideas, although I am not so sure about 3. What makes it different from a normal archer then? Another solution might be to have the elephants get an aura similar to camels, but against infantry. For instance, 20% damage reduction against all infantry in an aura (as I would be scared shitless if an enemy comes towards me on an elephant)

[@blidge1]

Thx! About idea 3 (changing tower elephants): they would still be less efficient than going ranged units in terms of dps, but would be situationally better vs other ranged units and things like mangonels/melee swarm. But really, anything is an improvement from their current state

[@Dodo-td1pg]

The biggest problem is that the most expensive unit's 4armor is useless vs the cheapest unit's 32dmg vs cavalry. So either elephants tank damage and die immediately, or stay behind and become inferior range units.

[@adminnvbs9166]

I thought elephants were only good if you make dome of the faith, crank out scholars, and then bring the scholars with the elephants after most of your research is done. The healing seems to overcome the elephants’ weakness to spearmen. Janisseries are still a hard counter though.

[@Shook354]

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[@gamelogin-xw6fc]

I have killed more than 20 spearman and men at arms with 2 or 3 elephants

[@eljouser]

elephants are good...if you boom for 30 minutes in gold / platinum league and go straight to the Sultan's elephant supported by 15 scholars. Otherwise, just do what every other Dehli does and mass Ghazi and archer

[@gabrieladonai9427]

Dude. Just nerf spears I like the speed and stats rework, but Spears deal way too much damage. Spears should be cost effective, but should lose. Spears just make elephants autolose, because then they require way too much support to work. Maybe rework their base stats, but their base damage should get a substantial nerf, because it makes armor meaningless. Right now, spears can follow down an elephant they see and dispatch it, which I feel they shouldn’t do, because they’re supposed to be fodder units with a cost effectiveness niche.

[@fabiosordo5313]

The solution 4 makes no sense, it works only on 1 matchup out of 16 and fucks up balance for ottoman. The elephants have a more core problem, they are high hp units and there is no reason not to focus them with ranged (no overkill). The anti-sinergy with tower of victory does not help either since it's the only viable feudal landmark on land maps :\

[@blidge1]

Let's be real, janissaries are too strong vs cavalry. I am all for balancing ottomans, but they are already poorly balanced and need adjustments (buffs) all across the board (schools being underwhelming/expensive in age 2, no way to compensate bad timings, etc.). But current janissaries absolutely need to go, because 95% of games vs otto are "ok, guess I'm playing a no-stable challenge" As for elephants - yeah, they are good targets and way too situational right now. But I believe if they were given some movespeed and trample ability, they would also become a danger for the opponent. It is like knights or mangonels - not difficult to focus, but very dangerous